Campfire Chat January 7, 2017

 Will_Society:  Welcome everyone, to the first Campfire Chat of the new year’s session, “The Journey to a New Life.” Let us begin with a momentary practice of stillness together—as the hour changes—a time to connect with our deepest inclinations and with the power that God has placed within each of us.
Mike_LF_CAL:  Top of the hour
Ramona_Romania:  Nasi Novare Coram! Happy New Year full of Light, Wisdom and Knowledge!
Jill_Boulder:  Hello everyone NNC
Arthur:  Hello there
Richmond_UK:  Hello everyone
Rebecca_NY:  Hello everyone….glad to be here today! It’s been a while….
Selma_London:  Happy New Year all
Stéphan_Qc.:  Hello everyone. Yes Will, the statement that stood for me and which is related to my circumstances is “to accept the great change that is happening and to leave the explanation open”,
80238:  “Your greatest responsibility is to the Knowledge that God has placed within you to respond to, to follow and to express. This is an unparalleled freedom, but it requires great inner strength and forbearance.”
Surina_Calif.:  Good Day, Everyone. Nasi Novare Coram
Selma_London:  There is usually an OMG moment in each Revelation for me, and this time it was: “The Knowledge that God has placed within you will urge you to go onward, to keep your eyes open, your ears open, to be very watchful, to be very careful. Do not think that God is going to protect you now from every form of harm, and prevent injury and disappointment and tragedy for you. You must be very careful. This is part of gaining a greater awareness. … Listen to the sounds of the world, the natural world.”
Now I have to pay attention literally to each & every step I take, as was pointed out to me when I slipped on black ice last week, here in a world with so many hazards, and especially a big city like London with lots of irrational behaviour.
Ayesha_Society:  Happy New Years! Let’s begin 2017, a new year, a new beginning, opening a door to a new life.
Before we move forward with this session, what was your experience of Patricia’s afterglow message on Marshall receiving the revelation “The New God experience”?
Here is the link to the recent afterglow: http://www.newmessage….ience
Hardev_Australia:  @ Will the following is relevant to my life and needs at this time. “The first requirement is to accept the great change that is happening and to leave the explanation open.” and “Leave your future open. Set aside plans beyond what you must do to simply maintain yourself in the world.”
Maureen_Boulder:  That struck me too, Stephan. I find myself reacting too much to what’s in the news lately. Just need to let it be what it is unless I can do something about it.
Joyanne_Canada:  Hello everyone…NNC,
36527:  Hardev… this stood out for me too “The first requirement is to accept the great change that is happening and to leave the explanation open.” and “Leave your future open. Set aside plans beyond what you must do to simply maintain yourself in the world.”
Ayesha_Society:  In the past two months, we were given the opportunity to deeply explore a profound session on “The New God” reality. And now, what has come to us is the revelation on “The New God Experience”. What an opening to bring forth the experience that has been building from our last school session as we read and take in this recent afterglow. As you read and listen to both of Marshall’s afterglow audios , you are encouraged to share your experience, perhaps bringing forth your inspiration of the past two months, on the comment section at the bottom of the journal (on the NM site). Leave your permanent imprint behind as you are the first to know of this very live process of revelation as Patricia accounts to us.
ellenrose-boulder:  @Ayesha, I love the way Marshall describes the stillness following an encounter with the Unseen Ones in Patricia’s afterglow. It gives me a taste of it and that goes so far!
Joyanne_Canada:  I was very impacted by what MVS stated in the afterglow report. It felt it took me deeper, I feel it will benefit me to expand more..
Maureen_Boulder:  I have made a challenge to myself to not watch any movies for the next two months and to limit my exposure to the media.
Donald_Pa:  For God knows that without Knowledge, the deeper intelligence that has been placed within you, you would live a life of compromise. You would seek compromise for security, for approval, for wealth and advantage. You would seek compromise in order to avoid ridicule or criticism or condemnation or even social rejection. Compromise would permeate everything—your beliefs, your attitudes, your aspirations, your activities, your plans, your goals. This would increase to a point where you really had lost contact with who and what you are.
Stéphan_Qc.:  I hear you Maureen, I backed off from the media and cultivate silence in my place most of the time now.
Cameron_Canada:  @Selma, I had a similar connection….Here you must sit and listen. Gaze at nature. Listen to the sounds of the world, the natural world.
Do not argue the issues. Do not assert your ideas. That is not important now and will be counterproductive for you.
Joyanne_Canada:  I have to leave chat but I am leaving this window up to read after I come back..doing the Nana thing today with Taylors Hockey…I will care you in my heart today..take care all..
Donald_Pa:  The great “compromise” that has been my life explained….. Thank you.
Kristina_Boulder:  There were several directives, that stood out for me, but the one that did the most is this one: I need to plug up all the holes where my ship is leaking, where I am losing ground to others or to situations—through habit or through the designs of others.
87409:  In Patricia’s afterglow, this really struck me: “He looked at me and said, ‘They must be listening to us.’ In saying this, Marshall was referring to a dinner table conversation we had had the night before about the importance of speaking on the New God experience to people of different religious backgrounds.” Because during my advocacy on Facebook, a new Italian student had just asked me if we could talk about the concept of God…they are listening everywhere.
Jim B. Upstate Ny:  @ Will for me after reading some of Revelation given I couldn’t help but go back to Step 55 “I will accept the world as it is.” where in this step is goes on to say “Idealism justifies condemnation. Recognize this great truth and you will begin to have a more immediate and profound experience of life and of that which is genuine and not based upon hope or expectation but upon true engagement.” This step has stayed with me and I with it for it has given me the perspective on life more from compassion and tolerance instead of fear, denial and condemnation.
Joyanne_Canada:  @87409, I felt that too..they are really attentive to our world, us and our Messenger and this Mission
Ayesha_Society:  87409- yes they are listening! What is your name?
87409:  HI it’s Raoul, I see my name change was not picked up, sorry
Alison-Boulder:  @Ayesha, the Afterglow email came in minutes before one of our Advocacy gatherings began. The power of this reality, for me, cuts through smaller concerns. I am grateful and challenged–to move forward to such a committed life as MVS has stepped up to again and again, to what calls him. The submission of a life for the greatest cause. I was also struck by “they must be listening to us.” My Step today reminds me that my Teachers are always there, and are to be honored.
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you Stephan–and thank you Maureen for your take on the quote he provided, “to accept the great change that is happening and to leave the explanation open”. It is such a challenging time in the world to do what is asked here. But, the times will grow even more challenging in the GWs to come. These are times of practice–and I must admit that I often fail “leaving the explanation open.”
Mike_LF_CAL:  Patricia’s account of Marshall’s experience of receiving “The New God Experience” gives us a window into a divine and mysterious event which is an account of witnessing an actual present day miracle! It is always amazing to me, simply amazing!
Greg_UK/Netherlands:  I have to say (hello all!) that because I was travelling I did not know about the new revelation until yesterday’s evening.
LaRaeUK:  I resonate with that Maureen. I truly struggle in these times to remain neutral.
Lin_Boulder:  The same morning MVS received the new Revelation, I walked my way underneath the bridge across the broadway, and met the two old homeless people as usual, this time i stopped and talked with them a little bit. It was snow previous night, but they were so happy seeing and feeling the snow and the quietness in the morning. Looking at their smily face, i know God is there with them and in them.
Rebecca_NY:  This individual revelation, in it’s entirety, struck me very powerfully. The statement(s) that I feel holds the most relevance to my life currently where: “You will become confused about what to do regarding your relationships with people primarily, and secondarily your relationship with where you live, the work that you do, your activities, your hobbies, your interests and so forth. Let this confusion exist. It is healthy. It is natural. It is part of the transition.” “You are building a bridge to a new life. You are not yet fully living that new life. You are building a bridge. You are in transition.” “The transitions mean that you cannot go back, and you have not gone far enough to go fully forward, so you have to be on this bridge, going through this transition.” AND MOST of ALL “Leave your future open. Set aside plans beyond what you must do to simply maintain yourself in the world.”
Betty_UK:  Thank you Ayesha @ your question re the after glow; I did question too how the New Message would be reaching all the tradition, as looked at the last couple of weeks and look back for signs, I feel the strenght and the gift of each previous and current Messenger perhaps could bring people together, perhaps could give people something to relate too. Perhaps could bring the strenght out of people.
Tamara:  In the midst of my twelve holy days, my power center, the core of my being became clear…..a feeling sense activated at Encampment. The final quote shared from ‘The New God Experience’ provides a deep reminder to carry in my pocket and to hang upon my doorway…..”It is the core of your strength. It is the core of your power. It is the core of your inspiration. It is leading you back to the life you were meant to live.”
36527:  Ayesha.. what a jewel it is to have Patricia’s afterglows and to be able to hear the Messenger’s afterglow audio recording right after receiving Revelation. A few days ago, i had a strong thought “Marshall is receiving a Revelation”. truly a miracle at work. Thank you.
Asta_dk:  Hello everyone! Good New Year also! I so needed this, “When I speak to people of different faith traditions, I ask them what they practice, not what they believe.”
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @Ayesha . This the part that resonated. Here you do not give all your power away to God, thinking that God is going to guide you in everything. That is ridiculous. Here you give yourself greater authority within yourself that is not of your own making. But this authority requires that you become responsible, that you become honest, that you become self-determined. It will require you to follow things that are mysterious, but most of the time you will have to be doing very practical things. The need to become responseble,honest and self-determined is calling.
Cameron_Canada:  @Rebecca – It is comforting to know a bit of confusion is ok and expected
Jeanne_Boulder:  What stood out for me was to stop trying to convince other of my beliefs, they will to listen, wasting your energy. Show thru example.
Josef Austria:  Hello everyone!
Adria_Poland:  Hello all. Deep gratitude to Marshall, Summers family and the Society for making it possible to share this Afterglow. It was very powerful. What moved me much was the passage about experience so profound, so great, that it changes everything. It’s the change I look to be shaken with, so that my perspective on life, life, prorioties all change. It should have already happened, I discovered the NM, yet I feel I am not strong enough yet. A need to continually practice, devote myself. “We are not our abilities, but our choices” – every moment I chose Knowledge, I choose truth I feel deep in my guts, however hard it may be – it will strenghten me.
Tamara:  Yes Cameron….the reassurance that confusion is very much apart of this transitional journey brings me peace for this is not an easy road.
Richmond_UK:  @Ayesha I find the details of the Afterglow that Marshall gives utterly fascinating. His perceptions, feelings, the analogies etc. that he uses are truly remarkable. This is something that outside the Great Messengers no one would know about, yet, we are privy to it. How very fortunate we are to be a part of this.
Rebecca_NY:  @Cameron – Yes! I often feel very confused and it has comforted me greatly to know that this is natural. I often find myself, reminding myself of this!
Hyeonam_Korea:  I thank Marshall’s Receiving whatever any circumstances.
Raoul_australia:  “… the great journey up the mountain that was always prepared for you.” This stood out because of the feeling that I was sent here with Great assistance – because of the feeling of The Great Coordination that has been with us.
Dariel_Boulder:  Ayesha, the ‘Afterglows’ are such a gift, from MVS and all of you. It is incredible to consider your little ‘team’ going into action. What do the AA see from their tower? They have a very trustworthy vehicle that they can count on–these many years. How this must free them to think ‘totally of humanity’. They do not have to question the trustworthiness of the vehicle.
36527:  “The transitions mean that you cannot go back, and you have not gone far enough to go fully forward, so you have to be on this bridge, going through this transition.”- this experience has been with me for awhile.

Will_Society:  Let us share from our experience of the first question of the new 2017 Journey session:

Was there anything in the revelation Building the Bridge to a New Life that initially stood out to you as relevant to your life and needs at this time?

Asta_dk:  It is such a humbling experience to following Knowledge as best I can because Knowledge is so huge and I am so small and foolish and dumb on my own!
Kristina_Boulder:  I found this quote interesting, another reminder that Knowledge is alive. “As long as you hesitate, the clarity will not come. As long as you are bargaining and trying to work out some kind of deal to keep something from your old life, the certainty will not come. The clarity will not come because you have not yet turned that corner. It is like the answer is around the side of the mountain, and you have to go around that mountain to find it.”

Mike_LF_CAL:  This passage speaks to me regarding the great mystery that is presently occurring in my life, “The first requirement is to accept the great change that is happening and to leave the explanation open. You will not be able to understand it. Your intellect is referenced to your past and former life. It cannot account for what is occurring with you now and for the impulses that you feel now and for the orientation that is slowly emerging within you. Your intellect will try but will be unsuccessful at comprehending the meaning of this.”

I seem to be residing at this point in my life…”You will become confused about what to do regarding your relationships with people primarily, and secondarily your relationship with where you live, the work that you do, your activities, your hobbies, your interests and so forth. Let this confusion exist. It is healthy. It is natural. It is part of the transition.” I am literally resting on the razors edge of what I feel is a “transition point”, whether it…

Hardev_Australia:  I am deeply grateful to Patricia for her afterglow accounting and to hear Marshall speak of his experience which I find to be very moving. We live in times of revelation and at a time where the NM reaches a global audience all at once. Such a great blessing to all humanity.
Mike_LF_CAL:  … is great or not I do not know…”This is confusing for the intellect. But now the intellect must yield to a greater power within you, the power that God has put within you to guide you and to bless you and to prepare you for this greater life. “
Jeanne_Boulder:  I find that when I am not in judgment what is, than I am open to what is needed to do to move forward. I am open to the energy to do what is needed instead of complaining. Life is so much easier with this way of living. Can’t change it, so do what is need to acceptance of it..
Maria_Boulder:  From the afterglow,I felt a deep opening in me when I listened(and read) to MVS describe his experience of receiving TNGE: (paraphrase) his being reached from inside, not outside, as in entering a vast, timeless reality, that opens up almost endlessly…and where those who send us are to be found…Thank you with all my heart for these sacred and intimate sharings- what a times we are living in…
Donald_Pa:  This sentence stood out for me: “Now you have become a product of your society, a product of the expectations of society and a product of your own personal thinking.”
Sally_boulder:  Thank you Adria for this little note…”We are not our abilities, but our choices”
Raoul_australia:  testing (Raoul) am I still a number?
Joe_UK:  @Stephan_QC: That was the statement that stood out for me also. I sensed a harmony with another directive that stood out for me from the Final Lessons of Steps: “Do not think of your past, but realize the reality of Knowledge in the moment and its great promise for the future.” May we engage with the directives that stood out for us with increased desire and intensity.
Debbie_MI:  What stood out for me was the statement of how taking the STK and studying and reading the NM “will be like food to you, food for your heart, food for your soul.”
Levy:  Raoul, your name is displayed ok
Mike_LF_CAL:  No Raoul, u r Raoul!
Asta_dk:  Mike, this is a good expression of what I sometimes feel, “I am literally resting on the razors edge of what I feel is a “transition point””
Virpi_FI:  Yes Mike, I feel the same, like being in a Bridge, a foggy one.
Donald_Pa:  @Debbie That one stood out for me as well
rayhobbs_ colorado:  The world is growing darker and more distressed. You are seeing this now occurring here and there with greater frequency and if you are sensitive to this and are willing to be with this, to consider this and be compassionate with this, this greater love will emerge and it will tend to offset your own fear in trepidation. All of the anger and frustrations these events can arouse within you represent your own fear, your fear of loss your fear of disruption your fear of losing privileges and wealth your fear of oppression your fear of disaster your fear of death. So many different fears are aroused as you bear witness to the emerging events around the world which represent the great waves of change that are coming to your community. And what will offset this growing sense of apprehension anxiety and concern but the enduring love within you. You will want to run away into your hobbies and habits your obsessions your fantasies your dreams or watch movies and watch the dreams and fantasies…
rayhobbs_ colorado:  … of others. It is because you cannot face reality, a reality of a declining world, a reality of a world whose resources are diminishing and whose populations are growing a world of increasing disruptions and uncertainty.
Richmond_UK:  @Will what stood out for me was this part of the Revelation, ““The journey has many steps to allow you time to learn and to adapt and to gain a deeper foundation of confidence within yourself so that your life may become inner directed as opposed to outer directed..To move from being an outer-directed person to being an inner-directed person is a tremendous change.” For me this has slowly and is continuing to happen and now when there is an important decision or action that I need to take, I always check in’ with myself to see what I need to know regarding this. It is a totally different way of being from almost everyone I see around me.
20742:  I reflected on the “facade” and creation that is all around me, that I cannot sense, but may feel briefly feel from time to time. Marshall, it struck me to hear about the light that strikes you from within, the connection to the Angelic Assembly each time you receive a New Message. I appreciate your descriptions that you share with the world, so that others can begin to understand and participate in the process of Revelation. Thank-you Patricia for sharing these “after glow” moments that are so enriching.
Selma_London:  It struck me that if Marshall had not given his life, then how could we be expected to give our lives? So there is a responsibility for each of us, that is passed on. I am following in his footsteps, and grateful for his markers, where he has flattened the jungle a little, so that I can find my way.
Tamara:  I am with you 36527….as much as I want to be fully into the New Life provided via God’s New Message, I must remember that a patience unlike anything I have experienced before is required as I make my way across the bridge. Steady, consistent, careful, self checking, seeing, asking, stillness…..journal, stillness, work, stillness…..I continue to cross over.
rayhobbs_ colorado:  As you take the Steps to Knowledge and unite your surface social mind with the deeper mind within you, you will have the strength to face these things with greater clarity objectivity and equanimity. You will feel the suffering of others you will feel the tragedy of change in the world you will feel lots of emotions being aroused within you by these arising and emerging situations but the enduring love will give you strength and countenance in the face of these things. For Knowledge is not afraid of the world, the deeper mind within you the part of you that is still connected to God and can respond to God, is not afraid of the world it is not afraid of death and destruction mayhem and loss deprivation. All the things that plague you and terrify you and make you want to run away and hide somewhere. Knowledge is the core strength that you have the core integrity the core certainty the core power; it is the source of the enduring love within you. ( Enduring Love )
Maureen_Boulder:  Finding the essence of God in other religions had been a focus for me lately and has made a difference in how I close the separation gap for me. Seeing where we are more alike than different and looking for the good in people. On a recent trip, I watched people in the airports interacting with each other and saw much love there. I observed small nuances: knowing glances, touches, smiles, hugs, helping strangers with their bags, subtle expressions of caring. It warmed my heart.
Raoul_australia:  this also stood out: “And every day you move forward, you break these chains.” I am feeling this every day.
Alison-Boulder:  “And every day you move forward, you break these chains.” – Building a Bridge. It felt especially resonant in this new year.
Hyeonam_Korea:  I have felt I don’t have a bridge to go past my life and a bridge to go future while I read this month Revelation.
Donald_Pa:  A refreshing change from the candy flavored media, New Message Food,
Stéphan_Qc.:  Yep Donald ! As was for me the 2nd paragraph about COMPROMISE… What an objective resume of my life…
MarkBerger:  I am most definitely on a bridge, on an in-between place in life. The study of this revelation could not be more apt or timely for me, and I suspect, for others here, too. Thank you, Society. With love…
Lynn, CO:  Today is my first day of starting the school for this year. When I was a child I always had a recurring dream that I somehow had cross over a broken bridge. I tried many ways to do it, and failed. Until one day while awake I realized I could get to the other side on a spiritual rainbow. I never had the dream again. And here I am on the Bridge.
James_Boulder:  “Therefore, allow this change to occur. Do not try to define it. Do not even use ideas from other spiritual traditions to try to define it. Allow it to be a mystery, for to you it will be a mystery. “
The Bridge to a New Life traverses the expanse of definitions and into -Life Undefined. Where life is laced with the magic of the Mystery. Like walking behind the facade of the mind and personally and into the “Open Space” of a New God Experience.
Rebecca_NY:  @ Selma; very beautifully stated…thank you! “It struck me that if Marshall had not given his life, then how could we be expected to give our lives? So there is a responsibility for each of us, that is passed on. I am following in his footsteps, and grateful for his markers, where he has flattened the jungle a little, so that I can find my way.”
Asta_dk:  Thank you, Maria from Boulder, so beautifully said!
MaryS_Boulder:  that Rodney, there he goes again picking up something in M.E.half a world away
Dariel_Boulder:  Maria, I also was struck by this part of the afterglow. It was so amazing to me to hear the thoughts of the Messenger “I had this thought that our minds and personalities are like façades that we keep reinforcing all the time, but behind us is this immense open space. It’s like timeless reality. We think of going inside ourselves as just going inside your body somewhere, but if we really go inside who we are, it’s like entering timeless reality.” It really left me stunned. How often I take the old words of the past–go inside yourself–literally. Thank you for a clearer possibility, dear MVS, one that is illuminated as if by a ‘floodlight within.’
Jeanne_Boulder:  After reading the after glow, I felt that this revelation has come at a perfect time for us. It really touched my heart. We are so very blessed with these revelations. It makes me want to continue with my work & to be a better student! The Angelic Presence is sending us assistance just at the right time:*) Thanks to MVS for accepting these revelations for us.
Richmond_UK:  @Mark, resonating.
Inhee_Korea:  @Kristina thank you for the quote “As long as you hesitate, the clarity will not come. As long as you are bargaining and trying to work out some kind of deal to keep something from your old life, the certainty will not come.~
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you Lynn. This ‘Bridge’ is such a metaphor–and someday we will be the Bridge…
Kristina_Boulder:  Listening and reading the teaching made me realize that I’m not living the life I meant to live yet, I’m still building the bridge, I’m still going through same of the initial thresholds, even now. I’m still struggling to balance my 4 pillars and I still have a lot to let go off. “Everyone at the bottom of the mountain is entertaining firm beliefs, but firm beliefs do not enable you to get up this mountain and do not enable you to gain a higher elevation where you can see the truth of life around you as it will become evident.”
Greg_UK/Netherlands:  Thanks Lynn, I have a very spiritual link to rainbows as I received, was sent, a double rainbow as a sign after my ray of initiation experience.
Adria_Poland:  because better to move slowly than into a mistake. We need to be like a patient gardener, “the nature never rushes, yet everything is accomplished”.
Maria_Boulder:  From Bridge to a New Life, I felt a confirmation, that this greater reclusivity than I have ever experienced in this life- is much as it should be at this moment…walking across the bridge… and always the reminder:”…you are gaining strength within yourself. You are learning to conserve your energy. You are fasting now, holding yourself back from giving yourself away everywhere, holding yourself in reserve.”
Adria_Poland:  oops. @Richmond thank you for this reminder. The journey has many steps and it’s where great patience and self-love come into light, because better to move slowly than into a mistake. We need to be like a patient gardener, “the nature never rushes, yet everything is accomplished”.
Betty_UK:  Thank you Will – at your question re the passage in the revelation “Building the bridge to a new life” this passage spoke to me: “The foundation is so very important and requires great patience and forbearance. It is this patience and forbearance that will shift your allegiance away from your intellect and the admonitions of others to a greater power within you—the power of Knowledge, the power of God. You will never comprehend this power fully.”
Lin_Boulder:  @Stephan, same for me. The one word stood out for me is “compromise”.
Mathieu_France:  “Allow the steps to reveal to you what the journey really is. It is not a journey that is understood by theorists or pundits or philosophers, idealists, academics or the general public. It is more of a mystical path, a deeper journey.
Its revelations will happen beyond the intellect, for it is not an intellectual journey. Your intellect will grow to accommodate it. And you will learn over time to gain a greater perspective and greater wisdom about many things.” I have been feeling this unknown and this mystery growing and growing within my life, at times to a point where I noticed it becomes very difficult for my mind to accept it, as it starts to answer the questions itself, and that can be quite deceptive, yet difficult to hold back. In face of too much mystery, I have to remind myself to not listen to my mind (beyond the practical things), and to allow things to be confused until real certainty can emerge. When that certainty emerges, the feeling is really different and I can feel…
Mathieu_France:  … how questions and anxiety disappear. I understand where I was… until the next foggy passage where I have to not forget the certainty previously gained while facing the unknown again and my mind attempting to take control and direction…
cray:  Thank You for saying this @JimB & all, re: “Step 55 “I will accept the world as it is.” where in this step is goes on to say “Idealism justifies condemnation. Recognize this great truth and you will begin to have a more immediate and profound experience of life and of that which is genuine and not based upon hope or expectation but upon true engagement.”
I too feel this is important, otherwise it prevents me from seeing where I am at and discerning Knowledge leading me to act upon: what must I do today? or what incremental action(s) that I must take at this time?The NMG knows the intellect far better than I do–clearly the Light of Revelation shows everything, otherwise toxic idealism leads to an OCD-like fatalism re: the world without Knowledge, the many heroic demonstrations of Knowledge that are there every moment globally
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cray:  … the Greater Community & it leads to a selfish, destructive, unrealistic judgment of others, the world, & self obsession, self deprecation…wastes the vitality that is there in the moment….
Ilhun_Korea:  “But you’re still anchored in who you are in the world, so you’re not going to get lost in this vastness of space. It’s not like you’re going to get thrown out of a spacecraft and drift endlessly. You’re actually still anchored in who you are in this world, but it’s like the doors of perception open behind you, and there is timeless reality. And everything that’s important about your life exists in this timeless reality. And those who sent you into the world are there within this timeless reality.” This strikes me with that our Ancient Home has been just within us. Not far. Not outside.
Raoul_australia:  @Mathieu, I really feel what you are saying “…until the next foggy passage…”
cray:  Typo: not demonstrations of Knowledge, but inspiring acts witnessed / captured…sorry
Levy:  Same here, Raoul / Mat
Tamara:  Mark, I too needed this revelation for it I provided me with a much need perspective on where I am at in this life. Though I my student-hood began in 12/2012, my transitional phase only started in 6/2015. That is only a year and a half ago. So, I see the tests before me, know there are some that I am unaware of perhaps, and understand better my state of confusion at times.
Matt_bzn:  @Kristina – me too. Thank you
Carolyn_CT:  @Dariel_Boulder: I was struck by the same passage.
Dariel_Boulder:  Beautiful, James! “Life Undefined. Where life is laced with the magic of the Mystery. Like walking behind the facade of the mind and personally and into the “Open Space” of a New God Experience.” They are listening–always ‘Listening for an opening.’ They are Listening now–very intently. How grateful I am for the NM in my life.
Sally_boulder:  “-you are building your allegiance to God, and that will challenge your allegiance to others and their hold upon you. For many people, this is the most difficult challenge, the first great threshold in their preparation.” I find this to be so true in my experience. Being so shrouded in the chains of obligations, it was difficult to even bear witness to them. But disappointment leaves a taste in your mouth you cannot, and are encouraged to not forget.
Alison-Boulder:  “Do not think that God is going to protect you now from every form of harm, and prevent injury and disappointment and tragedy for you.” When you cross the bridge, or at least think you are across it, there is no automatic immunity to error or risk. I needed to hear this, as it will always apply.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @Maria thank you this struck me too ) his being reached from inside, not outside, as in entering a vast, timeless reality, that opens up almost endlessly…and where those who send us are to be found..
cole_boulder:  This quote speaks to where I am at. Learning to gain a greater trust in Knowledge and myself – to be without explanations or justifications… “Leave your future open. Set aside plans beyond what you must do to simply maintain yourself in the world. Here you must have trust that clarity will come, and clarity will come when you feel you are prepared to move forward and are willing to move forward into new territory.” Building the bridge to a new life
Rebecca_NY:  @ Ilhun – Yes! (11:29AM) That stuck me in the same way!
Lynn, CO:  This is my first day of the new school year. When I was young I had a recurring dream for many years that I had to cross a broken bridge. I tried many different ways but always failed. One day while awake I realized that I could cross on a spiritual rainbow. I never had the dream again. And, today I am on the Bridge!
Cameron_Canada:  @Dariel – Interesting concept. Are we to be the bridge? …I’m not sure
Alison-Boulder:  @Ilhun thank you for saying “This strikes me with that our Ancient Home has been just within us. Not far. Not outside.”
Will_Society:  @Mathieu Thank you for sharing that. There is a real need to stay close to what we do know with certainty, and at the same time the great temptation of trying to claim Knowledge that we do not yet have, and the need to stay curious and open to the Mystery.
James_Boulder:  @Mathieu yes certainty until the next time the fog of forget returns… “Its more of a mystical path”
Jim B. Upstate Ny:  We are talking about a bridge that is already built. But a bridge is built to cross over something. In my heart I feel that we are crossing the bridge one step at a time and are building this bridge with each step. For our lives, the paths we take are different so the building of this bridge will be different in its making but the path over that bridge is the same leading us to a new life built upon knowledge and goodness. This just came to me so I thought I would share it.
Raoul_australia:  this too stood out for me, “As long as you hesitate, the clarity will not come. As long as you are bargaining and trying to work out some kind of deal to keep something from your old life, the certainty will not come.” The need to surrender every day to the Presence, above and beyond my preferences.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Greg, that’s awesome Greg!
Maureen_Boulder:  Yes, Lynn. Our journeys began long before we became aware of them.
Sally_boulder:  Well said words of wisdom Mathieu, “I have to not forget the certainty previously gained while facing the unknown again and my mind attempting to take control and direction…”
Ken_Oklahoma:  @Mathieu – I have noticed this from time to time…. “In face of too much mystery, I have to remind myself to not listen to my mind (beyond the practical things), and to allow things to be confused until real certainty can emerge.”
Dariel_Boulder:  Yes, Ilhun, I am so grateful for the description the AA gives of, “those who sent you into the world are there within this timeless reality.” This vast and mysterious space that contains all that is important about my life. It is here…
Nancy_Oregon:  Thanks Maureen, for noticing and taking note. . . reporting these bits of evidence of inherent goodness, love and care for one another, are also important to remember. . .the goodness of people
Gina_Boulder:  “Building a Bridge” implies doing a lot of work. Work is a theme that always stands out to me in the NM. I am “working my way back to God”…working to reach my greatest heart’s desire. It is both physical and internal work. I have felt a smoothing of the rough stones of my internal life as of late. “…But much of it is internal. It is your ideas. It is your compulsions. It is what you think you should do, who you think you should be, what you should have or how you should be with others. For this is where the social conditioning really takes place.”
Rudy_Boulder:  For the most part of my life, I feel that I have been an outer person: building an outer foundation, building outer strength and courage, building outer expectations, but most recently, I feel and know the importance of building inner direction, strength, courage and most importantly, an inner foundation that will be harder to crumble. I also find peace that this is a journey of many steps and turns. “Even if there are major events in your life that have brought this awareness to you, the journey has many steps to allow you time to learn and to adapt and to gain a deeper foundation of confidence within yourself so that your life may become inner directed as opposed to outer directed, that you may become a person of power, strength and integrity instead of someone who is mimicking the values of their culture.”
Adria_Poland:  @Mathieu @Sally Thank you
Rebecca_NY:  @ Jim B. – “the paths we take are different so the building of this bridge will be different” Thank you for this… there are as many ways to God as there are people on the planet!
Kristina_Boulder:  @Alison, this quote about God protecting us from all harm stood out for me as well. For me, it’s a false believe that I carry from my former religion, in which people believe that God will protect you from everything and you do not need to worry about anything as long as you believe in God. However, NM says otherwise. “Previously, you were not careful. You were reckless. You were foolish, impulsive. Now you must become watchful, discerning, patient, careful.”

Ayesha_Society:  The Bridge to a New Life talks about the “early part of your journey. ”

“This early preparation can be extremely important for what you will be able to realize, to accomplish and to communicate to others in the future.”

During this early phase of your preparation, what were the first indications that something was beginning to change for you?

Debbie_MI:  @Raoul-So well said! Thank You.
Levy:  So true @Raoul. In my experience hoping for my preferences always lead me to becoming so bothered by Knowledge that there’s no way other than following the peace of Knowledge.
Dariel_Boulder:  Cameron, there are passages in the NM that point to each of us remembering our AH. As this begins to occur we then become a bridge over which our AH and KN can enter the world. Please set me straight, Society Members, if I am remembering incorrectly.
Raoul_australia:  thank you Debbie!

cray:  Several parts of this struck me. I have to spend more time and effort with it, deep reading it. I am finding a media & stimuli / noise fast is at hand and stillness pull is there, the big snow has helped some. This really spoke to current reality & building foundation and clearing out, as Kristina Boulder pointed out, where my shipping is leaking and I am losing energy:

“Even the most foolish mistakes you will make in this early phase can be very important in giving you wisdom—teaching you what is real, to value what is real,
to help you discern what is good from what only looks good,
to help you to discern your real inclinations from those impulses that represent your weakness and insecurity.”–http://www.newmessage….-life

rayhobbs_ colorado:  As your Family members gather within you and about you, they render to you all that they have learned. Retreana Carvedan Celton Iy. Receive the Heart of God through your Spiritual Family that is joined about you. (Secrets of Heaven 6 & 21)
Ana_Burrows:  @Raoul – yes that struck me as well. And addressing those questions if you feel confused — Am I bargaining? Am I trying to work out a deal? Am I trying to keep something from my old life? Why?
Stéphan_Qc.:  @ Ayesha : My old life started to fail me and I started to fail it.
Raoul_australia:  very true Levy! same here
JeffreyAdler_ATL:  first indications? I noticed I was more neutral than before around tragic events. It almost surprised me.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  “…. to help you to discern what is good from what only looks good…” This stood out . Upon my slow read I discovered that in the written form this appears only once and in the recording the Messenger repeats it… that made this phrase penetrate deeply for me.
Ellen_Society:  Oh, how vividly I remember the years of “going through the motions of life” with no direction, no purpose, feeling alone, feeling adrift. This phenomenon is described perfectly in this revelation, and many of us have experienced it. In those days, I had no idea how totally my life was about to change.
Arthur:  I find it peculiar how what I need is never were I look, and then from seemingly nowhere it hits you. How Knowledge can continuously exceed your expectations of it makes it all so much better.
Raoul_australia:  @Ana, yes!…and sometimes I catch myself hoping that a little bit of old life can stay
Rebecca_NY:  @ Gina – “Building a Bridge” implies doing a lot of work. Work is a theme that always stands out to me in the NM. I am “working my way back to God”…working to reach my greatest heart’s desire. It is both physical and internal work.” I have found this to be so true! I had a discussion about redemption once with someone….they strongly believed that all you need to do was to believe and your redemption was guaranteed. The New Message had come into my life a year or so prior to this and the my experience spoke VERY differently to me about redemption….it requires work!
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you Rudy.
Donald_Pa:  “During this early phase of your preparation, what were the first indications that something was beginning to change for you?” An understanding of choices I had made as a young man that are just beginning to be realized.
Jorge_Spain:  @Ayesha, for me, my hope and faith in the “expected” life began to crumble. And for years I didn’t want it to crumble, of course, and I was very afraid and desperate.
Cameron_Canada:  @Ayesha – From the very beginning, perhaps for the first time in my life, I knew that I knew that I knew, this was the way I had been seeking for so long. This was true.
MaryS_Boulder:  @Rodney, we’ll call it ‘the Rodney effect” just because you were the first, so to speak, though how many we never see we’ll never know, huh.
Jeanne_Boulder:  Ilhun, I also like that quote ” This strikes me with that our Ancient Home has been just within us. Not far. Not outside.(9:29AM)
Inhee_Korea:  @Alison thank you for that ” When you cross the bridge, or at least think you are across it, there is no automatic immunity to error or risk.”
Angel_PA:  The change I noticed that really struck me was my ability to respond instead to react when presented with an unexpected challenge. Instead of the drama there was clear and concise response to deal with the issue and resolve it.
Raoul_australia:  @Ayesha, I remember feeling different from the first days of Steps, but often this led to some illusion about Knowledge speaking to me when it was actually not…it was too early…but the feeling of change was real from day 1
Tamara:  Ayesha….When I read this section about ‘early preparation’ I sensed the great value in looking back at a life of separation, for it is here that the gems and jewels of truth are polished and made ready to move me forward and also to assist in sharing the New Message with others.
Lin_Boulder:  @Ayesha, the fruitless attempts and disappointments in relationship brought me to a point of No hope, that things started to change.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @JIm B> (8:32) Yes, I feel the same, resonating!
Maria_Boulder:  @ Jeffrey (9:38am)- I remember taking note of this as well…wondering if I was hardening…and then seeing that I was holding things in a greater context
Levy:  @Ellen_Society, during these times for me, of going through the motions of life, every few years I would have a deeply felt questioning “what’s my purpose?”. Even the word “purpose” alone, seemed to be saying that yes, there’s a purpose.
Kristina_Boulder:  @Ayesha, my view on life in general changed significantly as well as my understanding of God and the Universe. Where before I could intuitively believe in certain things, now I believe in them as it’s been my experience.
Sally_boulder:  Ana, I came across a quote from Living the Way that reminded me of these questions. “Is the truth your friend in this relationship or does it threaten what you have established together?” This could certainly be a relationship with an idea, a person, a decision… This questions of why seems so important. Not simply to pose the questions but to have a serious yearning to know the truth, beyond preferences. What is my relationship with truth, and do I welcome it?
Mariska_NL:  Ayesha: Great joy and exitement from the new force in my life, and also confusion about many things.
Kelvin_Boulder:  I am reminded of the balance between the mind wanting stability, self preservation, the need to survive. The really old part we and all animals share within and where knowledge needs to take us if we choose to follow it, which is not very clear to the personal mind, but is where we must go to be free, ” When you break the chains of manipulation, you will find fear, because fear is what controls it…” So we really are two.
Carol_Society:  @Ayesha regarding first indications that something was about to change for me: Although I believed I had all that I needed and wanted, “the perfect life”and that I had found my calling in the world, this vague, persistent feeling came to me: “There’s something important I’m suppose to do. There’s something else I’m suppose to do.” I tried to identify what that could be, but that persistent, relentless feeling would not let up!
ellenrose-boulder:  @Ayesha: “During this early phase of your preparation, what were the first indications that something was beginning to change for you?(9:35AM)” The first indication that something was changing in me was that I felt this incredible need to be still. This was totally new to me and completely absent in my culture and upbringing. I didnt think I knew how to do it, but the part of me that was demanding it sure knew what to do! I spent hours at a time in stillness. It felt like a sort of prayer. I didnt at the time make the connection that this was meditation! I was so naive. Thats part of how I knew it was pure and coming from beyond me: I wasnt trying to do anything I knew to be “spiritual” or ‘beneficial.” I just couldnt not do it.
Ana_Burrows:  @Sally – tools for self-honesty.
Rebecca_NY:  I have to leave the chat early….my children are needing me right now. Thank you all for contribution here and I look forward to reading the rest of the chat at a later time! Nasi Novare Coram
Adria_Poland:  @Alison @Kristina Thank you. Yes, now even more than before we need to be responsible and cautious, and prepare ourselves for even harder times, to build a strurdy foundation that will not shake in face of the grave change in the world. That’s what we came here for…
Adria_Poland:  “Here you do not give all your power away to God, thinking that God is going to guide you in everything. That is ridiculous. Here you give yourself greater authority within yourself that is not of your own making. But this authority requires that you become responsible, that you become honest, that you become self-determined. It will require you to follow things that are mysterious, but most of the time you will have to be doing very practical things.”
Alison-Boulder:  @Ayesha, in the early days I felt horror at the idea that I was involved in something where the word “God” was used. Then I realized I wanted to be with this experience. For that time, it was a quiet part of my life. Here is where the directive of “do not go out and tell all of your friends” in Building a Bridge resonated. Something was changing and I wasn’t even alright with it yet, so to give away my early insights as they grew could be detrimental. I was also realizing that I was building a life that I didn’t really want and Knowledge kept “bothering” me, as Levy put it.
Carolyn_CT:  For the Revelation, ‘Building a Bridge to a New Life’, I can deeply relate to the confusion, of ‘wandering in the desert’. Even when I gain moments of clarity, sometimes the confusion rushes back in. But to get back on track, if I can only remember the phrase from somewhere in the NM, that we begin from where we are (the beginning of the Steps perhaps?). This helps me reconnect, and keep on going in doing things like removing my crown of thorns (allowing myself to learned from my mistakes for example). But my favorite moment when I first listened to it a year ago, and was advised, ‘Next. Do not tell everyone….’. I found myself chuckling: Too late! I was already in hot water with family now…
Mathieu_France:  I also have become more sensitive to the emphasis in the Steps and Teachings on “giving oneself” to the practice, to Knowledge. That is a thread to follow for me, and it helps dealing with the Mystery. Rather than trying to be protective where I feel threatened within me and keeping a certain kind of ambivalent/bargaining attitude towards the Mystery, I am trying to stay open and unshielded, vulnerable to Knowledge as I can. I want Knowledge to reshape my life and to give myself to it, but at the same time I can feel layers of fear within me, and the evidence of a lack of trust toward this process of life reshaping. Part of me is still afraid to lose things I hold precious within me, and I have to consciously remind myself that Knowledge holds the best for me and for everyone, therefore I can trust it wholeheartedly, more than anything else. Yet I noticed that taming this frightened animal within me is a process that takes time…
Gina_Boulder:  Ayesha, re: early indications….I felt that I needed to run toward something rather that run away
Jeanne_Boulder:  Stephan, yes my old life failed me so I was looking for something more when I found NM:*)
Mark Hoffman:  In my experience, life inherently creates a structure to the bridge uniquely designed for each of us, that will take us to Knowledge on the other side. We must have the courage to cross that bridge, in the process being stripped of idealism and any other trappings keeping us from Knowledge. Letting go of these various trappings is the hard part because most of them have been embedded in our consciousness from the time we were born, limiting our self-awareness of them.
Alexa:  EllenRose, I completely resonate with your experience of longing for stillness. Very touching. Thank you for sharing.
Asta_dk:  @Sally from boulder, Thank you from bringing this question up! So timely it is. “Is the truth your friend in this relationship or does it threaten what you have established together?”
Will_Society:  Two indications from the beginnings of my own journey that come to mind are these: I was curious to find a deeper meaning and a deeper truth about life than what I was seeing presented and displayed around me. This was out of step with most of what was going on around me. The second indication was when I started feeling a desire for Knowledge and truth beyond my desires, beyond comfort and security and pleasure. Those early days are certainly powerful and important.
Maureen_Boulder:  Well said, Mathieu. I have the same feelings.
Jennie – The Netherlands:  My life changed dramatically last year. Relationships changed. It seems I am fearless and feel so strong and helped in so many ways. The quietness in my mind is sometimes a bit strange and don’t know what to do with it. It’s like I am watching myself all the time. My heart is so open and I am getting more cautious in many situations, which is something new to me.
Dariel_Boulder:  Cameron, As I think of what I said about ‘being a bridge’ over which my AH may enter the world, it occurs to me that this is an ‘internal bridge’ that is being built. Again, the ‘New God Experience’ sheds light on the inner vastness of my undertaking. My AH is beyond comprehension from this reality but I can build this bridge through my inner work fueled by inner experience. I may become this bridge if I build my foundation strong enough. Is my intention–the shared intention of the Coordination? This is a question I must consider…
cole_boulder:  @Ayesha – first indications, I remember, had to do with feeling less motivated by ambition, feeling a distancing from the activities and people I associated with (though I continued to attempt this) and searching for some deeper kind of truth about myself and the world, beginning meditation and researching UFOs again
Asta_dk:  I am in the process of establishing myself in a small community … that is why these questions come so timely to me.
Adria_Poland:  Thank you for this, Mathieu.
Mariska_NL:  Indeed, Mathieu!
Jorge_Spain:  @Sally, to be able to ask calmly and deeply “Is the truth your friend in this relationship or does it threaten what you have established together?” is a very bold step in itself. Sometimes in the past I was very afraid of asking this.
Sally_boulder:  Ahah yes Alison, yes…this is so resonating with me.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Ayesha, During this early phase of my preparation I realized I was beginning to see things in life from an entirely new perspective. Gradually I realized new perspective was Knowledge moving within me.
Betty_UK:  @ Ayesha – re what were the fist indications…? For me, it was experience, my experience changed, I had a greater understanding of myself and others this was while doing the steps. I felt different inside, not the same as I was before, but can’t quite understand it. The experience change and the understanding grows, it keeps growing, with always something new to learn.
Ayesha_Society:  Compromise really stood out for me in this revelation, as I felt this compromise quite strongly during my younger years to the point I could not tolerate it. I believe this compromise was the first indication, it was the driver to fuel my search. As uncomfortable as it was, I had to keep seeking and could not settle down…until I found the NM. From there the real journey began…
MaryL_Boulder:  When I finally admitted to my failures in life and relationships instead of pretending to myself and living in compromise…it was a terrible realization to feel but in hindsight there was a shift in me. I faced myself and my life for all that it was…empty without substance or meaning.
Levy:  @Jennie, thank you for this: “The quietness in my mind is sometimes a bit strange and don’t know what to do with it”. This reminds me of the “vaccum” mentioned in the Wisdom books, leaving an empty space for good things (from Knowledge) to come.
Cameron_Canada:  I am particularly grateful for the Allies of H books. It was the transition of perception I needed to entertain a “religious” connection. I probably would have rejected the NM simply on the basis on my previous definitions.
Rudy_Boulder:  Mathieu, to tame the wild and frightened animal does take time and compassion.
Jennie – The Netherlands:  @Levy, and good things happen a lot because I don’t expect things to happen in my way
Ramona_Romania:  resonating with you MaryL
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you, Mathieu, for this recognition, “Yet I noticed that taming this frightened animal within me is a process that takes time…” I also have these fears and know I must be a self-honest as possible about them. They will trip me up and throw me back if I pretend they are other than fear of ending Separation–and what that might mean for me.
Ilhun_Korea:  “You are looking for a deeper experience now. The experience will be your foundation, not firm beliefs.” – Building the Bridge to a New Life. Now “a deeper experience” is my focus…
Stéphan_Qc.:  @ Cameron. Same here, the Allies have been the stepping stone to the N.M. for me too.
Carol_Society:  This past week, while driving and listening to a radio interview, a new song was mentioned, and the title of it intrigued me: “How Far I’ll Go,” from the animated film Moana. Nominated for Best Song 2016. When I got home, I felt compelled to immediately find it online and as I listened to the words, I was very moved. It brought to my mind the early journey of a NM student, our journeys, my journey – the call, the struggle, the response, the transition. I recalled an analogy Patricia shared a while ago about “moving with the waters vs being on the shore,” I recalled the words of MVS about Steps being the wind for our sails, I recalled Reed’s analogy of The Line. Yet what is more to the point, and what has stayed with me since, is the title of the song itself, How Far I’ll Go, which can be applied in so many areas of our lives, on so many levels…how far I’ll go in this life time, in fulfilling my destiny…… but for right now, applied to this great 2-month opportunity for us that…
Carol_Society:  … has just begun: How Far I’ll Go….How far will I go?…How far will each of us go?
Hardev_Australia:  Another message that comes through strongly for me as a parent is’ “Tell your children that there is a Greater Power within them that will guide and protect them if they listen. Share with them your insights. But do not go too far in trying to share everything, for you are trying to build strength,….” This will go far in me reaching out to my kids.
cray:  The first inclination may have been that I felt restraint, not all of it helpful, about giving myself to people, about doing things others were doing, I could not be comfortable much, and fitting in never happened consistently nor worked. Its a question to spend more time with, so thank you.
Ana_KY:  @Carol..thank you –
Tyyne_Society:  Thank you, Carol.
Jennie – The Netherlands:  The mystery is emerging in my life
Maria_Boulder:  early indications…it feels I can trace them to very early in my life…aware that what was important to me, vs every one I saw around me, was very different..which left me feeling quite alone, except for moments of invisible comfort and reassurance…but since finding the NM, I would say it is the incremental walking away from plans, obligations, ambitions, dreams of the conditioned mind…not because I should anymore, but because there is no energy funding their pursuit in my being anymore…an “I can’t”, regardless of all whom I might disappoint…and a tremendous need to be alone, in the company of the Unknown…listening, however thinly , while I grow stronger…I feel life has been one long set of moments/opportunities, for us to demonstrate our allegiance!
Mariska_NL:  Ayesha, earlier signs were that I wanted to really know and began to have the courage to look at things and investigate things, look deeper to come to know.
Ginny_Dallas:  @ Ayesha, Just a few sentences in and I come to a full stop – “It is a compromise with how you regard yourself, how your regard others and how you regard the world.” I need to be with the questions this asks of me. Also, I found another sentence several verses later, that rearranged itself within my mind and formed a prayer – “…(may I) become a person of power, strength and integrity instead of someone who is mimicking the values of (my) culture.”

Ellen_Society:  Quote from Secrets of Heaven, 194

“Your life has been a bridge, but you pass over it to a greater life. The bridges you build within the world are your organizations and your communities., which allow you to function in the world constructively and not chaotically. You are able to understand these bridges, yet the bridge from the world to the beyond will always be profoundly mysterious, for the beyond is always further than you have gone. Thus, you will have certainty and mystery all together.”
……………………..

Kristina Florida:  Thank you Carol.
Lin_Boulder:  Thank you Carol, simple and profound.
Kristina_Boulder:  @Ayesha, What started my search for something greater was me asking God one day what am I here to do? I remember walking on the street and asking this question within myself, it was more like a cry for help, really. Shortly after my life started to move and change and several months after that I was introduced to the NM, which I did not recognize at first, as I was not looking for a New Messenger, but the word Knowledge deeply resonated within me as I have been experiencing it and could not find a name for it, as well as resonance with the NM material about Greater Community.
Debbie_MI:  For me first indications included a deepening desire for knowledge, stillness, self reflection, and a desire to distance myself from meaningless activities and distractions.
Cameron_Canada:  Since the Forum is down, I thought I would share a poem that sounded like a prayer…so I called it a prayer.
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Rudy.
jeanine_Society:  @Ayesha & Ginny – resonating…
MaryL_Boulder:  I wonder if this building, this bridge we are crossing isn’t always part of the journey for living the Way of Knowledge…do we ever feel that we have arrived to the New Life, to become a New Person? The end? We are finished? The newness has be always there are we fall into stagnation…our thoughts become concrete again. I feel I always have to take the steps to follow what is true for me to do/say. Someone said early “not abilities but choices” so there is always a choice to make if you wish to advance or move with Knowledge,
Cameron_Canada:  New Year Prayer
Douglas_St. Paul:  @Carol “the voice inside me sings a different song”
Cameron_Canada:  As we move forward, in these times of change and upheaval, let this New Year be one that truly marks the beginning of unity and peace, our world so desperately seeks.
And so with forgiveness, to both ourselves, and to our brothers and sisters everywhere, let us make this the true beginning of a humanity that can stand together, in the face of adversity, to reclaim our true expression of love.
Javier South Fl.:  First of all blessings to my fellow World Wide Community. Due to the proximity of yesterdays attack at Ft. Lauderdale Airport can’t stop thinking of the passage (but can’t recall if it was Life In the Universe) that mentions that there will be those who are vulnerable to negative attacks from the mental environment. What can we due to alert those around us what’s going on.
MaryS_Boulder:  Carol, your experience with the song from Moana, “How far..” is similar to mine with every line from the musical Hamilton, which my millennial son tells me is something his peers who used to love “trance” music are listening to on repeat over and over. I definitely see advo possibilities in creating hashtags to bring them in
Raoul_australia:  same here Hardev: “Tell your children that there is a Greater Power within them”
Ken_Oklahoma:  “You are building a bridge to a new life. You are not yet fully living that new life. You are building a bridge. You are in transition.” I recognize this and must continue to take STK…experience Knowledge in my life…maintain the 4 pillars…. strive to be aware and awake in the world…try to be response-able every moment of every day so I can contribute in the world….and continue to practice stillness as often as possible to stay in touch with Knowledge.
Angel_PA:  @ Mathieu Is the wild animal to be tamed or set free? Do we let it be what it is only to be the observer? Is it not necessary to make our way through the physical world of manifestation? Maybe we take it’s energy and redirect it in a healthy and productive way.
Donald_Pa:  Thank you Carol. How far?…..it is all part of the mystery
Jennie – The Netherlands:  @Raoul, I tell my children that they came her for a purpose
Alison-Boulder:  @MaryL, I feel it’s always part of the Journey. I recall things changing for me ten years ago, but I recall things changing for me last week and yesterday too!
Raoul_australia:  Thank you Carol, so inspiring “How Far I’ll Go….How far will I go?…How far will each of us go?”
Will_Society:  Here at the top of the hour, let’s please take an hourly practice together—a moment of stillness and a moment of gratitude to the Messenger, Marshall. His perseverance and efforts have brought real change to our lives, and may indeed bring real change for the world. May his life be an inspiration and motivator for our lives.
Jeanne_Boulder:  Carol thanks for the mention of the song “How far I’ll Go….”
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @Ayesha I was surprised of the strenght felt deep within me at certain times.
Levy:  @Hardev / @Raoul, the word if makes a huge difference “IF they listen”. Thank you for this passage and reminder.
Carol_Society:  @Douglas: Yes, indeed, always felt a different voice/different song inside me–another sign of a greater life awaiting, but I of course I didn’t know that then.
rayhobbs_ colorado:  “… allow yourself to enter the stillness and the certainty that Knowledge possesses for you. In this way, your mind will resonate with the Mind of the universe and you will begin to reclaim your ancient abilities and ancient memories. Here the idea of Spiritual Family will begin to have meaning for you, and you will realize that you have come into the world to serve.” Steps to Knowledge.116
Dariel_Boulder:  Carolyn, Yes, I remember that part as well. Too late! I had been so excited that I wanted to tell the world. I have loved this revelation so much since its release. It seems to me that it covers all the pitfalls that a new student can make and yet still encourages us forward. It was such a great help to me in my early days–and still has so much to give me now.
Ilhun_Korea:  @Ellen : Thank you for the quote.

Carol_Society:  REMINDERS for everyone:

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Raoul_australia:  @Jennie, that’s nice, I found that speaking purpose that triggers deep feelings in people
Adria_Poland:  Thank you all for your wisdom and sharing. I will study the transcript again. Precious hour. Nasi Novare Coram
Jennie – The Netherlands:  @MVS, thank you so much for this revelation, it helps so much, thank you, thank you, thank you
Jill_Boulder:  Thank you everyone NNC
Ana_KY:  Thank you all NNC
Ayesha_Society:  Thank you all, this is a great start to this new school session. I appreciate your heartfelt, earnest sharing here. It serves each of us in many ways. We will have more time to delve into the revelation Building a Bridge to a New Life. We hope to see you here again next Saturday. Many blessings. NNC
MaryL_Boulder:  @mathieu:taming this frightened animal within me is a process that takes time…(9:47AM) oh yes there was much fear to be unlearned…but the Great Love was more powerful than the grip of fear over me.
Alison-Boulder:  ADVOCACY GATHERINGS every Thursday at Uberconference.com/NewMessage, 7pm GMT, 6:30pm MST. We are working together with Society in recent days to share the Afterglow and “2017 Spiritual New Year Resolutions”, which can be found here: http://www.newmessage….2017. Great discussions were also had this past Thursday– thank you everyone for your hard work and moving with the tides. Nasi Novare Coram
Stéphan_Qc.:  Sisters & Brothers in Knowledge, may MMXVII find us all united and supporting the Messenger and the New Message as they are stepping out in the World. Nasi Novare Coram
Hyeonam_Korea:  Thank you Will and Ayesha who moderate today’s chat.
Sally_boulder:  MaryL, there was a point in time when I felt I was living two different lives. One felt included, extremely challenging, and pure. The other felt impulsive, exciting, and empty yet alluring to my mind. At some point I couldn’t take it anymore and I decided to go follow exactly what I thought I wanted. It was as if I wanted to go get disappointed, get it out of my system, and come back to the truth I felt I always knew but was afraid to know. Oh such a cherished memory of disappointment and failure. It was enough to really turn the corner. It had to be just enough to make the turn…
Alison-Boulder:  @Stéphan thank you.
Tamara:  With this practice, with this Message, even my personal mind is coming to know the difference between being in the muddy water of separation verses walking with my higher self. I thank all who are reclaiming Knowledge and all who will, I thank life for moving within me at a depth of clear sensation.
Jorge_Spain:  Beautiful, @Sally
Jeanne_Boulder:  Nasi Novare Coram, Thanks to all for your wisdom. Blessing to MVS, Patricia & Reed.
Robert_Society:  Thank you everyone. Nasi Novare Coram
Sarita_Mtl:  @MaryL, @Sally_boulder, I still feel that way at times… living a dual life. There’s a deeper part of me that knows what I must do. But because I am surrounded by many people living in separation, I find it challenging at times to stay on course. I do find that soon I will have to leave that job and pursue that deeper part of me
Sarita_Mtl:  Thank you all, NNC
Inhee_Korea:  @Ellen, thank you for the quote from Secrets of Heaven, 194
Eron_Boulder:  Blessings everyone. Nasi Novare Coram.
Hyeonam_Korea:  Thank you all. NNC
Lin_Boulder:  Thank you Will and Ayesha, thank you all. NNC.
Maria_Boulder:  @ Sally- Oh! what a beautiful description of the gift (and necessity ) of disappointment!
Nancy_Oregon:  RICH time spent here, much to study again . I notice the learning I am getting, via Chat is providing me coaching . I appreciate so much the encouragement to keep connected and keep going . . . into the new year, the New Life with the NEW MESSAGE. THANK you to the messenger and all the devoted ones, Patricia Reed Ayesha Ellen Darlene, many names, many hearts, Yes thank you Maria ray hobbs and so many others so many beautiful statements are food for my soul. Nasi Novare Coram
Darlene_Society:  Gratitude to everyone for your sharing. So much to be grateful for on this bridge…
Jangsun_Korea:  Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram.
Kristina_Boulder:  @Sally, your experience reminds me of this quote: “Even the most foolish mistakes you will make in this early phase can be very important in giving you wisdom—teaching you what is real, to value what is real, to help you discern what is good from what only looks good, to help you to discern your real inclinations from those impulses that represent your weakness and insecurity.”
Virpi_FI:  Sally, disappointment is part of this journey and have felt like this too. There is a chapter about it in Wisdom books.
Raoul_australia:  Thank you all for this chat, look forward to our next one, Nasi Novare Coram
12202:  Thank you for your sharing, everyone. Good to be with you all today, to be inspired and learn from your experiences and perspectives.
Betty_UK:  I wish to say my gratitude for the perseverence and forbearance of the Messenger and all those who supported him and carry on supporting him all these years. Without you all the world wouldn’t have a future. May we thank our blessings.
Angel_PA:  Thank you everyone. Nasi Novare Coram
44444:  “Your task is to follow the emergence of Knowledge within yourself, to be true to that, to be the recipient, to pull yourself in, to take the time it takes for a great emergence to happen within you. And do not be impatient, for it will emerge in its own time. You do not yet realize the magnitude of what is happening or how great its possibilities for the future will be.” Nasi Novare Coram
Betty_UK:  Nasi Novare Coram
Patricia_Society:  To all, there is not a “Teacher” in the world that could possibly reveal, lay out or counsel us or people like us who are undergoing such a enormous,yet mysterious life change, the way the New Message and its Voice of Revelation do. No one. In my early life, during the decade long precarious search and journey that lead finally to my finding Marshall, I was fortunate to have 8 encounters with what I have come to term “remarkable people”. Each “remarkable person” carefully dispensed a directive or delivered an impression that had a significant effect upon me…These encounters lent validity to the mysterious journey I felt I was engaged with, which had to compete side-by-side with the demands of a young life. It was like living two lives simultaneously. However, no one remained at my side. Having to travel 99% of the time without a guidebook or guide was perilous, as risks and pitfalls were everywhere almost every step…The odds of finding MVS were infinitesimal. I needed help. The…
Patricia_Society:  … remarkable people were god-sent to me, howerver, I am clear in discerning and recognizing that in this Voice, its Word, this revelation, The Bridge to a New Life, there is nothing, and there is no one in the world who stands to offer us such wisdom, such perspective…such a footing on this mysterious mountain of consequential calling, destiny and service…..And in such a time in the world where our service is needed, so needed….The Voice of the New Message is the wisest voice in the world….It is speaking to us now….merely days ago… in “The New God Experience. ” it is the miraculous “remarkable person” that millions of people will have their mysterious encounter with……May it be so….May we help make this so, as we take this Revelation further out into society, culture and humanity at large….This is our time to help. It is the time…..
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Ellen for sharing the quote from Secrets of Heaven, 194.
Carolyn_CT:  I watched and drew inspiration from a Netflix series called, The OA. OA stands for Original Angel, the first of five in this case. The person who was called to be the OA experienced several NDAs in which she met her own angel/guide who kept offered her choices and, even though she could have stayed, she chose each time to return to a world in pain, a world that needed her, with the gifts she was given. It was very inspiring and reminds me of the NM a lot. It helps me to see this because death has brushed up very close to me several times in my life. I imagine there must be one or two people in our chat who have this kind of experience. It is why I have chosen the New Message, or was led to it, or was chosen by it. It does not matter any more how, only that…that this choice was made.
Reed_Society:  @Mathieu, “taming this frightened animal within me is a process that takes time…” thank you, yes so much is uncovered, challenged in the long journey, especially once the real mission and work are taken up and carried out over many years. That is why a beginning student can sometimes carry the air and appearance of resolution, clarity and commitment, and the intermediate student further down the road can actually have the appearance of greater struggle, doubt and confusion. It is a question of involvement, of movement, and of work. Many truths can be idealized and expressed when uninvolved in the real and challenging movement of one’s life, and yet once you’re really involved, so much will be uncovered and required, as you live on the often vulnerable and undefined edge of real life movement, where new factors come into play – endurance, complexity of life, having to meet all sides of life alongside a mission, forgiveness and acceptance, digging deep to really provide for family,…
Reed_Society:  … career and mission. Reminds me of the old teaching regarding “looking good” – that “there is Knowledge, and then there is looking good.” Or I may add: there is looking good, and there is moving in life, and moving in life brings about many things.
Arthur:  I am aware of the fact that I’ve been something of a miserable “slob” for quite some time. But you see I was chained to something I couldn’t see, something able to dominate my experience of life. Just wanted to share that that’s no longer the case, it is still there but I am no longer identifying with it.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Carol_Soc, (8:54), “…How far I’ll Go…” I’m really resonating with that…
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @Thank you Carol for How far will I go.
Carol_Society:  For anyone else interested in hearing the song, reading the lyrics of How Far I’ll Go: https://www.youtube.co…UunPA
jeanine_Society:  @Patricia – it is indeed a miracle and it is indeed ‘time’…may we all rise to this occasion and continue to take the next Steps on our Journeys…
Anna_Boulder:  Thank you, Patricia, for so strongly reminding me of what I know to be true of the New Message and our responsibility to it.
44444:  Thank you Patricia “remarkable people were god-sent to me, however, I am clear in discerning and recognizing that in this Voice, its Word, this revelation, The Bridge to a New Life, there is nothing, and there is no one in the world who stands to offer us such wisdom, such perspective…such a footing on this mysterious mountain of consequential calling, destiny and service…” so true
Debbie_MI:  Thank you Reed for your words of wisdom on the Journey and how understanding changes over time.
Donald_Pa:  https://www.youtube.co…ItIng Here is a link to a song “Shrine” by Jeff Beck that inspired me, I hope you enjoy it.
Hardev_Australia:  Thank you Patricia, “The Voice of the New Message is the wisest voice in the world…” so grateful that we have all made it here and to be part of this great global movement. NNC
Ilhun_Korea:  Thank you Patricia.
Tamara:  Reed….what you shared brings me to sobbing tears……like the timing of this months study, I so deeply needed something, something I cannot describe fully. Like claws ripping from flesh, I feel this way at times.
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Patricia “The New God Experience. ” it is the miraculous “remarkable person” that millions of people will have their mysterious encounter with……May it be so….May we help make this so, as we take this Revelation further out into society, culture and humanity at large….This is our time to help. It is the time…..

Shrimayi Netherlands:  @Ellen Thank you for this Quote!

“Your life has been a bridge, but you pass over it to a greater life. The bridges you build within the world are your organizations and your communities., which allow you to function in the world constructively and not chaotically. You are able to understand these bridges, yet the bridge from the world to the beyond will always be profoundly mysterious, for the beyond is always further than you have gone. Thus, you will have certainty and mystery all together.”
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Carol_Society:  Deep gratitude to everyone. Nasi Novari Coram
jeanine_Society:  Please find Patricia’s recent Afterglow in the Journal of the New Message here: http://www.newmessage….urnal
MVS Society:  Angel, if the mind is like a wild animal, you cannot ride it. Yet it naturally seeks direction from Knowledge, and if not from Knowledge, then from the world at large.
JeffreyAdler_ATL:  yes, thank you Reed. Your statement above gives my solace.
Jim B. Upstate Ny:  Thank you Patricia for those powerful words of insight and inspiration! They are truly felt within me for these times of confusion and uncertainty in my life. Thank you1
MVS Society:  Regarding us, the Angelic Assembly will say “if they listen, they will come.”
Hardev_Australia:  @ Reed, thank you for your insight on there is Knowledge and there is looking good. Moving in life brings about many things, and this will be my next step for the new year ahead.
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you, Reed, for those thoughts. I am so grateful for every student whose tenacious self-honesty uncovers these ‘wild animals’, by being really involved and willing to “live on the often vulnerable and undefined edge of real life movement…”. They pave an easier path for those who follow.
Patricia_Society:  Afterglow of The New God Experience – feel free to take yourself to the entrance of the cave of revelation…so happy for Marshall and all of us that the Society can share these accountings with the world. There you can contribute your own Live experience of your Going to God Experience. From the last 2 month School session so much was shared on Chat. May some of your experiences be recorded along Marshall’s at the Afterglow accounting. http://www.newmessage….urnal Thank you all………..
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  I would like to say that upon investigating this revelation, ” Building a bridge…” I am enjoying it with the same kind of spirit that a fledgling bird has in the nest when the wings are fanned for the first time. Such joy in the action that is so much a part of my nature, such gratitude for the instruction and community that supports it! This is what I was made for… it unfolds as it should and my heart sings and flies with abandon when it tastes truthfulness and real goodness. The flavour of authentic experience has no comparison. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication every one!
Martin_Australia:  Thank you, MVS. “If they listen, they will come”. The great attraction of God.
Kelton Santa Cruz Ca:  I am so grateful for this opportunity to spend time in this bountiful garden of higher relationship – receiving and sharing the fruits of great purpose with all of you. Many thanks for all that you share. NNC
Dariel_Boulder:  Yes, Tamara. Thank you for sharing that experience of, ” Like claws ripping from flesh, I feel this way at times.” I certainly know this experience and it is good to know ‘I am not alone.’
Angel_PA:  @MVS Yes, and as we grow our connection with Knowledge, it naturally comes to serve. It’s less about taming it and more about growing the connection to Knowledge. It is a dual process of allowing and letting go.
Serena_Montreal:  @Patricia, thank you.. This reminds me something you said some time ago along the lines of.. “In the end, It’s between you and them.(The Teachers)” I keep this reality close to me. Among all the conditioning and influences from the world, there are limitless justifications and reasons for acting in ways that are inappropriate. This really helps me to break those chains of conditioning.
Jim B. Upstate Ny:  Thank you Reed as well for your powerful words on wisdom and experience for they are heart felt. The times we live in and the conditioning that has taken place in us all is overwhelming at times; to unlearn and start a new…especially if there were no curriculum. I just want to say thank you to MVS. Patricia, Reed and the Society and other students I am close to for giving me the curriculum, the blueprint if you will for me…for us to guide us towards the choices and even the errors to a new life. Words cannot describe the gratitude inside me. Thank you!
Maria_Boulder:  @ MVS- so humbled and grateful to you for your presence here with us, shining a steady light, as we stumble and fumble along our way up this great mountain.
44444:  Thank you Marshall
Reed_Society:  I’m struck by “The Ship” analogy in the New Message, that there is being moored in the harbor, dissolute, unable to sail one’s ship, and then there is preparing your ship for the open seas, staffing it with the resources (mental, physical), crew (thoughts), proper sails and masts to catch the wind (knowledge) and then sail those open sees, bringing the cargo (Knowledge, and the gifts we brought) to where they must go. In this analogy, there are those who expound truths and realizations in the harbor meeting houses, and then there are those 3000 miles away, out to see, navigating the real journey. One of them may “look” much better than the other, and it may not be the one you expect! In my years at the center of the New Message, watching on as so many people came, went, stayed, served, this analogy has born out. It makes all the difference whether a person is moored in the harbor, or whether they are out to sea. Everything looks and feels different between the two, and normal…
Reed_Society:  … comparisons can’t really be made.
Tamara:  Dariel…..ever more I find that in ‘facing our world in decline’, I am bringing myself out of decline. I often must remind myself that I am not alone and that I am not broke beyond repair.
Alexa:  @ Serena_Montreal, which reminds me of Mother Teresa´s “Do it anyway”
Reed_Society:  @All, Thank you for walking this bridge, and living in this “bridge experience” for the length of time it takes to really shift our lives in a new direction, and then move in that direction
MarkBerger  “Come to me…come to me…I’ve been waiting so long…waiting for you to hear my song” – MVS (and the AA)
Ellen_Society:  Thank you, Reed!
jeanine_Society:  Thank you Will & Ayesha for hosting this powerful Chat today. Deep Gratitude to the Messenger for receiving this latest revelation and not skipping a beat in continuing to follow his Greater Purpose. We are so lucky to have this living, breathing role model in our midsts…Nasi Novare Coram.
cole_boulder:  thank you for sharing your wisdom Reed
Ilhun_Korea:  Thank you Reed.
Tamara:  It is when the wind is not blowing, when the ship seems lost at sea, that my
Maureen_Boulder:  Immense gratitude for this weekly sharing and connection with all of you.
Tamara:  Steps practice holds greater anchoring in my life.
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you Tamara. You are truly confronting the ‘wild animals’ and moving forward.
Hardev_Australia:  @Reed, the ones in the harbor, dissolute, and the ones preparing to sail and the one out in the sea on the journey reminds of the greater coordination where those who are stronger with Knowledge guide those that follow.
Levy:  This insight gives me clarity, thanks Reed!
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Reed.
JeffreyAdler_ATL:  Reed, that place between shifting and moving calls to mind Marshall’s wisdom, “…when action eclipses consideration.”
Tamara:  Hardev…. “those who are stronger with Knowledge guide those that follow” makes me think of our Teachers, of the Angelic Assembly……they are like the stars guiding the ships. Thank you.
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you Will and Ayesha–and thank you to the Messenger and Family for all you have given to make this gift available to us and to humanity. NNC
Mike_LF_CAL:  Thank you Marshall, Patricia, Reed, Ayesha, The Society and th WWC. Nasi Novare Coram, Mavron Mavron Conay Mavron.
Hardev_Australia:  @ Tamara, when I look into the stars at night I see they are there for me and I am here for them.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @ Beautiful said Shawn ,thank you!
MVS Society:  Maria, I admire those who put in the effort and who do not give up. Here persistence is more important than perfection.
MaryL_Boulder:  with gratitude and love NNC
Hyeonam_Korea:  Thank you MVS, Patricia and Reed. I really want to follow your demostration. Nasi Novare Coram
Mathieu_France:  Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram
Ilhun_Korea:  Thank you MVS. “Here persistence is more important than perfection.”
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Thank you MVS my gratitude is beyond words.
Ramona_Romania:  I want to tell you that I always wanted to hear Marshall after a recording, or near when receiving a revelation. and when I heard the recording my heart was filled with peace and kind of feeling that it will be fine. like an encuragement . Thank you so much for sending it Marshall, Patricia and Society!http://www.newmessage….e.mp3
MarkBerger:  “Never give up on something you can’t go a day without thinking about.” – Winston Churchill
Hardev_Australia:  Thank you for this Fireside Chat. My deepest gratitude to all. NNC.
Mariska_NL:  Thank you all, NNC
Ilhun_Korea:  Thank you All. Nasi Novare Coram.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Thank you all! NNC
Alexa:  Thank you all _/I\_Where would I be without you…

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