Campfire Chat July 29, 2017

Ellen_Society:  Before we begin the session, I will post Quotes from Marshall – from last week’s chat:……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..“As long as you want something from the Intervention, you will not be able to see it clearly. To know the truth in this matter and in many other matters as well, you cannot be governed by fear or preference.”

“In your Greater Community outreach efforts send people to the Allies. Let the Allies present the big picture for those who are able and ready to see. It is difficult to present the big picture of the GC yourself. That is why God has called for the Allies to come at this time as part of the Great Coordination to protect and advance humanity.”

“True resistance to any force in the world or beyond comes from Knowledge. It is the natural ‘push back’ against a destructive force that you are natively designed to face and to resist. Yet you…

Ellen_Society:  … must be able to recognize and discern the correct force to resist. People fail to do this all the time, resisting good things, bad things and things that do not matter.”

“Unfortunately, much New Age teachings and assumptions can be easily used for pacification. That is their purpose.”

“Read and study this Chat repeatedly throughout the week. Be grateful you are not alone in this world and that your realm of relationship is growing each day as we take the NMG into the world.”

99720:  Hello everyone! NNC
Richmond_UK:  Hello everyone
Bethne_UK:  @MaryS Hi Mary- I think that no was me-at 4:50 !
Hyeonam_Korea:  Greetings all. NASI NOVARE CORAM
Mike_LF_CAL:  Hello everyone!
Eron_Boulder:  Nasi Novare Coram
Tonia_Denmark:  Hello all. Nnc. Very happy to be here with you all.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @JefferyA_Boulder are you all settled in now in your new city of Boulder?
Ellen_Society:  The hour has struck. Lets take a moment to honor our gathering here, and the very important purpose behind it. Let us give our full measure of gratitude to Marshall Vian Summers for bringing this life-saving Message to the world.
Youngkyo_Korea:  Hello everyone!
manuel germany :):  Hi Rich, good to “see” you here again 
Tonia_Denmark:  Gratitude felt and gratitude given.
Raoul_Australia:  Hello everyone, greetings from Queensland Australia
Ellen_Society:  Welcome, all of you from near and far, who gather with great longing to experience the wisdom shared during our chats. We send a special welcome to new people joining us for the first time. Please be sure to change your number to a name, and to let us know that you are joining us today, so we can acknowledge your arrival.
Richmond_UK:  Hi Manuel, you too!
manuel germany :):  Hi Raoul welcome! How is the weather there? Here, temperatures are rising again…
Rosa_UK:  Hello all! NNC
Kristina FL:  Greetings to all students. Nasi Novare Coram
Betty_UK:  Hi everyone
Jeanne_Boulder:  Good day to all
manuel germany :):  Hi Betty, welcome 
Raoul_Australia:  Hi Manuel, yes! Today was up to around 25 degrees, beautifull sunny weather
Mike_LF_CAL:  Do we have any first timers here this mroning? If so, say hello…

Will_Society:  Hello everyone. We begin our Campfire Chat discussion today with the Deep Study method: what kind of results have you experienced, if you have worked with it?

From the Study Plan:…3i6ru

support:  For those who are still a number, you can change it to your name by clicking on the gear located on the lower right on the toolbar.
Greg_UK:  I wanted to report that I took some visitors on an archaeological tour of Stonehenge and Avebury this week and ‘stumbled’ upon this exhibition whilst searching for something to eat. http://www.cropcirclea…m/The two leaders are Dutch I think, and I spoke briefly with the lady about UFO’s and dropped off all the Allies cards I had on me to circulate to her volunteers.
MaryS_Boulder:  Lurkers welcome as well, as discretion dictates.
Mike_LF_CAL:  I would like to thank Patricia for taking the time to prepare her Deep Reading approach with us all, it is very much appreciated!!!!
Maurice_Winnipeg:  great job Greg
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Ellen for sharing the quotes from Marshall.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Well done Greg!
Paul_MA:  Greg–the crop circles are truly amazing, so complex…wondering who is sending us those messages: Allies or Foes?
Jim B. Upstate NY:  That’s great Greg!
David_Drimmel:  Hello everyone!
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Greg “good show”!
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Indeed Mike! Thank you Patricia!!
Raoul_Australia:  Great Job, Greg! …and Stonehenge brings back great memories 
99417:  Good day Everyone! Nasi Novare Coram.
Mark_Pittsburgh:  @Will – The Deep Study method provided focus and several lenses to look at the Revelation more deeply.
mellany UK:  Hello everyone!
Greg_UK:  LOL no idea, i just responded to the oportunity. I didnt want to get drawn in to a deeper discussion because everyone i was with thin i
Deanne Calif:  Good morning all!
Greg_UK:  thinks i am nuts*
Arthur:  Someone like me @Cameron who silently judges from a distance
manuel germany :):  Hi Mel, welcome 
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Greg, you are nuts!
Debbie_MI:  @Greg-Thank you for sharing that! That is great!
Alisa_Russia:  @Cameron @Arthur – or those who don’t change their numbers to names.
Mike_LF_CAL:  …me too…lol.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Will_Society “… the curriculum that is given on an individual level is quite specific. Many people need a very regimented life with tremendous self-discipline and structure in order to achieve anything, to gather their resources internally and to organize their thinking and affairs. Other people need to give up all regimentation and confront space, nothingness and openness directly. “
WGC1.9 Spiritual Truths
“… for them there is a very special curriculum which we will not speak of, for it is not relevant to your needs. They choose a path that is very expedient but not easy because the direct method is not easy. The slower method is easier now but more difficult in the long run.”
WGC1.22 Escaping Suffering“Direct experience means you are experiencing a reality that is beyond your interpretation.” … “Becoming a true contributor in life, guided by your own Knowledge and unfettered by your own interpretation of reality, is the greatest achievement possible and one that will…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … make you a great resource for everyone you come in contact with, … and for people whom you will never see.
WGC1.30 Perception
MaryS_Boulder:  @Cameron, lurkers are numbers who choose to remain anonymous
Maurice_Winnipeg:  @ Greg society can’t be taught all at once because I learned that instruction happens at the level of the individual
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @Greg…things are not always what they seem. Many who think they are strong are really weak and the ones who think they are weak are really the strong ones.
Cameron_Canada:  Ah Arthur . lol
Wendy, NY:  There is so much material, and with the deep study method it becomes easily a lifetime project. I’ve decided whatever bit I encounter any particular day is worthy of deep focus. I’m still fairly new to Steps, so it’s a lot. Deep gratitude to Marshall, Patricia, Reed, and the Society members.
Maurice_Winnipeg:  @ Cameron lurkers the silent majority?
Virgie_near Seattle:  @Paul_MA–crop circles could not be the work of our Allies because they are not here visiting us.
Selma London:  The juxtaposition of things is important for my learning, perhaps due to my dyslexia. I link Steps in the Gold Book and CT, and then with particular Revelations and events in my life – I need a 3D picture, looking at different angles, but actually it’s not really an image at all, because I learn auditorially and kinetically.
So the first thing is to allow the Revelation to conk me out – it’s almost like I’m in an altered state with a completely different story being told, but that I cannot yet grasp. Therefore, it’s best for me to listen the first time, lying flat out (as I do in my meditation), completely relaxed and open, and having had as little exposure to the Revelation as possible beforehand, as that first impact is the most powerful, and never happens again. I don’t want to water it down in any way.
I may listen more than once in this way until I’m in a completely awake & alert state at least most of the way through. Next, I’ll listen and read together to the whole thing, in…
Selma London:  … depth, stopping & starting, underlining, taking out quotes, cross-referencing, sorting themes, reflecting and allowing myself to make associations, such as with situations in which it might be relevant. It takes me about 2 hours to do this for each 1/2 hour of Revelation, so I usually only do this once from beginning to end in one go. Later I may look at chunks or various aspects, but initially I’m trying to take in each Teaching whole. Once I’ve done this, I can then listen to bits, read & listen to bits together, just read, or listen with more of a free mind that’s not trying to concentrate – so a combination of taking it in intellectually, and the deeper penetration into my system, heart, body & soul. Making associations then becomes part of the learning for me – with life events, with parts of other Revelations and Steps, key words, colours & textures, seeing the progress of my thinking over time, and looking from different angles.
For example, at the moment I have a…
Ilhun_Korea:  @Jim_B, ” Many who think they are strong are really weak and the ones who think they are weak are really the strong ones.” I agree with you.
Selma London:  … fascination with the word ‘EXTEND’, which keeps popping up everywhere, & is on my mind – how is K extending itself (through me to others & to the world)? “Responsibility will enable you to love and extend yourself into the world.”
From <http://stepstoknowledg…y.htm>
I give myself to the Revelation & let it take me where it wants. This was something that I just naturally did right from the beginning – it was never something I tried to do. In fact, in a way I didn’t really have a choice in the matter, as it was simply what happened to me. But when I read, I physically place my concentration down into my heart, or even deeper into my core, and take it in from there.
Lin_Boulder:  Will When I did the deep study of the revelation, I realized there are levels of teaching imbedded in the revelation, and it is not only for this time, but for humanity in the future, for example, it reveals what humanity would do if we are educated about the Greater Community, “This would become a worldwide focus, and the emphasis would be on establishing your own Rules of Engagement…”
Tonia_Denmark:  Hello Will. I am very much a beginner at this deep study methodology, but it overall feels like an experience of either: I feel I look from a hill above or I move into it like swimming in water or I go beneath and look up. How I approach it dertermines the outcome, I feel. The more I read it over and over, like 4-5 times, the phrases begin to relate to other revelations, and when it catches on, I feel so happy, because then I have something to carry with me into daily life and this chat
LaRaeUK:  Greetings fellow students… pleased to be with you all.
Ken_Oklahoma:  If you have worked with the Deep Study Methodology, what kinds of results have you experienced? Concerning these following questions: What must I do? / What must I not do?
What is the revelation asking of me?
I feel a deep need to advocate and inform others about the NM Greater Community Teachings and the Allies of Humanity Briefings.
Rosa_UK:  Thank you rayhobbs I loved that quote you mentioned about “Direct experience means you are experiencing a reality that is beyond your interpretation”..
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Alisa_Russia “Why are nations in this world always threatening each other? They are so similar to one another, yet they accuse each other of the greatest evils.
What will resolve the dilemma? They love each other, but they cannot join, so they fight. That is why people fight. They cannot separate.
They cannot join. So they fight.
That is what is existing between this nation and the Soviet Union.
You cannot join; you cannot separate.
You will have to join, let me tell you.
You will join because you will realize you are exactly alike and you will become increasingly similar in the years to come.
Why will you join?
….because you are faced with a Greater Community beyond your borders.
This may be the saving grace in this world. You will have to contend with a bigger problem than the differences between your two nations that are so alike.”
WGC1.3 Greater Community http://www.newmessage….ume-1
Kelvin_Colorado:  @Will, the experience of reading slowly, stopping and feeling. The deep reading method. I recognize even more now that there are indeed very few speaking for the truth, who are clear and grounded, we amongst very few are the ones standing…Like the Sufi story of the well, we are holding the memory for correction in a mental environment that is being changed ever so gradually.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Lin, yes I resonate with that as well.
61345:  Greetings everyone.
Maureen_Boulder:  I find the deep study method very productive. When I move more slowly through the steps and read each sentence carefully, I begin to piece things together that I hadn’t seen before. I read the sentences over and over asking for clarity of mind. These steps are so rich but the true fruits are hidden deep in their soil. I am learning to become a Steps farmer.
Tonia_Denmark:  Reading carefully, with a curios sense of trying to see the vastness of “room”within a revelation is a grateful feeling when it begins to emerge slowly, bit fot hit.
Kelvin_Colorado:  Correction >> not the well, sufi story >> “When the waters changed”
Greg_UK:  @Maureen or a Marshall Artist 
61345:  Greg, I like that.
Shane – New Zealand:  Hi Tonia  thank you
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Greg – Good one.
Ginny_Dallas:  @ Maureen – This has been my experience as well.
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you too 
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  The deep study has brought up surprising clarity and direction with regards to this revelation. Each time I go over it , switching back and forth from just listening to reading to reading and listening and then reading aloud has refined my hearing it truly. It becomes so clear in the moment, but there is so much that each time brings out something new. The experience of focusing on the meaning , the direct simple perception of what the revelation is providing, is like seeing something for the first time truly that has been in front of me all along. What strikes me about the process of deep study is the movement from the complex and confusing to the simple and direct beholding .
Mike_LF_CAL:  Yes, Greg, I like that better to, “A Marshall Artist”!
Paul_MA:  The Deep Reading Method. My process involves reading the Revelation and writing out what really resonates from the Teaching. Then I utilize a number of questions from the DRM to really focus on what is truly important.. There is so much information presented, that this method helps to pull out the most essential information,…the What Really Matters stuff. The key info that I can come back to in 6 months or so.
Ilhun_Korea:  @Maureen, ” I am learning to become a Steps farmer.” is a good expression.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  So well said Shawn! I can deeply relate to what you have said> Thank you!
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “The concentration of one mind affects other minds and stimulates concentration within these minds. It activates the deeper instincts in others—the desire for contribution, accomplishment, value and meaning. These can all be stimulated by the concentration of one mind. In fact, all great people are always surrounded by people of lesser concentration seeking to benefit from the presence and the productivity of that one concentrated mind. It is natural for people to gravitate towards individuals who are concentrated, for these individuals generate power, meaning and productivity.” WGC2.31 Concentration http://www.newmessage….ume-2
Alexandra_NL:  @ Shawm: “What strikes me about the process of deep study is the movement from the complex and confusing to the simple and direct beholding”… resonating…
Jorge_Spain:  When I do deep study of a revelation, sometimes almost any sentence may have great impact on me, but unfortunately I can’t sustain this penetration and receptivity for long. I usually get this state by selecting just one page of the revelation and reading it again and again at different moments, and not looking for more for a while.
Joyanne Canada:  Deep Reading., Deep Listening over and over seems to expand my understanding, and many quotes stand out and stay with me throughout the day.. such truths, that seem to broaden my capacity to understand on a deeper level.. After Patricia made the mp3, about deep listening, I realized listening to the Revelations over and over this deep listening was my experience all along with the Revelations.. It is critical for me to listen to the Revelations over and over, so they become more clear within.
Debbie_MI:  @Maureen-Thank you for sharing your experience with the STK. I am doing something similar and find it helps. I also find that reading the step out loud seems to help me and I imagine that keeping in mind the deep study method might help as well even if it is mainly meant for help in studying and applying the revelations.
Bethne_UK:  @ kelvin That caches me Kelvin we are holding the memory for correction in a mental environment that is being changed ever so gradually.we are holding the memory for correction in a mental environment that is being changed ever so gradually.
Kari_H_Finland:  @Paul, Yes I noticed too that “What really matters” come out through Deep Study Method. I have just began it, but what I learned so far is that the deep study brings greater clarity to really important issues for the world and for me and my relationships. Reading and listening only can bring you only to certain level when engaging with the Revelations.
Wendy, NY:  Human Sovereignty Movement – YES! And Maurice – yes – I believe it starts with the individual. I have increasing awareness of the level of deception we live with collectively in our consumer society. How to extricate oneself? It exists at all levels. Just reading about deception in the food industry in new book: Big Fat Surprise. Deep study is somehow a catalyst for waking up. Helps me really pay attention. Doing it with Steps – write it out, speak it out, feel it in my body.
Joe_UK:  Hi Will. By reading the Core Revelation when holding two of the criteria questions of Patricia in my awareness, I experienced specific sentences and words jumping out at me. The meaning this gave really inspires me to continue this Deep Study, rereading the Revelation with the other criteria questions.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  I too find this Jorge, I sometime get caught on one phrase for some time…. even a particular word can cause a whirlpool of focus.
Mike_LF_CAL:  I try to keep learning whenever I can. I have not found the time yet to follow the DRM of Mapping that Patricia outlined but I can really my experience of learning on a limited time budget so to speak. I mainly listen to the Rev’s, over and over again, the initial listening is usually in a quite environment, but after this I listen whenever I can find a sufficient time slot, walking the dog, diving (I no longer listen to the radio) and any time I’m not too exhausted before bedtime.
MaryS_Boulder:  Wow, Joyanne, I noticed how deep and continuous your listening practice a long time ago.
Jeanne_Boulder:  my step for today Step 113
A NY MIND THAT IS MORE RESOLVED THAN YOURS can persuade you and cast an influence upon you.There is nothing very
mysterious about this. It is simply the result of one mind being more concentrated or focused than another. Minds have relative degrees of influence upon one another, depending upon their concentration and depending upon the kind of influence they exert. Let Knowledge persuade you, for that is the greatness that you carry. Let not the opinions or will of others persuade you. Let only their Knowledge influence you, for only this can influence your Knowledge.This will be quite different from feeling dominated, manipulated or persuaded by others.
MVS Society:  When doing Deep Study, it is important to highlight those things you do not understand or that are confusing to you and begin to explore them in the New Message, which repeats its vast number and layers of Teaching in many places. Expanding one’s understanding requires dealing with the problems and challenges of building real understanding. Therefore, do not just look for confirmation here, look for exploration. Confirmation affirms where you are. Exploration takes you further up the mountain.
Jangsun_Korea:  @Selma, thank you for sharing your deep study method. It is really wonderful.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Consider this, because we are preparing you for the Greater Community. Consider the concentration of those who are joined together in singular purpose and are visiting the world at this time. You cannot yet match their concentration. You are much too distracted. Yet, your visitors can provide motivation for you in this regard: They have achieved concentration.” WGC2.31 Concentration http://www.newmessage….ume-2
Inhee_Korea:  @Maureen thank you for sharing your experience “These steps are so rich but the true fruits are hidden deep in their soil. I am learning to become a Steps farmer.”
Ilhun_Korea:  @rayhobbs: Thank you for the quot from WGC2.31 Concentration.
“The concentration of one mind affects other minds and stimulates concentration within these minds. It activates the deeper instincts in others—the desire for contribution, accomplishment, value and meaning. These can all be stimulated by the concentration of one mind. In fact, all great people are always surrounded by people of lesser concentration seeking to benefit from the presence and the productivity of that one concentrated mind. It is natural for people to gravitate towards individuals who are concentrated, for these individuals generate power, meaning and productivity.”
Tonia_Denmark:  It is like a system presented, a world. Presented in parts, explained as thoroughly as possible to be applied, like applications. The more explored and understood, the deeper connection. Which makes it more easy for students to talk about it with others. The more dots connected, the more to talk about, and understand or perhaps redirected in understanding.
Cameron_Canada:  If for no other reason deep study is important to remember the important items. The human brain, or at least mine, has a tendency to easily forget.
Susan_Malaysia:  Thank you, MVS
Virgie_near Seattle:  As I was listening to Patricia teach on the deep study methodology, when she spoke of something like, almost getting physical with the text–it was an “Oh, duh, of course I need to do that” moment. Beginning to develop my own methodology, I found it made an immense difference just to print out the text (in very small font, to make the total number of pages manageable) and write and draw and underline and highlight all over it. I felt like I could really start to “see” it … and perhaps the most powerful thing was to really feel the connection between the revelation and my Steps work.
Selma London:  Thank you Jangsun
Ellen_Society:  That is an important clarification, Marshall…THANK YOU!
Bethne_UK:  look for exploration. Confirmation affirms where you are. Exploration takes you further up the mountain.Thank you Marshall
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Debbie Yes. Reading the steps out loud slowly and with emphasis helps me too. I try to take each sentence individually and then the whole step and how it is connected to the previous step and how it is connected to my daily experience too.
Debbie_MI:  By reading the Core Revelation using the deep study method, I find it does help. I find it especially helps if I focus on only one or two criteria at a time for each time I read it.
Alexandra_NL:  Thank you MVS. One of those confusing or challenging things that I encountered in my studenthood has been “Learning to learn”…
Ed Southern Cal:  I read, annotate, and underline the major points of the step I’m doing.
Samantha_South Africa:  Thank you so much MVS
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you MVS!!
Tonia_Denmark:  Okay thank you, Marshall.
Maureen_Boulder:  I need to stop often because there is just so much to contemplate and absorb.
Ellen_Society:  You can certainly continue on withe conversation in this thread, but I will now introduce the 2nd question; How would you speak of the teaching Humanity’s Emergence into the Greater Community in sharing it with others who seem interested?
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Yes Cameron, Shakespeare called it “bestial oblivion”. I always forget but I do remember the feeling that I was finding something and that brings me back, it always brings me back.
Debbie_MI:  @MVS-Thank you for that clarification!
Ed Southern Cal:  I have a workshop session later today in which I’ll be discussing the Steps, showing videos of Marshall, and taking attendees through a brief, early step.
Kristina FL:  Thank you Marshall
Jorge_Spain:  Building real understanding is really demanding, indeed.
Ed Southern Cal:  I showed videos of the Steps vigil too.
carolyn-ct:  Entering the Steps and transcribing videos into iNotes, after listening, has gone a long way to slowing down my mind so that the ‘noise’ subsides enough for me to hear the messag ebesr
Ed Southern Cal:  Some of the attendees have picked up and begun the walk up the mountain.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  For me the Revelation and its teachings can never be exhausted. I’m try to take bits and pieces from certain teachings that stir within me. When I am with these for a few days I then attempt to apply them in my daily life…little by little. I can feel that Knowledge is emerging within me slowly yet more powerfully as I practice. I am what I do and in thinking meaningfully and in stillness I can feel knowledge oh so slowly. It is there. My gift is in giving of myself which is so little. Yet the gift that is given back to me is beyond what I could ever think it would be.
Hardev Australia:  @ Ellen, this paragraph came up for me and how I can correlate what with othere who seem inerested.
“These societies, like so many others in the Greater Community, have outstripped their worlds’ natural resources and must now engage in a very complex arrangement of trade and commerce to gain access to the very resources that they need. Their technological advancement has not freed them from this need, but has indeed escalated the requirements of life.”
Ken_Oklahoma:  It helps me to listen and read a message at the same time, to hear it, see it, feel the words, phrases and concepts more fully. Also listening to the same message repeatedly, day after day helps.
carolyn-ct:  *better. Then, I kind of map it out using formatting tools, billeted statements. Because so many times, there are statements that need to be taken on their own, as well as in context with what is surrounding them.
Hardev Australia:  I see this happening today in the workplace. Technology has not freed up the worker as was envisaged in the introduction of technology and automation. The workplace has instead become more demanding and stressful. Our recent technological advancement has already shown an escalation in the requirements of life.
Cameron_Canada:  @Shawn “bestial oblivion” is an apt description – lol
Raoul_Australia:  Thank you MVS, what you said here: “Confirmation affirms where you are. Exploration takes you further up the mountain.” reminds me of the last sentence in Step 108 “do not be content with simple conclusions, for you are a beginning student of Knowledge and great conclusions come later.”
Jansett_KY:  This may look like a scholarly pursuit but it is actually a preparation for the call to action.
Carol_Society:  @Maureen, Debbie: I also read the Step aloud, and have been using the first person: instead of “you,” using “I” and “me” is very powerful. Ex. Step 134, You do not need to define your purpose = I do not need to define my purpose…
Mark_Pittsburgh:  @Ellen – This statement from the revelation makes it difficult to talk to others: “You cannot prepare yourself. You do not even know what you are preparing for, or what the preparation will require.” But I feel like asking questions such as “What are you your beliefs about Aliens?” Can start a conversation that reveals how ignorant we are as a race about the GC.
Kari_H_Finland:  “How would you speak of the teaching Humanity’s Emergence into the Greater Community in sharing it with others who seem interested?” Strange enough, I found out that Deep Study helps me to introduce the Revelation to another. Before that the Revelations have been obvious to me but I have not been able to make this transparent to others.
Ed Southern Cal:  Some of Marshall’s oratory is hard to follow, but there are enough that are short and clear to give participants an idea of who he is and what the Steps practice means.
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Marshall
Ellen_Society:  @Mark….That is a good beginning question, thanks.
Debbie_Plano:  When I am confused about something that I have read or don’t quite understand it, I go to the search bar on the website and look for that topic. That really seems to help me find things quickly. Yes, Carol, I have recently been doing all my Steps in the first person and it really seems to be more powerful for me as I read it to myself or out loud.
Kristina_Boulder:  I think when decision is made to study a teaching deeply (outside of school sessions) it needs to be made based on deeper need. At different times in my life I’m drawn to different teachings, some I read and reread over and over again and some I have no interest in reading until when I’m called to do so and then when I do it has great and right effect on me. That’s what happened when I was called to read Provoking change, this teaching changed my life, literally.
Ed Southern Cal:  I discussed Steps 1 and 2 at the last session, and took my group through Step 8 as a demonstration.
Cameron_Canada:  In the last month, I have had the opportunity to travel back a visit with many of my good friends and family. Most of my friend’s interest was sparked by my dedication and demonstration of meditation practices. Occasionally I was not moved to say much at all while other times conversations went on for several days. Since Allies of Humanity was my first point of contact, this is where I usually direct people to begin their enquiry. Longer conversations developed from those who actually took the time to read this information. I found it useful to limit the quantity of information I provided as well as (when possible) my enthusiasm. With a teaching of this magnitude, it is wise to go softly and allow not my experience to colour the experience of others.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  When there is some one who finds this interesting I feel a transformation come on… as though I become the new message itself. Difficult to describe but it is like …. I am made for this communication… it generates a feeling of love and inclusion when the other is receptive. I am listening to there reaction as I speak of it so as not to go to fast. Thing is, it is rare that one finds another who is ready to expand. Very rare.
Douglas_St. Paul:  I have tried to drop the words “conclude” and “conclusion” from my vocabulary, as they are used in Steps as something premature that one is to avoid. “Surmise” or “infer” don’t have those connotations, and allow me to continue investigating. Oh, hello everyone!
Maria_Boulder:  Thank you for saying so MVS: “Therefore, do not just look for confirmation here, look for exploration. Confirmation affirms where you are. Exploration takes you further up the mountain.”(9:27AM)
Jangsun_Korea:  Thank you Marshall. “Confirmation affirms where you are. Exploration takes you further up the mountain.”
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Always though it is pointing the new message and the allies specifically that I start with. I always say that it will tell you everything you need to know.
MaryL_boulder:  Reading the revelation outloud is an experience of being with that is so different than just listening or reading. I can hear my voice and it reveals where I am with the words. If I can be with the words in a unified body, mind in a state of immersion it feels as if I can feel the strength, the encouragement and the power of the message coming through me. And if I cannot immerse myself totally I can feel and hear the weakness caused by doubt, uncertainty and fear. It requires a greater focus and determination to do the Deep Study Method…it cannot be undertaken in any other state other than full participation and dedication. Deep appreciation for Patricia’s sharing of this method…it is like being given a magnifying glass, a microscope and a compass to deepening our studenthood…to become more efficient in our study with the limited time we have.
Ed Southern Cal:  Comparing Knowledge to the Holy Spirit is useful – it gives my audience a reference, and lets them know that Knowledge is something they’re already familiar with.
Bonnie-California:  Ellen, I am interested in You Tube videos concerning visitation. In the blogs there are conversations about whether this is benevolent or malevolent. Sometimes I jump in with a quote from the Allies like this one, “You must not allow any alien force to set foot on the soil of this world without the express permission form the people of your world. You have these rights. You must exercise them.” Allies of Humanity, Book Two.
MVS Society:  Yes Alexandra, a big challenge at the beginning of real learning is mental weakness and the habit of being distracted. Here directing the mind rather than following its habits become essential for the mind to become a real tool—a window instead of a wall. This practice can be done anywhere and everywhere. It is leaning to be present and focused on what you are doing and what is going on around you rather than being adrift on a listless sea of influences.
Ed Southern Cal:  I do Tarot readings, and show the person I’m doing a reading for hardcopies of Steps to Knowledge and Life in the Universe.
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you, Kelvin. That really resonates.
Maria_Boulder:  @ Cameron- sounds like a beautiful experience with much Grace. I too have found that curbing my enthusiasm in my delivery can allow the message to land more gently
Paul_MA:  Taking this Message to others regarding Humanity’s emergence into the GC: The less information given to them the better… The more questions for them to ponder the better…and examples of human history of interventions such as the outcome of this country’s indigenous populations resulting from the European Intervention…these examples can open the door to further exploration..and direction to the Allies website, NM website as the final act…
Mike_LF_CAL:  @ED_SouthernCal, I sent you a PM…
Ed Southern Cal:  Yes Marshall, it can really be done anywhere. I’m at Step 108 now, and have performed many of the Steps at work.
justin-calif-!:  I could write a lot about that second question as I am out often giving out NM info and talking to people. I usually ask them what they know or think they know about the ET subject. this gives me a starting point. Then I talk about the “official evidence” government/military/NASA testimony, the physical, photographic evidence, etc- I get into the messages and how they were received slowly as many dismiss “channelled information” easily. Sometimes I have them read passages from the books and see if these passages speak to the individuals. So much depends on if the people are ready and able to go there-
Joyanne Canada:  Thats great Cameron, thank you for sharing your experience
Mike_LF_CAL:  How would you speak of the teaching Humanity’s Emergence into the Greater Community in sharing it with others who seem interested? I look for any interest in the GC as an “in” for relating my experience and then I would bring up the AOH briefings and if an opportunity presents itself I would share how the briefings came to be.
Maurice_Winnipeg:  Recently I have been patiently waiting to speak to the right persons who have had UFO contact as I have. If they pass the “Litmus” test then I open up with something relevant to their interests base on what Knowledge guides me to say to them. It’s very hard to describe the experience. It’s more like what Shawn has describe the experience.
Wendy, NY:  re how to talk to others about the teaching: Humanity’s Emergence into the The Greater Community. I just read Richard Dolan
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Inspiration is a natural by-product of selfless activity. It affects other minds. It leaves its impressions and has its impact. You need to receive this inspiration at the outset, and later you will need to give it to reinforce its reality. Inspiration is a reminder that you are a part of a greater life and a greater purpose, that you are not simply a human being whose only concern is for survival and self-gratification. This reminder is important, for humanity is preoccupied with survival and gratification, and you may have to look far and wide indeed to find those who feel a greater calling and a greater impetus in life. Those who do not feel this, who do not have this experience and who are not moved by it cannot go with you on your journey no matter how much you care for them personally. No matter what their wonderful attributes may be, they cannot journey with you, and you must realize this and accept it, or they will either intentionally or inadvertently spoil your inspiration….
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … They will become part of what holds you back rather than part of what inspires you. To choose that which is inexplicable but necessary is an act of courage and personal integrity. This is inspiring.” WGC2.29 Inspiration http://www.newmessage….ume-2
Joyanne Canada:  True Justin, so much depends upon the person’s readiness to go there.
Adria_Poland:  @Ellen At work there is a person especially interested in ET and all cosmic, mysterious phenomena. I have been breaching the subject at every occasion, introducing Alies’ perspective. I feel I should somehow give him the Life in The Universe book. Other than that, one thing that comes up in the subject of advocacy and sharing, I noticed it is most potent when I myself am grounded and strong with Knowledge, so that during the conversation I can keep clear focus and not be swayed, and to just let Knowledge be present and do its work. Also keyword for me is compassion: I listen to a person deeply and try to relate to them, discern what words/concepts would be best for them, and speak to them not from a position of teaching/informing or being agitated, but from understanding and companionship.
Alexandra_NL:  Thank you Marshall…
Ed Southern Cal:  @MVS I use a digital timer to beep every hour for the hourly practices. I just tell people I’m keeping track of the time when they ask me why my watch beeps.
Ellen_Society:  Thank you, Adria!
Shane – New Zealand:  @Ellen How would you speak of the teaching Humanity’s Emergence into the Greater Community in sharing it with others who seem interested? This certainly can be a challenge. I dont want people to believe or believe me. I wish for them to engage in the revelation. In a one on one situation, I try to spark their curiosity so that they are self motivated to explore. I have been guilty of oversharing in the past and this can sound like a crazy man and be a deterrent.
Ilhun_Korea:  Thank you, Marshall. “Confirmation affirms where you are. Exploration takes you further up the mountain.”
Kristina_Boulder:  For me it usually starts with a desire to read a chapter, I then decide which book I should read, then I look at the table of content and see what stands out for me. 90% of the time I pick just the right chapter that speaks to me that day, or to my present circumstances or sate of mind. It’s almost like magic. This method also works well if I have questions about something, either something in the NM or in my life.
Ed Southern Cal:  @Mike LF CAL – my pm isn’t working for some reason. It did earlier, but the box disappears when I click, “chat now.”
Wendy, NY:  Richard Dolan’s book AD Disclosure and his approach of saying – just suppose it happens this way, what would the impact of disclosure be… So I try to discuss by saying – just think about it. We don’t have to argue whether it is or not, but our minds have been so shut down and numbed that it can be worthwhile asking: what if?… And I’ve had a couple of good conversations with friends this way – have found a way in to discussing…
Greg_UK:  So if I may speak to what @Shawn and @Maurice describe, in my experience it is like you become a door to Knowledge in that you (your conscious mind) is literally swung out of the way and a powerful force overtakes you and speaks through the open portal which is left as your personal mind steps aside…?
Tonia_Denmark:  Hello Ellen, that question is not easy for me to answer, but it feels as if it is the brigde to the greater intelligence. One step of many moving towards Knowledge. I would choose a certain part of what I really relate to, and start from there, connecting certain expressions with expressions from the daily life. To present something new it would be important to keep a balance and to stay on the line with others, it would be like pointing from place to place to show where the understanding can be made. A map presented on top of the old one is easier understood, if new and old is connected. I am not sure how to put my words in this. Like sowing two pieces together, the words move from one to the other and back again
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Marshall ” a big challenge at the beginning of real learning is mental weakness and the habit of being distracted. Here directing the mind rather than following its habits become essential for the mind to become a real tool”
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Kristina That has worked for me too when I am feeling down or confused about something or when I just plain feel I need some inspiration.
manuel germany :):  How would you speak of the teaching Humanity’s Emergence into the Greater Community in sharing it with others who seem interested? – I would try to explain that as the physical universe is so vast and as there are over a billion, billion and more intelligent races, it is natural that all young races when they reach a point either of having exhausted their resources and/or are about to explore the universe (advanced in technology) that first resource explorers come to the shores of their world in order to gain influence to benefit of the resources. Further, the universe is a very competitive environment where resources and energy is always a requirement for survival, independently how technology advanced the race may be. So, further I would further explain that our region of space is well inhabited and commerce and trade well established. Thus the use of violence to conquer Earth are not allowed. So the Invaders who are here, are using similar strategies to gain the allegiance over…
manuel germany :):  … humanity: through deception and power in the mental environment. And: freedom is very rare in the universe and the 3 requirements for a race to maintain it are: 1) unity of the world through cooperation 2) self-sufficiency 3) discretion. And at the moment humanity does not fulfill not even 1 requirement. So in face of the Alien Threat humanity has to learn to cooperate and to unite more (to stop all the wars) and…
Adria_Poland:  Thank you, Marshall
Jorge_Spain:  As a translator and revisor, I need to read revelations many times. However, I need to free up my “translator/revisor mind” and set aside independent time for being able to study the revelation anew, which is not always easy. The mind is prone to learn the superficial form (finding a kind of comfort-zone understanding), but not so easily the essence and the challenge.
Debbie_MI:  @MVS-Thank you regarding “directing the mind rather than following its habits…” This is so important!
Arthur:  Instead of handing out answers I will try to stimulate wonder in others.
Rudy:  One thing I like to do without talking about the ET Presence or Greater Community, is that I like to look up at the sky/stars at night. If I am with someone who is visiting or somewhere with someone in the night, I just stop and look up and gaze. I do not have to say much, but just look up for several minutes. That act sometimes opens the window for conversation, even if it is just a few words about the possibility of life out there.
Patricia_Society:  @Alexandra 9:30 re “learning to learn”….yes, How is it that we learn? One just one level, the mental level, it is important to come to know how our minds associate, sort and how they work with new information/perspectives. Being a visual/kinetic learner, before delving deeper along various themes, topics, my mind first tends to need to step back “See” the larger context, the whole, to the extent possible. And yet being able to “catch” and sort the “nuggets of meaning” as they flow by (river of intention, the torrent of the NM), is another simultaneous need, it seems. Some concepts translate into images (both seemingly related to here and now, or future related) and feelings….The New Message is a multilevel/multimodal communication. It can impact us on many levels and pluck deep cords, many of them not intellectual per se…This can make it challenging for our minds who are charged to think, but who also feel, and see…..
MaryL_boulder:  @Mark, yes asking them questions is a good lead. It sets up a relationship of sharing starting with them rather than using them as a prop for your spiel. In college there was a minister/preacher who stood up above the crowd of students every day shouting out his Christian beliefs while student just walk past the noise, never stopping or looking up. I still see him as I used to watch and wonder to myself “how is this working?”
Hyeonam_Korea:  Resonating with you Adria! Thank you.
Raoul_Australia:  When I speak of the teaching Humanity’s Emergence into the Greater Community with others who seem interested, I relate it to things that are visibly happening, like the dissemination of misleading spiritual teachings from presumed ET sources – people often ask for facts, and that is something that can be seen.
Adria_Poland:  @Kristina_B Thanks for sharing that about Provoking Change, powerful inspiration.
Ed Southern Cal:  @MVS – I love Step 100. I had just completed it when I facilitated my last session. I read it to my audience. They got a big kick out of it.
Ilhun_Korea:  Thank you, Marshall. “It is leaning to be present and focused on what you are doing and what is going on around you rather than being adrift on a listless sea of influences.”
Martin_Australia:  One of the aspects of the revelation I looked at is the musts. Such as: “you must face the boundaries that life and nature create.”, “you must have a sense of what you are preparing for, and you must begin to realize your own responsibilities here on Earth”, “This must be provided to you from a greater revelation”, “This revelation must come for humanities well-being”, “humanity must know that it has possible friends in the universe”, “you must care for this world, that you must create a sustainable existence”, and many other musts contained in this revelation that are such important directives.
mellany UK:  I do a deep listening of a Revelation, first thing, most mornings. I flick through my play list and see what calls to me, or I’ll select one that ties in with my Step for that day. I’ve found that it’s a powerful way to start my day…and it’s helping me stay internally engaged with NMG.
carolyn-ct:  An interesting note. A few weeks ago, the US Airforce announced the existence of a space fleet, under their command. It was barely noticed, picked up by a few news organizations. But no follow up that I have seen. An interesting way to step around disclosure. Or lay the groundwork for it.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @ Adria…resonating with what you have said! Thank you!
Cameron_Canada:  @Ed – I also have a timer. I used to have it say Nasi Novare Coram. I was amazed by how many people would make some kind of face, recognizing that they heard it, but very, very few ever asked what is was for of what it meant.
Paul_MA:  Step 259-” I Have Come To Teach In The World.”
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Thank you Martin!
Ed Southern Cal:  I’m finding needless activities dropping away since I’ve focused on the Steps. Some things I like to do are hard to juggle with the practice, but I’ll fix that in the near future.
Maureen_Boulder:  In response to the second question, I would speak to the strength that will be required of us in the future and how important it will be to find it.
This quote stood out for me in Humanity’s Emergence into the Greater Community. “People will lose hope in the face of the Great Waves of change. They will lose hope and self-confidence in the face of the Greater Community. They will lose hope, not because they do not have the strength, but because they do not realize they have the strength to face these great and formidable obstacles that all races in life will encounter sooner or later.”
I was recently on Step 244 , “I am honored when others are strong. “ And when I am strong, they are honored. I see a subtle but very powerful clue in this step that speaks to how to grow Knowledge in the world. “In this way (being strong) Knowledge affirms itself in the world, where Knowledge has been forgotten.” To me this says when I am strong, it makes life a little easier for others to be in the…

Maureen_Boulder:  … world because there is a little more Knowledge and a little less Separation.

I want to remember when I am facing “great and formidable obstacles” that I do have the strength to face them and when I do, life will become a little easier for everyone because there will be a little more Knowledge in the world. I support Knowledge in you and you support Knowledge in me and in this way we make our way out of Separation. What is complex becomes simple. It does away with competition and war and builds relationship instead of creating conflict. Imagine.
I was in such awe and gratitude while contemplating the sheer power and intellect behind the mechanism that set this in motion and that tracks and “affirms” the strength of 7 billion people and beyond. I see and am moved by the love and forgiveness in it because it doesn’t single out the saints from the sinners. This all happens even when we are not aware of it. Truly, we are “loved, surrounded and supported by the Teachers of God.”

nenette_istanbul:  Greetings Everyone  Missed everyone and now I’m late  ”So sorry”…my cooking, preparing, cleaning in Stillness 
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Ed_SouthernCal, send me the time and location of your meeting today, I’ll see if I can make it, [email protected] or I’ll send you my number.
Ed Southern Cal:  @nenette Nasi Novare Coram
Joyanne Canada:  @Mellany– I too look and wait for direction within on which Revelation to listen to .. sometimes I make a playlist of an area with many revelations to listen to throughout the day.. Loving my wireless earphones with my sd card? I find I can concentrate on one area.better with many revelations on it. Ie: Greater Community.

LaRaeUK:  I have many approaches, but I like using this quote from Stephen Hawkings….as it lends itself to the existence of the Greater Community: The project will not broadcast signals into space, because scientists on the project believe humans have more to gain from simply listening out for others. Hawking, however, warned against shouting into the cosmos, because some advanced alien civilisations might possess the same violent, aggressive and genocidal traits found among humans.

“A civilisation reading one of our messages could be billions of years ahead of us. If so they will be vastly more powerful and may not see us as any more valuable than we see bacteria,” he said.

Paul_MA:  Carolyn–yes i noticed that too…..For those watching, that disclosure did not escape them.
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you MVS and Alexandra. Learning to learn is such a challenge for me as well and your words, MVS, “directing the mind rather than following its habits become essential for the mind to become a real tool—a window instead of a wall.” are very impactful.
Joyanne Canada:  @Maureen love that Little more Knowledge, less Separation 
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Wendy, NY (8:45) that’s an excellent point! Thanks for sharing.
support:  @nenette, no worries, we have another hour for those wishing to remain.
Kristina_Boulder:  Thank you Maureen.
Greg_UK:  @Carolyn_ct Yes the SSP is slowly being disclosed. Look for terms such as Solar Warden which was the earliest iteration of the fleet designed by William Tompkins.
Tonia_Denmark:  Maybe I have misunderstood the question, but presenting the teaching would be a challenge for me
Debbie_Plano:  Yes, Mark, asking questions seems to open their thinking in a different way instead of just stating facts to them. It is a subtle way of respecting them so they understand that you want to hear their opinion. It also gives us insight, depending on their answer, whether there is any need to go any further. And of course accepting them and where they are no matter what their answers are.
nenette_istanbul:  @support WOW  Thanks
Cole_Boulder:  In one-on-one conversations, something I have been doing is normalizing certain ideas and terms, bringing them up in passing as if they are already common sense – terms like “mental environment”, “extraterrestrial life / intervention” etc. I haven’t broached the GC topic with many people the past year, but learning to listen and discern has been important, knowing when not to speak – and learning also to ask deeper questions and be present to another’s condition so something real can be communicated, beyond just ideas.
MaryL_boulder:  @Cameron: “I found it useful to limit the quantity of information I provided as well as (when possible) my enthusiasm. With a teaching of this magnitude, it is wise to go softly and allow not my experience to colour the experience of others.” I find it necessary (after much attempts and failing” to limit my words and energy when I feel there is an opening. The NMFG can be like drinking from a fire hose and people cannot take much. Of course there may be exceptions of those who are ready, open and oh so hungry for the spiritual feast that the NMFG offers.
Greg_UK:  I have work so unfortunately I miss the ‘best’ hour
Ilhun_Korea:  Thank you, Patricia. “The New Message is a multilevel/multimodal communication.”, “nuggets of meaning” as they flow by (river of intention, the torrent of the NM)” …
Joyanne Canada:  very wise and true MaryL, I too have learnt over time..less is more sometimes
Maria_Boulder:  @ Adria- I love what you shared(9:43)…listening to them deeply…similarly I have found that it is important for me to remember that all I may have to share is not what is important- but what may this person be needing at this moment, or ready to receive, or curious about? Not that I am so astute as to necessarily know this about them, but asking the question takes me out of having an agenda, and brings me closer to making real contact/serving… The conversation is not about me!
LaRaeUK:  Yes, resonating with the MaryL.
MVS Society:  When I talk to people out in the world about the NMG, the GW’s or the GC, I focus on leaving something specific and beneficial that can stay in their minds such as a short quote, a challenging idea or question or an image. What stays in the mind is what is important to me as a communicator.
Adria_Poland:  @Maureen, thank you.
Joyanne Canada:  thank you MVS
Susan_Malaysia:  Thank you Maureen for Step 244 which I am on …
LaRaeUK:  Thank you MVS……that sounds potent.
JeffreyA_Boulder:  When speaking about the GC I point to the opportunity this is for humanity to unite around this most challenging threshold ever.
Ed Southern Cal:  @Mike I just sent it. There’s a flyer attached with the details.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Patricia and Maureen. Much to learn from with what you have both said!
Levy_Brazil:  Thanks, Marshall!
Martin_Australia:  @Mellany, yes, I also see what revelation calls to me each day and look for one that might relate to my current Step and step in life. I find that it can often translate into advocacy as well.
Ed Southern Cal:  Marshall, Patricia, and Reed – THANK YOU!!! I’m having incredible experiences as I disseminate the Steps to the public. I can’t describe them all.
Douglas_St. Paul:  Many earlier intuitions about the Greater Community have been confirmed by scientific discovery.
Dariel_Boulder:  Yes, Jorge. I remember Dar giving thanks to just be able to engage with TOG as a gift from Heaven rather than as an editor. As a proofer I have the same problem and I must approach the book from an open and grateful position of reception. I am very grateful for Patricia’s gift of ‘deep reading’ as this can take us to those deeper places of reception.
Cole_Boulder:  Thank you for that insight Marshall, I will remember this.
Richmond_UK:  I always look to see where the person I’m potentially going to speak to is ‘at,’ as to which part of the NM and/or allies material I might share. Sometimes, I it’s a ‘yes’ but I feel restraint with many people.
Ilhun_Korea:  @MVS: Thank you for your Wisdom. “… I focus on leaving something specific and beneficial that can stay in their minds … “
Cameron_Canada:  @MaryL – I love the drinking from a fire hose analogy. It is easy to blast ones head off quickly.
manuel germany :):  Short message is good: “Technology does not free a race from requiring resources. The universe is a highly competitive environment. The Alien “visitors” who are here because they need resources.”
Ed Southern Cal:  I hate to take things off-topic, but I’m having contact with the Galactic Federation of Light. I’m checking out their videos, and a lot of people in my metaphysical community are into them. I’m trying to convey the NMFG and the importance of the Declaration of Human Sovereignty to them, but I need more information on the Federation. Does anyone know of a good source? Thanks.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @carolyn-ct:, (8:50), thanks for that news note, I missed it too.
Will_Society:  Let us take a moment in stillness together as the hour strikes.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Step 217-for every moment you spend in experiencing stillness or engaging your mind meaningfully, Knowledge becomes stronger and ever more present within you. You may wonder, “What is my gift to the world?” Your gift is what you receive here today. Give yourself to Knowledge so that it may give itself to you.” This step is with me all the time within my mind.
mellany UK:  Thanks, Joy. I like the idea of wireless earphones!
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “The person who has a deep conviction and a deep sense of belief will exert a greater influence than someone who is only entertaining or considering an idea.” WGC2.12 http://www.newmessage….nment
Tonia_Denmark:  MaryL, resonating with your words. It just gets too much when pouring a bucket of NMFG on an innocent individual and they pull away. Little by little we hopefully learn to present this teaching in a proper way.
Debbie_Plano:  Thank you, Marshall. Those are such wonderful insights that I can work with and use daily.
Maria_Boulder:  @ Jeffrey,(9:56) I also like to balance the dire news with the great news that this time also offers us our greatest opportunity. I myself can only take in dark news in small increments before I am tempted to disassociate…so I have compassion for how what I am pointing to may effect this person. Them shutting off will not be helpful- that is what we already have too much of.
MaryL_boulder:  @Rudy, lots of opportunity during the solar eclipse…people looking up
carolyn-ct:  LOL Tonia. That’s precious! A bucket of NMFG. Good advice too.
Ed Southern Cal:  @Mary @Rudy. I’m getting excited about the eclipse now. I have synchronistic experiences with them.
Lin_Boulder:  @Ellen, during the outreach effort, over time I realized that Chinese people might not appeal to God, but many of them are searching for the meaning of life or life purpose. So when I do advocacy I often find quotes in a revelation speaking to the greater purpose, and let it call for people’s deeper response and responsibility to the GC or GW.
MVS Society:  Whether people agree with me or resonate with me or not, I want them to remember me and what I shared with them. Here my message has to be very short and pithy like planting a seed. When people resonate with me in the moment, it does not mean they are ready or will do anything with what I give them. I just plant a seed or two of wisdom and move on. This way I can reach lots of people and not be attached to who can respond or suffer over the lack of response. I have a world to reach, so this is necessary.

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Ed Southern Cal:  @Mary @Rudy – I don’t even need to be in the path of totality, but I may head up to it.
Betty_UK:  The methodology practice – I’ve been listening to the core revelation of this month’s school session, and copied into a word doc. the passages that jumped out. When I have the time I would read it again, and see if there are any questions that are coming up, also for me these questions usually give me something to explore further, to look into. I would ask myself the question, but would look for the answer in the revelation or contemplate the question(s), sometimes it leads me to something else that, I perhaps didn’t recognised the first time, so I’d explore that (new realization further). And make notes. Thank you for what you said Marshall @ (9:27). It seemed something that would naturally happen but didn’t realise until now, but I’ll pay more attention to what you said.
Adria_Poland:  @Maureen – once more, moved deeply by what you wrote. I want to have this great hope and great belief and great strenght to be strong in the face of anything, and to know there will be others who are strong, so that the work and spirit are shared. Day-to-day, I forget about all potential distasters, how the world may look, the outstripped resources, shortages of water, food, air, but when I do remember, I am struck with dread. Coming here, to the Chats, engagaging actively in my Practice, honouring the Presence and all who have given their gifts unlocks within me this seemingly unedning strength and somehow, I look to the future with strong hope, this bright outcome possible.
Levy_Brazil:  @Ed, the Allies reveal to us there’s no GFL or government in space, except groups that have signed trade/commercial agreements. Check out the 3 books at
Kari_H_Finland:  Thank you Messenger for reminding of the power of planting seeds into the minds of people
Greg_UK:  OK sigh I have to leave you all again. Love to you Marshal and Patricia and Reed, Society and all students on Earth and beyond in the GC. NNC
manuel germany :):  Short and beneficial message: “The Alien Threat is a great chance for humanity to unite” – “As violence is not allowed in this region of space, only enough people have to say publicly NO to the Alien Intervention”
Ed Southern Cal:  @Tyyne: Glad to hear about Kickstarter. I’ve funded projects in the past. I’ll make a contribution this weekend.
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you, Will. It feels good to pause.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Maureen (8:51), VERY powerful!!!! Thanks for sharing.
Tyyne_Society:  Here is the link to become a Pillar of the NM: http://www.newmessage….ssage
Virgie_near Seattle:  @Rudy–thank you for sharing about looking at the stars. I was wondering about conversations on the GC that students may have had with people who are not actively researching ufology. Fascination with the stars is perhaps universal …
Joe_UK:  Thanks to this School session I noticed my awareness of the Greater Community led me to be more open to this perspective durin conversation. When I happened to be meet a school boy who was showing me comics he was making, I was moved to inquire more about them. I discovered that they were about him and his friends, the heroes, who were resisting alien races. I feel he must have a Greater Community awareness and know to give him a copy of Life in the Universe when the time is right.
Rudy:  If anyone is planning to view the solar eclipse, I encourage you to wear the proper eye wear.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  I sometime imagine what it will be like in a world where it is known as clearly as grass is green that there is a greater community….how this will change everything, tempering the arrogant and augmenting the wise. What I search for when studying this revelation is a “down to the bones” understanding of the situation. To know it as my own skin. To embody it. Recognize and realize it so as to make the necessary judgement call of who to speak to and what to say second nature.
Kristina_Boulder:  @Ellen, I usually wait to speak to people about the GC. Either wait until they start talking about it and then I can share my perspective, or when they start asking me questions based on what I’m reading or posts that I’m posting or if I see in someones eyes that they have GC connection. But I’m always waiting for an opening, because people are usually are scared to talk about this kind of things. I work in mental health and some people had “delusions” of being abducted. How can you say to psychiatrist or your coworkers that this might not be a delusion, but reality? This is very touchy situation as I feel in this country people who believe in UFO are automatically labeled “crazy” or “strange”. and most of the time people are very uncomfortable getting into this kind of conversations.
Tyyne_Society:  Thank you, Ed. You and so many others have made this possible.
Greg_UK:  Yes Tyyne We’ve met our initial goal in Kickstarter! https://www.kickstarte…=card Thank you to all who got involved in making it a success. We encourage you to continue financially supporting this effort through Kickstarter or the Greater Community campaign https://newknowledgeli…8194. Everyone who can please support the Kickstarter, its a super-safe giving environment. 
Ed Southern Cal:  @Levy: I’m aware of that Levy – I read the Briefings. Then they’re a trade consortium fronting as a government…
carolyn-ct:  Thank you MVS. That is truly ‘Marshall Art’ in action. Efficient, yet powerful and direct, most potent.

Alison_Boulder:  ALL ~ Here’s how you can help in Advocacy to support the Messenger and Society this week. Add a comment to the Kickstarter Project (https://www.kickstarte…j9g5r ) and continue to share the Greater Community Campaign with others. (http://www.newmessage….paign)

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Shane – New Zealand:  I would be interested to know what results the polls that were done re Human Sovereignty showed? If anyone can share.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @LaRaeUK, (8:52), ABSOLUTELY!!!!
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @MVS Thank you I always liked that “planting a seed” in meeting people.
Ellen_Society:  @Shane, can you explain what you mean? I don’t understand.
Levy_Brazil:  @Ed, “join us in our magnificent civilization” translates to “join our resource acquisition network and become a slave”.
Betty_UK:  Hi Ellen, 2nd question- if someone seems more interested, I’d just give them more NM or Allies material to explore for themselves.
Ed Southern Cal:  @Levy – Do you have any specific information about them? They’re pretty entrenched.
Adria_Poland:  @Kristina_B Good point, it is still regarded as not very “professional” subject – but for all those people who decline the idea of extraterrestial life, it doesn’t change the fact that the Intervention is here, together with the GWC…
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Ed Southern Cal:  @Levy I don’t plan on being a galactic slave…
Raoul_Australia:  Thank you Marshall: “…This way I can reach lots of people and not be attached to who can respond or suffer over the lack of response.” This for me has been an important thing to learn over the years because remaining attached to people and their responses can take us on an ’emotional roller-coaster ride’ that can really drain the energy that can be dedicated to further outreach.
Jeanne_Boulder:  Nasi Novare Coram
Alison_Boulder:  Shane do you mean the Facebook polls?
Shane – New Zealand:  @Ellen A number of advocates setup polls with questions regarding human sovereignty and the declaration. I am interested if anything was observed from the responses.
Ed Southern Cal:  @Mike LF CAL – did you get the flyer?
mellany UK:  I’ve spoken to so many people over the years … yet, I’m struggling to answer this question. I don’t have a set approach … I listen to the person, try to get an idea of where they’re at and what there perceptions, interests, hopes, fears are … then I speak to these, recalling what I’ve learned from the Allies and NMG … my main objective being to try to get them to look at The Revelation, so they can engage, and have their own experience.
Patricia_Society:  @Adria- thank you…Deep listening…..the experience of Deep Listening is such a powerful and compassionate contribution to bring to communication and any engagement with anyone…A very slow form of Deep Listening that I have been practicing is listening/hearing what others are saying in 3-word segments, just as they speak….Listening for the most prominent “marker words” that begin the sequence…Listening for the words in their communication that really matter, that form their communication……I need to hear them….This is one way to experience relationship…Thank you all sincerely for your studenthood via our Greater Community/New Message education, and for your advocacy that Knowledge and Wisdom be invited into ours and others decisions, into ours and others work focus, into our interactions, and direct setting…Be well…It is a privilege to help build this Free School environment with you all…..
Tyyne_Society:  Thanks for the endorsement, Greg. The Kickstarter campaign brought our world outreach efforts to a new arena and it’s great to see that the goal is met and this new book of Volume 1 will be fully funded for publishing. And for the long term needs of the NM, the Pillars remain an important foundation into the future. Pillars are absolutely structural. Thank you everyone!
Shane – New Zealand:  @Alison. Yes, thanks
Howard Boulder:  good to be with you all, NNC
Ellen_Society:  From LIVING THE WAY…page 93:
“When people oppose the Way of Knowledge, they are not able to go away from it because they are attracted to it. But they are not able to give themselves to it, either, so they have only one alternative left, which is to fight it. This is strange because if it were not right for them, they could simply walk away. But they cannot walk away. They want it and they don’t want it. They are drawn to it, but they will not let themselves have it. They need it, but they don’t want to need it. They do not want to deal with what it means. What it means is that they have been sent here for a purpose, this purpose is calling upon them and they need to respond.”
manuel germany :):  @Levy: “join us in our magnificent civilization” translates to “join our resource acquisition network and become a slave” – fully agree with that – it has got the signature of the Intervention. You are really an expert 
Tonia_Denmark:  Shane, haven’t made it there to share yet. I am thinking about how to approach a share in public. But it needs consideration and a carefully picked method I thinkø
Kristina_Boulder:  @Adria, I know. When I moved to US, I was told not to talk about God, religion, politics or UFO. All the subjects Russian’s love talking about and do talk/debate about. I see how talking about it might create heated conversations, but at the same time, this can be good and beneficial, people get to practice talking about their point of views.
Hyeonam_Korea:  Thank you Marshall. I will try to follow your method as a communicator.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Tonia_Denmark, (8:53), that’s understandable but you forgot who has your back Kn!
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Marshall…the most important thing to me in advocating is planting a seed. each seed planted is different for the soil is different. To be able to plant this seed using compassion and wisdom is what I need to learn. This is where my errors can be of great benefit.
Rudy:  Than you for the quote, Ellen. Very important. Thank you and Will for leading us through this chat as well.
Ed Southern Cal:  @Levy @Manuel – Very witty, Levy. I chuckled over that one myself.
Betty_UK:  @Ellen, I had someone who seen a video scr re the GC, and didn’t believe in God, so what was in the video couldn’t happen. I’ve just explained, that we can’t deny that we are living in a planet, in the universe, it is impossible that we are the only intelligent life in the universe with billions and billions of galaxies.
Ellen_Society:  Thank you, Betty.
Alison_Boulder:  @Shane, my observation after only seeing Nm Student yes answers is that the question needs to be more basic, without required reading first. Then lead into our points in the comments. Maybe first “Do you believe Earth belongs to the human race?”
Ed Southern Cal:  It’s hard to convince people that they actually have to take tangible action due to the ET presence.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Ellen for that! How so true that is!
Kari_H_Finland:  Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram.
Adria_Poland:  @Kristina – haha. And I agree, we have to breach this subject anyway. I look up to Reed and his remarkable, professional approach, how he talks with sincerity, conviction, wisdom about any subject.
Ed Southern Cal:  A lot of folks think that they’ll be handing out free ice cream until the end of eternity.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “When people share The Way of Knowledge with others, often they are shocked to find that people are not as open as they thought they were. They are shocked to find that people are resistant or concerned or anxious or uncomfortable. If this Teaching were not great and comprehensive, there would not be this response. But because it is real and substantive, the recipient has only three choices in how they can respond: They can go towards the Teaching, they can go away from it or they can fight against it. In the face of Knowledge, the mind can only do one of these three things. A few come forward, a few fight, and most try to find escape. This reveals people’s general position in life, regardless of the impression that they try to make to the contrary.
You will find that some people who appear very certain, very self-satisfied and very strong and willful will fade quickly in the presence of Knowledge. You will find, perhaps, others who seem weak, humble and unassuming to be able to assume…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … the great preparation that is being offered here. Here sometimes it seems that the strong are really weak, and the weak are really strong. “…. ” Do not judge. Just watch and see. Those who will be able to begin to study The Way of Knowledge and to begin to build a foundation of Knowledge within their life will come forward sooner or later, for there is nowhere else for them to go.” … “Do not be shocked or ashamed when others reject or deny your gift. Understand what you are really offering them. You are offering them the ultimate challenge. You are offering them a confrontation with themselves. ” …. “Someone presented The Way of Knowledge to you. Present The Way of Knowledge to someone else. You cannot determine how they will respond, and how they will respond has more to do with what you are offering than with you yourself, particularly if you are humble in your presentation ….” Sharing the Way of Knowledge With Others …
Tonia_Denmark:  Mike, thank you for the reminder. Very important, but at the moment, I am learning about the difference between “I want what I want”- you know a strong will……and listening to the guiding inside from the teachers
Debbie_MI:  @MVS-Thank you for sharing your experience in advocacy, planting seeds, and not getting overly attached to outcome.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Ed, thanks Ed!
manuel germany :):  @thanks Mel for sharing your experience how to approach people to the GC subject. I relate to that: “…my main objective being to try to get them to look at The Revelation, so they can engage, and have their own experience”
MaryS_Boulder:  All this time I thought it was the mysterious power of the Messenger that made conversations with him so memorable. On the other hand, when he teaches on broadcasts, I have to go back and listen deeply, repeatedly, because of bestial stupidity.
Ed Southern Cal:  @rayhobbs Colorado – BRAVO!!
Martin_Australia:  @Alison, I was thinking the same, starting at that level, as there are people who don’t consider humanity as the native race or who think that the world is owned by another race
Shane – New Zealand:  Thanks Alison. It is concerning that Human sovereignty rarely is discussed in relation to interactions with Ets. It is not something that people are really thinking about. People seem to be seeing and hearing what they want to see/hear and the truth is what they wish to hear.
Shane – New Zealand:  is not what they wish to hear
Kristina_Boulder:  @Adria, yes. The best advocate is person who is knowledgable about what he is talking about and even better if that person bases his knowledge on experience, because then your message has totally different power.
Kelvin_Colorado:  “You have power. You have skills. You have wisdom. No one else can live in your world. It is biologically too complex for them. They need you. They need your cooperation. They need you to submit to them, willingly. They need to erode your self-confidence so that you feel you cannot resist them. They need you to deplete your resources so that you will become dependent upon them.”
Joyanne Canada:  I was just listening to that Kelvin, from the Importance of the Greater Community, it struck me also..
Adria_Poland:  Thank you so much Patricia and Society for sharing the Deep Study Methodology. As Wendy earlier in the Chat mentioned, given the amount of material in the New Message, with the Deep Study tool it can become a life project, and the gifts acquired from such honest practice are many, long lasting and precious.
MaryL_boulder:  @Kelvin: those words alone could wake people out of their despair or pacification of helplessness “You have power. You have skills. You have wisdom. No one else can live in your world. It is biologically too complex for them. They need you.”
Ellen_Society:  In my experience of sharing this Message: Responding to emails, questions and even accusations is a training and a blessing for us. It is a challenge to us to open our hearts wider and wider. It teaches us just how hard it is for a person to accept a whole new paradigm. And we must reach those people, one at a time, so that the New Message can spread over the world.
In taking on this sacred work, we do our part in assisting this process.
manuel germany :):  @rayhobbs_Colorado thank you for sharing so much wisdom with us.
Tonia_Denmark:  Basic rights for a human are not easy to find at all on danish websites. Those keys are well hidden.
Joyanne Canada:  so true Ellen, we learn each time we respond how to respond
Ed Southern Cal:  @Mike: See you at 2.
Arthur:  I have only once tried to share a GC perspective with someone and that ended in ridicule. After that I stopped sharing what I know with others regarding the GC. I am not wasting my time on people who won’t appreciate what I am offering. And also I fear that if I share too much they will come back for more, something that I don’t want to be responsible for.
LaRaeUK:  Thank you Ellen. I have seen that reaction in people.
Alisa_Russia:  I will return and read this Chat tomorrow. Thank you everyone who has shared their experience with the Deep Study Methodology. This is something I still need to delve into.
Ed Southern Cal:  Glad I popped in this morning. I need to finish prepping for my workshop. Nasi Novare Coram
MVS Society:  Seed example as a GC open-ended question: “what would you do if you found out that the world is being visited?” Give them the Allies website. This only takes a moment to give to someone and many would not forget that question.
Hardev Australia:  Thank you Ellen, I find reaching those people, one at a time, to be most effective.
Debbie_MI:  @Ellen-Yes, it truly is a learning curve and it does teach us “to open our hearts wider and wider”.
Jos_Netherlands:  Thank you Ellen
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Thank you Marshall.
Ilhun_Korea:  @Ellen, Thank you for your Contribution…
Joyanne Canada:  thank you MVS, its a question that needs contemplation by the person receiving it
nenette_istanbul:  @Ellen : True…experiencing that, i need to cultivate patience in answering…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “In this part of the Greater Community, there is no ruling world or ruling body. There is no center of government. There is only a center of trade between participating nations. This is a great federation, but its primary purpose is to maintain trade. What goes on outside the jurisdiction of this trade is anybody’s business. Within the established areas and parameters of trade, there are ruling guidelines for behavior. But this government of commerce, as you could call it, does not interfere in internal affairs. Only if one world is threatening another militarily can there be any possibility of intervention, but this is very rare. Worlds are far too distant from each other to enforce uniformity. Races are far too different from each other to have common values. There are certain ethical principles that are established for the convenience of interacting with other worlds within a general area. These are more like codes of ethics in order to preserve peace. One of the codes of ethics is…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … the preservation of all biological environments. This holds true in the region in which your world exists. It is enforced for practical and expedient reasons.” WGC2.28 Greater Community Realities http://www.newmessage….ume-2
Ed Southern Cal:  @MVS: I show workshop attendees the home page during the discussion. Thank you.
Jos_Netherlands:  Good idea Marshall
Mike_LF_CAL:  I will be with my daughter in Oregon to experience totality, my first!
LaRaeUK:  Brilliant MVS…..
MaryL_boulder:  @Rayhobbs: others who seem weak, humble and unassuming to be able to assume
… the great preparation that is being offered here. Here sometimes it seems that the strong are really weak, and the weak are really strong.” Now we have to be strong, confident in and from Knowledge and assume our roles as a demonstration of what it is to be true students of Knowledge. Time to unlearn the unnatural ways we have had to assume to be acceptable in the world.
Raoul_Australia:  @Ellen, thank you, it truly is a training and a blessing. A good opportunity to tap into is the interaction in our AOH forum (http://alliesofhumanit…orum/), I hope more NM students will join and participate.
Corey:MedicineHat:  I was travelling for work this week and was on a 3 hour road trip home with one of my brothers. At times like this when we are alone and with some time to kill he opens up & starts asking me questions & is very interested in what I am learning & practicing. I find this to be somewhat of a dilemma because he wants to learn about it through me rather than reading anything for himself. I have not finished STK for the first time yet (I have an admittedly long path up the mountain still) & I know that I still bring in my own perspective/opinions to certain questions he asks specifically about either Aliens or God. When I catch myself trying to explain something he asks about I realize I must just stop & I do. I find that when I allow him to ask all the questions during this time he actually becomes kind of like a judge and jury with what I am telling him. I have found it very helpful to attempt to reflect the questions he asks back on him first to see where his foundation is at with that…
Corey:MedicineHat:  … question he asks so that when I present my response it gives him clarity between his current understating and what the NMG or Allies teaches. He seems to consider it more that way.
Will_Society:  Thank you, Marshall. That keeps it simple. That brings the person right to the Allies without either standing in the way or losing a lot of time or inspiration as an advocate.
nenette_istanbul:  Thank You @Marshall .: ” “what would you do if you found out that the world is being visited?” Give them the Allies website. This only takes a moment to give to someone and many would not forget that question.”
mellany UK:  Thank you, Marshall. True, Will!
Cameron_Canada:  I am thinking back to a month or so ago, I paraphrase, When you want to act it is sometimes best to hold and build the power. When you do not want to act, this is something that should be addressed in a timely manor.
Adria_Poland:  Thank you Marshall for your teachings and for being with us.
Hardev Australia:  Thank you for the link Raoul. I look forward to Norio Hayakawa discourse I noticed there.
Levy_Brazil:  In an UFO conference last weekend, had a chance of having a healthy conversation with 3 people, while I was presenting the Allies perspective in every turn. A few minutes in, in regards to the reality of competition in the universe and how freedom is rare and hard-earned, one of them said, “so you are saying the universe is messed up, really, no?”, to which I said, “yes! You got it!”. I’ll use that phrase again.
Ilhun_Korea:  @MVS: Thank you for the seeding question. “what would you do if you found out that the world is being visited?”
Arthur:  To summarize: Why should I help this world. Been struggling with that for awhile..
Tonia_Denmark:  Interesting, Marshall, thank you. I often think about just this question
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @manuel germany ” Do not make the Messenger your controversy. Make your own response to the Message the controversy. Your controversy is your indecision about whether you will be a real and honest person, and your investment in those things that take you away from this and what it has cost you and what you are going to do about it. ” Facing the Light of Revelation http://www.newmessage….ation
Richmond_UK:  Thanks Marshall.
Raoul_Australia:  @Hardev, yes, that was good news to see another new member!
MVS Society:  I will try and reach all who can be reached, which is never certain in the first contact. To everyone else, I will leave a pebble in their shoe.
Betty_UK:  Thanks Marshall
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur “…acknowledge your ignorance without self-condemnation.” The New Message
Joyanne Canada:  :-))) @ MVS, hurts to walk with a pebble, it keeps your mind on it..:-))
Debbie_Plano:  Excellent question, Marshall! “what would you do if you found out that the world is being visited?” Give them the Allies website. That will be easy for us to use even on Facebook and Twitter. Thank you!
Samantha_South Africa:  Thank you MVS for your advice on talking to people about the NM and the GC… This has opened by eyes as to how I can approach people differently in the future… I really appreciate it.
Will_Society:  When I was younger, family and friends used to question me for hours about the New Message and the Allies. It was entertainment, or a personal connect, or an evaluation/judgment, but I learned it was never a serious interest in the New Message itself. It used to leave me feeling a bit misused and exposed. It took me a while to become brief in my explanations, looking for genuine interest and pointing people to the Revelations themselves.
DavidD_Mtl:  Thanks for sharing Will
Levy_Brazil:  Thanks for sharing your wisdom, Will
Jos_Netherlands:  Thank you Marshall. Most uncomfortable, a pebble in your shoe.
Corey:MedicineHat:  Resonating Will thank you
Debbie_MI:  Thanks Marshall-I like the “will leave a pebble in their shoe” idea!
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Will!
Ken_Oklahoma:  I have had extended “on line” conversations with a few individuals say that they are being guided and directed by ETs. It is a reminder of how many are controlled and are very active on face book….the Galactic Federation is one of many fictitious entities posing as our allies.
manuel germany :):  Posing a question is even better than an affirmation: “How would you react if a world politician would confirm that the UFO / ET phenomena are true?” (many nations like the UK, Brazil, France etc. acknowledges this and have made partial disclosure. With respect to the politicians: this already have occurred several times (Medvedev, Paul Hellyer/former Canadian prime minister) etc. etc.
Alisa_Russia:  I find it very hard to share with people because for me it is such a highly personal experience and I find it hard to articulate. I know what I’m talking about, but when I try to explain to others I feel it sounds unconvincing. It has to felt at a deeper level.
Maria_Boulder:  Thank you Will…points to some self care in this as well…
Arthur:  @rayhobbs I need a driving force, don’t wish to sound inhumane but the suffering of this world is not enough.
Joyanne Canada:  @Arthur, why shouldn’t you?, and who will if you won’t. responsibility is the ability to respond, for me the question is if not me then who? and I feel deep within I just have to respond
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur “You have come here to do something. If you do not do it, you will feel very confused and frustrated. This is difficult to comprehend because you tend to blame your circumstances for this frustration. You have not become engaged with your Self, and that is what is making you upset. It is not because people do not understand you or things are not going your way.” The New Message
Reed_Society:  @Corey thank you for sharing your experience and insight here: “I have found it very helpful to attempt to reflect the questions he asks back on him first to see where his foundation is at with that question he asks so that when I present my response it gives him clarity between his current understating and what the NMG or Allies teaches. He seems to consider it more that way.”
Lin_Boulder:  @Will, so true! I keep in mind that 2% of population is ready for this, just spread the NM as widely as possible.
Raoul_Australia:  Thank you for sharing that, Will, I have felt in a similar way…one of my neighbours used to ask about the NM and AOH and i used to have high hopes but now, 7 years later he is still ‘going around in circles’ on the subject.
Jansett_KY:  @Corey:MedicineHat, I feel you’ve made an important observation about an experience I’m sure many of us have encountered (similar to what Will just posted): those who want to learn from you rather than taking on the journey themselves. Your response is stellar and certainly plants seeds deep in the soul even if the outer mind doesn’t retain what you’ve said.
Tonia_Denmark:  Hmm resonating, Will. A bit like when an individual introduce themselves and asks me for lots of how d
MVS Society:  At times I may give more than a seed, but try never to give too much. Everyone has to come to the well of truth on their own accord, with their own strength and determination.
Carol_Society:  @Raoul: Thank you for reminding us about the Allies Forum, a place where discussions on the GC can continue through the week! Of note is the thread on Sharing the Allies’ Message: http://alliesofhumanit…ssage
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @ Alisa I relate to what you have said. For me through time and practice I have begun to develop a flow with others which is based on my design which I am still exploring. Yet, I can feel quickly whether the flow is there or not. This tells me to either speak or listen and sometimes do both.
Arthur:  @rayhobbs What does it mean to become engaged with your Self?
Raoul_Australia:  Thank you Marshall for this ‘pebble’: “what would you do if you found out that the world is being visited?”
…a pebble that can eventually outgrow one’s shoe!
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Marshall for sharing your wisdom.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Ed, I got but having some trouble getting it open…
Ellen_Society:  Thank you, Carol, for this post from the Allies forum.
Tonia_Denmark:  of how, what and where and forget to leave me with the same as I gave…..but interesting to hear about how you have been with the NM for so long where as I just woke up to this realization that we are visited….still just coming down on my feet on this trying to grasp the “what?” on this without being rude, you know
Alisa_Russia:  Thanks Jim for your feedback. I resonate with what MVS says “everyone has to come to the well of truth on their own accord.” This is what I deeply feel. I am happy to share if someone asks, but my experience so far is that no one is particularly interested.
Joyanne Canada:  @Jim I can relate totally, watching within for that flow.. backing off restraint if it doesn’t happen.. using much discretion waiting always for the flow of Knowledge, When the time is right it flows effortlessly and is received, I also noticed when this happens the feeling of the Presence accompanies this flow
nenette_istanbul:  @MVS: Thank you for this quote:”At times I may give more than a seed, but try never to give too much. Everyone has to come to the well of truth on their own accord, with their own strength and determination.” …yes everyone has to come to the well of truth…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “People will always be preoccupied with their own personal needs and endeavors. Only a few amongst you will look into the bigger picture to see beyond these preoccupations, to discern the direction of your world and its possibilities for humanity. This represents a greater perspective. For these individuals, a Greater Community perspective will be particularly helpful because when you see and accept that you are not the center of the universe and that not everything that is happening is happening for you, you will be in a position to take greater responsibility for your actions and to see yourself as part of a Greater Community of life. The Greater Community is not bound by human preoccupations, human ideals, human beliefs or human assumptions. Many of its societies are more advanced than yours—spiritually and technologically. Therefore, developing a Greater Community perspective puts you in a position to learn a great deal, a position that you would not be able to assume otherwise. ” …
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … The New Message
Raoul_Australia:  Thank you Carol, a good time to re-kindle the discussion.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @ Kelvin thank you to remind us You have power. You have skills. You have wisdom. No one else can live in your world. It is biologically too complex for them. They need you. They need your cooperation. They need you to submit to them, willingly. They need to erode your self-confidence so that you feel you cannot resist them. They need you to deplete your resources so that you will become dependent upon them.”(6:19PM)
MaryL_boulder:  @Alisa: speaking from a deeper place (Knowledge) is where the power is…perhaps you can’t speak yet but in time the fire will be too hot to contain and when the situation presents itself, it will pour forth inspite of your personal concerns. I have felt that way too so I recognize the feeling you have. Just keep taking the steps.
MaryS_Boulder:  With my family, they had the experience that was relatively comprehensible of observing my orientation as a Christian for many years, beyond perhaps an initial period where I might have tried to communicate what it was about but later where we just have to agree we live in different universes, so to speak, and they would accept me as a Christian as long as I was still mostly Mary to them, with that quirk that was part of the package. Now I am aware that they are very quietly absorbing whatever I send to them, as long as it is pertinent to them.
Maria_Boulder:  My honest truth is, that I myself am very uncomfortable with the ET material…part of me not wanting to attract their attention- which inhibits my courage in posting, perhaps I am alone in this, but I wonder if anyone could speak to this?…I have had nightmares while we are going through this session…I know I am strong…but that I do not know how strong I am…meanwhile I try to deepen my practice…
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @ Alisa yes what Marshall said is so important.
Tyyne_Society:  @ Corey and all. It is similar to a simple thing I learned in my master’s program for social work – never work harder than your client. At some point people have to take the steps to make the needed changes – or in this case come to understand a whole new reality on their own accord.
Debbie_MI:  One thing I have been doing that is helping me in advocacy is keeping an advocacy journal. In my journal I keep notes about what I am doing in advocacy, questions I have about advocacy, and insights and experiences I am having in advocacy. I have found this practice to be helpful to me over time.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur “Seek experience not answers”. The New Message
Cameron_Canada:  Thank you all. Until next time, be well.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @Joyanne yes the flow is the Presence.
Douglas_St. Paul:  My last speech about the Greater Community was too long and complicated. Resonating with the bit about the pebble in the shoe.
LaRaeUK:  You’re not alone Maria. I have only recently been comfortable enough to respond, and then very little.
Tonia_Denmark:  You can’t plant a field in one day  thank you Marshall. I guess the seeds are the most important. What are they? How many? A
Levy_Brazil:  @Tyyne, thank you for “never work harder than your client”, very helpful!
LaRaeUK:  That is superb Tyyne, thank you.
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Will for sharing your experience.
nenette_istanbul:  this struck me Quote:”At present, humanity is not united and is at risk of becoming ever more fractured and contentious, facing a world of declining resources. You are losing your self-sufficiency with each passing day as you deplete the abundance of this world, as you overspend your natural inheritance, as you recklessly drive into the future, wanting to consume ever more from a world of finite resources.” the-message/volume-1/greater-community/humanitys-emergence-into-the-greater-community
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Yes Tyyne, thank you for that. Like a book that waits , infinitely patient until the reader is curious and upon the first turn of the page release the wisdom as required with out hesitation or force.
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Maria Yes. I have had that experience. When I start reading the Allies deeply, the unwanted experiences seem to come. Maybe they were there all along and now I have just become more aware of them. It is off putting though I have to say.
MVS Society:  Give people a clear message in a few words and somewhere to go (website or teaching), not your highly personal experiences. That should be reserved for only your closet companions or in some cases held back from everyone. Do not give yourself away. This is discretion.
Arthur:  I want to Know what drives the angels in staying so committed.
Joyanne Canada:  @Maria, I can relate, in the beginning I felt like you, but then quickly realized if I don’t become strong, I won’t be able to stand against their influence and intrusion.. I made a decision to grow my strength so that they will not be interested in me. The more influence I got from them the more determination I got to take out Post against them.. As I grew stronger and more determined the less interference I seem to get..
Will_Society:  Oh yes. Thank you, Marshall.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  It is what they are made of Arthur.
Kelvin_Colorado:  @Shrimayi, we remind ourselves everyday, that this is the case.
Alison_Boulder:  @Debbie, thanks that a good system. I’ve seen a need to copy and save some of my responses, when I surprise myself and respond well to a question that reappears often in advocacy. Like the photo quotes and links, we can reuse our own material and not try to re-invent it again.
nenette_istanbul:  Yes indeed ”DİSCRETION ” …Thank you @MVS
Ellen_Society:  Marshall, such excellent advice, such wisdom you are giving us! Bless you always.
Levy_Brazil:  Marshall, thanks for the clarity on the need of giving a seed (clear message) and somewhere to go. I feel both are crucial.
LaRaeUK:  Thank you Marshall for your wisdom….so much to learn.
Maria_Boulder:  Thank you Joyanne
Ilhun_Korea:  @MVS: Yes. Thank you.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @Maria…the more I do little by little the stronger I become. This is so evident in all our lives just looking at what we have done and how those actions make us feel.
SoL_USA:  @Arthur: They’re not Human. They get to see the bigger picture 
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Ed, I opened the flyer. You’re charging people $20?
Joyanne Canada:  @Arthur, the Great Coordination that is going on in all Universe’s. God’s pull back to Creation
Alisa_Russia:  @MVS – yes, that’s what I do in public, when communicating on the social networks. I realize I cannot share my own “highly personal experience” in any potent way. I can only point to the teachings and if people are ready they will find their own way.
Samantha_South Africa:  Thank you MVS for sharing your wisdom
Rosa_UK:  @Arthur I suspect it is Faith that drives the angels in staying committed…
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you dear Messenger and family, Ellen and Will and WWC. NNC
Raoul_Australia:  Thank you Marshall for your advice, I had and have to put a lot of effort in learning discretion and every learned bit helps a great deal.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  I have found this to be true through experience Marshall. Thank you for you guidance.
MaryL_boulder:  @Maria, yes the cloak/chains of fear is heavy especially when you first come to the Allies materials…but when you take the next step inspite of your fear, Knowledge rises higher in you…it may not yet lead you foremost but it is rising to the surface of your being. So the confidence and trust in Knowledge grows and becomes more real. It took me until Book 2 (Allies) before I felt the emotions of anger and indignation instead of fear. Now I feel not so emotional neither fear nor anger. I just know this is the truth and I look to see how to communicate this knowing whether in action, words or way of being in the world.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Maria_Boulder: “There is one way to escape fear and that is by cultivating Knowledge. In this way, you do not declare war on yourself. You do not dissect yourself with a knife. You do not become cruel towards your personal side. You do not cast out your feelings or your little thoughts. You have compassion for that which is weak and respect for that which is strong.
Here we take a complex situation, and we provide a simple direction. Yet, to cultivate Knowledge, you will go through a lot of fear and by going through it, you will weaken it. Fear is a master. It is the master of the worldly mind.” WGC1.25 Escaping Fear http://www.newmessage….ume-1
MVS Society:  Alisa, print the message and website on cards and hand out to people everywhere and leave on tables in restaurants and train stations and other high traffic areas. If you spread a wide net, you will reach the people who need to know and who are ready to prepare.
nenette_istanbul:  I agree with you @Alisa :” I can only point to the teachings and if people are ready they will find their own way.”
Alisa_Russia:  @MaryL – speaking is hard for me at the best of times. It is much easier to share in writing, which is why I blog a lot 
Arthur:  I am not looking for an explanation for there are plenty of those, it’s the direct experience I am after
MaryS_Boulder:  Rosa, I have been considering faith lately, how it works out to be waiting, watching and serving when you do not understand and you might be operating under a complete misunderstanding, but you “do it anyway.”
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Arthur I’d say they know the urgency, the importance of ending the Separation, the suffering and what lies beyond Separation for all of us.
Alison_Boulder:  Thanks MVS, part of my preparation when advocating is how to respond and redirect when asked about personal experience. In UFO/consciousness circles people look to your personal contact as if that’s what makes your sharing credible. But not everyone! I’ll tell them there are more reliable, solid ways of Knowing: Steps.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @Arthur…then follow your own expereince.
mellany UK:  I do that too, Alison. It can save a lot of time. Some questions come up, time and time again…. common hopes, and fears.
Jorge_Spain:  “In dealing with the presence of the Intervention, should you experience it in any way, it is so important that you not become emotional. Do not become loving and do not become fearful. Be neutral. If it is directed at you specifically, tell it that you recognize its deception and that you will not support it. Make yourself an undesirable subject for their usage. Tell them you will resist them with every fiber of your being and they will not choose you to become part of their human group of representatives. You will cease to be a desirable subject for their study or experimentation.” PROTECTING YOURSELF FROM THE INTERVENTION
Anna W_Boulder:  Thank you, MVS. I have already done some advocating in that way and I am glad to hear the affirmation.
MVS Society:  Arthur, do not waste your energy on such questions.
Joyanne Canada:  @Arthur, when I have those type of questions that need an answer I realize, that I need to expand my mind more and wait to know..I also realize when I leave this world those questions will be answered or known, but for now I must continue on, and not allow these questions to hinder my journey up the mountain. Sometimes the answers or insights on the questions come much later with my engagement with the teachings.
Arthur:  MVS but it was these questions that got me here in the first place.
MVS Society:  Never talk to a new person as if they are a student. Give them an idea that is compelling and somewhere to explore.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Thank you Marshall.
Alisa_Russia:  @MVS – there are no restaurants or train stations in the village I live in and I rarely travel anywhere else these days. But I will keep your suggestion in mind. Actually, I did have some NM cards Kristina kindly brought me when she visited Russia in 2013 and I distributed them at airports when I travelled to the U.S. that year.
Arthur:  But point taken, I will shut up
Shane – New Zealand:  in stillness all things can be known
Corey:MedicineHat:  MVS & all gratitude for your wisdom
Maria_Boulder:  Thank you Mary L, rayhobbs, Maureen- helpful…to hear how it has become easier for some.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Seek experience today, for experience will answer all questions and make questioning unnecessary. Seek experience today so that it may lead you to greater and greater experience. It is better for you to ask questions of Knowledge and then receive the experience that Knowledge can give you. You are accustomed to receiving so little in response to your inquiries. An answer is so very little. A true answer must be an invitation to participate in a greater preparation, in a preparation you have not prepared for yourself but which has been prepared for you. Therefore, seek not for little things that give you momentary relief or comfort. Seek for that which is the foundation of your life, which can provide life to you as never before.” Excerpt Step 183 I seek experience not answers. http://www.stepstoknow…s.htm
Jorge_Spain:  “Here you must value your own experience over that which seems to prevail in human thinking and awareness, which is largely blind and controlled by forces that most people do not even understand.” PROTECTING YOURSELF FROM THE INTERVENTION
Will_Society:  There has been a lot of wisdom and insight and experience shared here today, from our different places on the mountain and our different places in the world. Thank you so much for your sincere participation. A new reality is finding its way into the world.
Betty_UK:  Thanks Marshall & Alison
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Thank you Rayhobbs, experience is as different from ideas as the meal is from the menu.
Debbie_MI:  @MVS-Thank you for sharing all these different ways the New Message can be shared. This is very helpful to me.
René_Qc:  Again, the Messenger spoke what i needed to hear. I am very grateful.
Ellen_Society:  Your thoughts and comments are so appreciated! Thank you all for sharing your efforts, your struggles and your successes. In this way, we are all climbing the mountain, and we are not alone.
Hardev Australia:  Thank you Marshall for your wisdom and guidance.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Ellen and Will for moderating! Thank you Marshall for your wisdom here today and each day we practice with you. Thank you Patricia, Reed and Society for all that you bring to the world! And thank ylou to my fellow students for keeping Knowledge alive in the world! Nasi Novare Coram
Raoul_Australia:  This is such an important topic, thank you all for your sharing.
“…This is very important because the world is being
influenced by the Greater Community, and you are part of the world
that is being influenced.” (STK 203)

Ilhun_Korea:  @MVS, I thought I should not put my prints of NM anywhere because NM is sacred. But now I will change my thinking that prints of NM is a doorway to someone.

” print the message and website on cards and hand out to people everywhere and leave on tables in restaurants and train stations and other high traffic areas. If you spread a wide net, you will reach the people who need to know and who are ready to prepare.”

Rosa_UK:  @MaryS yes, thank you Faith has been a regular companion of mine…patient and lending strength when I need it…
MaryS_Boulder:  I would like to add one last plug for the Kickstarter campaign, that contributions as small as $1 collectively add the weight of numbers, which adds substance and power (“legs”) https://www.kickstarte…ad-wo
Kristina FL:  Thank you Marshall,”Give people a clear message in a few words and somewhere to go (website or teaching), not your highly personal experiences.” When i find the Allies my first reaction was to share it with everyone. Because at the time there was no Hungarian translation, i would spend hours on the phone with people trying to explain what i understood. I could not just lead them to a website. Since the Allies website was born, this work is much easier to do.
Virgie_near Seattle:  Thank you, Ellen and Will for moderating. Thank you, everyone, for so much help and inspiration on today’s chat, esp with regard to advocacy.
LaRaeUK:  Thank you Marshall, Patricia, Ellen Will and all. Much gratitude for these pearls of wisdom…..will take them with me.
Alisa_Russia:  MVS’s suggestion has given me the idea of making my own cards in Russian to hand out the next time I go to Moscow. Thank you everyone for your examples of courage and strength.
MaryL_boulder:  @Jorge thank you. In the end it is drawing a line in the sand whether it is about intrusions to your body or mind. There is your personal sovereignty here at stake too. This is from my experience.
Kelton_Calif:  As the Angels are devoted to our world – thank you Marshall for your time and devotion to us.
Tyyne_Society:  Thank you Marshall, Patricia, Reed, Ellen, Will and all. A chat I will have to reread.
Alison_Boulder:  @Kristina_FL I see your work in both languages and it is inspiring. To hear this was first done on the telephone for you…wow, that must have been some endurance training.
Cole_Boulder:  Thank you Marshall. Thank you everyone. Nasi Novare Coram
manuel germany :):  Thank you so much. I have learned a lot today. Again. Be concise, be simple, be discreet, pose better a question than an affirmation with a positive connotation in presenting the GC to new people to become the confident gardener leaving pebbles in other peoples shoes who wanted to be reminded…  – I would like to express my deep gratitude in being a student of the NMG and part of this wonderful international community. Nasi Novare Coram
MVS Society:  In doing advocacy, act like you have to reach a thousand people and do not have time to invest in people who are not ready. Be efficient in this way and you will not lose heart to people who will use you either as a resource or for entertainment.
Shane – New Zealand:  Thank you Marshall
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Marshall, Patricia, Reed and All. Nasi Novare Coram
Ilhun_Korea:  Thank you Marshall, Patricia, Reed and the Society, and All fellow students in the world and beyond and the Unseen Ones… Nasi Novare Coram.
Joyanne Canada:  Very true MVS.. take it out.. engage only with those who show interest and even then just point to the NM.. and move on.. there are many waiting out there
Betty_UK:  Thank you everyone 
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Jim B. Upstate NY “Your intrinsic needs in this life are for true relationship, true community, true purpose and true calling. Those are your intrinsic needs. You will have them no matter who you think you are, no matter what you are trying to do or who you are trying to be. You cannot extinguish them. They are central to you. When you have received the means for answering these needs, then you will be in a position to help others do the same. Knowledge ignites Knowledge. As Knowledge is more evident in you, it will ignite others.” WGC2.21 Devotion and Commitment http://www.newmessage….amily
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Retreana Carvedan Celton Iy: “Receive the Heart of God through your Spiritual Family that is joined about you.” Nasi Novare Coram
MVS Society:  Arthur, look to your life. That is where Knowledge must take you.

Raoul_Australia:  Thank you Marshall for the guidance, I have found that unfortunately even a friendship can become just entertainment if it does not have a higher purpose.
Kristina_Boulder:  Big goals create gig motivation. Reaching 1000 Russians with AOH material….

Shawn_Moose Jaw:  True that Raoul.
Ilhun_Korea:  Thank you Mark.
Kristina_Boulder:  I meant big motivation
Tyyne_Society:  Oh, I am on Step 191 – it says… Life has depth. Penetrate it. Enter into it. Receive it and inquire within it. Then you will become re-engaged in your natural relationship with life…
Carol_Society:  Great thanks to Marshall, Patricia, Reed, Ellen, Will, and each of you for holding this sacred space. Nasi Novare Coram.
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you, Marshall. Blessings, strenght and protection to you.
Will_Society:  Thanks again everyone for your participation today. See you on the Campfire Chat next week!
Raoul_Australia:  Thank you all for being here, see you real soon!
Kristina FL:  Alison… yes this endurance training lead me to a point, “this is it, for this message to reach many, i must translate it.” This is when i realized how blessed are those people who can read and listen to the original Revelation in English.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Thank you Will.
Ilhun_Korea:  Deep gratitude to Ellen and Will. Nasi Novare Coram.
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you all, thank you Society. See you next week. Nnc.
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Kristina Thank you and others for translating the New Message so that others can find it.
MaryL_boulder:  Thank you everyone. Your wisdom, honesty and struggles encourages me in this journey. As Reed said in the Steps Vigil we are indeed in “good company”. How can we not when the Angelic Assembly through the Messenger is with us and helping us end our suffering? NNC
Hardev Australia:  Thank you all. NNC
Ellen_Society:  Thank you to all who joined us today for this important gathering. We will gather again next week.
Corey:MedicineHat:  MVS I know you are right about advocacy however for me this has proven to be much more difficult than it might sound especially for people I know personally. I am starting to understand & see why this is so true. Thank you.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Thank you Ellen.
Kristina FL:  Maureen, the greatest blessing in my life and im sure for the other translaters also.
MVS Society:  Talk to Allison about messaging from where you are. You have a computer, you can learn to talk to the world.
mellany UK:  Deep gratitude to you all. Nasi Novare Coram.
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Kristina from Step 244 “Your greatest teaching in this life is the contribution of your life as it is demonstrated to others.”

Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Roger that Marshall.
MVS Society:  I am giving you these messages about planting seeds to save you for the big journey ahead.
Kristina FL:  Thank you all for sharing your wisdom, so much to learn and unlearn.
Shane – New Zealand:  Thank you all, deep gratitude to all who are undertaking this journey and are bringing knowledge into the world. Thank you to all who speak up for human sovereignty, some people are being tortured from within their own homes. the true reality of this situation is shocking and your voice of objection is needed to be heard. Please continue to speak out against Alien Intervention, you are literally saving lives, it is so important.. NNC
MVS Society:  Arthur, what really drives the angels cannot be fully known here.
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Marshall.
Rosa_UK:  Thank you Marshall, thank you all. NNC
Youngkyo_Korea:  Thank you Marshall, Patricia, Reed and All. Nasi Novare Coram
Ilhun_Korea:  Rather than persuade by many words, a few memorable questions are much more effective.
Kristina FL:  what a beautiful step Maureen
Betty_UK:  Thank you all and till next week. NNC

MVS Society:  We have a lot of people to reach in a confused and distracted world and we do not have much time to reach them.
Maureen_Boulder:  Onward. Up the mountain we go. See you all next week or sooner. Love to you all for your courage, fortitude and inspiration.

Inhee_Korea:  @Marshall, I will remember your words “We have a lot of people to reach in a confused and distracted world and we do not have much time to reach them.”
75019:  NURIA de México: hello, I don’t speak much english, and I work with groups much saturdeys, but amb studyn the pasos al Cococimiento, GRACIAS!! and I’m reading, studyn all New Message. GRACIAS!!
manuel germany :):  …are you alluding that maybe the access to internet is going to be restricted somewhere in the near future?
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Muy Bueno 75019!
Betty_UK:  Gracias a tu Nuria
MaryL_boulder:  @75019 gracias
manuel germany :):  @Nuria: Bienvenido. Algun dia tendremos también nuestro chat en espanol, de eso no hay duda 

Debbie_MI:  @Nuria-Bienvenido.
MaryL_boulder:  @manuel: yes in many languages!
manuel germany :):  MaryL_boulder: that sounds great 
Jorge_Spain:  Bienvenida Nuria
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “As you learn to learn, you learn to teach and to impart this to others. As you advance, you will be able to do this with increasing patience, compassion and understanding. Beginning teachers, like beginning students, all expect tremendous advancement with a minimum of investment. Only a wise practitioner realizes that the greater rewards come as a result of a more prolonged and consistent practice. The rewards are what one discovers along the way. It is not like reaching a pot of gold where the entire reward is given at the end of the journey. In the reclamation of Knowledge, which is the discovery of purpose in life, all of the rewards are given along the way. Therefore, you must pass along the way to receive them. You cannot take a detour, there are no shortcuts and you cannot rocket yourself to the top of the mountain. You must journey up. Here is where the rewards are discerned, received and accepted. WGC2.11 Spiritual Practice …
Joyanne Canada:  Thank you to my family for this inspiring, uplifting time together.. Soul Food that fires our determination to engage. NNC Blessings to All. Be Well..
Maria_Boulder:  @ 75019: gracias a ti por haber venido Nuria…y por tus estudios!
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @MVS Thank you I will keep this in mind In doing advocacy, act like you have to reach a thousand people and do not have time to invest in people who are not ready.

rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Para quién es la sabiduría? La respuesta a esta pregunta es clara, pero puede tomar mucho tiempo entender lo que significa y lo que se requiere de usted. La sabiduría está pensada para usted, usted que ha sido atraído por una mayor experiencia de propósito, significado y dirección en la vida, usted que no ha podido estar satisfecho con las pequeñas satisfacciones que preocupan a la mayoría de la gente. Está pensado para ustedes que sienten un anhelo más profundo por la verdad y que tienen una sensación vaga pero persistente de que hay algo importante que deben hacer en la vida: algo único y significativo, algo que no han podido encontrar en su Universidades, en sus libros oa través de sus conversaciones, algo extraordinario, algo que la mayoría de las personas ni siquiera conocen. Está destinado para ti…”
manuel germany :):  wow ray – that is cool, now you are even delighting us with wisdom in Spanish
Cameron_Canada:  @ rayhobbs – Do you speak spanish or just know where the information in spanish is?
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Welll there should be one somewhere …
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Nasi Novare Coram … .. .
Cameron_Canada:  thank you Ray
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Thank you all! Nasi Novare Coram

nenette_istanbul:  We Filipinos has 2 years course in Spanish..but sorry to say: Yo no hablo Spanol 
Nuria México:  Thank you all!!
Hyeonam_Korea:  Thank you Marshall that ” print the message and website on cards and hand out to people everywhere and leave on tables in restaurants and train stations and other high traffic areas. If you spread a wide net, you will reach the people who need to know and who are ready to prepare.”
Nancy_Oregon:  wow is this a record 3? hours? Hot topic for us, Thanks to all including the ones I could catch . ..Adria Cameron Corey Debbie Ellen Manuel, Mark, Mary S. Rudy Tyyne Wendy Will Marshall Reed Patricia and so many MORE. Nasi Novare Coram
Hyeonam_Korea:  Thank you all. NNC



3 Responses to "Campfire Chat July 29, 2017"

  1. Alisa Posted on July 30, 2017 at 5:44 am

    MVS Society: When doing Deep Study, it is important to highlight those things you do not understand or that are confusing to you…

    MVS Society: Give people a clear message in a few words and somewhere to go (website or teaching), not your highly personal experiences. That should be reserved for only your closet companions or in some cases held back from everyone. Do not give yourself away. This is discretion.

    I am confused about advocacy and sharing my own experience. I understand how important discretion is, I do not want to be going about heralding my own spiritual insights and experience from the rooftops, but what about blogging? I write about and share my experience in a general way with the thought “maybe someone else will resonate and want to explore the New Message and Steps to Knowledge for themselves.” But is this being presumptious and egotistical?

    MVS Society: Alisa, print the message and website on cards and hand out to people everywhere and leave on tables in restaurants and train stations and other high traffic areas. If you spread a wide net, you will reach the people who need to know and who are ready to prepare.

    This is a poser, but a suggestion I am taking to heart. Now I need to figure out the logistics because there are no high traffic areas where I live. Funnily enough, just last Saturday I happened to be visitng the closest largest town to me (a couple of hours away on the bus), called there by an old acquaintance who wanted to meet, and was at the train station and a restaurant, as well as a tourist area and gigantic supermarket, but that was last week, before MVS sowed the seed in my mind… Next time, I will be prepared.

    My Step today is Step 78 in the CT “My Strength Is Called For In the World.” But I am confused again.

    “People say they have a calling and they want a calling in life, and perhaps they will dream of it and desire it, but are they ready? Only the Wise will know. That is why the real Spiritual Teachers, the Unseen Ones, and even those who are still in physical life, do not show up everywhere giving everything to everybody. Perhaps they are not the popular teachers that are out there disseminating the “Ancient Texts” or the “Secret Teachings” to the general public. The more advanced the teacher, the more discernment they must have, the more care they must use regarding students and the more discrete they must be about what they know and what they can do.”

    I feel I have found my calling (translation of the NM and advocating as much as possible on the Internet), but it is not handing out cards in public places. I don’t feel ready for that. Does this mean I am failing? I am failing MVS and not supporting his call to reach as many people as possible in the world. I am confused.

  2. Janice Stevenson Posted on July 30, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    I am grateful for all the wisdom shared in yesterday’s chat. I have been praying for guidance about advocacy, and my prayers have been heard. Now it is up to me to implement this which means stepping out of my comfort zone, which has become increasingly less comfortable in recent weeks. “I must take heart that a greater involvement is promised which will provide me escape from my individual misery” (read comfort zone)! from Step 312. Thank you all; my prayers are with you every day. NNC Janice

  3. MaryS Posted on August 4, 2017 at 12:31 am

    Necessity drives angels.

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