“To be one of the first to respond to the NMG takes courage, integrity, humility and determination. I honor all of you for this and pray that you will see this in yourself.”
“Each Step in Steps to Knowledge is a portal into your greater life, a gift of remembrance and clarification. Take each Step carefully and as deeply as you can. Here everyday, be it good or bad, becomes a day of preparation, reconnection and remembrance.”
“Through my long and mysterious preparation to become the Messenger I was being tested repeatedly as if They were saying, ‘Can he be patient and proceed? Can he hold what We have given him thus far without explanation or justification? Can he quell self-doubt without self-condemnation? Will he follow the Steps We have given him to follow through each threshold? Will he remain confident and determined when others called to him fail and…
Will_Society: … fall away?’”
LaRaeUK: Oh and you are a blessing as well Hyeonam……
Kristina FL: Thank you Will
Youngkyo_Korea: Hello everyone
Hyeonam_Korea: Sound good Justin. I have traveled two times there. Thank you your advocating to NM.
Susan_Malaysia: Thank you Will, for Marshall’s statements ..
Insuk_Korea: Hello everyone
Robert_Society: Welcome everyone
support: @Kristina_FL, Such a fundamental truth that escapes (d) me until the vigil but that needs to be re-enforced over and over again in our daily life. It’s been said so many times by MVS, not exact words >> “How many relationships can you carry…”
LaRaeUK: He has provided us such a strong example of how to follow The Steps and The Mystery….It is so humbling……
Heidi_Germany: Thank you Will, it is hard to be permanently tested over such a long time and in such an important role.
Cameron_Canada: Good morning from northern Manitoba
Inhee_Korea: Thank you Will.
Joyanne_Canada: Hello All, thank you for these Messenger’s Quotes Will.. How important to hold, to wait, to practice this. Returning to the Presence, to get comfortable in the waiting zone.
Alison_Boulder: Hi everyone
Shawn_Moose Jaw: A warm hello from Moose jaw
Mike_LF_CAL: I have a question to the Society, where are the 3 levels of STK defined? I think most of already know level 1 is one’s first time through STK but I have not found a definition of the other two levels. BTW, thanks for sharing The Presence Kelvin, relationship is so VERY important…
Martin_Australia: Hello, WWC! Mavran Mavran Conay Mavran
Tonia: Thank you Robert
Joyanne_Canada: hello to the Dutch group., It is so wonderful you are together and advocating today..thank you for your dedication
Jim B. Upstate NY: The Vigil deepened my awareness of the presence of the Messenger in the world and what it is he is here to do and serve. It really helped me become closer to the Presence within me and The Presence of God all around. It also helped me become more aware of what I need to focus on within myself and in my practice. To strengthen my courage and my humility and determination for the present and into the future. It was an experience that ran deep through me and will stay with me in the days, months and years to come. Nasi Novare Coram
Carolyn-CT: @mike-LR: or four?
Ayesha_Society: Here we are together in the afterglow of a very powerful 20-days together of the Steps to Knowledge vigil. Lets take a moment to recall the Presence that was felt during these holy days, in the sanctuary and from afar. In stillness and gratitude, lets be with Marshall and the Assembly, through which the receiving and giving of Steps to Knowledge has been made possible for the world.
Alisa_Russia: Greetings everyone. Wonderful to be here with youall.
Raoul_Australia: Hello everyone!
Lin_Boulder: greetings to WWC.
Shrimayi Conference: Greeting to all from Raymond,Rose ,Mona and I from the conference in the Netherlands
Jim B. Upstate NY: @Mike I believe there are 3 stages of Knowledge Mike. 1. The denial of Knowledge 2. The Cultivation of Knowledge and 3. The expression of Knowledge.
May_Norway: I practice this waiting myself, been more and more aware of what Marshall went through in his life before he received Steps to Knowledge and I am so grateful for he had manage to wait and be tested so often, Naci Novare Coram!
Serena_Montreal: Hello to everyone
Jim B. Upstate NY: Hope this helps Mike!
Carolyn-CT: Hi Shrimayi!
Alisa_Russia: @Mike – perhaps this is refering to two times through the 365 Steps and then the Continuation Training.
manuel germany :): @Shrimayi Conference: Daag!
Martin_Australia: Forgot to set my name. I’ll start again. Hello, WWC!
Tonia: Thank you, Ayesha. Thank you, Will. Very happy to be with you all here. Nnc
Hardev_Australia: Thank you Ayesha, my thoughts are with Marshall. NNC
David_VA: Hello All
Jim B. Upstate NY: Thank you Will and Ayesha!!
Alisa_Russia: @Martin, I still remember your wonderful hosting of one of the Vigil broadcasts. So vital and dynamic 
RaeHyung_Korea: Hello everyone. I’m happy to be here.
Joyanne_Canada: The Steps Vigil was so strengthening, so many gems of insights and wisdoms, to assist our journey up this mountain. I am deeply grateful for MVS and Patricia’s insights. The Testimonies were impactful in themselves. Thank you everyone who participated and shared. I know that I will be with these teachings for some time, for they have to be integrated and practiced to move me up this mountain. NNC
Raoul_Australia: Hey Martin! Good to hear you are back safely
Mike_LF_CAL: @Carolyn-CT, I’m only aware of 3 Levels, is there a 4th? @Alisa, that is what I “assume” as well, confirmation would leave no doubt…
Martin_Australia: Hello, Shrimayi, Rose, Raymond and Mona!
May_Norway: I ressonate with that @ Joyanne
Will_Society: Hello and welcome to the Campfire Chat, on week seven of the session on Knowledge and Spiritual Practice, three days after the conclusion of the Steps Vigil. Let’s begin with our first discussion question for today:
Since participating in the 2017 Steps Vigil, has your relationship with the New Message and/or the Messenger changed?
MaryL_Boulder: Hello everyone
Hardev_Australia: Hi Martin, welcome back
Debbie-MI: Hello everyone and thank you Will.
Martin_Australia: Thank you, Raoul. It was a smooth return.
Joyanne_Canada: so True May, his demonstration of waiting and holding really moves me to acquire this tool also. His question to us.. Who can do this?..Who can hold or wait?.. it helps me to wait to ask myself Can I wait like the Messenger did? has done, and continues to do?
Raoul_Australia: Good to hear Martin
Dariel_Boulder: @ Shrimayi and fellow Netherland students. Hope the conference is off to a good start. Sending you the strength of KN.
May_Norway: The seed has been planted @Joyanne and I feel stronger after the vigil!
Joyanne_Canada: Welcome to new students to this Chat.
Joyanne_Canada: Yes May
Mathieu-France: Hello everyone!
Jim B. Upstate NY: Yes! Hello and welcome to the new students here today!!
29047: Hello Everyone! Feels good to be here today.
Reed_Society: @Mike_LF are you referring to Marshall’s statement during the vigil of going through Steps once, twice, three times? Or are you referring to the upper levels of Steps?
LaRaeUK: Indeed Joyanne. This vigil has strengthened my relationship with The Messenger and solidified my resolve to exercise restraint, patience, determination and take my level of commitment to an entirely different level. Day by day life is demonstrating the need for Knowledge in this world and it’s need to have vessels in the world whom it can pass through to give the world what it truly needs.
Alio @ Texas: Testing 1,2,3,.. good day-night all. Back home and re-integrating life after a max capacity 7 days with the Vigil.
Betty_UK: Hello everyone
82213: Hello everyone!
Ana_Burrows,Bldr: @Will- every time there is a gathering of the WWC, the path towards a unified humanity becomes clearer. As the human family becomes frayed, a small but growing group of people are finding a new kind of unity.
Maureen_Boulder: Rose, Shrimayi, Mona, Jos and Raymond are at an event in the Netherlands promoting the New Message. They say it is going well.
Dariel_Boulder: @Will…My relationship with the Messenger and the NM has deepened and I feel it is entering a threshold of new recognition and power. All of us have been speaking of ‘becoming structural’ during the Vigil. In the ‘afterglow’ of this Vigil I think we will begin to experience what this means. I plan to make it so…
Matt_bzn: @Will – I see the incredible and dedicated work that is being done by everyone in Boulder to make events like The Vigil possible. So many people working so hard. I see that and feel a great sense of responsibility to strengthen my resolve, “hold up my end of the deal”, and continue to become a better and more committed student.
David_VA: Yes, my relationship with the New Message and the Messenger has changed. It has changed in several ways. After attending the Steps Vigil I felt a sense of connection and responsibility to the Messenger- a sense of dedication and duty that I feel is important.
May_Norway: I have my focus to climb my mountain, getting a wider vantagepoint to see the bigger picture that I am a part off and of all that sent me here
Carolyn-CT: “To what extent can we penetrate these steps, let alone practice?” -Patricia, Day 2
Ana_Burrows,Bldr: @Will, so as a result of the Vigil, I can more clearly see how the New Message will help humanity as a whole.
Joyanne_Canada: Yes LaRae, the need is great, I pray that in time we will be the vehicles of Knowledge we need to be. That we continue to climb this mountain with the gifts and tools the Vigil has given to us all.
LaRaeUK: Indeed Joyanne, we cannot fail.
Mathieu-France: “Through my long and mysterious preparation to become the Messenger I was being tested repeatedly as if They were saying, ‘Can he be patient and proceed? Can he hold what We have given him thus far without explanation or justification? Can he quell self-doubt without self-condemnation? Will he follow the Steps We have given him to follow through each threshold? Will he remain confident and determined when others called to him fail and fall away.” -that is good to hear.
Raoul_Australia: Thank you Will. Re. the question: “Since participating in the 2017 Steps Vigil, has your relationship with the New Message and/or the Messenger changed?”
I feel there is a sort of new beginning after the Vigil – new awareness of the miracle of living at this time, having the Messenegr speak to us, an awareness of where we are as a WWC and I also felt the huge importance of being a WWC where we recognise each other.
I feel there is a sort of new beginning after the Vigil – new awareness of the miracle of living at this time, having the Messenegr speak to us, an awareness of where we are as a WWC and I also felt the huge importance of being a WWC where we recognise each other.
Kelton_Calif: Hello Everyone! Reflecting upon the Vigil I feel it has helped me advance and move forward up The Mountain. Thank you to all who walk ahead encouraging us and inspiring us to keep climbing higher.
Tonia_Denmark: Thank you, Maureen. Good to know. I am in skype group with them and happy to hear it going well.
LaRaeUK: That’s great news Maureen. Well done Dutch students!
Alisa_Russia: In answer to the question about if my relationship to the Messenger and the New Message changed, I feel a new grounding, a new sense of myself as part of this vital undertaking, a new certainty that this is why I am here in the world now.
Shawn_Moose Jaw: I feel that “falling away” is not to happen, quite the opposite – I feel galvanized.
Hyeonam_Korea: Well said Raoul! Thank you I agree with you.
Martin_Australia: Thank you Alisa and Hardev
Joyanne_Canada: My Relationship to the Messenger, the Society and the Assembly is deepening because of the Vigil. I feel the sense of urgency to become or get high enough on the mountain to be out of Self Obsessions and into SERVICE. Keep practicing to move to a greater advantage point as I transverse these two realities
Virgie_near Seattle: Not sure if this exactly answers question, but when I finally found the time to watch the June 8 broadcast, the day after the Vigil ended, I was so moved by a sense of how deeply Marshall cares about each of our lives–how immensely he cares about what we do with the Message he’s brought to us. Will we be true to it or betray it? Will we stick with it or fall away as challenges arise? No threat of judgement from Marshall, but *such* *profound* *caring* … I have never cared about my own life that much.
Raoul_Australia: Thank you Hyeonam!
Alisa_Russia: @Ana – yes, I too feel that – the New Message is certainly here to help humanity rise to the next challenge in its evolution.
Jorge_Spain: @Mike, as far as I know (maybe I’m mistaken) the STK program has 5 levels plus the Continuation Training. Today, only level 1 and Continuation Training are available for students, as levels 2-5 have special requirements. But someone from the Society must know better about this.
Kristina_Boulder: I wanted to attend as many Vigil nights in person as possible, to be a witness to MVS and the Vigil, to hold this memory for the future. My relationship with STK deepened. All that’s been said about steps just confirmed that it’s my preparation and that I need to continue to go forward and deepen my relationship with it even more.
Shrimayi Conference: There are people who see the books Marshall on video and felt very moved and are very open in what they feel one woman was moved to tears immidiatly when she saw Marshall on screen and started to cry.
Alio @ Texas: I understand now why it all has to come in steps over time. Maximum experience is very life rattling and it is taking time to integrate it without risking loss of stability. I understand the need for patience more…. actually find my self sort of wishing it would slow down…. which is not usually like me.
Mike_LF_CAL: @Reed, in the Timeline of the history of the Message and the Messenger, (Kristina_FL recently posted this on F there were 5 different levels of Steps to Knowledge received over time, those are the levels I’m referring too. Level 1 being the original STK I’m sure; level 2 must be STK CT I believe, but the remaining 3 of the 5 I do not know of…yet.
there were 5 different levels of Steps to Knowledge received over time, those are the levels I’m referring too. Level 1 being the original STK I’m sure; level 2 must be STK CT I believe, but the remaining 3 of the 5 I do not know of…yet.Keiko_Ita: Hello everyone!
Joyanne_Canada: Wonderful Shrimayi, so inspiring
Shrimayi Conference: She said I know this man
Maureen_Boulder: @ Shrimayi – That gives me the chills. Thank you for sharing.
49880: Hello, Wendy from Albany NY joining for the first time
Raoul_Australia: that is amazing, Shrimayi
May_Norway: Wow @ Shrimayi, so beautiful
Susan_Malaysia: The demonstration from the Messenger and WWC has given me great strength after the 20 days Vigil.
LaRaeUK: Oh yes Virgie. His love for us is so profound…..I often break down in tears in gratitude when I feel his love. I must serve Him.
Carolyn-CT: Yes, Shrimayi. Rocgnition. Powerful.
Joyanne_Canada: Oh Wow Shrimayi, resonating right now with that.. moved to tears, For him to recognized within immediately is a very profound experience, and to witness it is profound also ..thank you for sharing..Perhaps another lost soul has been found, or has found the Messenger
Alisa_Russia: @Kristina – this has been my experience too. A deeper understanding, a new level of understanding.
Jeanne_Boulder: Welcome, Wendy from Albany NY
Raoul_Australia: Hello Wendy from AlbanyNY, welcome!
Hyeonam_Korea: I feel her feeling Shrimayi! Thank you sharing that.
manuel germany :): @Will, re.your 1st question I realized it is much less about us than about the New Message itself. And I found especially the Messenger´s teaching on Day 8, June 2,2017 about the importance of stability building and that we could become ungrounded and that we use the STK for our own edification and ego boosting very helpful
Joyanne_Canada: Hello Wendy, welcome
Betty_UK: Thanks for the update Shrimayi, we’re sending you strength and gratitude
Ayesha_Society: @Virgie- thank you for witnessing him, “such profound caring”. MVS has this innate, very real way of caring for the lives of others, humanity, this world, and tremendously for the NM. It shows in his day to day, this profound caring
Patrick van Hoove (NL): That is truly wonderful Shrimayi!
Jim B. Upstate NY: Hello Wendy!!! I am from Upstate Ny as well!
LaRaeUK: Oh Shrimayi, thank you for sharing that…..
Dariel_Boulder: Yes, Mathieu… The Messenger words of caution are very important–less we forget that it is possible to be ‘taken out’. Great practice and preparation is required here. From an old documentary, I’m reminded of the words, “Keep your eye on the prize.” I is all about KN and my relationship with KN.
DavidD_Mtl: The Vigil has been a great opportunity for realignment, I’m grateful for everyone who made this event possible.
Adria_work: @Will, regarding the change. As of recent I have been confused, struggling. The Messenger’s blessing struck me like a lightning illuminating the landscape, giving me strength again. The entire Vigil was a very grounding, powerful experience, a home coming.
Debbie-MI: This 2017 Steps Vigil was very meaningful to me. I feel like my relationship to the NM/Messenger has changed and has become deeper as a result of this Steps Vigil. It was a very powerful experience for me and I feel like I can take this experience going forward in application to my life as a student. This Steps vigil has lead to a deeper understanding and a whole new level of understanding.
Joyanne_Canada: Yes Yes Adria, grounding, a home coming, I felt is was a way forward for us students to grow.
Patricia_Society: @Ana Burrows. Bldr. Thank you. ” every time there is a gathering of the WWC, the path towards a unified humanity becomes clearer. As the human family becomes frayed, a small but growing group of people are finding a new kind of unity…”
Tamara~Boulder: With the evolution of my relationship with Knowledge, so greatly supported, clarified and strengthened by every Vigil and Encampment, this most recent Vigil established a certainty that I carry in each moment. For those moments that I am taken out of this certainty I can see clearly why and how to easily return. Also, my relationship with the Greater Community, the Allies, and the Intervention is undergoing a great shift. What this is I can not define, yet it is very present and moving me in certain ways.
Kristina FL: @Will… I feel that each Vigil is strengthening my connection to the Message and the Messenger and brings greater sense of responsibility and determination. Im grateful for this time to stop and be together and be with the Presence.
Martin_Australia: Hello, Wendy. Welcome to the World Wide Community
Ana_Burrows,Bldr: @Alisa – yes of course, the NM states that as its intention. I meant that even in the face of the current degree of conflict in the world now because of the worldwide gathering at the Vigil, there was another force exerted into the mental environment of the world. People coming together, holding vigil for the emergence of Knowledge (as Reed said). It became less theoretical and more tangible.
Mathieu-France: I found very inspiring to have the other languages acknowledge and represented during this Vigil. The New Message is such an example of how people from different countries, cultures, languages can unite through the Way of Knowledge and service to the world. Looking at the world where signs of human unity are very rare, I have to remind myself that this worldwide community really is a demonstration that this unity is possible, concrete and real, if the true basis for it are in place. It feels that one of our collective responsibility is to maintain that effort and demonstration for it to contaminate the world.
Tonia_Denmark: Will, I feel a deeper connection with The Messenger after the Vigil. It is on a deeper spiritual level, where not just signs in the world affirms a connection but also on the inside wether while meditating or practicing something. The signs varies and come in different forms and expression, but often it makes me very attentive to what is going on.
Alio @ Texas: For anyone who has not yet created a name for yourself for this chat, you may do so if you choose. If you click on the gear on the brown bar at the bottom, you can change from a number….. otherwise, where you see “Me”, we are seeing a number. It’s lovely that you are all becoming real people in my life…. a huge bonus of going to the vigil.
Martin_Australia: That to hear, Shrimayi.
LaRaeUK: Yes, Mathieu….beautifully expressed. TNM strikes a universal chord and our differences melt away. United in Knowledge.
Adria_work: @Mathieu, listening to Steps in other languages was a powerfully touching experience to me. There was power and intention behind those words.
Joyanne_Canada: @Kristina FL, so true the greater sense of responsibility and determination
Cole_Boulder: I was very much struck by the feeling of limitation and accepting my current capacity. I can only be where I am. So this theme of patience has been important. There are things I know which I must wait for and in the meantime there is a lot of work to do – essential work, without which I will not be ready to take on greater responsibility. The Vigil has strengthened my resolve and brought into focus the bigger picture of what we are doing here together.
Alison_Boulder: @Alio, “It’s lovely that you are all becoming real people in my life” — yeah, that’s it. That matters.
JeffreyAdler_Boulder: I concur, Mathieu. And for me, listening to Steps in other languages made real Steps in the Greater Community context, too.
69892: Hearing the STK read in multiple languages, feels like a new Threshold has been passed…that we are at a new stage of community.
Kristina_Boulder: I really appreciated MVS emphasizing importance of stability and 4 pillars, especially work pillar and Dar saying about herself that she was a platform for the NM work. This saved me from side journey of trying to develop more sensitivity that was developing in my head. This way my energy will be focused on whats really important and whats really needs to become stronger in my life, like 4 pillars. So, thank you MVS and Darlene for mentioning that.
Mike_LF_CAL: @Will, I feel re-energized, re-focused overall re-calibrated by Marshall’s sharing and his challenges that he offered to us throughout the Vigil. I was greatly impacted by the “process” he gave us on June 10.
Keiko_Ita: @ana, More tangible and felt in practice…dairy application.
Joyanne_Canada: I feel that too Cole, limited in my current capacity, yet I feel the Vigil holds many keys to my movement beyond my capacity.. re listening to them, acknowledging where I am at this current time and the pressing need to mature as a student of Knowledge, and the NM. Who can wait, and I wait like the Messenger did?
Hardev_Australia: Thank you Matthew for your insight into the WWC gathering for Steps Vigil as an example of a united humanity. It shows how Knowledge can unite all peoples of the world.
MarkBerger_Boulder: @Mathieu – Yes, I was sometimes moved to inexplicable tears, hearing Steps in another language. Perhaps it was the realization that the Steps are actively moving AROUND the world, spreading their tremendous wisdom and compassion one person at a time.
Maureen_Boulder: I didn’t think it was possible to feel closer to Marshall and more committed, but I do.
manuel germany :): @Mathieu… fully agree with you. It is the different “colours” and expressions of the languages and cultures which makes this endeauvor more powerful as it is going to inspire many more hearts in the world to learn and to receive the New Message…
Hardev_Australia: I mean Mathieu
LaRaeUK: The Vigil has reminded me to keep my life open, work on the pillars….do NOT give my life away to people places and things. Let the pressure build. Hold it. Be with it. Stop wasting energy on the insignificant.
Kristina FL: yes Jeffrey, it was very moving to hear Steps in many languages, even not understanding that language , i can feel the power moving through it.
Martin_Australia: OOh, the Greater Community context, Jeffrey, nice
Debbie-MI: @LaRae and Virgie-that has been my experience too. Thanks for sharing.
Cole_Boulder: @LaRae – yes, I feel this too, thank you for articulating it.
Douglas_St. Paul: There are relatively few written works which are translated into other languages. The progress in translation is a testimony to the potency of the New Message in touching hearts across languages.
Ayesha_Society: @Kristina Boulder: yes the grounded and the often mundane work of our 4 pillars is where the real work is waiting for us, for the stability we need to be the platform as Darlene and others have talked about and has demonstrated themselves. This is the 80/20 rule that is sobering
LaRaeUK: Wow Maureen…..that is a powerful statement. Thank you for your testimony. I was so moved and inspired by your years of practice and dedication.
Tamara~Boulder: @Ana….As the Allies so clearly convey, it is our ability to grow and cultivate our power in the mental environment that will offer us the needed skill to resist the Intervention. With Steps to Knowledge as a life practice, combined with Living the Way of Knowledge (4 pillar work), we are cultivating this capacity to assist humanity in its needed unity.
Val_Boulder: The New Message, my relationship with the Messenger, are integrated now, into the foundation for my life.
69892: This Vigil has been a great reminder that the Directives that I have been given, that I must complete are both obstacles and part of my pathway to preparation..That I am hindered into greater participation till I pass through these personal thresholds, that my Tests must be completed before I am able to continue my Training and Preparation in the NMG>…..NNC.
Reed_Society: @Virgie, thank you, yes, this has struck me as well in this Vigil: seeing Marshall speak night after night I can feel the regard, the recognition and the care he has for each of us who has gathered in this early community. The Messenger communicates this power of encouragement and confirmation of our worthiness to receive this teaching, this pathway and this challenge and this conferral of responsibility to be true to ourselves, because we are known by Marshall and he asks us only to return to who we really are, nothing more, nothing less. I feel this will move beyond his own life, this encouragement, this confirmation, this conferral, through the lives and expression of those who knew him. To carry forward the memory and the still-living reality that the Assembly sent one of their own into the world to be a Messenger for our world and he knew us for who we really are, he confirmed the truth about our lives and called us ever to return to that reality. That is a force of recognition…
Reed_Society: … and love that will keep moving in the world deep into the future, but it needs us as recipients, as those who experienced this and can express it in the future.
Jim B. Upstate NY: Indeed…hearing the NM read in other languages developed a closeness with Marshall, Society, other students and closer to the Great Coordination taking place all around us. Words cannot explain this yet the feeling is there. I can feel it now more and more!
Mathieu-France: @Adria: yes, and such a concrete demonstration that the New Message is not any kind of local cultural phenomenon. It bridges languages and cultures, differences in various forms. Even our testimonies, coming from all around the world: who can say “oh, this is a German testimony” or “that one is from a Korean”? It seems to me our experience as students has not that much to do with our cultural background. We’re all humans, and perhaps, as we proceed further on the Way of Knowledge, beyond what we would call human. I has a step recently stating: “You will be venturing deeper into life, beyond human assumptions, beyond human beliefs and beyond human conventions.”
jeanine_Society: @Mathieu – yes I agree – Marshall is a role model for us and an inspiration to persevere – a beacon of light shining the way for all of us…
Shane – New Zealand: @Will, re “has your relationship with the New Message and/or the Messenger changed?” My relationship with the New Message is a wonderful mystery, since the vigil I can only really describe it as a deepening relationship of mutual love. My relationship with Marshall is a powerful mystery to me, I am not ready to try and define it.
David_VA: At the Vigil I gained an insight into the “nuts and bolts” functioning of the Society, which gave me compassion to see simple people working everyday for this cause and mission. I see that in time I may be able to assist them.
Tamara~Boulder: @Ayesha…I sorely neglected the fact that the past two years of my life have been dedicated to strengthening my four pillars, thus building a final wall in the parabola that is bringing my life into focus.
Shawn_Moose Jaw: Something about hearing the testimonials – deepening the connection to the other students seemed to deepen the connection to the Messenger… very mysterious.
Kelvin_Boulder: While observing from the AV booth during the vigil, I had a realization. The work we are all doing, what we are becoming as we are maturing on this journey. The experience of knowing we are not doing this just for us alone, but for others. There is no such thing as perfection, but there is “perfect enough” to do what works. The reward for all the work are the moments in between, when we become invisible and transparent, in the background, the satisfaction of simple service.
Debbie-MI: @Jim B-I felt this as well. it is truly remarkable and inspiring.
Raoul_Australia: During the Vigil Marshall’s advice addressed so many aspects that are so current and actual in my life today, as if he knew I needed that specific advice.
Dariel_Boulder: @Alio…Yes, I was struck again and again for the need to proceed, then stabilize, proceed then… Just reading the chapter on GC in GCS and had this reinforced. Humanity needs the challenge of the Intervention so we will step up and work hard to deal with the great challenges facing us. But we are soft and weak and must step incrementally toward our goal. I am so aware of my lack of stability and yet, I know this recognition is most important to beginning the process with a larger understanding.
Jeanne_Boulder: I agree Kelvin
Kristina_Boulder: @Kelvin, well said
Hyeonam_Korea: I want to say again to AV team for Steps Vigil.
LaRaeUK: Kelvin we are all so grateful for your service to this vigil and to all those behind the scenes who work so hard to bring this vital Message to the world. Thank you….
Joyanne_Canada: What I recognized during the Vigil was that MVS and Patricia were not just speaking to our intellect but were calling to Knowledge within us, to come forward and to hear his calling to us, to engage us at a deeper level. The reminder to Return, keep Returning was powerful for me. This Returning will take me up the mountain.
jeanine_Society: @Raoul – especially true when Marshall speaks to us looking directly into the camera – feels as if he is speaking to each of us personally…
Mathieu-France: @Jeanine: “Marshall is a role model for us and an inspiration to persevere – a beacon of light shining the way for all of us…” -oh yes.
Dariel_Boulder: @Kelvin…Thank you so much for your observations–and your simple service.
Alison_Boulder: At the 2016 Steps Vigil MVS had shared a great deal about humility- what it is and is not. This year I observed humble and hardworking students moving, working and speaking around me. “Amazing things can be done by very basic people.” (MVS)
May_Norway: That is so true @Mathieu !
Joyanne_Canada: very true Kelvin thank you
DavidD_Mtl: Thank you Kelvin
Selma London: “For you must take control of your life, guided by Knowledge.” The Presence
Recently I took a breath which felt like my first breath – it felt like I was really breathing in for the first time. During my Steps practice I have also at times felt my Teachers breathing with me, very fresh and pure air – as Reed says, like pure oxygen: “A pure oxygen environment.” So natural and really true to life. Feeling the Presence for me is tasting and smelling this pure air – really sensing it. After the Vigil, I’m beginning to have a feeling of what it would be like if we succeed.
Recently I took a breath which felt like my first breath – it felt like I was really breathing in for the first time. During my Steps practice I have also at times felt my Teachers breathing with me, very fresh and pure air – as Reed says, like pure oxygen: “A pure oxygen environment.” So natural and really true to life. Feeling the Presence for me is tasting and smelling this pure air – really sensing it. After the Vigil, I’m beginning to have a feeling of what it would be like if we succeed.
Kristina FL: Raoul, Jeanine… He does
May_Norway: Thank you Kelvin
Raoul_Australia: @Jeanine, yes, it feels like that, and it is an amazing things for ones far away
Ginny_Dallas: @ Kelvin – Yes, “the satisfaction of simple service” has been part of my experience and brings immense joy to me.
Alisa_Russia: @jeanine – yes, I feel that too. It is so engaging and powerful.
69892: One question arose in my mind……Are one’s Teachers the same as one’s Spiritual Family?
Darlene_Society: @Selma, yes, we must hold this vision! “After the Vigil, I’m beginning to have a feeling of what it would be like if we succeed.
Darlene_Society: And what it will take to realize it!
LaRaeUK: Something that became clear to me was the serenity and depth of those students who have been with Marshall and doing Steps for so many, many years. The example their lives are to the rest of us. The service and the dedication that those of us who are lower down the mountain will need to emulate in order to make sure this Message is in the world for centuries to come. It is up to all of us.
Cameron_Canada: Yes the testimonials were moving. It was comforting to see some of the faces of our group. The images, faces, eyes, and bringing their stories together with the visual, well it was like music or a concert.
Debbie-MI: @jeanine-This was also what made the Vigil so powerful for me-very true and very moving.
Maureen_Boulder: I feel so awed each year by the time, energy, dedication, love and effort that Marshall, Patricia and Reed put into presenting the Vigils in a new way that deepens us every time. So thoughtful and thought filled, helping us to see things in yet one more way.
Mathieu-France: @Kelvin: yes, when our personal vehicle becomes integrated, a vehicle for a greater reality. These are important experiences, reference experiences, to picture how it feels to be in that alignment, and how good the personal self feels when it is in that alignment, no longer trying to be a perfect god, but simply a good servant.
Betty_UK: @Ayesha & Will, I will keeping in mind the bigger picture that we are here to serve the world, the scope of work that needs doing internally and externally, that’s like an anchor to me ‘to know what must be done and be prepared to do what is necessary, in some way this has strengthened me. Also what Marshall mentioned ‘What really matters?’
Alisa_Russia: @Selma @Darlene – I would say “When we succeed.”
Ken_Oklahoma: @Joyanne – I felt this also, “MVS and Patricia were not just speaking to our intellect but were calling to Knowledge within us, to come forward and to hear his calling to us, to engage us at a deeper level. The reminder to Return, keep Returning”.
76608: Nasi Novare Coram
Alio @ Texas: Dariel, The repeating cycle of getting filled to “busting out” and letting that bleed out into life before the next injection speaks to Marshall’s comments on “It would kill you or drive you insant …. tooo destabilizing to get too much at once” Knowledge has such grace. I am so impatient. Knowledge is so wise. I would blow my self up and at times in the past, probably could have been commmitted to the loonie bin for having gone too fast out windows and doors that were meant to remain closed for the time being.
Ken_Oklahoma: I felt a calling to continue, to not give up, never give up, for each of us do our small but important part.
Joyanne_Canada: Me too Ken,
Shirley-Boulder: Yes, Ken exactly!
MarkBerger_Boulder: @Ken – “My secret is that I never give up.” – MVS
Alisa_Russia: We are tilling the ground for generations to come. We may not see the fruits of our labor in this lifetime, but it will be felt down through the ages.
Joyanne_Canada: @Mark, that one statement has its own power to carry us forward.
Shawn_Moose Jaw: Amen Alisa.
Dariel_Boulder: Thank you so much, Reed. Yes, he, “and he knew us for who we really are, he confirmed the truth about our lives and called us ever to return to that reality.” How can I truly know myself without this confirmation of one who sees me from a much higher place on the mountain. I am so grateful for the many, many gifts that you have given us dear Messenger. And I am responsible to give this on.
Patricia_Society: @Mike LF, Jorge – Only Level One and Continuation Training are available…Levels 2, Relationships and Knowledge and Level 3, Work and Knowledge, will be made available at some point. We are currently preparing Level 2, and will bring it forward when ready, but currently there are several books ahead of it that we must produced, and we must proceed with the rendering of the enormous One Book project – a compilation of up to 7 Volumes, 40 + books…if we are able in the lifetime of the Messenger. Steps Level One and the Continuation training call for a greater involvement and depth of practice and realization from us all. How will we do this?…What approaches must we take in our engagement with this enormously powerful preparation…..? How do we “order our studenthood” in such a fashion that this new reality of Knowledge may take shape in our lives and in the world??? And then what of service…skills…resources…..that are needed to facilitate the movement of the New Message into…
Patricia_Society: … the world beyond our life times?
Ginny_Dallas: @ Maureen, thank you for this – “I feel so awed each year by the time, energy, dedication, love and effort that Marshall, Patricia and Reed put into presenting the Vigils in a new way that deepens us every time. So thoughtful and thought filled, helping us to see things in yet one more way.” The call beckoning, ‘come, we have further to go, come…’
JeffreyAdler_Boulder: Great reminder Alisa, thank you.
MaryL_Boulder: All of your words resonate with me so I cannot address you by name but I felt this Vigil’s power to be both a deepening (due to the efforts of Marshall, Patricia & Reed as well as all who shared their testimonies) as well an expansion of connections and relationships from those who traveled to be there and those online. Reading of Steps in different languages was very moving to have the words of Steps (the Will of God) spoken in each languages. We can only understand our own language but hearing those languages made me feel that it is possible to be united through the New Message beginning with Steps to Knowledge. Such gratitude I feel to be alive during the time of revelation.
Jim B. Upstate NY: Hearing the STK read in different languages also helped me see more deeply that we live in a non human universe and even a non human world. Slowly, when I take this in it moves me closer to the bigger picture of God’s Great plan just a little. Enough to know and feel we are for a purpose which is a part of us deep down. A part we don’t experience often but in my practice I am experiencing it gradually…because it is there for me to experience if I seek it and give myself to it! Deep love and devotion I feel for the Messenger, his family and all the others that have given of themselves to keep this gift of Knowledge alive in the world!
Tamara~Boulder: @Ken….the beautiful workings of coming to Knowledge, to the Presence that is with us everyday, is that we, at least I and many others, can never go back to our previous ways of living.
Kari_H_Finland: “So the Messenger calls those to gather with him at certain times so that he can impart the Presence and the Remembrance and so that you, who feel so called, can recognize you are not alone and that relationships of true meaning are there, not just in one person only, but all around you, as you gather in the Circle of the Messenger. This is all part of the Remembrance, you see” Thank you Messenger for Remembrance. Now I understand what I experienced in Encampment and how deep this experience was. This experience of home coming, this experience of gathering with people of honesty and simplicity people, this experience of joining something not of this world.
Kelton_Calif: @ Reed @ Ana, The force of recognizing Marshall, the force of being recognized by Marshall and the force of recognizing ourselves. Is a Great force in the world.
Carolyn-CT: TY Patricia for clarifying what that means (Step levels)…
Jorge_Spain: Thank you @Patricia
Jansett_Boulder: Following this chat today, I feel a similar to what MaryL stated. Not having to look at the names of each post but feeling the resonance of each one as though only one person were speaking here. A whisper of the “shared identity” mentioned in Secrets. Thank you, All.
Patricia_Society: @ all Studenthood is important but to what end? After Vigil Night 16 or so after Broadcast we, in the room, entered into a very reflective conversation, especially after the process Marshall had given us to present that night about Knowledge and spiritual experience……and we all had time to reflect and some to comment…,
Tonia_Denmark: Ken, I hear you. I feel an inner need for getting more in touch with the pace, the curriculum, as in looking ahead and see the important days, the most important revelation to be with and so forth.
Carolyn-CT: Day 2 was also very powerful, Will. Patricia and Marshall spelling out practice. I find myself listening/watching over and over, trying not to miss anything.
David_Drimmel: @Patricia I didn’t know it was that big. I can see ever more how much work is at hand, and must you need others to assist in this great undertaking to bring the new message to others.
Tamara~Boulder: Thank you Kari! My first expereince of entering this community in the physical, Encampment 2014, had the same feeling…a home coming, the people I had been searching for all my life, those whom I just fit with and can join. I continue to come, to receive, to give.
Patricia_Society: To what end does spiritual practice, studenthood and our acknowledgement and realization of our experiences of Knowledge potentially contribute….
Shane – New Zealand: The influence of the Intervention at this time is a pressing concern. The signs that I am seeing are indicative of some crazy times. Society is showing very obvious signs of ET influence in the mental environment that seem to be worsening by the day. Never has it seemed more important than right now for people to speak out against the intervention and promote human sovereignty. If we lose sovereignty everything is lost. The UFO community is infested and the program to disable peoples discernment has hit another level with the latest negativity narrative. Excuse my rant, I am just really concerned with what I see and with what I dont see.. And I want to see more resistance not a subtle resistance. but a proud courageous resistance. The time is now.
Patricia_Society: “To what end do we do this?”
As was posed a couple of nights ago after Broadcast to all of us present..What’s important:
1. We search our experience for the evidence of Knowledge and realization. We note this, we interact with this, and we develop in keeping with this original, ongoing experience.
2. We build 4 strong Pillars and attend to them diligently as the weight and emphasis of life shifts for us over time.
3. We gather our skills and with them, find our place of service either to the New Message or to the world.
4. Then, we hold for 30-40 years.
All the while the New Message slowly moves into the world over our collective heads and backs, on the way to find those in the world who must find it.
So we just fold in. Individual development should not take precedence or be neglected either.
Our progress as individual participants will proceed at its own pace, but the Revelation is another matter entirely. It has its timing…it has many people and places to reach now…
Patricia_Society: … and even in the next few years…
May the importance of individual development and service be seen in this light…
Alisa_Russia: @Jansett – I feel the same – a “shared identity”. The Vigil gave me a stronger feeling of connection with everyone, as though we are all speaking with one voice, a force to be reckoned with!
69892: All of the Speakers were great. I could feel Knowledge flowing through each one… One comment resonated…. “You will demonstrate what you have learned.”.. so true.
Tonia_Denmark: More in touch with Knowledge about what is coming next week, over the horizon
Martin_Australia: It seems to me, when Marshall looks directly into the camera it shows his immense capacity for relationship. Marshall is able to address us all at once and individually at the same time, and I have a sense that some of that is for future students too. Truly inspiring
Tonia_Denmark: Etc
Mike_LF_CAL: @Patricia, thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question. I understand there must be a sequence of events, and in this case divine events, and completely respect that. I look forward to the reveal over time with great anticipation…
Carolyn-CT: @Martin: resonating
LaRaeUK: Thank you so much for this Patricia…..
Raoul_Australia: @Shane, well said, I am totally with you on that. The dissonance that is being spread among people is dangerous, it becomes very important to follow the NM teachings down to the very specifics.
Cole_Boulder: Thank you Patricia
Shane – New Zealand: Thank you @Raoul
Val_Boulder: Yes, Patricia, to what end? In my experience, Knowledge and Wisdom are contagious; may we all grow Wise and communicate that, pass the torch by our actions great and small.
May_Norway: It seemed like that for me too @Martin!
Serena_Montreal: @Patricia_Society, thank you for this.
David_Drimmel: This is something I feel a need to revisit. I cannot find the final day Steps broadcast. Is that going to be posted?
Debbie-MI: Thank you Patricia for sharing this.
Virgie_near Seattle: Thinking of the second question … Like others, I particularly noticed Patricia and Marshall talking about patience, waiting, holding, preparing … but felt like I did not know what they were talking about. I’ve been returning every day to Marshall’s exercise of “looking into our past for evidence of KN.” I think it’s starting to give me some kind of a reference point as to what it can look like to be patient and exercise restraint–or to be impatient–or to ignore and suppress something until a crisis comes about … (Mining mistakes for wisdom–such a helpful image.)
One thing I’ve been anxious about is that I’m so new to the journey, I understand so little, and yet there are some significant changes I need to make in my life somewhat soon. I’m so grateful for Marshall’s exercise that’s helped me to see that this patiently holding something that KN has given you, I think is not totally foreign to my experience after all. Perhaps I actually do know a tiny bit of what it’s like, and…
Virgie_near Seattle: … so now I need to really learn how to do it. Just being present with what I’m knowing … This I need to stay with moving forward.
Joyanne_Canada: Very True Martin,
Keiko_Ita: @Patricia Society, I would like to be transparent…
jeanine_Society: @David_Drimmel – you might need to clear your browser’s cache – http://www.newmessage….e-usa
Dariel_Boulder: Dear Patricia…I spoke with another student the other night and we contemplated the idea that, ‘what if STK 1 contained all the other levels’? It actually feels that it could–that if I give myself to a deeper experience of what STK is calling from me, each time I go through, I am given a deeper and deeper experience that never hits bottom. Yes, there may be more, but I don’t think I can take on more than what STK is offering me at moment. I am so grateful to experience being pushed so powerfully to know my true self.
Maureen_Boulder: @ Patricia – In my mind our practice in deepening our connection to Knowledge and each other is toward humanity’s uniting as a race and its successful emergence into the Greater Community of worlds and down the line ultimately ending the Separation.
Darlene_Society: Patricia, “May the importance of individual development and service be seen in this light.” In retrospect I can see that during the early years of setting the foundation for this Message in the world and the platform for Marshall, my service WAS my practice. At the time I felt inadequate in terms of my Steps practice, so much demanded and so little time, but what was given was sufficient to carry forth.
Tyyne Society: @Patricia – yes – to what end? To me that was clear during this Vigil. It is not studenthood for studenthood’s sake, practice for practice’s sake. This is all for something and that something is big, important, critical. Contribution and participation in this great effort. Each person moving forward in order to advance humanity. For the success of humanity, for moving the New Message, which is the salvation of humanity, out into the world so many, many others can help change the course and direction of their lives and ultimately the course and direction of the world. Service. Simple service.
Raoul_Australia: @Martin, so true…MVS addresses present and future students, he knew us all before coming down here…
RaeHyung_Korea: Thank you deeply @Patricia. I’ll keep doing this.
MarkBerger_Boulder: @Patricia – Our development, our relationships, our knowledge are about moving the NM out into the world, as part of a larger picture to preserve freedom in the world so that we can unite up with other Knowledge infused races, over the centuries to come. I feel this big picture and take comfort in knowing our small part to play in this grand drama of immense time and space
Debbie-MI: @Tyyne-so true and so profound…
Tamara~Boulder: @Patricia….I just came out of a week in the wilderness, carrying with me and studying Secrets of Heaven. I came to a realization about this pacing you reference “Our progress as individual participants will proceed at its own pace”……In fully joining in this marriage between my self as Tamara and my Higher Self/Knowledge, the pacing of my life that once existed is no longer set by me. There is a transition underway taking this great relationship of marriage that I have enter into, to the pace that is needed by the Assembly.
72416: @ Shrimayi….. the movement of Spirit/KN/energy went up my back, my neck & over my entire head like a wave as I read “one woman was moved to tears immidiatly when she saw Marshall on screen and started to cry.”(11:12AM) Thanx for the share!!
Alio @ Texas: Ken, Did you get it that you are free to take time, to go through time (a waste of time) in a temporary “giving up” or “quitting” but it only circles you right back to the departure point? There’s no where to go. When I finally agree to get on the bus, I can get off the bus, but there I am, standing alone out in the heat with a transfer ticket in hand…. waiting for the next bus. That goes for my end of embodiment life too…. not completing the ride will leave me at the 4th floor bus stop waiting for the next outgoing ride with no garantee that the bikr racks aren’t already filled.
Lin_Boulder: @Patricia, it was a powerful night with great intension. How the success will look like? how to measure it(them)? how to make it(them) happen over time and in time? what are needed, Knowledge, resources, relationship and community, leadership…I have been with these questions…
Mike_LF_CAL: @Shane (8:45), your not the only here sensing the intervention’s presence, we’re both seeing the same influence ‘s.
Alisa_Russia: @Mark – resonating.
Hardev_Australia: @Shane, Raoul, I feel the same and that the need for more people to become aware of the Greater Community and the Intervention which is becoming greater day by day.
David_Drimmel: Thank you Jeanine!
Tonia_Denmark: Thank you, Patricia, yes, that it is important for each individual to find his or her pace I like very much. The matureness comes increasingly over time, and I felt something landed inside. Like a realization of okay been doing that for a long time, now I need to lift my head and see the most important topics next.
Tonia_Denmark: That was yesterday, not just now now
Keiko_Ita: Love will flow naturally from us…I would like to be in this state as a vehicle.
Shane – New Zealand: Thank you @Mike LF Cal and Hardev.
Joyanne_Canada: @Darlene, My Service was my Practice, how true those words are
Carol_Society: @Patricia, Tyyne: “To what end” reminds me of something Reed said that struck me (paraphrase): “It is not about me, but I are very important to what it is about.”
Patricia_Society: @Kristina (9:23) Thank you Kristina. The platform of stability for the New Message is being built in this manner. When we think of the storms for the world, and potentially for the New Message come what may, may we all contribute to this ongoing stability. “I really appreciated MVS emphasizing importance of stability and 4 pillars, especially work pillar and Dar saying about herself that she was a platform for the NM work. This saved me from side journey of trying to develop more sensitivity that was developing in my head. This way my energy will be focused on whats really important and whats really needs to become stronger in my life, like 4 pillars.”
69892: I am seeing how the NM & Kg are changing the core of my life. I am curious students, if Kg has re-directed you to new paths of work in the world to your Vocation?
Tyyne Society: And to what Virgie and Reed spoke of – the care – this care expressed by MVS to every person, to the mission, to the stewardship of all that is in his care. It is really something to witness, this level of care to people, to the world, to Steps to Knowledge. I was reflecting on how this same care and attention is given to the financial stewardship as well. Such care. Nothing and no one overlooked or unattended to. It is something to witness and be a part of.
69892: And if you have acted upon it’s direction?
Heidi_Germany: Patricia and Society: You may never forget that NM is also spreading beyond the students registered and whose names appear here, but there is a great amount of people who have found the Message, read and listen to everything they can get. There is Knowledge also moving them and going through them to others.
Cameron_Canada: 69892 – you are still a number
Martin_Australia: @Patricia, thank you for the reminder: “Steps Level One and the Continuation training call for a greater involvement and depth of practice and realization from us all.” I have felt some responsibility around that lately
Carolyn-CT: Marshall (day 2: 1:22:22): “So you know, we’ve all came to this Rendezvous, or are in the process of coming to this Rendezvous, here, with the New Revelation, and, we’re pretty beat up from life. You know, we’ve gone through some real things. We’ve got some damage, you know, some of us are a little bruised, and we come here because there’s something mysterious bringing us here. Because I’m not promising you utter happiness, utter peace, utter contentment, and all the things you’ve ever wanted. Something else has brought you here. A very powerful, deep mysterious force.” …
Virgie_near Seattle: 69892: there was a chat not too long ago that addressed this question of career changes–I can try to look it up for you and send your a private message.
69892: Hi–Sorry; forgot to log-in- Paul_MA
LaRaeUK: Thank you for that reminder Carolyn……a powerful deep force indeed.
Carolyn-CT: He was speaking of the gap between our current state, entering the NM, and what we will need to do to become effective and reach the place of beneficence derived from stable and consistent practice.
Jim B. Upstate NY: @ the 2016 Encampment I Marshall and I encountered one another. It was when the Encampment ended and I was helping load the truck up. The last time I went up to see if anything was still there to load Marshall was in the room. It was totally unexpected on my part yet we experienced a time together. He looked at me with a smile and tilted his head sideways as if to say…there you are. I came closer to him and we embraced for the 1st time. I, at that time felt that Marshall looked at me as if he knew me before. I didn’t know what I was experiencing until now. What a moment it was. We are all blessed to have this and him in ourlives.
Patricia_Society: @Kelvin -realization from behind the booth for hours, days and months all told….thank you…..”While observing from the AV booth during the vigil, I had a realization. The work we are all doing, what we are becoming as we are maturing on this journey. The experience of knowing we are not doing this just for us alone, but for others. There is no such thing as perfection, but there is “perfect enough” to do what works. The reward for all the work are the moments in between, when we become invisible and transparent, in the background, the satisfaction of simple service…”
Insuk_Korea: Thank you Patricia for sharing this.
Dariel_Boulder: Dear Patricia…Your description of our 4 Pillar development and gathering of our skills to become that ‘collective structure’ that facilitates the movement of the NM into the world… I can see it! God’s Plan is so immense and yet so perfect. We do the work on the ground in concert with the Greater Coordination. I remember Reed asking us to remember this vision as we work together. It will escape me again and again but being part of this larger structure returns periodically to remind me of my simple but important part. Thank you so much to the Messenger for all he is entrusting us with, bestowing upon us. We have great responsibility.
jeanine_Society: A favorite quote of mine from Step 18 – seems like a true ‘yardstick’ to measure simple progress, i.e. How am I doing?: “To come into the proximity of Knowledge means that you become more and more like Knowledge itself—more whole, more consistent, more honest, more devoted, more concentrated, more self-disciplined, more compassionate and more self-loving.”
Will_Society: Let us conclude the hour with a moment of stillness together, in the seventeen (or more) nations where we are… a moment for practicing the Presence, a moment for gratitude.
Raoul_Australia: @Jim B thank you for sharing that, we really are blessed
Ayesha_Society: @Patricia, this is when something greater than us is requiring and calling forth the development needed, through studenthood/pillars. For me personally, if there were no greater circumstances calling forth and necessitating development and stability, all of this work for the sake of individual development would not be worth it. What is all of this for? Development keeping pace with role…it is for something in service to this environment that I’m called to. It is not just a casual pursuit.
Carolyn-CT: I can see I am going to have to capture this chat and re-read (in my case listen). So much ring said and so powerful my need to hear it again.
Carolyn-CT: *being
Martin_Australia: @Raoul, yes, he knows us, we must be who we truly are
Joyanne_Canada: thank you Ayesha, and Jeanine,
Keiko_Ita: I am so grateful that all members of The Society are the guardians of this Revelation to protect it as pure divine communication…Otherwise it will loose its efficacy to discover this personal revelation….
Tyyne Society: Thank you everyone. To you One-Time Donors of greatly varying amounts, to you as a Friend giving $5.00 to $75.00 consistently each and every month, and to you as a Pillar giving $100.00 a month, with some of you giving equal to 3 Pillars or 5 Pillars or more, we thank you. And to you as a Benefactor giving substantial gifts of your wealth and to you who designate The Society as your beneficiary in part or in whole, we thank you.
The call to support God’s New Message now and deep into the future is for you to give at a level that is equal in measure to what you can comfortably give.
On behalf of the mission and the future of this world, we thank each and every one of you for financially supporting the New Message from God.
Read more about the needs of the Messenger and The Society at: http://www.newmessage….ssage
If you have any questions about donating, please email us at [email protected] and Ayesha Summers or I can…
Tyyne Society: … assist you further evenings and weekends. Thank you for all you do. Sincerely, thank you.
Joyanne_Canada: @Tynne, in the giving you are receiving. The gifts from the Vigil alone are priceless,
Patricia_Society: @ Val-Such a turning point to have reached, ” The New Message, my relationship with the Messenger, are integrated now, into the foundation for my life….”
justin-calif-!: have to run, gang- thank you all for sharing your strength, wisdom and kind words- stay safe- NNC-
Shawn_Moose Jaw: Nasi Novare Coram
39153: @Shane – I agree. The Intervention apologists have infiltrated the “UFO expert community”.
Jim B. Upstate NY: To keep with me in a simple way feeling and knowing that I/We are here for others and the benefit of the world and its freedom is a powerful force within me to keep going forward knowing the outcome is out of my/our hands but what we do now and into the future has everything to do with what will take place in the days and years to come. This is the Presence at work in my life!
Jeanne_Boulder: Nasi Novare Coram
Tamara~Boulder: Yes Dariel…”We have a great responsibility.” Towards the end of Steps to Knowledge, in the 320’s I think, the student is asked to state the following every day in the days to come….”My role is to important to neglect.” If my mind wanders durning meditation, if I find my thoughts drifting into an old pattern, or any other distracted state of being, I remind myself…”My role is to important to neglect.” Humanity needs the efforts of as many individuals pursuing connection with their deeper mind, with the Heart of God, as possible…this role is too important to neglect.
LaRaeUK: Thank you for that Tamara…..
Lin_Boulder: @Ayesha, @Tyyne, it is an honor to devote and dedicate ourselves to the NM, the greatest cause in the world.
May_Norway: Thank you everyone who gave of his and hers wisdom, I will read through this encampment later this evening, thank you Patricia, Reed and Marshall and the society for your great service
LaRaeUK: Hear hear Lin.
Carolyn-CT: “Knowledge is not going to interfere with this prochess by giving you things to do you can’t yet do”. Words that give me hope XO
Jim B. Upstate NY: Indeed Lin! Beautifully said! Thank you!
Alison_Boulder: ADVOCACY GATHERINGS for the New Message from God have resumed to continue every Thursday at Uberconference.com/NewMessage (welcome new participants and thank you!) Times are 6:30MDT and 7BST, where we come together with a common need to provide this Revelation to others, guided by the Society. Recently we gave the broadcast video from day 20 of the Vigil a collective push out into social media and the road ahead will be filled with more videos, photos, sites and blogs composed by volunteers– all meant to share far and wide as part of our service.
Carol_Society: We invite you to experience anew:
THE PRESENCE, an original revelation received by God’s Messenger
December 7, 2009, in Chau Doc, Vietnam
and released by the Messenger during the 2017 Steps Vigil:
http://www.newmessage….e-god
VIDEOS of the 2017 STEPS VIGIL LIVE BROADCASTS
http://www.newmessage….vigil
CAMPFIRE CHAT TRANSCRIPTS http://www.newmessage….ripts
Today’s Chat transcript to be posted at the end of our discussion.
jeanine_Society: To report typos and get support: newmessage.org/help
Keiko_Ita: Thank you everyone…Nasi Novare Coram
manuel germany :): Another traditional German wisdom: “Geben ist seliger als nehmen”, which means “Giving is more blessing than taking”… we can learn a lot about the wisdoms which are in all the cultures…
Mike_LF_CAL: @69892, Paul_MA, (8:55) I have been asking Kn for direction in many areas and am still waiting for direction/guidance etc., the response will not come at once it will take time, there will be no immediate communication. You must have patients, you must be willing to wait…
Mathieu-France: Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram
Susan_Malaysia: Thank you everyone, Nasi Novare Coram
Debbie-MI: Thank you all…Nasi Novare Coram.
98970: Wonderful to be here with you all, thank you…NNC
Kahala_Oregon: Deep gratitude. Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram.
Mike_LF_CAL: @Carolyn_CT (8:57) Thanks for the transcription!
May_Norway: Naci Novare Coram
Robert_Society: Thank you everyone. Nasi Novare Coram
Val_Boulder: Manuel, this came through in a song: Dear Lord, I pray that while I live, you always give me something to give…
Ayesha_Society: Once again I would like so much to give thanks for all the testimonials that were led during the vigil, all the testimonials that were sent in from afar. Even those that did not have spoken/written testimonials, your demonstration and participation are another form of testimonial that speaks loud. Thank you for participating today in creating a wonderful learning environment for us all.
Joyanne_Canada: very nice Val
Heidi_Germany: Thank you Society for organizing this great Vigil! NNC
May_Norway: Ressonate @Mike
jeanine_Society: Blessings to all here today – thank you again for joining and continuing to be with our powerful Group experience of the Steps Vigil. May we carry it forward into the rest of our days….Nasi Novare Coram.
MaryL_Boulder: As a Step states: “My Calling Requires the Development of Others” truly a path of redemption here. No superstar or perfection needed but the individual responsibility to what must be done or step taken and the relationship and support to others so that all can contribute in simple service and become a force and a vehicle for Knowledge. Thank you all here today for supporting the movement of KNowledge in the world. NNC
Patricia_Society: To all: Thank you all. As Reed said, the Messenger recognizes you and what stands before you….all of it….Beyond a point, studenthood will proceed on it’s own. Therefore, with this recognition from him, together may we have this studenthood, and the skills, resources, and the stability created by decades of participation, to carry the New Message from God into this uncertain future that humanity faces.
studenthood yields >foundation building yields > service…along with skills and resources….yields>>> a New Message from God reaching humanity and the world.May we hold and be stable enough as a WWC, to support the Society as guardians and stewards of the New Message…into the deep future
Again, thank you all for participating in the Vigil, for finding the New
studenthood yields >foundation building yields > service…along with skills and resources….yields>>> a New Message from God reaching humanity and the world.May we hold and be stable enough as a WWC, to support the Society as guardians and stewards of the New Message…into the deep future
Again, thank you all for participating in the Vigil, for finding the New
Kari_H_Finland: Thank you all for this opportunity to join you. Nasi Novare Coram
Thérèse: @ Carolyn … how do U listen to the Chat?
LaRaeUK: Thank you everyone for sharing your pearls of wisdom, the depth of your experience of The Vigil and for keeping Marshall so close to your hearts, as we each take The Steps so that one day we may help unite humanity. “The world needs me, but I will wait”.
manuel germany :): …we are supposed to give our gifts to the world… so and by doing so and Taking the Steps To Knowledge we are learning to approach our Greater Purpose and to be an example for the people we encounter in our journey
Darlene_Society: @Mike_LF, “I have been asking K for direction in many areas and am still waiting for direction/guidance etc….” Marshall actually spoke on this during one of the Vigil nights…look for this amazing secret from the Messenger. He (paraphrasing) says either Knowledge doesn’t answer because you are on the right track or K isn’t answering because you are not willing to hear the answer. Potent. It is not waiting. It is being honest and seeing the difference.
Serena_Montreal: Thank you all, to Marshall and Patricia, and to the Society for making this vigil possible and available.
Dariel_Boulder: @Tamara…”There is a transition underway taking this great relationship of marriage that I have enter into, to the pace that is needed by the Assembly.” Yes, I feel this and your words cause me to recognize that I can trust the pace of the AA and the >Corrdination. It takes some of my worry away about the pace being called for being beyond my capability. Humanity, and especially its first responders, are being called forward. To whom much is given…and we have been given much…much will be expected. They will call for every ounce and we will have just enough to give this…
Serena_Montreal: @Patricia, “May we hold and be stable enough as a WWC, to support the Society as guardians and stewards of the New Message…into the deep future.”
Carolyn-CT: @Therese: I downloaded an app called, Capti. It allows you to copy/paste text, has a smart browser so it somehow ‘knows’ the content to read, as well as other text input sources. Very powerful and free.
Patricia_Society: …..and thank you all for finding the New Message and for taking up your place here to help study, practice, realize, hold and to cast your weight forward behind the Message into the time that is now and into the times just ahead and beyond….
Lin_Boulder: @Ayesha, the testimonials are powerful demonstrations for those who try to figure out what this is and those to come in the future “this is real. it has saved my life. It can save yours too.”
Kristina FL: Marshall said on day 2 of the Vigil; “Heaven is counting upon you.” “I, the Messenger, We, the Angelic Assembly need you to prepare and to become a serious student” this really stayed with me to carry forward into my spiritual practice consistency, clarity, simplicity, power and honesty, the ability to wait to hold wisdom….. ” You are not doing this for yourself alone. We practice for ourselves for each other, for those who sent us into the world. If you can hold this understanding you will find the time, you will find the motivation and you will find the commitment to practice.” Thank you Marshall, Patricia, Society and all who made this wonderful Vigil possible for all of us. Nasi Novare Coram
Carolyn-CT: TY Kristina. That is the crux for me too.
Serena_Montreal: “I pray that I may have the courage, wisdom and strength to proceed. I pray that i will succeed in what I am being tested in now. Heaven needs to know that I am reliable, trusted and consistent. Let me use these times and these circumstances to build great strength. For now Heaven needs this great strength to grow in me. Nasi Novare Coram” – MVS
Mike_LF_CAL: @Tamara,@Deriel, (9:04), …yes indeed “My role is to important to neglect.” and also remember that we must succeed for we do not want to cause another to fail because of our failure.
Carol_Society: As always, deep gratitude to Marshall, and to Patricia and Reed, and to each of you, fellow students of the NM. Who would have ever thought, before finding the NM, that we would be connected in this way to so many people, and so many people in so many places around the world?? Regardless of our native language, we all truly speak the same language…the language of the NM…To echo Patricia, we know each other because of the Messenger…Nasi Novare Coram.
Tamara~Boulder: Dariel…”They will call for every ounce and we will have just enough to give” When my mind takes me into the future and out of the certainty of the moment, I will find myself wondering how on earth I will be able to do all that is required. Yet when I come back to today, to the task at hand, all gets done and more.
Alio @ Texas: Oh stingy fearful little me. I should be sharing here … I’m having too much isolated fun in PM chats. One vigil experience… (and experience is powerful…
Something magical happens when the merging happens. “Today I will experience the power of love”… is where it happened for me…. with the guilt, unworthy, self condemnation released, with that fearful veil let go, doing the act of letting awareness of Knowledge’s love happen, and loving- appreciating that, enjoying that 2 way loving, appreciating….. (yes, Knowledge appreciates you)… the prime relationship happens. “Budda, Christ and you come together” You are not limited access to that. It can and will happen in an instant. You can do it right now and then you can do it 10 minutes from now. Someday, we’ll all be doing it non-stop. Thank you Marshall and Patricia. I know it is beyond what we call “hard” but it is worth it. (Easy for me to say…. LOL) No really, it gets hard for us too. More LOL
MVS Society: As all bridges need solid structure to uphold them, creating a bridge for the NMG to be built in our world needs this supporting structure as well. My life is part of the structure for this. Others must become part of the structure for this, each taking and holding a specific role and set of responsibilities. This must be one structure united and built together as our lives become the golden threads woven together for this purpose. In the end, we either become structure for the Great Coordination, or potential only.
Joyanne_Canada: @Carol, who would of thought
Shrimayi Conference: The conference is ending now and we all feel so called to do this.In the near future we will doing this at other conferences.We could realy reach some people they are open.
Tyyne Society: @MVS Oh, wow “… we either become structure for the Great Coordination, or potential only.”
Val_Boulder: I see that, Marshall. As you and the New Message have become integrated into the foundation of my life, my life must be integral to the foundation of the New Message in the world. Nasi Novare Coram.
LaRaeUK: Thank you for that MVS it strikes home.
Kristina FL: Thank you Marshall, may we become a strong structure for the Great Coordination.
Tyyne Society: @Val, so true, thank you for this: “…my life must be integral to the foundation of the New Message in the world. “
Virgie_near Seattle: Thank you to everyone for sharing testimonials during the Vigil, for sharing your comments, and your presence, and to the New Message teachers, Marshall, Patricia, Reed, thank you for so much help and wisdom–for us and for those yet to come. Thank you, broadcast team! Thank you participants in today’s chat! With gratitude to the great Assembly who are working with each one of us, so patiently and powerfully. Nasi Novare Coram.
David_Drimmel: Yes!
Raoul_Australia: Thank you MVS, that is a great encouragement to continue.
Jim B. Upstate NY: Thank you MVS! Thank you!
Tamara~Boulder: Marshall…On June 3rd, 2017 you said, “Alone we have potential. Together we have power.” (9:52AM) The power of this truth remains close to my heart and my growing relationship pillar.
39153: Thank you MVS
Joyanne_Canada: thank you MVS, what a greater perspective to see and contemplate
Andreea_Mtl: Thank you Marshall and everyone. NNC
Shrimayi Conference: Thank you Marshall
Carolyn-CT: I was never satisfied to just have my own life saved, although I am deeply grateful and amazed at this process that is happening to me. But for me, it had to be available to save humanity from where it’s headed in a stubborn, headlong rush. That is one of the things that kept me coming back to the NM in the beginning. The honest, direct, and powerful addressing of that which is really happening in our world.
Joyanne_Canada: Thank you Shrimayi for your dedication to the NM, and for sharing your experience today.
Alio @ Texas: MVS It feels like if I do the skeleton structure framework, the concrete from the manufacturer gets poured in. There is so much assistance supporting us.
Darlene_Society: I pray that everyone here finds their structure, their place, their simple service. You have so much great potential to bring this Revelation to a starving world. Together we can uphold this bridge. Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram
Tyyne Society: @Carolyn – thank you.
MVS Society: Beginning as separate pieces with nowhere to correctly join, we are moved by Knowledge to find the other puzzle pieces to which we naturally connect. The Puzzle is a structure and not a picture only, a structure for a future that must be built for everyone and for the world.
Hardev_Australia: Thank you MVS, “…each taking and holding a specific role and set of responsibilities” in the structure of the Great Coordination.
Dariel_Boulder: Dear Messenger…Thank you for this reminder…”In the end, we either become structure for the Great Coordination, or potential only.” There is a bridge I must cross on the way to becoming this structure. I am coming.
Inhee_Korea: Thank you Patricia and Reed “the Messenger recognizes you and what stands before you….all of it….Beyond a point, studenthood will proceed on it’s own. Therefore, with this recognition from him, together may we have this studenthood, and the skills, resources, and the stability created by decades of participation, to carry the New Message from God into this uncertain future that humanity faces. “
LaRaeUK: Beautiful analogy Alio…thank you.
Martin_Australia: We must realize that structure
Kelton_Calif: May we all be Golden threads woven into a Golden Bridge. Nasi Novare Coram
Carolyn-CT: Thank you Marshall, Patricia, Will, Ayesha, fellow students, for sharing our sacred time together. NNC
Cole_Boulder: Thank you Marshall, Patricia, Reed, The Society, All. NNC
Carolyn-CT: @Tyyne X2
Matt_bzn: Thank you all for the great wisdom today. NNC
Alisa_Russia: Thank you everyone for your strong and stable examples. Connecting with you at the Vigil has sealed something for me. The connection grows stronger and stronger. Nasi Novare Coram.
Reed_Society: Thank you everyone. Important days and weeks for us as we move beyond the Vigil environment. Opportunities for new ways of being, active practice and honoring the recognition that happened for us over these 20 days, honoring it in conviction, action and determination.
Cameron_Canada: Thank you all for your participation. Until next time, be well.
manuel germany :): We all are becoming structure for the Great Coordination – no doubt of that each of us will be taking and holding a specific role and set of responsibilities. Many thanks for the wonderful organisation of the STK Vigil, thanks to the backstage, broadcast team, the person who ironed the Messenger´s shirt, the Society members, all the wonderful spirits called students of the NM, Reed, Patricia and the Messenger.
Shane – New Zealand: Thank you All. And remember that whilst everyone has specific roles, it is everyone’s role to speak out against the Alien Resistance and take a stand for Human Sovereignty. Please let your voice be heard. The Great Waves are hitting, but the intervention is here now and they are stealing the hearts and minds of you fellow humans at an alarming rate. They are laying their foundation for their structure.
LaRaeUK: May the love and grace of God surround and protect His Messenger, his family, the Society and all students of The New Message.
Dariel_Boulder: Dear Reed…I so appreciated your words about the importance of being true to those ‘true relationships’ in our lives. Beyond even purpose, relationship and how we hold it is so important. Could you say more?
manuel germany :): …and thanks to all the people I have forgotten to mention…
Shane – New Zealand: oops – against the Alien Intervention
Alio @ Texas: So miraculous to see you all here and being together in the unfolding event… Wow. Work work work. Pay pay pay…. payday is coming.
Martin_Australia: @Raoul, yes, “action and determination”
Joyanne_Canada: thank you Shane,
Betty_UK: Thank you all, I will revisit this chat again, so much to take in. @MVS thank you for ‘The Puzzle is a structure and not a picture only, a structure for a future that must be built for everyone and for the world.’
Mike_LF_CAL: @Darlene, (9:13) Yes, I remember that night, “either Knowledge doesn’t answer because you are on the right track or K isn’t answering because you are not willing to hear the answer. Potent. It is not waiting. It is being honest and seeing the difference.” I feel Marshall was talking directly to me. Believe me I have been exercising my patients and will continue to do so for as long as it takes… the journey up the mountain is long, I feel understand this…
Mike_LF_CAL: …because I accept it…
Adria_work: Thank you everyone. Thank you so much Marshall. Nasi Novare Coram
Alio @ Texas: Shane, when someone asks me what I do, I often tell them, “I fight aliens”. It always opens up an….. er….. “interesting” conversation
Martin_Australia: Oh, excuse me, @Reed, “action and determination”, yes!
Joyanne_Canada: Deep gratitude and Blessings to everyone. Nasi Novare Coram..
Alio @ Texas: Be still and act everybody. Much appreciation NNC
Val_Boulder: Another way of looking at it Alio, is ‘I’m defending humanity’…
Tamara~Boulder: “The word and sound are in the world.” “God has spoken again.” May the courage, strength and confidence the Assembly and our Allies hold for us be brought into action through our student-hood, through our connection with life, through our development to become a stable support for the New Message from God, and through the many avenues to express/advocate for Knowledge. Let the Presence that surrounds me every day be known by myself so that my actions spread the awareness of this Presence to those I encounter, to those across the world, and to my Family beyond.
MVS Society: To become a structure for the New Message, your life has to become a stable platform even as it changes and expands. This is why we have been given the Four Pillars to build. It is not just for us, but for something much greater.
Jim B. Upstate NY: May the Presence be with all of you out in the world in your daily lives! Thank you to all! A special thanks to MVS for his work in the world and within himself! Nasi Novare Coram
Inhee_Korea: Thank you Marshall for the wisdom “Beginning as separate pieces with nowhere to correctly join, we are moved by Knowledge to find the other puzzle pieces to which we naturally connect. The Puzzle is a structure and not a picture only, a structure for a future that must be built for everyone and for the world.”
Mike_LF_CAL: @Kristina_FL (9:15) resonating!
Patricia_Society: Oh Dear Dar…given the size of this mission of bringing this revelation, the New Message from God, to this world, and in helping to prepare the human family for the Great Waves of Change and our emergence now into the Greater Community, an iteration of these early circumstances will probably exist ongoing, “….during the early years of setting the foundation for this Message in the world and the platform for Marshall, my service WAS my practice. At the time I felt inadequate in terms of my Steps practice, so much demanded and so little time, but what was given was sufficient to carry forth.
Dariel_Boulder: Deep gratitude for the 20 days of giving and receiving. Thank you dear Messenger and family and Society and all present here–and the Teachers of God…Thank God.
Mike_LF_CAL: @Serena (9:16) twice a day every day, that is part of my daily prayer…
Dariel_Boulder: Gives much greater meaning to the 4-Pillar work. It is all so much greater than I will ever be able to comprehend–but in this moment, I experience it. Thank you.
Danny_Australia: Hi all just peaking my head in a bit late but wanted to say hi
Raoul_Australia: Many thanks to everyone! See you soon, Nasi Novare Coram
LaRaeUK: Thank you MVS…that word stability continuously strikes a chord. No going off on tangents. No dashing about pursuing mindless meaningless activities. Stable practice. Stable giving. Stable pillar building….when Knowledge gives me my purpose I must be ready.
Hardev_Australia: Hi Danny
Danny_Australia: Hi Hardev
Joyanne_Canada: thank you Patricia, I feel inadequate in terms of my Steps Practice,
Martin_Australia: @Shane, ” the intervention is here now and they are stealing the hearts and minds of you fellow humans at an alarming rate. They are laying their foundation for their structure.”, yes, that is becoming even more noticeable lately
Jansett_Boulder: A Puzzle wrapped in the Mystery…
Danny_Australia: I agree Martin the intervention is a major issue and I think that is the word illness that is spoiling our indigenous and authentic culture of humanity
Danny_Australia: I think we must conserve old tradition and ritual to the best of our abilities because they are what holds together the fabric of relationship in an authentically human way
Jim B. Upstate NY: @Shane, Martin, Danny Step 202 The Greater Community is influencing the world I see.” Powerful step for me!
76608: I am touched by those simple people (or maybe homeless people) , pls watch this https://www.facebook.c…eater
Dariel_Boulder: Thank you, Martin and Shane for the words of warning about the Intervention. It is a dangerous time. Let us do all we can to become ‘structural’ for the NM.
Jim B. Upstate NY: Step 203 sorry
MVS Society: Yes Martin, All I ask you to do is to be who you really are and to do what you came here to do—a simple request and a daunting challenge which you were designed to fulfill.
Patrick van Hoove (NL): Thank you all. NNC
Danny_Australia: Looks like they are affecting the integrity of basic things like the genetic integrity of our people and our food what happens when that is the case is that they lose something and you can’t quite explain what that is but it is gone and no longer holds on itself.
Alio @ Texas: Joyanne, of course we feel inadequate. Body-brain mind is quite stupid. Thank the grace of greatness that we only need use the words pointing to the word of God to have the real word, the streaming of creation itself close the gap between words of man, words of message to the unspeakable experience of the word of God. Brains are very good for reading and doing the steps. LOL
Dariel_Boulder: @Tamara…Thank you for speaking your experience as a prayer. It is my prayer also.
Lin_Boulder: AoH said, Intervention has its strength and weakness. Humanity has its strength and weakness. The greatest strength in Humanity is Knowledge.
Danny_Australia: Becomes empty sterile and not containing the natural indigenous code of humanity and nature itself
Danny_Australia: @Jim Indeed…
Martin_Australia: Which word illness do you refer to, Danny?
MaryL_Boulder: @Lin, yes despite what come may, there is no greater than the power of Knowledge – a gift from the Creator. May we never forget that and cling to it with our with all our might (as well as each other
Dariel_Boulder: Thank you MVS, for those very powerful words and its strong directive.
Joyanne_Canada: Thank you Alio, I thought I was the only one feeling this way.. at times I keep asking Who am I , I know some of why I am here, but I truly don’t know the Angel side of me very much yet. Oh I wish my mind would get out of my way LOL.. step by step it will unite and align, Revelation by Revelation I will be grown to Who I really am and what I must do to help build this structure….I have a journey to make and the Vigil has given me extra tools for my packsack.. so to speak.. hoping within that I move closer to Who I truly am,..stabilizing myself along the way
Shane – New Zealand: Yes @Lin , and that Knowledge must move us to action.
Mike_LF_CAL: @Will do you happen to know what the status is of the forum getting back up?
Martin_Australia: @Marshall, yes I find that a daunting challenge but it’s also my true desire, so I keep moving step by step
Alio @ Texas: LOL MVS / Martin, Don’t ask for much, just a simple request, now go save a planet. I’m having fun and being serious. Thank God there’s a good laugh in the devotion.
Inhee_Korea: @Patricia thank you for that “during the early years of setting the foundation for this Message in the world and the platform for Marshall, my service WAS my practice. At the time I felt inadequate in terms of my Steps practice, so much demanded and so little time, but what was given was sufficient to carry forth.”
Danny_Australia: If you look at humanity as one collective mind, an organism composed of human beings that are a community or culture, this culture can become spoiled by an external entity to it and thus the system can become interfered in. This can occur in a population of a planet, or in a neural network of a brain, in a community of cells… I think this is where the natural immune system of humanity which could be equated to Knowledge can be the force which ensures that all influences not working for the collective mind of humanity can be eradicated or integrated into the system at large without spoiling its natural integrity strength balance order and harmony.
Danny_Australia: All influences can however be used for a benefit such as to strengthen the immune system and provide a learning experience to better the efficiency of the system as a whole.
Adria_work: Thank you you, Marshall, this is a simple task, yet difficult and powerful in its simplicity… To be the same person in all situations. I have a quote on my mirror of you, when asked how to discover your life’s purpose :”tell always only what you know “(paraphrase)
Shrimayi Conference: @Martin yes this is what I can sense in this environment at this Conference but still I encounter eyes that can see .
LaRaeUK: Amen Alio…..especially as humour must perplex the intervention
Danny_Australia: I think if we can use this as a learning experience it can bring us together and help us recognise what is uniquely human and of God.
Val_Boulder: Danny, just as science has found that the essential oils of certain trees–their life essence–is efficacious in stopping pathogens that have developed no defense for them, Knowledge, our essential protection is unassailable by the worldly, ignorant forces.
Danny_Australia: I think it is in times of war or great darkness that some of the greatest philosophers came about, so there must be something interesting about the meeting between light and dark.
Dariel_Boulder: Thank you so much for this analogy, Danny. Having had cancer I know the importance of strengthening the immune system. Your words resonate with truth.
Patricia_Society: @[email protected] (10:13) Waiting for, waiting for….ever waiting for “Direction from Knowledge.” One way to discern this is not necessarily from thoughts or images we may feel we receive……At times a more powerful indicator, rather, may be “What is the feeling of my life – on track, off track? “……..Knowledge may hold back, and defer to our ability to honestly recognize, appraise and reckon with our condition, ourselves….This may also be a modality Knowledge takes, aka, it holds back waiting for Self Knowledge and self honestly..
JeffreyAdler_Boulder: Thank you, Danny, your insights are…other worldly. Wow.
Danny_Australia: Yes and amazingly Knowledge is adaptable and unpredictable to outside forces which work in an orderly fashion based on past experience and previous learning based on a most efficient means to get a job done.
Danny_Australia: I think in regards to understanding what is uniquely human we will need to recognise that there is a side of the human family and a side that isn’t and I think it may become more clear over time… knowing whose side we are on and who we are holding hands with
Danny_Australia: @Jeffrey thank you I am very bottled up and feel like speaking to share my ideas or else they will escape me and never come to use in any productive way.
Hyeonam_Korea: Thank you all participating this precious chat. Gratitude to Marshall, Partricia, Reed, Society and fellow NM students. Nasi Novare Coram
MVS Society: Yes Raoul, real freedom is no choice but to do what must be done.
Hyeonam_Korea: Yes, Marshall. I pray my freedom which is no choice but to do what must be done.
Martin_Australia: @Danny, yes, i see, I thought you were referring to humanity being infected. Good point about building immunity. It reminds me of something I heard Patricia say, I think it’s from the Revelations,(Paraphrasing)”Knowledge doesn’t arise under normal circumstances, in a preoccupied mind”
LaRaeUK: Thank you MVS, I find that to be one of the most powerful lessons of TNM.
manuel germany :): I say Nasi Novare Coram and thank you so much to you all for all your wisdom and insights you have shared today – I have learned a lot. I am so grateful and happy to be connected to so many wonderful spirits – we are so blessed living in a time of Revelation and while the Messengers walks among us… this is so blissful… how pale and bleak my life was before I found the NM – now it is colorful and joyful and most important it has got a Greater Purpose – we are all here on a mission – and everyone has a little but important role to play
Danny_Australia: I have recently come across a person on YouTube called Leo Gura who is interesting if anyone wants to check it out because he seems to be speaking wisdom from the greater community in a secular fashion but one that is applicable to a wide variety of audience and I wonder if these individuals are following Knowledge or simply informed in the ways of the greater community.
Dariel_Boulder: Thank you, thank you, thank you..thank…you…
Patricia_Society: @ oh Jeanine – thank you. “Yardsticks” for helping us to know where and how this training and reforging in Knowledge going for us at any point in time…”from Step 18 – seems like a true ‘yardstick’ to measure simple progress, i.e. How am I doing?: “To come into the proximity of Knowledge means that you become more and more like Knowledge itself—more whole, more consistent, more honest, more devoted, more concentrated, more self-disciplined, more compassionate and more self-loving.”
Danny_Australia: @Martin yes I think the line between infected and affected is quite thin in the mental environment…
Joyanne_Canada: thank you Patricia, such wisdom is so helpful to wiser insights, Blessings to you
Alio @ Texas: Joyanne, if I observe my brain-mind like a child who was born with a serious defect, I can decide to care for it. Here’s the Ram Das question: “Who then is it that’s doing the observing?” Compassion for the poor brain that, of course can’t know what to do, and appreciation for the wise and knowing watching care-giver who only needs to move occasionally to keep the frantic child safe makes it all feel much safer to my limited brain.
Val_Boulder: Useful analogy, Alio
Joyanne_Canada: doing the observing
Mike_LF_CAL: @Patricia, I understand conceptually that changing my emphasis from thoughts & images to “What is the feeling of my life – on track, off track? ” I must admit that is very subjective and honestly most likely the most difficult way for me to discern… so I will have to be with this for while…walk around it…
Martin_Australia: @Danny, yes, I was wondering which of those two words to choose
MVS Society: Structures by their very nature are coordinated. Here we become part of something greater, something sacred and needed in the world. This is the return. This is what finally brings us out of Separation.
Joyanne_Canada: “God takes you out of your dilemma by giving you something greater to do.”
Alio @ Texas: OK, I really got to get out of here now all. There’s a spot in the woods calling me and my step! So wonderful to see each and every one! Be together in that place. Over and out….
Joyanne_Canada: This is so true, and when you engaged in this greater something to do, your dilemma seems to fall away,, my experience\
MVS Society: Yes Shane, I am committed to meeting this greater need.
Joyanne_Canada: Okay some of your dilemma’s lol
Martin_Australia: Wow, that’s the hour again
Danny_Australia: @Martin I know yes it can be hard because like you may say oh that person is affected by the intervention… Ok but everyone is to some degree I guess so it may be just how we respond to these forces that determines the manifestation of this illness or challenge or learning experience and allows it to come to a more productive engagement based on relationship with a Higher Power and still interacting in the world
Danny_Australia: @Martin I know yes it can be hard because like you may say oh that person is affected by the intervention… Ok but everyone is to some degree I guess so it may be just how we respond to these forces that determines the manifestation of this illness or challenge or learning experience and allows it to come to a more productive engagement based on relationship with a Higher Power and still interacting in the world
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Martin_Australia: @Danny, you’re on fire, bro! Love it(11:04AM)
Joyanne_Canada: Be well MVS, and all. Stay strong in Knowledge, “Return Keep Returning”, NNC(11:05AM)
manuel germany :): By connecting our worldly mind with our deeper mind (Knowledge) which in itself is the connection to God and by expressing Knowledge in the world we will become stewards of Knowledge. a world which is governed by egoism, corruption,(11:05AM)
Val_Boulder: Thank you, dear ones. May we be the people that our world needs now.(11:05AM)
Danny_Australia: If the Messenger were not in the world there would not be a Source to guide this fire that speaks through my heart and mind and it would have no place to go(11:06AM)
Martin_Australia: I feel the same, Danny(11:07AM)
manuel germany :): and all the other negative attributes we as Men and Women of Knowledge will give our contributions to a needy world, more so as the GWC approaches and the Darkness of the Intervention is growing day by day…(11:07AM)
Martin_Australia: We would have Knowledge but not our calling necessarily(11:08AM)
Shrimayi Conference: Thank you all.Have to read it all later.NNC(11:09AM)
Danny_Australia: I think when the Messenger is in the world the mountain becomes more clear and we can see the top a bit better or at least as far up as we can look and we can get a better idea of its size and proportion in its relationship with humanity.(11:10AM)
Jim B. Upstate NY: Danny…you have said some meaningful things. Thank you!!!(11:12AM)
Shane – New Zealand: I am with you all the way Marshall, thank you. NNC.(11:13AM)
Danny_Australia: Is it possible that if people are sharing the same presence from a distance that the heart rates may become synchronised? Like if the heart of one is beating at a certain rate and others also may receive this resonance?(11:15AM)
Martin_Australia: @Danny: Yes, living at a time of revelation certainly gives a contrast of where we are and where we need to be. “The Messenger brings a whole new reality”- The Origin of the Messenger(11:16AM)
Jim B. Upstate NY: Some things Danny has said got me thinking. We are all part of the boat comprising all the parts of the boat for it to float. MVS is the ballast providing the stability necessary for the boat to move and be guided. NNC(11:17AM)
Martin_Australia: “But only a Messenger from God can bring an entire new reality and change over time the awareness and the consciousness of large numbers of people, even affecting the attitudes of the entire human race.” -The Origin of the Messenger(11:19AM)
Martin_Australia: Nice, Jim(11:20AM)
Danny_Australia: Oh yes only the Messenger can show us the Mountain!(11:21AM)
MarkBerger_Boulder: I’d say MVS has his hand on the wheel of the ship(11:21AM)
Danny_Australia: Easily yes he must and it must take such strength and responsibility to be in such a position(11:22AM)
Martin_Australia: I think the messenger carves a path up the mountain, the Revelations show us the mountain, Knowedge guides us and Steps is the map(11:22AM)
Danny_Australia: Spot on yes and there must be a whole journey behind the Messenger because he is a human being after all who had to walk up an uncertain terrain into unknown territory quite amazing actually hitting the road first the virgin snow of the mountain first up the mountain to see the view from above really amazing!(11:25AM)
Martin_Australia: May we follow what God has given us, engage with the tools that the Messengers have received for us and walk with the Messenger(11:26AM)
Danny_Australia: May we walk with the Messenger yes may we help share the burden of responsibility for this planet called Earth a beautiful planet and one with amazing potential and opportunity for growth and contribution to a greater panorama of life in the universe!(11:27AM)
Martin_Australia: Indeed, Danny. My sense is that this world has had more messengers than some other have had. Also, we are very blessed to be able to hear the Voice of Revelation. It speaks of the great potential of Humanity(11:31AM)
Martin_Australia: and the great predicament we are in too(11:33AM)
Danny_Australia: Of course yes such potential it has such promise and potential because it has had a lot of time to brew and ferment and prepare to emerge into the greater community.(11:33AM)
Martin_Australia: Unfortunately, humanity hasn’t protected the brewing environment and some contamination has occurred. It’s no good adding extra sugar to the brew, we need to work with the yeast or culture(11:39AM)
Danny_Australia: That’s right a slow releasing carbohydrate always works better! and a nicely sealed airspace is also important(11:40AM)
Danny_Australia: Aboriginals are a pretty good strain of culture they are one of the oldest in our planet they might be able to help us strengthen our immune system by providing us with some foundations about who we are and what makes us uniquely HUMAN(11:45AM)
Hardev_Australia: Danny, I recently introduces Steps to an aboriginal lady and she is starting to steps already. She sees the need for Steps and how it can help her people.(11:47AM)
Martin_Australia: Yes, that culture was uncontaminated for a long time.(11:48AM)
Danny_Australia: Yes! Awesome! Awesome Hardev! So great! Cause we need this and they need this to find their own strength and guidance to reclaim ownership of their rights as indigenous people of Australia(11:48AM)
Danny_Australia: Yes uncontaminated yes(11:49AM)
Danny_Australia: A precious cargo within a country(11:49AM)
Hardev_Australia: The NMG will resonate well with the indigenous peoples.(11:50AM)
Martin_Australia: Wow and a hundred times wow, Hardev! That is amazing news. I would love to hear more of that story when we catch up(11:50AM)
MaryS_Boulder: Martin, it’s interesting what you are saying about how blessed is this planet with a great abundance of Messengers whose Messages have gone out into the whole world. Apparently this is as rare in the universe as is freedom.(11:50AM)
Hardev_Australia: @ Martin, it is an interesting story and will share with you.(11:52AM)
Martin_Australia: Mary, yes, that seems right. Maybe there is a correlation between freedom and revelation?(11:52AM)
Martin_Australia: Thank you, Hardev. The indigenous Australians would certainly get the Intervention aspect and they know of the Mental Environment too(11:55AM)
Danny_Australia: I think we can learn from some of the mistakes they made also(11:56AM)
Danny_Australia: And some of the things they did right and are still doing to maintain their integrity and freedom as sovereign people of their own land(11:58AM)
Hardev_Australia: @ Danny and Martin. I’m going to hit the sack now. Good night and NNC.(12:00PM)
Danny_Australia: Good night Hardev I think that is a good call I’ll do the same thanks for the awesome chat everyone and I will try to join a bit earlier next time(12:01PM)
Danny_Australia: Nasi Novare Coram(12:02PM)
Martin_Australia: Me too. Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram(12:12PM)
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@ Martin. I wouldn’t say the planet has had a great abundance of Messengers with a capital “M”. Jesus, Buddha, Mohammad and now Marshall. Perhaps you mean messengers with a lower case “m”?