Robert_Society:  Please consider the wisdom shared with us last week by the Messenger:

“As you move out of the jungle of your mind, you are still faced with a world of people who are lost in that Jungle. What you bring to them is the degree of freedom, clarity and power you have regained so far. This will naturally emerge from you in your engagement with the world. You do not need to teach it.”

“To move freely in and out of the jungle both within yourself and within the world, you cannot be bound to it. You have to know it is not who you are. It becomes the environment in which you serve.”

“Want nothing from the Jungle and you will begin to experience freedom from it. Taking the Steps up the mountain, you will rise above this jungle and see it compassionately and with gratitude for giving you the vision and the commitment to find and follow the clear path out.”

“Conspiracy is alluring, but it is still the Jungle.”

“Be kind and patient with yourself. Anger, frustration, sadness, despair all…

Robert_Society:  … come up along the way to be flushed out of you. This is all the detritus of Separation.”
Martin_Australia:  Hello WWC
Thérèse_FL:  Good Morning everyone … between Irma & eye surgery I have missed you all.
Howard Boulder:  Hi everyone
Bhargav_Columbus:  Good to see you too Dariel.
Carol_Society:  Warm greetings to each of you.
manuel germany :):  many thanks Robert_Society to share that wisdom with us. So much to learn…
Hyeonam_Korea:  Greetings all! Nasi Novare Coram
LaRaeUK:  Greetings all…so blessed to be able to join you today.
Heidi_Germany:  Hi, everyone!
Betty_UK:  Hello everyone
Greg_UK:  Hello everyone 
manuel germany :):  Hi Heidi  welcome. I´ve got a surprise for you 
Rosa_UK:  Hello everyone so good to be here again! NNC
Kari_H_Finland:  “Look to the stars with clarity and sobriety. It is a challenging but wondrous environment in the universe, but you must be strong and determined in order to emerge into this larger arena.” [Guidelines for Preparing for the Greater Community, 2008]
Heidi_Germany:  Manuel, I like surprises! 
Betty_UK:  Hello everyone
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Hello everyone!
manuel germany :):  You will love it Heidi. Hi Betty_UK – good to see you again 
Betty_UK:  Hello Manuel, good to be here 
Cole_Boulder:  hello everyone
Will_Society:  Hello everyone. As we begin our Campfire Chat today let us take a few moments of stillness together in an hourly practice.
Levy_Brazil:  Greetings from Santos, Brasil to all
Heidi_Germany:  Then , Manuel, I hope you do not let me wait too long. 
Surina_Calif.:  Good Day, Everyone! Wonderful to be here! Nasi Novare Coram
Tonia_Denmark:  Hello all. Nnc.
Diane S. New Mexico:  Good Morning everyone
Robert_Society:  Welcome everyone to month 2, week 2 of our current Free School session – Preparing for Contact with Intelligent Life in the Universe. The central revelation for this month is “The Great Challenge Awaiting Humanity”. Also a warm welcome to all new students joining us today. Let us bring our attention and focus to our Chat as we continue in our support of and movement with the New Message and its Messenger.
Debbie_MI:  @Therese_FL-I’m glad you are able to be back on the Chat!
Katia_France:  Hello everyone!
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you, Robert. Happy to be here.
Douglas_St. Paul:  Greetings from Minnesota, USA
manuel germany :):  @Heidi – Top secret – have a look into your chat 
mellany UK:  Hi everyone!
Thérèse_FL:  Thanks Debbie

Will_Society:  As we mentioned in the pre-Chat, we invite you to share your perspective and thoughts around the first question for today:

From all that you have read regarding the Greater Community, how do you view preparation for contact? What do you believe that preparation to be?

Tuukka Finland:  Hello everyone!
David_Drimmel:  Greetings all in the world today, gathering for this worldwide community campfire chat
manuel germany :):  Hi Mel and Katia, Cole, Levy, Tonia and Douglas_St.Paul – good to see you
Darlene_Society:  Hello to our growing Worldwide Community wherever you are!
Cole_Boulder:  hey Manuel : )
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Will, Preparation for contact is imperative for humanity to undertake if it is to remain a free society in the GC. Humanity is not ready for contact but contact and intervention has already been underway for quite some time and so now it is a catch up game so to speak, for most of the population does not take the matter seriously in the sense that we could lose our freedom AND ALL THAT WE VALUE. Many things come to mind for me with the phrase “They (TGC) does not value what humanity values…” a very simple basic part of being human is our ability to love…what do you think would happen to the basic family element… the love of family… if one is born from a test tube, without mother, without a father… what family is there to identify with?… Well, that would be the state wouldn’t it… your “progenitor.” Therefore, preparation must occur and primarily it should be development in the mental environment and the becoming advanced in the Greater Community way of Knowledge. The only way…
Mike_LF_CAL:  … humanity is going to make it is if it can become strong in the way of Knowledge, to be able to detect influence in the mental environment and to know the true intentions of visiting races here, this is required in order to hold onto what we value… the most precious value of the human family.
Bethne_UK:  Yes Therese,I’m glad you’ve come through those challenges safely too and please to see you here.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @Will I feel that to engage with the Greater Community will take great focus and concentration from the mind and to be able to use the tools we are developing through our practice in STK! My practice is the most important thing in my life now for this and for the survival 1st of the Great Waves of Change. To be unburdened and to cut your way out of the jungle are the 1st steps for me. This is all a great process in life for us all. That is why we are here and are giving of ourselves to receive the gifts The Creator of all life through MVS has given to us to prepare and bridge a new life in the world. Having 1 foot in our Ancient home and 1 foot in the world is key for the bridge to be built and to walk on.
Douglas_St. Paul:  Guten abend manuel!
Kari_H_Finland:  For me the preparation for contact is to bring myself out from my personal dilemmas and to become a citizen of the world and the Greater Community
Asta_dk:  Hello from Denmark, hope my name will show
Diane S. New Mexico:  For me, the preparation is “Steps to Knowledge”
Jeffrey_Boulder:  I must stay neutral and present, without judgment or fear, and not be wrecked by events in order to stay effective in the world. Steps to Knowledge have helped me tremendously in this preparation, a preparation to participate effectively.
Bruce in Cape Cod:  I view it as a mental preparation – people coming to terms with a non-human community that will be worse than used car salesmen in it’s attempts at persuasion…
Douglas_St. Paul:  Your name is showing, Asta
mellany UK:  Hi Manuel :))
Tonia_Denmark:  Likewise Manuel, thank you.
Chrysostomos:  Hi everybody
manuel germany :):  @Douglas_St.Paul – I am impressed. Do you speak German? yes?
Diane S. New Mexico:  Yes, mental preparation is very important…
Douglas_St. Paul:  Cheating with Google Translate. Good enough for this.
manuel germany :):  absolutely, but thx anyway 
Paul_MA:  I view preparation to be very important as Alien Contact with humanity will cause disruption of varying degrees within a wide range of areas of human activity. I need to be ready for this disruption from a practical living standpoint. But I also want to be ready to utilize the Contact event as an opportunity or opening to bring the New Message and Knowledge to people who are receptive.
Alen India:  being alert
Rose, the Netherlands:  Hello everyone, good to meet you here!
ray_Colorado:  Nasi Novare Coram
Kelvin_Boulder:  @Will, What comes up for me regarding preparation is the ability to discern manipulation and it’s many faces, both intentional and indirect, both beautiful and pleasant and fear based. To hold to what we know to be true and never be intimidated by the fear of loss or isolation.
Hyoyoung Kim:  hello every member im happy to be here
Thérèse_FL:  Thank you so much Bethne … still a bit of a challenge to read but I try to rest my eyes off & on … may take me all day to get thru this Chat … no time to get into trouble LOL
78400:  @Jeffrey Well said.
Bethne_UK:  Good to see you here Asta.
Hyeonam_Korea:  Wow Welcome Hyoyoung!
Ellen_Society:  Welcome, Hyoyoung!
Jorge_Spain:  Resonating, @Kelvin
Lin_Boulder:  Welcome, Hyoyoung!
Douglas_St. Paul:  Can you name and place yourself, 78400
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @ Will It is about becoming a unified race to be capable of interacting with the Greater Community.
Becoming stronger with Knowledge individually, doing the work that we came here to do. Becoming stronger in the Mental Environment.
Hyoyoung Kim:  thanks ellen^^
Darlene_Society:  Kelvin, “To hold to what we know to be true and never be intimidated by the fear of loss or isolation” this is strength in the M.E.
Mike_LF_CAL:  Welcome Hyoyoung Kim!
Hyoyoung Kim:  Hyeonam hello
Darlene_Society:  Hello dear Hyoyoung!
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  I see the preparation as a realignment of our selves at the most fundamental level,effecting the way we see and are aware of our surroundings and our inner life.
Thérèse_FL:  Right there with you Jeffrey
ellenrose-boulder:  @Will: for me, part of the preparation has included remembering. Sometimes strange recalls enter my mind. I used to dismiss them as “antics of the mind” until I realized that some of them felt different- they felt like memory. Being with these experiences has helped me prepare for contact/emergence on a different level.
Bethne_UK:  Welcome Hyoyoung!
Douglas_St. Paul:  Pleased to see you Hyoyoung (in a manner of speaking)
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Step 236-With Knowledge I will Know What to Do. This step says a lot to me and is so deep in its understanding. We may think we know when we don’t. Knowledge-“[It] can only be experienced by accepting its presence and carrying out its direction.”
justin-calif-!:  For me I am attempting to contact my Teachers- let them know I am willing to do what I’m here to do. I figure if I can get their attention, hopefully they can give me some guidance-
Angela_PA:  At the core of preparation is developing Knowledge within oneself and also helping to reach others. Once Knowledge is dominate in the individual, It will guide the way and also give one the strength needed when facing ridicule and the challenges of sharing the truth about alien intervention.
David_Drimmel:  The Preparation… well… It is said the preparation is given through the Steps To Knowledge. So much doing and undoing here. If it’s the only preparation given to humanity to encounter the greater community, we have a long ways to go. So part of the preparation is taking the steps and also advocating TNM and allies to educate, inform and empower people to rise up to the challenges we face. People need to know the truth and prepare for a future that will be unlike the past.
LaRaeUK:  Staying strong in my Steps practice is the key to my internal preparation, so my mind will not bend so easily to the mental forces of the intervention. The external preparation involves planting seeds of awareness in others about the intervention.
Paul_MA:  Hi Mike….”for most of the population does not take the matter seriously in the sense that we could lose our freedom AND ALL THAT WE VALUE.”.. Yes the population is in disbelief on many fronts… whether it is the mindset that “it could not happen to me”, or like a frog in a slowly boiling pot of water, not noticing the change till its too late….-Paul
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Justin, GOOD point for us all to keep in mind!
inhee_Korea:  Hi Hyoyoung!
Hyoyoung Kim:  hello Mike Darlene Bethne Douglas and all members thanks a lot . here is Korea i forgot my name changing
Douglas_St. Paul:  I’m preparing to confront what I don’t know that I don’t know without terror.
Alison_Boulder:  If we could simply prepare ourselves, the Allies of Humanity would not have risked their lives to come near enough to give their briefings, and our Teachers and Messenger would not have given the preparation. This tells me that we need the curriculum from beyond that we are studying, and it must be passed on.
Bethne_UK:  Well said La Rae.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @ Will The preparation would be:Stillness practise, working with the mind to become someone with a strong mind, which is needed in this greater environment. Becoming strong with Knowledge listen and act on Knowledge.
Marianna:  I think that the first step to get out of jungle is to learn how to use the compass.
Paul_MA:  David: People need to know the truth and prepare for a future that will be unlike the past.(11:14AM)…the challenge is finding the ones open to listen and searching.
Greg_UK:  @Alison excellent point!
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Paul_MA, yes the frog in the slowly heating pot is an excellent analogy.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @Alison…so true!
Rosa_UK:  To strengthen Knowledge within oneself and to be strong in the mental environment. To know when one is being influenced or not, and to be able to face anything and everything that comes across your path.
Cole_Boulder:  @Will, to me, preparation for contact means becoming a more mature and stable individual, who has a connection to his deeper life and mind and can be effective in the world. Fundamentally, I believe this means gaining an education in the Mental Environment through Steps to Knowledge. Only through the power of Knowledge, in service to humanity, can we be efficacious in this realm.
Cole_Boulder:  “Humanity has not yet learned that power in the universe is power in the mental environment.”
http://www.newmessage….asion
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Hi Asta and Rose good to see you here!
Rudy_Boulder:  The preparation is to know my tendencies, my weaknesses, my desires, my fears and things that hold me back. In the face of the Greater Community and/or intervention, these things can be amplified. How am I going to even be ready for contact, if I am still being swept away by the conditions of my mind? This is why it is important to be able to discern my mind, the nudges from Knowledge, and my influences, so that I may have an opportunity to engage with contact even on a small scale and not be caught off guard.
Paul_MA:  Alison-…this speaks volumes about the urgency that we face, and about what is “hidden” from us both from a planetary change and a GC change.
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you, Will. It is a tough question because confusion is everywhere, but I know that the moment something greater reached into my life almost 4 years ago, it xchanged everything significantly. The preparation would be to take the steps as a reccommendation, but in its essense, it would be to solve the problems centered around relationships. Not just regarding certain relationships, but to solve the problems, we are presented, so that in the future, this and that problem would’nt arise again. I mean to work towards a mental balance both being around the male and the female individual of all ages. Step by step.
Martin_Australia:  Alison, yes, we need Knowledge, a new revelation and great assistance
Jennie Netherlands:  To learn to discern the different forces and become strong with Knowlegde
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Rosa_UK, “…To know when one is being influenced …” indeed!
Levy_Brazil:  Rudy, word, thank you
Angela_PA:  @Rudy well said..thank you!
Debbie_MI:  To me my preparation is focusing on consistent and meaningful practice of STK, the building and nurturing of knowledge centered relationship with MVS, Patricia, Reed, The Society & WWC, and the consistent and ongoing study and application of the NM over time. Also, a growing emphasis on building my Four Pillars.
LaRaeUK:  Well said Rudy….
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @Rudy yes well said!
Darlene_Society:  Rudy, a starting point for sure is this kind of honest self reflection…as uncomfortable as it is.
Alison_Boulder:  @Yes, Paul : “…it is not a mystery. It is a concealed truth, concealed by many forces.” – Preparing for the GC. It is a secret that must be revealed, it can be known.
Paul_MA:  Debbie- yes working on the core building one’s core strengths through Practices & Relationships.
Diane S. New Mexico:  Yes, Rosa I must strengthen Knowledge within myself, and be more prepared when entering the mental environment.
Kelvin_Boulder:  @Rudy, well said as it says in the NM, the 4 pillars and Greater Community awareness are only half the preparation. The next phase once we have a very strong and stable table is learning about the mental environment.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Debbie_MI, yes all true as well!
Kelvin_Boulder:  Sorry meant tabl
James_Boulder:  @Tonia- yes “solving our problems around relationships…” preparing to be in relationship, relationship with our personal side, relationship with Knowledge, relationship with the GC, relationship to life and the preparation it holds for each of us. If indeed our strength lies in unification we must be prepared to be deeply relational.
Insuk_Korea:  Rudy thank you.
Eron_Boulder:  @Will…Many years ago not long after arriving in Colorado Marshall asked me to attend a UFO conference where he would be speaking the next day. It was my first one of this sort. After returning home after the conference Marshall asked me what I had learned that might provide some insight into the event for his talk. The thing that struck me most was the amazing array of stories, theories and declarations that the speakers presented, many in conflict with other presenters. So the question that I came away with was “How can I distinguish the truth if there is any among all of this information”? What I told Marshall was that he had something that no one else had and that was the path to Knowledge. That was the only thing that could help one navigate the treacherous waters of the Greater Community. Steps to Knowledge and the New Message are the only real preparations for encountering any aspect of the Greater Community. Education is the key.
Tom_SanFrancisco:  sharing this news. possibly the beginning of disclosure? https://www.huffington…14874
ray_Colorado:  @Will ” … to understand that the world is being influenced allows you to view it from a greater perspective, which from a purely human viewpoint you would not be able to accomplish, for a purely human viewpoint does not allow for other intelligent life to exist. The absurdity of this point of view becomes quite evident as you begin to look at the universe objectively. This will inspire in you wonder, greater interest and caution as well. This is very important because the world is being influenced by the Greater Community, and you are part of the world that is being influenced.
AS THE PHYSICAL WORLD THAT YOU LIVE IN is being influenced by greater physical forces beyond your visual range, so the world mentally is being influenced by intelligent life that is engaged with your world. This intelligent life represents forces for good and forces for ignorance as well. In this, you must come to comprehend a fundamental truth: Weaker minds are influenced by stronger minds. This is true in…
ray_Colorado:  … your world and in all worlds.” (Step 202 http://stepstoknowledg…e.htm)
Mathieu_France:  @Ellenrose: thank you for sharing this. Not sure you r experience is related, but that reminds me of “Being a GC person”… I think our deeper memories, past GC experiences related or even related to our Ancient origin are a key to develop a consciousness beyond the limitations of a purely human born life. None of us, in that light, is purely human. Our deeper nature understands the Greater Community and do not fear it, is not overwhelmed by it, as it is anchored in what unites everything beyond the apparent differences of culture, history and races. “If you were to meet another being from another world—a being who did not share your language or your appearance, a being who did not breathe your atmosphere, a being whose history was far different from your own, whose environment was very different from your own—you could still communicate with this being through Knowledge. You would understand each other’s intentions, and, if you were well cultivated, you could communicate to each other…
Mathieu_France:  … through the language of Knowledge, which is a language of impressions, images and signs.” Religion in the GC-LIU
Tonia_Denmark:  It would also be a resposibility to be aware of the unburdening period and what this is about.
Chrysostomos:  For me preparing for the GC is to understand that the undergoing intervention will use the religion as deception. Christianity Islam and Buddhism are 90% of religious group in the world. Christianity is the dominant religion and the undergoing war in Syria i would say is part of the plan. US as the new empire of the world is the most vulnerable for deception by aliens and alien technology. Emerging in the GC and having so many conflicts any allies aliens will be faced as enemies if the intervention has already compromise governments such USA. Preparing for this, acquiring Knowledge will be the best defence in the undergoing mind control with all means.
Greg_UK:  @Will In my approach to Greater Community issues I try to have as broad and well informed a perspective as possible, a strategic overview of possibilities, which could be deployed as a particular set of circumstances or scenario. Being prepared in one way is being prepared to receive guidance and being able to recognise it in the moment and act on it.
Douglas_St. Paul:  @Tom_SanFrancisco, also an opportunity for comment advocacy
Tuukka Finland:  I have noticed that contemplating other ideas than those presented in Steps can be harmful with the exception of other teachings in the New Message (though I can also focus too much on reading too). But there’s certainly a point for me where I’m taking in too much and therefore diminishing focus from Steps and Pillars. This is my experience right now, in the beginning Steps… It’s the “trap of trying too hard”, as Reed pointed out last campfire chat. There needs to be a balance… to try, but no to detriment to my development (which to me is like panicking).
Betty_UK:  I interestingly had a conversation with a work colleague, who was going through a difficult emotional time, and to my surprise she mentioned about the Great Waves of change Book that she read, she said to me ‘I thought preparation was stock piling medication and food, but that’s not preparation.’ and she carried on and asked me ‘ What is the preparation?’ and within many things was going through my mind that I was aware of at the time’ things like, how can I explain this?, I can’t explain this, it’s too big’ and in a moment of sobriety ‘ Steps to Knowledge’ came to mind. I replied to her ‘Steps to Knowledge’ – Prior to our conversation we talked about a dream she had, and I was listening to what she was expressing, and her interpretation of her dream etc… and I realised that it seemed as if she could not see the obvious, until it was pointed out. I then realised that the personal mind clouds the vision to see clearly. And having the eyes to see is what Steps to Knowledge provide.
Kari_H_Finland:  What is preparation? I think that it is practicing real seeing, real knowing and real acting.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  We are all practicing now and have been for as long as you have. What many have said is all so very important. Yet, when things begin to become more clear to us in the world there will come a time and many times after that we will have to respond and to act. This is what Knowledge is asking of us in so many capacities. We will know when to act and when not to act. We will have to know when to move and when not to. ETC. Again this all takes time and the center of it all is our relationship with Knowledge , with ourselves and with others and the world. There is so much I don’t know and don’t really understand but this is what time is for…to practice in coming to the center line of action, compassion, tolerance and certainty. so much to do and the hour is late.
Paul_MA:  How am I preparing for contact?
1.) As with preparation for GWC, I am working on getting my life in order and transitioning to a new way of life, utilizing the Four Pillars/Kg as a guiding framework.
2.) I am viewing our world now as being affected by Contact and am looking for events/clues of this Contact. I am developing a “list” of what the Visitors value and are after within this world.
3.) I am exploring past Intervention Events (human) and their resultant consequences; such as the impact on the Native Americans of North America. Looking to these events/outcomes and visioning that forward to the future.
4.) Looking at ways to use this Contact as an Opportunity to catalyze the spread of the New Message throughout humanity.
Tonia_Denmark:  Oh, sorry, I didnt get to read the reply from one of you
Cole_Boulder:  @James – “prepared to be deeply relational” – yes, thank you, that strikes something in me…
“At first, it may seem that Knowledge is your goal and relationships are the means. Yet ultimately, true relationships are the goal, and Knowledge is the means.”
http://www.newmessage….rself
Martin_Australia:  “There will be a few people in the world who will recognize it and who will make a sincere attempt to comprehend its meaning. If they can be successful, if they can learn a Greater Community Way of Knowledge, they will be in a position to educate and to guide others and will themselves be a positive force for advancement within the world.
Yet they too face great difficulties, but they must learn to see the situation with new eyes and with a new understanding. They must develop their perception and discernment. They must be able to learn about life in the Greater Community, to comprehend the meaning and the intent of the visitors. They must have the ability to see that the visitors are not angels and are not demons but are real sentient beings like themselves. They must move beyond the dichotomy of good and evil in order to see clearly and objectively.” ¬ Human Responses to the GC
David_Drimmel:  Chrysostomos. You can see this already taking place. Disclosure is a difficult thing, because there’s so many repercussions from it happening. As the Allies state, people want things from the visitors. With how the culture is in America, fantasy, hollywood, etc… It’s easy to want things from the visitors, and expect they are here for our salvation, or to annihilate us.
Douglas_St. Paul:  I had a new thought this week, that the European settlement of North America was ordinary conquest, while the Intervention is subtler, sneakier, more underhanded and manipulative.
David_Drimmel:  Yet this is still a global issue. No one nation stands alone.
ray_Colorado:  @Chrysostomos “The way is mysterious because you do not govern it. The way is mysterious because it is not dependent upon your past. The way is mysterious because it takes you beyond your former understanding. The way is mysterious, but it is known. This enables you to follow it wholeheartedly as you learn to trust it, to accept it and to learn of its ways, its direction, its meaning and its purpose. You can only be wholehearted about something that represents your Ancient home from which you have come. You cannot be wholehearted about anything else, no matter how attached you may be to it, because to be wholehearted means to embrace something totally. This is only possible at the level of Knowledge.
Knowledge can only embrace Knowledge in the universe. It gives itself to everything else, but it is only bonded to that which represents the immortal and permanent relationships that you have in life and with life. It is towards this that your religious education will lead you. It is for…
ray_Colorado:  … this that your religious education will prepare you. If you recognize your need for this, then religious education is meant for you. And if it is meant for you, then you must recognize it, learn to accept it and find out what it means.” (What is Religious Education and who is it for?) http://www.newmessage….t-for
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Mathieu_France:, thanks for sharing the GC-LIU quote!
LaRaeUK:  Part of my preparation has been allowing Knowledge to make me strong enough to speak out about the intervention without fear….but still with discernment. Building the fortitude and strength to face the internal and the external challenges and risks of helping raise awareness of The Greater Community to a world that spends much of its time asleep.
manuel germany :):  Thanks Jim for sharing that Step. Once we have received Knowledge, we are able to express it in the world, its application is wisdom (to know when and under which circumstances), thus as the Messenger stated last week no teaching necessary (…we are seeding K.everywhere). From Knowledge we get guidance, protection and Purpose, we can meet the true relationships etc.. In simple terms for me is to know (or try) in every situation what to do or what to think and to detect influences which are detrimental to the human family… in order to be prepared and restrain myself from situations, places or people…
MaryL_Boulder:  @Darlene, Rudy: and yet I do not think it possible to truly know thyself without the relationships of Knowledge/higher purpose of other students of the New Message. You do your part in this honest appraisal and objectivity but it is in those relationships that you can see yourself in a larger perspective that is not possible alone and separate.
ellenrose-boulder:  yes Mathieu! ancient memories is part of what I was referring too, as well as memories of contact itself. Many people have already had contact, so preparing for worldwide contact and emergence into the greater community is greatly enhanced by reclaiming the memory of those experiences.
Alison_Boulder:  @Eron, thanks for those details of your observations. I think preparing can be interpreted to some as listening to every possible voice in the UFO community, collecting information as one would possessions, as if we have all the time in the world to lay this puzzle out and not make any conclusions. I think few people can yet see what is happening now, and I don’t blame them, with all of these voices. Again and again I remember that the voice for the NM preparation is a rare one.
Tom W UK:  Perhaps, part of the preparation involves attaining the clarity to be able to see our world as another expression of live – not particular or special in any way. We can see our trees, birds, plants and other humans as just as ‘alien’ as other life forms that have evolved in different climates; and ultimately see our world, and its inhabitants, as just as bizarre and wonderful as our neighbours will seem to us.
Asta_dk:  Sorry, the Me is Asta. i wrote Asta_dk as my name, but it does not show. I feel my preparation through STK will first be to discern an alien presence. I am quite sure, I did meet one once, a hybrid. I felt very small and unsure at the time because of the overwhelming sharpness of mind, and I felt and was very misplaced, so I got out of the situation rather quickly.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Greg, “…being able to recognize it in the moment…” Yes! Very important!!!!
Arthur:  Unity, conviction and the humbleness to follow something greater. All that which humanity severely lack.
Jangsun_Korea:  @Eron, thank you for sharing. Yes, it would be almost impossible to discern which one is true without this education.
Katia_France:  Thanks for that testimony, Eron. I agree that STK and the New Message are the only real preparation we have to what is coming.
Dariel_Boulder:  @James…Yes, “in unification we must be prepared to be deeply relational.” This SOH #91 says as much: “Development in the individual is always the ability to participate in relationship. If you will think of your own advancement in this way, you will recognize your true path. There have been many who have been turned away because they have failed to see this. Though their practices gave them great insight, they were not able to join the Greater Community, for they had not developed this ability.” I always find ‘relationship’–in the way of KN–to be so mysterious. Yet recently I realize that my relationships are stronger and my participation is stronger. I know that–even though I am not meant to participate with another–I want to see them develop in KN. I can feel love flowing to them and I know KN is with me.
Debbie_MI:  @Eron-I agree totally with “What I told Marshall was that he had something that no one else had and that was the path to knowledge”. I have also been struck by the level of confusion people seem to have about the Greater Community. I found out about the NM essentially through the Camelot video and the AOH and it was very refreshing to finally know the truth.
Rose, the Netherlands:  Thank you Eron: ” that IS the path to Knowledge.”
Rosa_UK:  @ Eron yes, “How can I distinguish the truth if there is any among all of this information?” and “Steps to Knowledge and the New Message are the only real preparations for encountering any aspect of the Greater Community. Education is key.”
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @ Mathieu thank you………If you were to meet another being from another world—a being who did not share your language or your appearance, a being who did not breathe your atmosphere, a being whose history was far different from your own, whose environment was very different from your own—you could still communicate with this being through Knowledge. You would understand each other’s intentions, and, if you were well cultivated, you could communicate to each other…(5:23PM)
Mathieu_France: … through the language of Knowledge, which is a language of impressions, images and signs.” Religion in the GC-LIU(5:23PM)
Joe_UK:  I see preparation for contact as requiring the continued development of a foundation of committed men and women of Knowledge, one person at a time, one step at a time, steadily changing the spiritual landscape of the world.

cray boulder:  @Will and all: I really must earn it every day, to do the work needed to be steadfast, clear, response-able to Knowledge, and always using every single day/happening to build strength in my 4 Pillars so that I am stable enough to not be way laid by the forces of cultural persuasion, the force of mental environment conditioning / influence the GC and events exert on humanity in the world.

To do the work advanced Students and the Messenger have had to do: I am every day chipping, carving, and walking away/tearing down stuff from the old life to clear the way, clear out space in my life and my mind, so that the New Life & 4 Pillars practice may take root and really grow.

It has struck me lately to begin to forgive the errors caused by thrashing in the Jungle of the mind and work to be immersed in the NMG revelation and School curriculum and to really feel gratitude and to be supportive of the NMG in the humble ways I can serve that which serves the deepest, most certain part of me. …

cray boulder:  … I would be hopeless without a NMG pathway and relationships to be with in my life.
manuel germany :):  @Betty_UK. Many thanks for sharing that experience with us.
Tonia_Denmark:  I must say that if there is more to the first question than what I so far know, besides the experiences I have had, only Knowledge can take things to the next level.
35048:  Preparing for contact is preparation in the mental environment. To learn to discern friend from foe, to recognize their intentions and motivations. To learn how to recognize any outside influence that is affecting us and to become strong enough to resist these influences. Enough people will need to become strong with Knowledge so that the balance may be tipped over from the forces of Dissonance to the forces of Good. It starts with the individual, but enough need to respond to be able to become a strong and free race in this beautiful and dangerous Greater Community of life. I pray for this.
inhee_Korea:  @MaryL thank you for “You do your part in this honest appraisal and objectivity but it is in those relationships that you can see yourself in a larger perspective that is not possible alone and separate.”
Shirley- Boulder:  @Cole YES True relationships are the goal and Knowledge is the means.
Mark – IL:  The first question is difficult to answer because how do we know when we have actually had contact? Considering the information provided from the hypnosis work of Dr. David Jacobs, the intervention will present itself as hybridized human-alien entities. How do we discern those entities from any other human? Even if their behavior is abusive or worse, how do we discern that as being different from past history of human behavior? That leaves me thinking at I simply must recognize and stand up against any and all abusive and manipulative behaviors. As I see it, preparation for that is no different for alien hybrids than it is for any human intent on deceiving me.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Martin_Australia, (8:25), excellent reference!
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @Martin thank you..Yet they too face great difficulties, but they must learn to see the situation with new eyes and with a new understanding. They must develop their perception and discernment. They must be able to learn about life in the Greater Community, to comprehend the meaning and the intent of the visitors. They must have the ability to see that the visitors are not angels and are not demons but are real sentient beings like themselves. They must move beyond the dichotomy of good and evil in order to see clearly and objectively.” ¬ Human Responses to the GC
50670:  Greetings Everyone from Istanbul..NNC
ray_Colorado:  “Your Revelation is coordinated with events in the world and with the development of others and with the needs of the human family this occurs beyond the realm of comprehension on your part you cannot even imagine it, it is so large.
That is why the preparation is so essential you see, for if your hour comes and you are not ready, well, you have missed the most important time of your life, the greatest opportunity of your life, the greatest turning point of your life. It will come it will reside with you and it will pass, and it may not come again for a very long time.” (The Threshold of Personal Revelation ) https://newknowledgeli…load/
Hyeonam_Korea:  NM is a solution of my life which was and is jungle. Thank you NM and Messenger.
LaRaeUK:  Beautifully expressed Joe. Yes, one person and step at a time.

Robert_Society:  Please continue your discussion around our first question. We would also like to open the discussion to the second question:

The Allies of Humanity and the New Message state that preparation for the Greater Community is centered around education, awareness and Knowledge. How would you begin to move forward in these areas?

Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Eron.
Douglas_St. Paul:  Groups and nations with inferior technology in this world have successfully resisted groups and nations with better technology. The Taliban, for all their flaws, is an instance of this.
Cole_Boulder:  @Mark – IL – yes – but in reading your reply, it strikes me that ET intelligence is 100x more sophisticated in the mental environment. And it occurs to me that I must know deception within myself to offset deception that is projected onto me….
Tonia_Denmark:  35048, indeed I agree. It must be known that it is possible to move a balance from dissonance to resonce. Thank you for your sharing.
Alison_Boulder:  @Mark, yes! Your quote – “I simply must recognize and stand up against any and all abusive and manipulative behaviors. As I see it, preparation for that is no different for alien hybrids than it is for any human intent on deceiving me.” I say the same thing. If I cannot figure out where the manipulation is coming from or who it is, isn’t it most important how I respond? And isn’t the response usually the same? – Take care of pillars, be discerning, apply the great teachings we have.
Carolyn_WA:  @Will and all: I was struck by Matthews comment. Which led me to this thought: As we are all members of the GCW, and manifest in physical form, one thing we share with all physically manifest beings is the notion of physical work, or tasks that need to be performed. I’ve been watching actors performing non verbal communication, and it is amazing what can be communicated beyond the boundaries of spoken or written language. Allowing Knowledge to inform this type of communication. This is how I envision communication in the GC, at the level of attempting shared work….
Paul_MA:  Cray- words of wisdom: “To do the work advanced Students and the Messenger have had to do: I am every day chipping, carving, and walking away/tearing down stuff from the old life to clear the way, clear out space in my life and my mind, so that the New Life & 4 Pillars practice may take root and really grow.”… i also value each day much more so as I feel the urgency of my time bank dwindling and the changing events on this planet escalating rapidly.
Kari_H_Finland:  Collecting information does not prepare you for the contact. I began to listen the channelings of the extraterrestrials and after a while I began to see human qualities in ETs. So much so that I began to interpret the signs of their visitations in my home as pranks, as good jokes on me. One must be very careful when projecting own ideas into the non-human universe. Without Knowledge this is only thing you can do.
Greg_UK:  @Ray One of my most impactful revelations,personally.
Maureen_Boulder:  These come to mind when I contemplate preparing for the GC:…..I’ve been working with the steps on Stillness, the power of stillness, and it is moving me to seek stillness more than ever. in Step 284: “Of all (evolving qualities of mind) you may contribute to the world, your stillness will have the greatest effect.” Also in Step 287: “In time, all of your self-doubt, uncertainty, fear, anxiety will wear away.” There is also a quote somewhere that it is important to be aware and vigilant of what is happening on the outside AND the inside.
Alexandra_NL:  @Cole: deeply resonating , becoming aware of the deceptions within ourselves first!
MaryL_Boulder:  @Mathieu: thanks for sharing that passage. I was and still am struck by those words: “language of Knowledge, which is a language of impressions, images and signs.” Religion in the GC-LIU. Always felt since the earlier period of being human and learning to speak that there was an another way to communicate…but I did not know how or where to find it.
David_Drimmel:  Thank you Justin California… Realizing the importance of connecting with our teachers and true home. Something I know little about yet. I wonder who is watching over me many times, and if there is a message for me to follow and whether I am truly listening or reacting to the mental environment. Reading the chapter “The Unseen Ones” in GCS has been helpful to me. http://www.newmessage….-ones
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Eron, yes thanks for sharing your impressions. I see that all the time as well.
manuel germany :):  @Jim B. Upstate NY, 9:24am. I resonate with that. It is about practicing, practicing, practicing. And here stillness and silence and the effective application of our mind is the way to God and Knowledge.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @ Robert Making the study of the Revelations, study of Steps to Knowledge my first priority in life.
Paul_MA:  Hyeonam_Korea: NM is a solution of my life which was and is jungle…. It is good to share your presence here today.
ray_Colorado:  “Make this the center point of your life and other things will begin to fall into place for you and you will find a source of strength and Knowledge that you could not find anywhere else. This is your ancient agreement with those who sent you into the world. This is the fulfillment of your mission in the world. This is the preparation for that mission beyond any other preparation you will ever need. Neglect this and you forfeit your fulfillment in this life and your obligation and agreement with those who sent you here. You do not know this with certainty yet but the Revelation will show you how to achieve this by clearing away everything else momentarily so that you can see in the brilliance of the illumination, your true nature and purpose for being in the world. This will be shown to you in illumination but you must still undergo the process of Revelation. You will come back to the world changed but not transformed.
You will still be your old self but with a new self beginning to…
ray_Colorado:  … emerge, it is this emergence that must be supported or you will fall back into the darkness of your imagination into your dark history, into confusion and oblivion.” (The Threshold Of Personal Revelation ) https://newknowledgeli…load/
Angela_PA:  @ Cole Yes, radical self honesty, though difficult is necessary to discern within and without. Thanks.
Douglas_St. Paul:  I confess to not realizing things arriving this fast, but I’m working on adjusting my perspective.
Arthur:  How come the first question doesn’t specify if you are asking about preparation on an individual level or on a planetary scale?
Jennie Netherlands:  I feel our group mind is accelerating our preparation and awareness of the Grater Community and it seems we all have in common experiences lately of a growing powerfull mind
MVS Society:  Without the revelation on the reality and spirituality of life in the Greater Community, how could anyone understand the meaning, nature and purpose of the Intervention or the meaning of Contact?
David_Drimmel:  Arthur, perhaps its both
82363:  We are all here for a purpose it is said, to full fill a calling, we have been given the gift STK, which we must grasp with both hands, with faith and trust in God – persevere because it is very tough.

cray boulder:  To quote another Student: I am more successful with no options, just do the Must today.

When I restrain the conditioned reaction, to feel the Must, it feels right. That contrast: What must I do.

Thank you @Robert and others for the quotes from last chat and the precious, mission-critical-for-the-future New Message from God. Greatly appreciate you all.

Jeffrey_Boulder:  “This journey requires phenomenal self-honesty.” GCS, ch. 5, “What Is Human Purpose?”
Maurice_Canada:  I guess I have a special view on the preparation! I am fortunate to be among a few experiencers who meets with other abductees, contactees, investigators who are world famous and authors who have written about their experiences and all of them report on the what seems to be a plan to extract from Mankind a crop of people to help the Aliens establish a program to network in the Greater Community. The Aliens are not straight forward as to their plans but somehow they get their “Pet Humans” to cooperate. About 50 years ago a woman was taken from her bed and returned every night until it wasn’t necessary to take her physically sometimes. This elderly woman Skyped from her hospital bed to our group and told us her life story before she passed. It was all verified by her family who were present in her hospital room and the people in our group who went through some of the same events she went through in their lives. All I can say for now is that she piloted organic like space crafts that…
Maurice_Canada:  … used a symbiont life form to propel the ship for the aliens. She had no freedom. Whenever they needed her they came and took her. The biggest ship she ever saw was 30 times bigger than our solar system and she said there were others bigger than that but never saw them and they were all inhabited by displaced aliens from other worlds looking for resources and a planet to inhabit. So my preparation with Knowledge has opened my heart and mind to what a wonderful thing the Messenger has brought into my life. I would say that whenever I am near a hybrid or if there is an alien space craft there comes an awareness within me sort of like a radar and I immediately feel my heightened senses kick in. I also do not invite these creatures to my presence and more or less protect my mind from them in a way that is difficult to explain yet Knowledge knows what I need to do and it becomes instinctively reactive. So, I feel I am preparing as I need or as I feel I am being educated by Knowledge.
Cameron_Canada(2):  STK – Becoming more attentive, unifying the individual, which unifies the community and, in turn, the world, and developing greater capacity. These things are important to me in my preparation.
Paul_MA:  Douglass–the Taliban is an example of the Native Peoples or Indigenous peoples having some advantages over the Intervening Forces….
Hyeonam_Korea:  “Greatly appreciate you all” Thank you Cray! Me too.
Diane S. New Mexico:  Yes Maureen, I find myself seeking stillness more and more in my day…
Tonia_Denmark:  Right on, Marshall. Everything without the revelation would be built on guessing.
Dariel_Boulder:  @Cole…Well put and so important. How self-honest can I be? How well do I know my weaknesses? This is so important. To the extent that I know my mind and strengthen it to develop the desire and capacity for KN–that’s how safe I am from the manipulations of the Intervention–and other in the M.E.
Tom_SanFrancisco:  good to see everyone realizing the importance of stillness and mental training. i have found that a good week to 10 days or more spent in the practice of silence is very beneficial at transcending plateaus in one’s development. unfortunately it is difficult for us to find the time/place/support for that. I am very interested in providing the place and support for people to retreat.
Maureen_Boulder:  @ 82363 YES – “grasp with two hands.” along with the other revelations and books of the New Message. We are being given a gift of the greatest importance and magnitude.
Greg_UK:  @Arthur good point. At a planetary level the Declaration of Human Sovereignty supported by every student of knowledge and the many pragmatic and sympathetic individuals who are not currently students is an essential preparation. But this stems from individuals discovering and studying the NM and Steps… So Advocacy is the key to planetary preparation.
Tonia_Denmark:  I guess….because….really, I think Ie might have missed something down the road lol
Carolyn_WA:  Thank you MVS. This makes me wonder. Might the Intervention have a greater purpose than to leverage human accomplishments and activities? One that is greater than even those who are conducting it? Is it perhaps meant to wake us from our insular habits, or some other more divine consequence?
Diane S. New Mexico:  I find entering stillness practice very beneficial for my preparation in the Greater Community…
Asta_dk:  I have problems with scrolling and really participate here, very apropos, because the computer freezes every so often. Bad weather and far to the mast.
Tonia_Denmark:  Happy to be with you here nonetheless, Asta.
James_Boulder:  Education, awareness, and Knowledge.
Education being the structural framework allowing for a greater awareness, objective awareness being the opening for Knowledge…
Moving forward… My studenthood allows for an ever shifting and expanding framework, my engagement with life fills this framework with awareness… the great need that then becomes evident calls for the gifts and guidance of Knowledge
Cameron_Canada(2):  @Arthur – Individual or universe, is it not ultimately the same preparation?
Asta_dk:  Hi Tonia! 
Ken_Oklahoma:  I feel that I must not only must become stronger with Knowledge, build strong relationships based on Knowledge, develop and maintain strong 4 pillars…..but I must do what I can to educate others about the Greater Community, the New Message and Allies of Humanity….time is short and there is so much to do.
Asta_dk:  Thank you 
Carolyn_WA:  Perhaps such speculations are not useful at this time. 
Douglas_St. Paul:  In American history, Red Cloud of the Oglala Sioux is known as an effective military commander against the US subjugation.
Tonia_Denmark:  ❤ back, Asta. : )
MVS Society:  Carolyn, we can use every event to serve a higher purpose, however that does not mean that every event is for a higher purpose. Be careful not to assign higher purpose or intention to mundane events. This can happen, but in my experience it is rare.
Mike_LF_CAL:  My step for the today… STK CT, Step 48, In The Greater Community, You Will Not Be Free .
Jens_Denmark:  I would move forward in these areas by studying the Steps and taking notice of the signs as mentioned in the “Great Waves of Change” book. And hello Asta and Tonia :).
Asta_dk:  8144-8345 nyt nummer, Tonia
50670:  Hello Asta…me as well,my working time. 
David_Drimmel:  MVS – Great question to be with. I have wondered this when I first started learning about TGC. I remember feeling this when I first listened to your interview with Carry Cassidy, “there is really something here to pay attention to.” What comes up for me immediately is that I can’t. I can’t see beyond the borders of this world, I cannot discern God’s will for humanity alone, and without the revelation I would be left to my ideas and the persuasions of the world and intervention. Considering all my research before learning about GCS and the Allies, the level of intervention and skill by the visitors left me feeling helpless. A true beginner here. And then again more questions arise. Why me? Why this time? Why is life this way, what is the point? What is the point of all this seeming madness and confusion? And it seems no matter where I look, no matter what questions arise, I’m always lead back to the revelations.
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you MVS! Without these revelations–given as part of the NMFG–there is no way to know what the Intervention and the GC can mean for us. It is not being presented anywhere else and certainly not with the spiritual preparation that is essential for our freedom and survival.
Carolyn_WA:  I see. Thank you Marshall.
Gina_Boulder:  I found Its worth looking into my life to what I’ve demonstrated thus far that will show how I “view preparation for contact”. I tried thinking about this…hmmm, how do I view this? -I asked myself. Then I looked into my life and considered, how am I engaging with my pillars right now? How am I engaging with life when it shows me something I don’t want to see? How do rise each day to meet the responsibilities in my life? How do I hold my practice when I come to it? How do I see my fellow human beings and the needs of advocacy and awareness?
I don’t want a mental projection of how I view this preparation, that does not match how I truly engage with this preparation.
Bruce in Cape Cod:  People need education, knowledge (both kinds), and awareness of what we are facing. Finding people open to discussing these things is difficult. I think the most receptive crowd to these concepts would be those who watch Ancient Alien episodes on the History Channel…
63004:  Hello everyone.
Cole_Boulder:  @Dariel – Thank you – “To the extent that I know my mind and strengthen it to develop the desire and capacity for KN–that’s how safe I am from the manipulations of the Intervention” ……to return to SoH… “You must learn of your weaknesses—all of them. Indeed, to discover any of them too late would be tragic.” ~Secret 149~
Greg_UK:  @David_Drimmel Thank you for sharing that – resonating deeply with your words
Debbie_MI:  @Dariel-Well said!
Joe_Delaware:  From my experience, to become educated about the Greater Community and the intervention requires multiple readings of the Allies of Humanity, Life in the Universe and any GC teaching in the New Message. An Allies study group was very helpful to me in the past too. Then, the opportunities to advocate and share the Allies and talk about human sovereignty to others at conferences enabled me to have a greater awareness because I was able to see certain aspects of the intervention directly.
David_Drimmel:  “Humanity, in all of its claimed brilliance and creativity, remains profoundly ignorant about the conditions of life beyond this world, the nature of interactions in this part of the universe and what all that really means for a struggling humanity.”
Alexandra_NL:  @Cray: And we MUST remember that those MUSTS also manifest in “small” ordinary things that need to be attended to. How can we carry out really challenging tasks and our higher purpose if we can’t even take care of the easier duties?
Maureen_Boulder:  Yes, advocacy! Join our advocacy group and work with us on Thursdays and during the week getting the word out, person to person, on Facebook, Twitter, Google +, YouTube and the other social media places. Every week with these efforts more people are finding out about the New Message. A very small group is making this happen. Imagine what we could do if the group were even larger. Contact Alison Bellinger who bravely and graciously is leading the advocacy charge.
Arthur:  @Cameron That depends. The world is far from facing an outside race on equal footing, still that is what I prepare for.
MVS Society:  To all, we must be careful not to “cross streams” between the Divine and the mundane. They are two very different realities which intersect only in certain ways and at certain times. People make this mistake all the time trying to unite and simplify things, unable to face complexity and to live with questions that they cannot answer.
Adria_work:  @Gina “I don’t want a mental projection” – I resonate strongly. I want a life, where I am being a responsible human, integral throughout my every area of life, involved, looking honestly at myself and everything around. A true engagement
Angela_PA:  @Gina good questions! thanks
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  As to the “how” in moving forward with regards to education, awareness and Knowledge – there is a quality of excitement and careful awareness when working on the education through reading and contemplation. The awareness work is done with uncompromising honesty and a willingness to have ones world turned upside down at any moment. The movement to Knowledge is the allowance of stillness and the constant attempting to let go of control with the searching mind.
Cole_Boulder:  @Gina, thank you! That is a very honest appraisal… “How do rise each day to meet the responsibilities in my life? How do I hold my practice when I come to it?”
Ken_Oklahoma:  @Maureen – Yes, I agree, “Imagine what we could do if the group were even larger. Contact Alison Bellinger who bravely and graciously is leading the advocacy charge.”
Mike_LF_CAL:  @MVS (8:41), I know without the revelation on the spirituality of life in the Greater Community I would be lost in endless confusion and contradictions. Thank God for you Marshall and to the AA for bringing this great truth into the world and for bringing it to me.
mellany UK:  “You must realize your calling is a calling to prepare, for you are not ready for a greater life. …….. And so the preparation becomes the emphasis; your honesty becomes the emphasis; your patience and your determination become the emphasis. For, you see, only Knowledge brings you to Knowledge.” ~ Courage and the Will to Prepare.
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you, Will. I can stress a lot about what I don’t know and haven’t understood, and not read. But….I live in the city and absolutely do not like it….so to begin to move out of the city, towards a greater community, centered around education, awareness and Knowledge, I would have to face the challenges. What do I need? Fx. I need to be around people of Knowledge. Why? And Where do you find them, would be the questions to ask myself. Spot the challenges, but move with Knowledge only. Recognize the needs. …
ray_Colorado:  @Cameron: “”There are Forces of Dissonance in the world. They oppose the unity of life. They oppose the evolution of life. They oppose the work of Knowledge. They oppose the reclamation of Knowledge. These forces are generated from both within the world and beyond the world. These forces are evil in the sense that they oppose the unity and evolution of life. They are disruptive. They seek to separate what must be joined, and they seek to join what must be separated. Therefore, it is accurate to say that there is evil in the world.” (Relationships & Higher Purpose, Chapter 8: The Problem of Evil & the Forces of Dissonance)
David_Drimmel:  Thank you Marshall, an important reminder. Living with questions can seem difficult, as my personal mind wants to find the answer right away. I will stay with this.
LaRaeUK:  Amen Jeffrey….thank you.
MVS Society:  At a time of Revelation, you seek for unique individuals who can respond, not crowds or nations of people. This is the next step.
David_Drimmel:  “We must be careful not to “cross streams” between the Divine and the mundane. They are two very different realities which intersect only in certain ways and at certain times. People make this mistake all the time trying to unite and simplify things, unable to face complexity and to live with questions that they cannot answer.” MVS
Carolyn_WA:  TNM does two things to my mind. First it stimulates it greatly. Then it breaks it apart and shakes all meaning to the core. Only then can I see through the clouds of my imagination to what I am meant to see. These are the rare moments that allow me access to the clear path.
Russell_Sask:  There comes a breaking point in the Mind of Humanity where it must remember it’s past. We have been visited, we are being visited, it is Time to answer the proverbial door to see who’s there. Shame on those who would continue to attempt to cover up the Truth. Whoa onto those who cannot accept this reality. God has not left us Alone. It is time to Awaken the God Within each. It starts with a simple moment in Silence to Ponder. Oddly how in order to awaken one must enter a dreamlike state of mind. I invite those students advanced enough to join in this next moment and those that follow Every Top of the Hour. Until then Nasi Novare Coram.
Mathieu_France:  Thank you, Marshall, this is so important.
Tuukka Finland:  thank you Marshall.
cray boulder:  Yeah, this you said @ Gina resonates: the self honesty without judgment, comparing, complaining / other: “I don’t want a mental projection of how I view this preparation, that does not match how I truly engage with this preparation.” Start where I am at, work to see and address weakness; its interesting that when I do the right thing, other truly right things are strengthened along the way. “Life is very fair, ” the NMG states.
Levy_Brazil:  Thanks, Marshall.
Bethne_UK:  I agree Gina Adria ,Angela Thankyou for this
Hyeonam_Korea:  “unique individuals ” are one of them who was found by Jangsun. Thank you Jangsun.
cray boulder:  Thank you very much Messenger Marshall and all here.
Hyeonam_Korea:  opps, one is me.
Betty_UK:  Thank you Marshall. We seek for individuals who can respond, as the responsibility lays to the individual.
Kari_H_Finland:  “At a time of Revelation, you seek for unique individuals who can respond, not crowds or nations of people. This is the next step.” Thank you Messenger for this clarification.
Will_Society:  The hour is once again upon us. Let’s pause in stillness together and be with all those who are also supporting true freedom throughout the universe.
Kelvin_Boulder:  @MVS, thank you. “We must be careful not to “cross streams”
50670:  Thank you @Marshall : ”At a time of Revelation, you seek for unique individuals who can respond, not crowds or nations of people. This is the next step.”
Diane S. New Mexico:  Thank You Marshall.
MVS Society:  It is necessary to get out of yourself to see another clearly, to see a situation clearly and to see the Intervention clearly. This is why we practice stillness and objectivity, so we can see without constantly falling back into ourselves and the jungle of the personal mind.
Ilhun_Switzerland:  Thank you, MVS. “At a time of Revelation, you seek for unique individuals who can respond, not crowds or nations of people. This is the next step.” To be a unique individuals, we need a courage, strength and wisdom. It’s from Knowledge.
Bruce in Cape Cod:  Awesome Russell
justin-calif-!:  Have to run now- Thanx again, all, for your strength and wisdom- there is a Burning Man decompression event in SF today- I will be there with “Big Green” giving out NM info- will post pics! (Anyone who can make it- I should be easy to find!)
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Marshall.
Alen India:  Thank you Marshall.
manuel germany :):  @mellany UK. thank you for sharing that quote. “…only Knowledge brings you to Knowledge.” “…your patience and your determination are the emphasis here…”
ellenrose-boulder:  certainly my Steps practice is core to my preparation yet I’ve noticed my practice is changing- shifting from being “ideal” to real and practical. I’ve always been a “good student” so I brought that mentality of study to my Steps practice and it served me for years. Now I notice I miss a lot of “top of the hour” hourlies and dont always pause when my watch beeps, but I notice that I am more able to be present and discerning in situations when I or others have strong preference. This feels like a vital aspect of preparation for emergence. this feels like a practical strength building in the mental environment.
Tonia_Denmark:  That’s exactly what I mean, Marshall. Thank you. It is easy to fall back into despair if unique individuals do not meet. But move with Knowledge, not cross streams.
Asta_dk:  Thank you, Marshall, needed as usual .
Hyeonam_Korea:  Thank you Justin.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Justin Thanks for your advocacy brother!
Robert_Society:  Thank you all for being here today and adding to this growing movement of truth, freedom, and Knowledge in the world. We all can support this effort and help amplify the power of the New Message and bear witness to the Messenger who has brought it. Please continue this discussion over the next hour together if you wish, and spend time reviewing the wisdom and challenges brought forward by all of us in the chat transcripts.http://www.newmessage….ripts Nasi Novare Coram
Ayesha_Society:  I’m happy to share that in the past week two new pillars have come on board to financially support the New Message. There are now 93 pillars and 50 friends within the Community of Givers. Thank you so much for your ongoing financial support.
To learn more about the Pillar and Friend program: http://www.newmessage….ssage

Alison_Boulder:  Let us share the needed preparation for contact. Here two ways you can help carry the Society’s efforts today:

Comment on, like, subscribe to the New Message Youtube channel and with videos like this one on the alien threat:
https://www.youtube.co…&t=2s

Share teachings from Marshall found on his Facebook page here, such as The Jungle: 
https://www.facebook.c…6992/

LaRaeUK:  Thank you Marshall…….it is so easy to fall back into the jungle of personality.
Patricia_Society:  @Rosa, Shrimayi -“….working with the mind to become someone with a strong mind….” This is a very important area of practice in our studenthood. To begin to examine tendencies and activities of our mind, and overtime to take it upon ourselves to order these tendencies and activities according to higher order, mid order, lower order, to increasingly develop command over these tendencies of mind, and to recognize and learn how to redirect our mind from lower order states as needed, to rest the mind intermittently instead of allowing the continual drain of our mental resources by these lower order expenditures , to develop a “dashboard” of readily accessible “active” practices to help navigate the huge amount of experience we are being exposed to, by utilizing the Great Practices, Seeing, Inner Listening, Stillness, Shielding the Mind. As the Revelation reminds us, there is a “hierarchy within”>>Body serves Mind, Mind serves Spirit. And so, there is active management of our bodies,…
Patricia_Society:  … which is a whole other great discipline. Someone who is both consciously engaged both in this inner and outer focus, with a Mind/Body increasingly directed Knowledge way is a force of awareness unto themselves and are making a great contribution to the growing “Knowledge Quotient” in the human family. As the Intervention periodically does it’s analysis(dip stick test) of the human mental environment, it will see the a kind of measurable fortitude and awareness rising in humanity. Not a good thing for those who are seeking to intervene for their own purposes…See “Working with the Mind. http://www.newmessage….mind. Thank you all for your practice and engagement with the New Message and for being here helping to build the Worldwide Community of the New Message, as a primary reservoir of support and stability for the New Message and for the human family it is here to serve.
Alison_Boulder:  Involve yourself with a community of Advocates ~
Advocacy Gatherings for the New Message are held on Uberconference.com/NewMessage every Thursday at both 7pm British Summer Time or 6:30pm Mountain Daylight time, to accommodate different time zones of our worldwide community. There is a lot in motion, from video, blogs, photo quotes and forum posts. Your assistance is needed to get this material out to those seeking a real preparation — and they are waiting for it!
Cole_Boulder:  @ellenrose – thank you for sharing your experience and perspective on hourlies..
ray_Colorado:  “You have your backs to the universe. You must face this. Shocking though it might seem at first, you must face this. Surely, you must think and consider reasonably that eventually humanity would have to deal with the reality of life in the universe, not merely as a scientific hypothesis or some future possibility but as a dramatic reality in the world today.” …. “This is why you must now begin to realize you live in a Greater Community of intelligent life, a universe full of countless races of beings. But you know nothing of this environment, nor how to interact with it, nor how to tell friend from foe, nor how to discern deception when it occurs, …” (The Importance of the Greater Community) http://www.newmessage….yhttp://www.newmessage.org/th…unity
LaRaeUK:  That is wonderful news Ayesha…..so grateful for all who support this vital Message.
Tonia_Denmark:  Congratulations to the Society and NM.
Greg_UK:  Farewell brothers and sisters
Joyanne:  Thank you Patricia and MVS, all
Tuukka Finland:  Thank you all! These chats are invaluable. Nasi Novare Coram
Samantha_SA:  I feel that preparation for the Greater Community is less about what is happening in the world, than what is happening within your inner life. Preparation for the Greater Community, for me is about a shift in perspective. I might never have a Greater Community encounter, but this does not stop me from developing a Greater Community perspective. It is about seeing yourself and your life from Heaven’s point of view – this is preparation for the Greater Community for me, and that is why education, awareness and Knowledge are so important. The education and awarenss are there to gender an acceptance within the individual and to highlight the need for Knowledge, to prompt one to get one’s life in order so that Knowledge can emerge and move through you – it is about the shift from the old to the new… From humanity’s isolation – to the Greater Community… From the life before Knowledge to the Life after Knowledge. I feel that is what the preparation is all about
David_Drimmel:  Thank you all. Patricia, I’m looking forward to reviewing this revelation.
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you too, Patricia. Great revelation Working with the Mind.
LaRaeUK:  Resonating with your experience Samantha.
Carol_Society:  We would like to remind you of these opportunities for our study of preparing for the Greater Community:
“The Great Challenge Awaiting Humanity”:
http://www.newmessage….aware
The Messenger Speaks: Being a Greater Community Person
https://www.youtube.co…2jhqUThe Messenger Interview: The Great Waves Prophecy and the Alien Intervention
https://www.youtube.co…tu.be

The Allies of Humanity Forum: http://alliesofhumanit…orum/

Campfire Chat Transcriptions: http://www.newmessage….ripts
Today’s Chat transcript will be posted at the end of our discussion.

manuel germany :):  @Ayesha_Society. Two new pillars to support the sacred endeavor to the world. Wonderful. Many thanks to these generous Beings 
ellenrose-boulder:  that’s beautifully put Samantha, thank you!
Rudy_Boulder:  Thank you, Samantha.
Dariel_Boulder:  Dear Patricia… Thank you so much for sharing this important information on how to work lovingly with our minds. I have a SOH #15 that I have been working with for some time and it speaks to your thoughts. “Regarding the issue of listening: many of you prepare to listen but give up too soon. The Teachers do not need preparation, but you need to find a way to hear, and this receptivity must be developed. It is retraining the mind to be in relationship.” It keeps me working on this most important relationship.
Cameron_Canada(2):  I quite often have questions that are not necessarily connected to the questions of day. Would it be appropriate to bring these items up in the second optional hour? I do not want to lead the conversation away from it’s focus.
Arthur:  That’s what we all do.
Kari_H_Finland:  @Samantha “It [the preparation] is about seeing yourself and your life from Heaven’s point of view” Yes!
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @MVS thank you something to be with…..To all, we must be careful not to “cross streams” between the Divine and the mundane. They are two very different realities which intersect only in certain ways and at certain times. People make this mistake all the time trying to unite and simplify things, unable to face complexity and to live with questions that they cannot answer.(5:52PM)
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Cameron_Canada, its a “campfire chat” lets hear it…
ray_Colorado:  “Within you, deep within you, beneath the surface of the mind, in a place you barely know, there is a fire, a spiritual fire. It is the source of your inspiration. It is the fire of Knowledge, the deeper mind within you—burning like a hearth; consuming your errors, your pain; purifying you; blessing you; guiding you. But you are far away from this hearth—living at the surface, the turbulent surface of your mind; living at the surface of the world, with all of its tragedies, inducements and misfortunes; busy caught up in things; stimulated but agitated, driven on by your life and your needs and your possessions and the requirements of others. You do not feel this fire though it is burning within you. As a creature of the earth, your heart will continue to beat; your body will work. But these things cannot produce the desire to create, the desire to establish true relationships, the desire for meaning and the search for meaning. These must come from the deeper incentive that lives within…
ray_Colorado:  … you, deep down within you. This comes from the fire. For the fire is the engine of your greater life.” (The Spiritual Fire ) https://newknowledgeli…load/
mellany UK:  Thank you, Marshall! Thank you everyone! Nasi Novare Coram.
Cole_Boulder:  @Patricia_Society – thank you!
cray boulder:  Resonate with what you said so much @ Patricia, thank you for speaking about redirecting the mind (to my understanding) and thus redirecting our lives, you say this so clearly so I can get it and begin to apply it. thank you! The revelation “Being Alone” speaks about managing our finite life force & the low order tendencies of mind, like endless worry, are a huge waste of precious limited life force The Voice states in that revelation.
Tonia_Denmark:  Balancing between hope and fear, just to be with Patricias eloquent words, would be for the man and woman of Knowledge, taking a middle ground. I liked that one very much. So I went, what is fear and what is hope? To know, to discern, to recognize and balance. Listening within. Making room for more Knowledge to enter.
Mathieu_France:  Thank you all! Nasi Novare Coram
Selma London:  One of the things I learnt on my travels around the world it that human beings are human beings, everywhere, within a range of personalities, cultures and traditions. Now it’ll be time to understand through encounters that physical life is physical life, within a range of life forms and races – we are all living beings, of all types. Within that we need to find those we can relate to and work with – who is compatible with us as individuals as well as with humanity as a whole.
Debbie_MI:  @Ayesha_Society-Thanks for sharing about two new pillars to support the NM and much gratitude to all here!
Cameron_Canada(2):  ok then if there are no objections…
Asta_dk:  Right, Alison. posts about the GC are still not so well received in Denmark, I’ll have to run, thanks for now everybody, looking forward to read this chat through
Reed_Society:  Thank you everyone, a lot of consonance shared today. We are seeing and knowing that our study and practice of the New Message, the process of unburdening, re-evaluation and training of the mind and our recognition of what our deep inner need is in light of all we have been through — these are keys to progressing in our preparation. Stay close to what will really move you forward. Stay close to the essential truth of your life at this time – what you know produce a feeling of rightness and a sense of vitality, through relationship, through decision making, through action. There is a coordination to move us all forward and bring us into position in a way we can’t understand at this time. But we can respond to this coordination at the ground-level of our life. Let’s keep moving where Knowledge and the Revelation are taking us and in time we will find ourselves a part of a worldwide community that is having an important and needed impact on the world.
Bonnie_California:  I mention the New Message in youtube video blogs. This is also where I mention that the “deep state” is being manipulated by other intervening races. The few responses have been that there are good aliens as well as bad ones. And the religious people tend to say, they are fallen angels, not aliens. Are there other people who write in the youtube blogs? I haven’t seen any mention of the New Message lately.
manuel germany :):  @Reed_Society. Beautifully summarized – thank you
ray_Colorado:  “The power God has given you is gracious but potent it is determined you cannot bargain with it you can only receive it and respond to its gifts and its direction as you navigate an increasingly difficult and conflicted world.
The Light of Revelation lives there in a place within you that you have forgotten in your journey in the world. In a place you are safe and have assurance of your future for this is the part of you that cannot be destroyed cannot be corrupted.
It is the Light of Hope for those who are oppressed it is the light of upliftment for those that are depressed it is the strength for those who seemingly have no power in the world. It is the gift of life for those who have acquired too much whose lives have gone stagnant amongst their positions. It is the resolution you see, God puts the answer in you before the questions have even risen. No matter what your predicament God has put the power that can take you out of the jungle of confusion, … and the fire burns, once it…
ray_Colorado:  … is found once it is recognized it cannot be forgotten.” (The Spiritual Fire) https://newknowledgeli…load/
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Bonnie, I sometimes write responses in the same manner as yourself. I see those types of responses all the time, its just blind faith and ignorance, just keep planting the seeds…
Angela_PA:  thank you all! Nasi Novare Coram
Ilhun_Switzerland:  Thank you, Reed. “Let’s keep moving where Knowledge and the Revelation are taking us and in time we will find ourselves a part of a worldwide community that is having an important and needed impact on the world.” Yes, I think it’s important.
Bonnie_California:  Thanks Mike, that is what I do. Someone is responding, or starting to wonder, at least.
MVS Society:  There is a time for contemplation and there is a time for seeing, knowing and taking action. Do not neglect one for the other. Both are necessary. Both are different from each other. Contemplation is to enable you to prepare to take wise action in the world. Wise action makes further contemplation meaningful and purposeful. Take time for contemplation, but always be ready to act. This takes real self confidence to practice. This is how self confidence is gained.
Joe_UK:  Thank you everyone, truly an honour to join with you all. Be well. NNC
Jennie Netherlands:  I am Grateful to connect with you all in this weekly chat. Thank you. Nasi Novare Coram
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @Patricia thank you ….the Great Practices, Seeing, Inner Listening, Stillness, Shielding the Mind. As the Revelation reminds us, there is a “hierarchy within”>>Body serves Mind, Mind serves Spirit. And so, there is active management of our bodies,…(6:04PM) This hierarchy within I just begin to experience that working with the mind is tide to working within this “hierarchy within” So much to explore so grateful to work on this.
Cameron_Canada(2):  Last week (I think it was after the second hour had passed) Joyanne and David were speaking if a ringing sound in the ears. I also experience this more and more often. It has a similar sound to the tones I described a few weeks ago while fishing with a friend except that those were audible to both of us whereas the ringing is internal. I had previously thought these sounds were merely a product of many years around loud equipment and tools and did not consider they may be something else. What is this if others are also hearing this?
MaryL_Boulder:  Thank you all.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Bonnie, are you new to the chat? I don’t recall seeing you before but I don’t know “everyone’s” call sign.
ray_Colorado:  “A time comes when silence is betrayal …” MLK, Jr
Hardev_Australia:  @Reed_Society, thank you for your advice and that we keep moving where Knowledge and the Revelation are taking us.
Robert_Society:  I find that no matter what others are saying against the truth, I must always keep speaking the truth and never stop. Speaking with stability, wisdom, humility and a gentleness that seems so much more powerful than the alternatives. Many are waiting to hear the truth and we have it in the NM and AOH. Let this permeate the Mental Environment and move in the world from many directions and sources.
Rose, the Netherlands:  Thank you, Ellenrose.
50670:  Thank you for clarification @Marshall: ”There is a time for contemplation and there is a time for seeing, knowing and taking action. Do not neglect one for the other. Both are necessary. Both are different from each other. Contemplation is to enable you to prepare to take wise action in the world. Wise action makes further contemplation meaningful and purposeful. Take time for contemplation, but always be ready to act. This takes real self confidence to practice. This is how self confidence is gained.”
Ilhun_Switzerland:  Thank you, MVS. “… Take time for contemplation, but always be ready to act…”
Jos_Netherlands:  Thank you Marshall for the reminder.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Thank you Marshall..
Tonia_Denmark:  “In the Greater Community, God is complete” – Greater Community Spirituality. That makes the essense for me. Not sure I know how much this involves, but as I learn about how much is not being taken in consideration if God is not listened to, how much is not foreseen, it would be impossible to live a sacred life.
Rose, the Netherlands:  Thank you Shrimayi.
Cole_Boulder:  @MVS thank you for that wisdom
Tom_SanFrancisco:  @ cameron, i often use the ringing as a focus point in meditation. I don’t know what it is, but look into the Shabd of the Sikh and guru Nanak and Radha Soami Satsang Beas
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Reed, yes, a good perspective and sound response. I’ll keep it in mind.
Rose, the Netherlands:  Thank you Patricia and thank you, Marshall.
Mike_LF_CAL:  Sorry that should have been @Robert
ray_Colorado:  “The world is chaotic; do not think everything serves a higher purpose do not think everything is divinely guided for God set in motion the biological geological and evolutionary forces at the beginning of time and these are working on their own.
Therefore change is unpredictable everything can change in a moment your mistakes or others mistakes can alter the course of your life, tragedy can occur; nothing is assured except the power of Knowledge within you.
When you come to realize this you will turn your head to Heaven and to the strength Heaven has given you. This will be the great turning point when you see that the only real security you have in this world is the power of Knowledge within you and the strengths of your relationships and the degree to which you have built the four pillars of your life.
Beyond this everything is ideas and speculation fantasy and belief, but belief has little power against the forces of change in the world and God has given you a greater strength to…
ray_Colorado:  … call upon in every avenue of your life.
When you realize that the substitutes for this power cannot assure your safety or success you will turn to the strength that Heaven has bestowed upon you.
A wisdom, a Presence, and a Fire.
You cannot imagine how important this is for you and how this can guide your decisions, free you from ambivalence and confusion that is so pervasive. This is why people have such strong and fixed beliefs; it is because underneath this they are afraid and confused and the more afraid and confused the more they attach themselves to their ideas or to their associations in life with dogged and stupid perseverance.
They cannot see beyond the prison house they created for themselves. They have locked themselves indoors, they cannot see the Sunrise they cannot see the mystery of their life.
This is not your fate.” (The Spiritual Fire) https://newknowledgeli…load/
Tonia_Denmark:  Marshall, thank you. Very important to know. Will be with this wisdom. : ”There is a time for contemplation and there is a time for seeing, knowing and taking action. Do not neglect one for the other. Both are necessary. Both are different from each other. Contemplation is to enable you to prepare to take wise action in the world. Wise action makes further contemplation meaningful and purposeful. Take time for contemplation, but always be ready to act. This takes real self confidence to practice. This is how self confidence is gained.”
Selma London:  Cameron, I’ve had a little ring in my ears from a young age, which doesn’t last long, and goes away when I ‘listen’ – i.e. for me it’s my Teachers nudging me. It’s not very load or unpleasant, but noticeable.
Bethne_UK:  Thank you all.
LaRaeUK:  Thank you for this Robert …..I particularly note the word gentleness…..it is so much more powerful than we realize.
inhee_Korea:  Thank you Marshall ” Take time for contemplation, but always be ready to act. This takes real self confidence to practice. This is how self confidence is gained.” I will keep your words in my mind.
Rudy_Boulder:  Very true, Robert. Thank you.
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you, Reed for the inspiration. Thank you, Ayesha for letting us know about the new contributors : )
Heidi_Germany:  Thank you all! NNC
ray_Colorado:  Cameron: Chalk it up to the “mystery” … do not be distracted.
Diane S. New Mexico:  Thank You Marshall… I see the the importance of contemplation in my daily preparation…
50670:  Thank you everyone. I’m not seeing my name on chat.. 
Ilhun_Switzerland:  Yes, Robert. We must always keep speaking the truth and never stop.
Cameron_Canada(2):  @ Selma – thank you for you input. If it is my teachers nudging me, they are there most of the time, almost any time I pay attention to it.
Diane S. New Mexico:  Thank You everyone, great to participate with you all!
Rose, the Netherlands:  Thank you, all. Nasi Novare Coram.
cray boulder:  Thank you Reed, Messenger Marshall, Patricia, Robert and all here.
Cameron_Canada(2):  good point Ray – I do not let it distract me often
Hyoyoung Kim:  Thank you marshall, and all of these precious people. NNC.
Kari_H_Finland:  “Think of yourself as living within a Greater Community of intelligent life, a Greater Community where life has evolved and where technology has accelerated, but a Greater Community with the limits of physical life that are still impinging on everyone who lives within the physical universe.” [Guidelines for Preparing for the Greater Community, 2008] Thank you, the citizens of the Greater Community. Nasi Novare Coram
Bruce in Cape Cod:  To change your number to a name, there is a gear symbol in the bottom right corner that will allow you to do it…
50670:  Thanks @Bruce …but Ican’t find the gear ..nothing at all…
Ellen_Society:  Thank you to all who have participated today in this important chat!
Bruce in Cape Cod:  It’s on the page where you entered the chat room. If you’re on a phone it’s more difficult…
Hardev_Australia:  Thank you all. NNC
Mariska_NL:  Thank you all! NNC
Hyeonam_Korea:  Thank you all sharing your precious experience and being with me, us! Love to all with big hug. NNC
Arthur:  @Cameron Your teachers do not want your attention most of the time. Doesn’t seem odd that they would use something as distracting as the sound you described as means to reach out to you?
50670:  Well this is first time happened to my computer @Bruce… I log in it’s okay but can’t find a way toentermy name…no gear  it’s okay maybe next week.
Mariska_NL:  I would think so too Arthur.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @50670, try closing your browser and restarting…
Tyyne_Society:  Thank you all for being here and sharing in this preparation. Knowledge is the greatest power in the universe.
50670:  any way I’m @nenette-istanbul
Mike_LF_CAL:  Oh Nenette!
ray_Colorado:  “it is accurate to say that there is evil in the world.” …. “”God wills that humanity become a free and united race in the Greater Community, but to achieve this, you must become united. You must become self-sufficient. And you must become extremely discerning and discreet regarding your relations and interactions with intelligent life in the Universe. You must gain the wisdom and experience to tell friend from foe, and to discern those who would use you for their own purposes.” The New Message from God
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you All. Nasi Novare Coram
50670:  Thanks @Mike: @Bruce 
LaRaeUK:  It is indeed Tyyne….
ray_Colorado:  Repeat: “You must gain the wisdom and experience to tell friend from foe, and to discern those who would use you for their own purposes.”
Jos_Netherlands:  Thank you all! See you next week. NNC
Bruce in Cape Cod:  ….it took me a couple of Saturdays to get the hang of it..
Carolyn_WA:  So welcome Nenette.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Thank you all! Nasi Novare Coram
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Robert for that inspiration! Yes…we must always seek the truth in the NM and live it!
Tonia_Denmark:  Hi Nenette, good thing you stated your named though 
Cameron_Canada(2):  @Arthur – I think you may be right. It does not feel like my teachers. Perhaps it is just some phenomenon that in itself is not so important.
ray_Colorado:  “”Knowledge is wise. It is practical. It is the antidote to your foolishness. It is the antidote to your servitude to others and to the notions that are prevalent in your cultures. This is the antidote to evil in the world.” The New Message on Life in the Universe (September 3, 2007)
50670:  Thanks everyone… I missed you all Knowledge Friends …I’m just toobusy working…house repair (work place) n cooking time 
Rosa_UK:  Thank you Patricia for “working with the mind to become someone with a strong mind…” a greater discipline is required for me to do this and a much finer point of practice …
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you everyone! A special thanks to MVS for his wisdom and life here in the world. Nasi Novare Coram
50670:  @Tonia 
ray_Colorado:  ‘”Evil has its own attractions, …. and many fall prey to this, even unknowingly. They behave in a civil manner because society demands it, but beneath they are full of grievance and the desire for revenge,
…. the attractions of darkness.” The Great Attraction (May 4, 2011)
Tonia_Denmark:  Ray, thats exactly a hard thing to come to know….. I mean if I cant find the way every day, it is easier to be compassionate with individuals calling for your attention and personal attending, but! if this is not to move somewhere really important, but to end up in front of the television or coffee master, this would be like “Kind killing Able”. Even if this is family.
ray_Colorado:  “”It is painful to be separated from that which you love beyond all things, and the only way to maintain this separation is to malign that which you love, to give it an evil intent and then to engender guilt within yourself. To feel and accept the power of God, evil and guilt must leave you. You must venture forth to explore that which is most natural. It is like breaking new ground and coming home all at once.” (Step 41 ) I am not afraid of the power of God. http://stepstoknowledg…d.htm
Virgie_near Seattle:  @Cameron: I’ve had so many flippin’ questions over the past … oh, however long I’ve been studying the Message, ha ha–and so many things, I feel like I would understand if I was stronger with KN … and in the meantime, I have to live with not knowing yet. So many things are just way beyond me. Perhaps there might be value in using even something little–like, “Am I just obsessing over this ringing in my ears? Or is it important?” as an exercise in just sitting with a question and not aggravating one’s mind or rushing to conclusions … ? Allowing uncertainty …
ray_Colorado:  “There will be those that you are waiting to meet who helped to activate your awareness of yourself at a deeper level. It is not just their ideas that will stimulate you, it is their presence it is something about them.
It is something about your engagement.
It stimulates an ancient memory within you and a reoccurring feeling that you are here to do something greater.
Do not worry that everyone around you do not seem to be interested in this or responding to this for this must happen at the level of the individual. This certain realization, this deeper awareness, this deeper nature is discovered on an individual basis.
You cannot go out and tell everyone about it hoping for any kind of acceptance or recognition.
This is what it means to be called from God. (The Reality of Your Spiritual Family) https://newknowledgeli…load/
Bruce in Cape Cod:  Thanks everyone! NNC
Douglas_St. Paul:  NNC All, we have work to do!
Ilhun_Switzerland:  Thank you Marshall, Patricia, Reed and the Society. Thank you all here and beyond. Nasi Novre Coram.
ray_Colorado:  “This is beyond human understanding.
But what is truest about you, what is the reality of your life, what has sent you into the world, is also beyond human understanding.
So do not expect others to recognize it, to accept it, to encourage it, to applaud it, for this will not be the case, and this is what matures you and, … requires years of trust and real faith. ” (The Reality of Your Spiritual Family) https://newknowledgeli…load/
ray_Colorado:  Retreana Carvedan Celton Iy: “Receive the Heart of God through your Spiritual Family that is joined about you.” Nasi Novare Coram

Cameron_Canada(2):  @ Virgie – For some reason I have been reading you name as Virgle in the past. I suppose it is an easy mistake. … I have not been obsessing over this but it comes up often enough to question, and by bringing it up, I can now put it back down and move on. Thank you all.
Virgie_near Seattle:  “Virgle”!! LOL. Thank you, that made me laugh. I have been mistaken for “Veggie,” too.
Jansett_KY:  “Your learning, if you choose to pursue it honestly, will be seemingly uncomfortable on many occasions. There seems to be universal agreement on that point. However, we will lessen the difficulties as much as possible. Yet your propensity to suffer and to examine yourself critically is not something that we can control. It is of great concern in the preparation of students, for they will see their errors as a weakness on their part. Often these errors are strengths in disguise. Yet the justification for these errors will not be of any service.” Secrets of Heaven, 148
Carolyn_WA:  Humbled by the great work that lies ahead of us. Grateful to the Messenger for the many teachings and blessings he passes on to us, and to all the relationships that this great endeavor engenders. Nasi Novare Coram.

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One Response to "Campfire Chat October 14, 2017"

  1. Selma Posted on October 15, 2017 at 2:58 pm

    Cameron, I offered this because it took me many decades to ‘hear’ the ringing/buzzing, even though it was there all along, and many more years before I recognised what it was. I find the internal ringing comforting, knowing what it is, and as I find that comfort, it instantly fades away. The feeling associated with it is almost like a cleaning of the ear. It never lasts long, does not impose itself, and responds to my attention.
    There are many different types of ringing to be discerned, of course, but this one is easily ignored or rationalised away – what a loss.
    I do also find it quite fascinating amongst those I know, that there is clearly a ringing to attention, sometimes almost desperate, which is increasingly drowned out with age, through constant noise and busyness, using TV in particular.
    I’m saying that you have to discover for yourself, and distinguish between something internally generated or externally imposed. Similarly with little physical prods and twitches, or light annoyances and internal reflexes, which can be useful tools to awaken you to the presence of assistance. Often the timing is quite essential here. For example, I often have a sharp intake of breath just as my meditation ends, regularly on the dot. Hence the use of a timer would be an unnecessary impediment. But I recognise that this is merely a beginning. There is an element of trust needed, but above all protection. As Steps explains, you need to be protected in order to open yourself to these things.

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