Ayesha_Society:  Last week’s Chat Quotes from the Messenger: 

“Regarding error and deception there is a great difference between knowing the truth and using the truth.”
“Once truly recognized, the Intervention brings the urgency of our times to the fore like nothing else. Here your preparation and studenthood become really serious and consequential rather than something you try to get to when you can.”“Do not worry about where people around you seem to be stuck. According to Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, 2% of a world of over 7 billion people are able to hear this message. That is about 140,000,000 people, enough to change the world most certainly. We must find them and reach them with the New Message teaching about Knowledge and the Greater Community. If this was hopeless, the New Message would not have been given.”“The important thing to know here is that the Intervention is hierarchical and multi-racial and includes all foreigners from the universe in the world today.”“It is only when the…

Ayesha_Society:  … truth is overwhelming and inescapable that you can finally surrender to it and prepare to serve it whole-heartedly. Welcome the overwhelm!”

“As the Messenger, I must speak out against the Intervention.”

LaRae_Ottawa:  I felt so blessed, and so humbled to read both Marshall’s and Patricia’s account of this after glow experience. We are living in such extraordinary times, in such extraordinary circumstances….the ability to learn of these things from The Messenger and Patricia in their lifetimes is such a rare and beautiful gift. We must pause in humble thanks to our Creator to be here in this time and to give our service to this great Message.
Levy_Brazil:  Hello all
Wendy from Albany NY:  Greetings. Grateful to be sharing studenthood with you all.
Jeanne_Boulder:  Good Day to everyone
Jim B. Upstate NY:  The afterglow of “What really matters” was powerful and holds true meaning for not only my life but each individuals life at this time in this world. It has given to me a powerful affirmation of what I have always felt in my heart since a young boy. That true purpose,meaning an direction is within each one of us. Yet, many of us have wasted our lives because we didn’t know what we didn’t know. To be of service and contribution to others is a fundamental feeling I feel all of us have deep within. The Rev. What Really Matters has helped us to know the meaning of why we are here and what it is we need to find. Nasi Novare Coram
Jeanne_Boulder:  @ Howard, I agree
Mariska-NL:  Hello everyone
James & Ruth OH:  Hello friends!
LaRae_Ottawa:  Amen Jim B. Amen and hear hear.
Shane – New Zealand:  Hello everyone
Betty_UK:  Hi everyone
mellany UK:  Hi everyone!
Maureen-Boulder:  Well said, LaRae.
Bhargav_Columbus:  Hello everyone! Good to be here
Hardev Australia:  Greetings all and thank you LaRae. It is an honor to give our service to this great Message.
Ayesha_Society:  Let’s take a moment of stillness before gather together to share the next precious hour in emersion, studenthood and shared learning in exploring humanities emergence into the Greater Community.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  I just want to give a BIG tahnk you to Marshall, Patricia and Reed for helping us see and to awaken! It truly is a blessing for each of us to be a part of this Great Coordination and a part of life in this world now!’
Insuk_Korea:  Hello everyone!
MaryL_Boulder:  hello everyone
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Nasi Novare Coram
Kelton_Calif:  Hello everybody!
Robert_Society:  Welcome everyone to month 1, week 2 of our new Free School session – Contact with Intelligent Life in the Universe. We’d also like to welcome any new students who are joining us for the first time in this unique environment, unlike any other in the world.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Beautiful LaRae! Thank you for your words!
Katia_France:  Hello everyone. It’s great to be here with you!
Raoul_Australia:  Hello everyone, great to see you all again!
LaRae_Ottawa:  An honour indeed Hardev……
Alio-Texas:  Sleepy-head here…. Good morn or eve wherever you all are….. coffee’s on
Kari_H_Finland:  Good evening. Good to be here. Expecting a cold night, less than 10 degrees Celsius, here in southern Finland in the middle of July.
Alio-Texas:  Woke up dreaming about the intervention this morning….. getting the word out. What a weird life.
Ayesha_Society:  Thank you for joining us. Before we start with the chat questions, we’d like for you to share your thoughts on the afterglow that was captured by Patricia for the revelation received on June 26th called “What Really Matters”. Please share what struck you about this afterglow.
Josef Austria:  Hello everyone!
Maureen-Boulder:  That’s chilly, Kari.
Ayesha_Society:  For those of you who did not have a chance to see the email, the link to the afterglow journal can be found here http://www.newmessage….tters
RaeHyung_Korea:  Hello, Everyone!
Jeanne_Boulder:  @ Kari, wow that is quite a in weather!
Tonia_Denmark:  Hello all. Nnc
mellany UK:  Thank you Marshall and Patricia, for sharing your “Afterglow” recordings with me/us .. I’m grateful and honored to have insight into such Sacred moments, and to be in the world at this time of Revelation.
Mike_LF_CAL:  Greetings everyone!
Samantha_South Africa:  For me what struck me to the core were Marshall’s words – ‘Don’t leave me here alone,’ this made me feel immense gratitude to him for his service to humanity
Raoul_Australia:  What struck me is the timely relation of this Message to the times that are upon us…the narrowing path for students of the NM.
Greg_UK:  What struck me was the new message is nearly complete
Val_Westport:  Perhaps a strange analogy–but Marshall being interrupted from the mundane life to join the assembly in the Mystic reminds me of what it feels like to round the corner at Ano Nuevo beach in California and to suddenly come face-to-face with a huge elephant seal–and then see the whole colony. To have one’s reality so profoundly impacted, interrupted–of course, in Marshall’s case it’s from the mundane to the Divine–yet there is so much more beyond our everyday reality to what it means to be human.
Donald_Pa:  I found the email relating the experience of the “afterglow” after completing a letter to my state’s Senator in regards to environmental issues. My last statement to them was reminding them of what really matters. Just seeing the title of the revelation received sparked such a resonating feeling that I still am enjoying.
LaRae_Ottawa:  I was so moved just reading the words “What Really Matters”……as searching for meaning, and substance in this separated existence was a life long thirst that could not be quenched until discovering TNM. And now The Voice of the Angelic Presence has provided the answer.
Matt_bzn:  what struck me – “I can enjoy the world without being trapped in it, dominated by it”. I am beginning to realize how habitual much of my thinking is, and how true freedom is the ability to extricate the mind from all of the “crisis” every day, and realize “What is really important”. A huge focus of mine now…
LaRae_Ottawa:  Yes, that struck me as well Greg.
Alisa_Russia:  I was struck by what Marshall said about not wanting the Presence to leave him at the end of the transmission. It must be so difficult to come back down to earth, so to speak, after having such an intense experience with the Angelic Assembly. And Marshall hadn’t received a revelation for 6 months. His ability to balance this experience with being in the world amazes me.
Richmond_UK:  @Ayesha what struck me and always strikes me with the ‘Afterglows,’ is the amazing insight that they reveal between the Messenger and the Assembly. How the interaction occurs, how Marshall reveals his feelings before during and after. This is so powerful and to be a part of this and to be able to read about this is very profound and uplifting.
Alison_Boulder:  The afterglow account was deeply moving to me. It called me to really sit down and take time with it. I had prayed shortly before it was received, asking to be called to what really matters, above all, every day, and for my own strength to keep responding. I don’t pretend God speaks to me directly, but I know my prayer is part of a collective need, and I must pay attention.
Wendy from Albany NY:  What struck me were Marshall’s comments on the delicate balance between connecting to ‘Heaven’ and being in the world, that being in the world is so important…..what use is the message if you don’t bring it into the world. I guess this is what I understood about What Really Matters.
Debbie_MI:  @Samantha-I was struck by that also and feel immense gratitude-it is so moving.
Katia_France:  Yes, Samantha, I was also very touched by Marshall’s words “Don’t leave me here alone”. It’s such an effort for him to remain strong and grounded on both sides so as to remain a bridge between the two worlds. He is doing this for us, for humanity… out of love, compassion and duty… or he would return to his Ancient Home. So much gratitude!!
Maria_Boulder:  These words were the most poignant for me:
“And when it was over, there was great stillness inside of me, and they began to ascend. And as they ascend, I could just feel like I didn’t want them to go. ‘Don’t leave me here alone,’ I thought to myself.”…underlining why we have this veil shielding the memory of our ancient home, while we are here…helping me to accept the serious need for us to be here- and not there…there is something each of us must accomplish and it is HERE that it must be done!
Shrimayi Netherlands:  What struck me the most were Marshall saying “Do not leave me here along”
Jansett_KY:  What struck me was the timeliness of the Revelation…as always. Perhaps in earlier times, humanity would ponder what really matters at the sannyasin, or end of life, stage of their earth journey. With the Greater Community teachings, we of all ages are now collectively called to see, really see, what life means. Perhaps collectively humanity has reached the sannyasin stage as it faces the sixth mass extinction.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  “So once you know your role and your purpose, it’s about being in that role and carrying out that purpose. That’s what really matters.” This quote struck me because it is all about work, practice and responsibility. And, it is a reminder now to me how easily we can forget this and go back to our “usual” lives always knowing we are here for something far different and more meaningful than we can even imagine. For reality is far greater than imagination. This teaching is about reality and how we choose to respond to its meaning for all of us and the world.
Kari_H_Finland:  Do I dare to write this… What struck me is that I began my second round of Steps to Knowledge after more than one year break on June 26 when Messenger received “What really matters”
Rosa_UK:  Hello everyone, NNC
Alisa_Russia:  @Kari – wow! Glad you shared that, such perfect timing for you./
Hardev Australia:  I am fascinated to learn about the after glow of the revelation, What Really Matters, received on the 26 June 2017. I had always wondered how revelations were received by previous messengers and prophets and though have read some accounts, Marshal explanation clarifies the experience so much more explicitly. Thank you sharing this with the world. We are truly blessed to learn of this.
25505:  Hei Kari!

Alio-Texas:  Was right on time for me. Was contemplating that morning with much perplexity about what the heck is really going on here, what am I, “Why am I doing this anyway?”

I wondered if our collective mind and evolution was taking others to that place and need for that message?

Raoul_Australia:  This too struck me: “The New Message is almost complete, except for certain teachings that may be needed as we begin to take the New Message out into the world.” (MVS) It points to how we are assisted as we take the NM out there, and to the emerging circumstances.
LaRae_Ottawa:  It strikes me we really have no idea how incredibly difficult this road must be for Marshall….to know on the one hand the pure joy of living in our Ancient Home, and yet also knowing how important it is he is here in this world, to bring this Message to humanity. The sacrifice, the dedication….and yet there must still be that longing to return. I doubt we can even begin to comprehend what Marshall, Patricia and Reed experience.
66161:  We each have a responsibility “….doing what really matters, becoming what really matters, giving what really matters.”
“Here your life becomes simple. It becomes powerful. It becomes determined. It becomes strong. It becomes enduring. It becomes gracious. Here you can experience the pleasure of the moment while preparing for the future.” “Enough people in the world must be restored to this sufficiently to alter the course of humanity.”
Alisa_Russia:  @Kari – I wanted to add – what profound confirmation that taking the Steps to Knowledge is one of the things that really matters.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Robert_Society: “The Presence of these Unseen Forces gathers where Knowledge is being experienced and expressed. They constitute the Angelic Presence that is assigned to each world, and it includes those who assist this Angelic Presence as well.” Life in the Universe http://www.newmessage….verse
Ayesha_Society:  As many of you have mentioned here which is so moving it is so endearing to hear of Marshall’s strong connection to the assembly. And the other sobering truth revealed in all of this is he can’t be attached and fixated to that reality all the time, as much as this connection is so strong, as he must build a strong anchor to both heaven and the world, which he demonstrates very consistently in his life.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Oh that is wonderful Kari….thank you for sharing that.
Alisa_Russia:  @LaRae – I agree. Being a bridge between the two worlds, and a strong and sturdy bridge at that, must require such fortitude and dedication. More than most of us can imagine.
51127:  Greetings y’all from TX! First time here.
Martin_Australia:  @Alisa, yes, Steps really matters, our lives really matter and our student-hood really matters
Alio-Texas:  Karl I can relate….. did not take a year, but have been working with resistances and yesterday said, “I just ain’t going to do it today….. na na na” like a snotty little kid.
Katia_France:  Welcome, dear new Texan student! WOuld you care to share your name? You can set a new name if you click on the gear button at the bottom right hand corner. So glad you could join us today!
Matt_bzn:  @LaRae – very well said. Thank you.
Kari_H_Finland:  @Wendy, @Maria thank you for emphasizing what really matters in our lives here in this world at these times
Jeanne_Boulder:  @ Kari That is amazing
LaRae_Ottawa:  Yes Alisa….my mind boggles….but it also fortifies my resolution to be a devoted and steadfast student. We cannot allow their efforts to be in vain.
Ellen_Society:  The Afterglow reports bring us so close in to the process of revelation! Never before in the history of the world have we been honored with such access, such awareness of the process. May Patricia’s account quicken the reality in all of us of the miracle that surrounds and inspires us.
nenette_istanbul:  This struck me : quote :I feel a lot of downward pressure, as if a force is trying to pull me off the surface of my mind. It makes it really difficult for me to do things. All of a sudden everything became very glassy. And I said to myself, ‘I know what this is. I have been receiving messages about what this could be.’ Yes, it’s like a tremendous weight on my shoulders and yet pulling me off the surface. It is not a physical weight, but it feels weighty. And I am being called out of a normal state of mind, from normal life, from normal activities…” truly the Message is as light as air but the impact to The Messenger to carry is so heavy… thank you Marshall for receiving the Revelation for us. NNC
Adria_work:  Thank you Society for the Afterglow, for the entire work to assist the Messenger. I was very touched reading the entirety of the Afterglow. Many important pieces of wisdom, advice, – – for me personally also corrections. I’m deeply grateful for Messenger’s continuous presence here with us.
Alisa_Russia:  For me the “What Really Matters” revelation puts it all in a nutshell. It seems to zoom in and sum up the entire Revelation (if that is possible). And Marshall says that it will soon be complete, so it is as though the AA is giving us a concise summary.
Donald_Pa:  The reality of hearing what Marshall shared during receiving this revelation expands once one realizes just how many times he has had to be that bridge between both worlds. Truly a remarkable man to take the many years of this experience to become that so important messenger role vehicle.
Aurora_Hawaii:  Most significant to me, and resonating, is “I must speak out against the Intervention”. At last! There is an action plan!!
Robert_Society:  I am always struck by the thought that we are privileged and honored by being able to actually be here when Marshall is receiving Revelation. That this experience is more important than we may realize, and that future generations who may not have this opportunity will look back and wonder what it was like for those of us who were in the world at the same time as the Messenger. We are truly Blessed I feel.
Raoul_Australia:  I fond the Messenger’s post-Revelation Teaching very helpful: “Why keep seeking more counsel if you can’t use what you’ve already received and already know to do? People don’t realize that the more your life becomes truly oriented and directed, the less guidance you need, so the less guidance you’re going to have. It’s either that or you are so stuck or so lost or so obstinate that they just stop talking to you. Those are the two possibilities.” Sometimes self-obsession makes one seek more advice, more answers, basically more attention to the whims of the mind, but we already have all the advice needed.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Your observations are spot on Robert….resonating.
Erik_OR:  “What Really Matters” struck me as a simplification, a distillation of the elements of life into its essential components. It was a calling for me to return to stillness and inner listening, and to be ever more present to myself and those around me. It reminds me of many times in my life when I heard those very words echoed within my own soul, and how the question itself seemed to propel me forward.
Jeanne_Boulder:  @ Aurora I like that also,”I must speak out against the Intervention”. At last! There is an action plan!!(9:20AM)
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Robert_Society, “we are privileged and honored by being able to actually be here when Marshall is receiving Revelation.” I am deeply resonating with you!
Wendy from Albany NY:  Yes Raoul, this was the part that hit me between the eyes!
Kristina_Boulder:  @Raoul, I did too.
Alexandra_NL:  The title and account of “What really matters” brought a deeper sense of urgency within me. I feel I need to change gear and become more serious with my practice and every moment in my life… What really matters… something to be with, something I keep on my dashboard now…
Kari_H_Finland:  @Alio, may we pull each other onward
Danny_Australia:  Yes we are truly blessed to be living at a time of Revelation
Alisa_Russia:  @Raoul – that passage struck me as well. It made me realize I need to be appreciative of and use what I already know and not keep looking for more answers.
James & Ruth OH:  My friends across the world: Please consider (if you are not already) becoming a pillar donor to the Society. I am like many of you, a simple follower of the New Message. MVS needs us to share his burden of bringing the NMFG to the world – to save Planet Earth and Humanity. Our unity is a calling for us able to hear to help spread the NMFG to the world. NNC
Rudy_Boulder:  Yes, Robert. I have always thought that about people being around other important people in our history. “I wonder what was it like for them to actually be there with so and so…” May we recognize and not waste the opportunity and blessing that this really is.
Sarita_Ottawa:  @Raoul This also struck me too
LaRae_Ottawa:  Amen James and Ruth…..
Bridget:  Yes Alio ditto.
MaryL_Boulder:  The words themselves are powerful “What really matters?” that just by uttering them we are able to assess and look at what we think, do and act in light of all that preoccupy us. It is a personal and collective warning/alarm/siren that resounds within us and throughout in the mental environment. May this strike us deeply and become a integral resounding that rises on its own to remind us of what really matters.
Alexandra_NL:  Thank you James & Ruth for that reminder! “Please consider (if you are not already) becoming a pillar donor to the Society”. I was talking about this today with a few students…
Darlene_Society:  Thank you deeply James and Ruth…sharing this burden while he is here, thank you.
Martin_Australia:  @Nenette, that being pulled off the surface of the mind that Marshall experienced was amazing to hear about and how graciously he waited for Patricia and Reed
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you too, Ayesha. What a beautiful moment it was to read Patricia’s words on the afterglow. Like reading a letter from the family. What struck me was the part about the feeling of heavy weight on Marshalls mind. It somehow reminds me of this feeling I often have physically. Like being pushed off the surface. It is then very important to attend every pillar in life as soon as possible. Also the name of the revelation is striking me to the core, because I remember Marshall said to me at the Encampment 2016 to remember the most important things, and these words often returned to me as so what are the most important things? Thank you, Patricia for sharing the afterglow with us.
Dariel_Boulder:  Yes, Jim B. How easily we go back and forth thinking that it is natural to retreat to our separated reality. ‘No more side-trips’ they said. Time to really be about our purpose and preparation for purpose and deeply engaged with our practice…
Wendy from Albany NY:  How does one speak out against the Intervention when there public acknowledgment of its existence?
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you James and Ruth
Alisa_Russia:  @MaryL – yes, indeed. When I saw the title of the revelation, I felt my attention honing in on it and thinking – now we are getting down to the nitty gritty 
Lin_Boulder:  @Robert, resonating. Living at the time of the Revelation, being so close to the Messenger, so close to the Greater Reality, that the AA working dynamically and actively behind the scene, that we almost can feel them, it is truly a blessing.
Kristina_Boulder:  This secret is related to Messenger’s post-Revelation Teaching “There is impatience amongst you, and yet we assure you that your first step will seem like too much.” Secret 104
Kari_H_Finland:  Yes Alisa, we needed to hear that Revelation or at least I needed with all my ambivalence in my spiritual practice
Wendy from Albany NY:  I meant, no public acknowledgement of the Intervention…
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  “why keep seeking more counsel if you can’t use what you’ve already recieved and already know to do?” This phrase stuck out for me. So applicable. Marshall? Thank you for all you have had to do, and for all that you have had to resist and forgo.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Thank you for that reminder Kristina Boulder. I always think of that when I start to get impatient. I recall that and think….yes, patience is good….no rush. lol
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Robert! I truly can relate to what you have said! Resonating!
Alisa_Russia:  @Kristina – yes, wanting to have it all now without doing the work.
Tonia_Denmark:  Maybe I am confusings things I dont know…
Jeanne_Boulder:  @ Jame & Ruth OH thanks for the reminder to become a pillar donor this is very much needed.
Kristina_Boulder:  @Alisa, yes, exactly, that’s how ambivalence comes to play and ambivalence is lack of action.
Kari_H_Finland:  “The Afterglow reports bring us so close in to the process of revelation!” Yes Ellen what an important understanding to keep alive in times to come. God is not speaking with mighty voice over the mountains…
LaRae_Ottawa:  @Kristina….it also reminds me that it took me 54 years to find TNM and all that I learned in those years can’t be undone overnight…..mores the pity.

Robert_Society:  We’d like to thank you for sharing your experience of the Afterglow and its impact on you. Please continue with that if you’d like. We’d like to invite you to share your response to the Chat question for today as well:

How is the Teaching on contact with intelligent life presented in the Core Revelation different from what many people interested in life in the universe and spirituality assume to be true, or that you assumed to be true before finding the New Message and Allies Briefings? Did this evoke any questions for you in reading the Core Revelation?

Ayesha_Society:  @Erik re: ..a distillation of the elements of life into its essential components.” The question of “what really matters” has come up in my experience quite strongly for the past few months, as I continue to question things that have taken up space as important, in my experience and as a “boil down” is occurring on priorities, values and my activities. I really resonate with word “essential” at this point in my life, the discomfort for things that don’t matter anymore just keeps growing. Boiling down to the very essentials and a re-alignment of pillars and to the relationships that I must align my life. So when I first heard that this revelation was called “What really matters” it really could not be more timely.
Aurora_Hawaii:  @Wendy – I think we live our knowledge, and share in small bits. I passed out the Human Sovereinty Declaration to some unaware friends on Independence Day – referring to the movie, and saying this declaration was a “just in case”. A bit of humor – and yet….
Raoul_Australia:  @Kristina re. “There is impatience amongst you, and yet we assure you that your first step will seem like too much.” Secret 104, another passage comes to my mind where they say something like, “…you think this is bad, we are not even telling you everything”
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Robert and Lin I agree.
Kristina_Boulder:  Raoul, yes, I remember reading this…
Mike_LF_CAL:  @LaRae, I can relate all to well with those 54 years as well…
Danny_Australia:  @Raoul and Shawn yes that quote strikes me as well where Knowledge is actually a lot more silent than we would like it to be, because it is in fact waiting for us to act and show our own courage and commitment to follow what it has already given to us to follow.
Wendy from Albany NY:  Thank you Aurora, I agree about living our knowledge and sharing in small bits. What else can one do? This is how I am experiencing it also.
Erik_OR:  @Ayesha, thank you for sharing! Boiling down, realignment….yes!
Alexandra_NL:  @ Kristina_Boulder @ Raoul: thank you for that. This brings to mind the following passage I read recently rom Building the 4 pillars of your life “Many people think that they are ready to take on such greater responsibilities and challenges, but they really do not have the foundation that can sustain them through the long period of preparation and through the many challenges that they will face along the way. They love the idea of living a life of greater purpose and meaning, but they really do not have the foundation to sustain themselves in assuming and maintaining such a life.”
LaRae_Ottawa:  That’s the beauty of TNM @Mike LF….it helps us accept that we are where we are….and assists us in slowly unburdening. Oh we are so blessed!
Ken-Oklahoma:  @Ayesha. This Revelation has been timely for me at well. In the recent weeks I have been with the questions What is my purpose here? and What part do I need to play?. What Really Matters….what truly matters? “What really matters in the end is that you can give what you came here to give, based upon your design not upon your wishes, based upon your deeper nature not upon your preferences or what you think will make you happy.”
Betty_UK:  It was needed. No side journeys now. It’s time to live and do ‘What really matters’. May I express my/our gratitude for the opportunity of experiencing the accounts in the journal.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Yes…Marshall’s life is and has been a life of service to Heaven and to the world! I cannot fathom his life of being in this world yet not of it. It takes tremendous honesty, responsibility, humility and love to do this. My love goes out to him, Patricia, Reed, and the society members for they are what they do! Words canot describe the feeling I have for MVS and the others mentioned. Profound gratitude to what has been received and what has been given to us and the world! Nasi Novare Coram
Maria_Boulder:  I was also struck by Patricia’s words ( she and Reed having hurried back home on their bikes):
“As we hurried to prepare the space for what was about to happen, I asked him how he was doing, especially after having to wait so long for us to get there.” I felt into the intensity of what Marshall undergoes, in a physical body, receiving an Angelic voltage, a bridge on behalf of this world.
Joyanne_Canada:  @Jim B–resonating with your feelings.
LaRae_Ottawa:  I feel you Jim B. resonating on a profound level.
Matt_bzn:  @Robert – it is very dangerous that we are being presented with “experts” on the UFO phenomenon who are clearly representatives for the Intervention. I hear them weekly on overnight talk radio. And they are playing into the fact that people believe what they want to believe. People want to believe that ETs would have an interest in helping us, and so it is presented that way.
Erik_OR:  @Betty: “No more side journeys now.” Yes, this stood out strongly to me as well. I’ve been on many side journeys. It’s time to focus more closely on what’s true in my life.
Ayesha_Society:  @All, as we move forward with Robert’s question that was just posted, I encourage you to take what you’ve shared regarding the afterglow and post this on http://www.newmessage….ters. This way what you share will be captured and will make a permanent mark, so that others who find this in the future can share the experience of how this impacted the first respondents like you.
Jeanne_Boulder:  I agree, “I must speak out against the Intervention”. At last! There is an action plan!!(9:20AM)
Raoul_Australia:  @Danny, Shawn, yes, it seems like the range of decisions to make becomes very narrow.
Alisa_Russia:  “How is the Teaching on contact with intelligent life presented in the Core Revelation different from what many people interested in life in the universe and spirituality assume to be true” – I think that many people do not realize what a threat the Intervention is – they think it is for our benefit, for our education, to help us deal with our conflicts. I don’t think many people understand the true purpose of the Intervention today.
Dariel_Boulder:  @Wendy…Thank you for you thoughts around, “the delicate balance between connecting to Heaven and being in the world.” How we be in the world is everything. Am I observing in stillness or am I totally sucked into what is occurring?
Debbie_MI:  @Wendy-I have often wondered this myself as many people I know are not even sure extraterrestrial life exists. To many people the issue is very theoretical. But I tell myself there that the more I speak out against the intervention, the more people may have a chance to start to consider the issue for the very first time. It is like a seed that is planted that can eventually grow into greater awareness.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Raoul, “…you think this is bad, we are not even telling you everything” no #$%@ brother!!!!
Aurora_Hawaii:  This teaching is different in that it is full on facing the dangers. Warning us that action is required as opposed to expecting a saviour and all the flowers and sugarplums that don’t reflect our knowledge of real life.
manuel germany :):  @Jim B. Upstate NY – I feel also a deep gratitude…
Heidi_Germany:  Hi, everyone! Sorry, had problems to get access (browser)
Alisa_Russia:  I read some interesting comments from a Russian guy in a Facebook group – he was arguing that aliens couldn’t possibly be coming here for resources because there are so many other places in the universe they could get them.
Betty_UK:  @Eric_Or, Side journeys is part of the condition of living in separation, everyone suffers from it, but knowing what really matters, will have the power to redirect your life, to where you must go, where you must be.
Raoul_Australia:  @ Mike, definitely brother! …not an easy picture is taking shape, but the Preparation makes it possible to handle it
Matt_bzn:  Thank you Ayesha – “essential”. That has been a sobering contemplation for me recently.
Joyanne_Canada:  what struck me was this passage. “It becomes a matter of ‘am I getting the job done?’ ‘Am I staying on course?’ ‘Am I staying current with what needs to happen?’ ‘Am I staying balanced?” And I’ve been given the provisions for making those adjustments” I deep resonated with it, because these are questions I ask myself alot lately
Wendy from Albany NY:  This teaching is so different from what I have been exposed to previously. It does feel like a very big dose of REALITY. It makes me question all of my perception – as seeing what I wish to be, not what is.
Amina Russia:  I never thought that the Universe was an empty place, believed in life other than in this world since my childhood. But this passage from the Core Revelation says what I thought before:” Many people think that if humanity were to encounter another race of beings in the universe, this race of beings would be inordinately interested in humanity, and would want to help humanity and share their wisdom and technology with this young emerging race in the world” So this Revelation is eye-opening for me and I think will be for many, and will be very shocking for most I think.
Alexandra_NL:  Thank you Betty_UK. I hear compassion in your words.
Tom_SanFrancisco:  @alissa; most people thin “resources” mean minerals. they don’t think of biological resources.
Alisa_Russia:  And someone else said she thought they were here to help us resolve our nuclear war conflict.
Alison_Boulder:  @Robert this Revelation speaks of limited resources, when a popular thought is of abundance and free energy in the Universe. This Revelation also tells us we need a preparation from God, but I encounter people in advocating who feel technology can take us to the next level instead, or they see God and a structured Steps preparation as too much of a threatening authority.
Erik_OR:  “It is as if humanity were a little child coming out of its house for the first time and recognizing it lives in a big city controlled by powerful forces that the little child cannot understand. It is very different from the storybooks the child would have read or from the child’s imagination. It is not a wonderful place where everyone is happy, everyone is supported and everyone gets along really well.” A wake-up call, a reality check, and facing the hard, cold truths of life head on. Not many are willing to do this. I see how the personal mind can embellish reality so strongly, making it more pleasing and positive to look at, which people do because they don’t feel they have the strength to function in a more demanding environment.
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you, Robert. To elaborate a bit it is about this unburdening period, that what resonates is to keep and what doesnt resonate is a let go, and now it is items. It was just this feeling of being pushed of the surface or pay attension to what is coming, that really struck me.
Kristina_Boulder:  “Yet people go about life as if nothing is happening, consumed with their own needs, consumed with human conflict and corruption, consumed with the difficulties of life here in this one world, unaware and unconcerned about the presence of an Intervention here. Those few people who are aware of this presence are being persuaded to perceive it as beneficial, as benign and, in some cases, as even representing salvation for the human family.” I see this a lot on Facebook, when posting PQ about intervention. So may people don’t even believe in intervention, even people who are part of the UFO groups. I always wander, why they are part of the UFO group if they don’t believe in it? And many think that it’s here to help/save us. Not many speak up against it.
Lin_Boulder:  Before finding the NM (precisely Allies briefings), I had studied UFO/ET for a while, and was led to believe there are good ETs and bad ETs. It was such a shock to read those who are in the world are resource explorers, and who are here to take advantage of humanity, that I had to run away from the briefings the first time.
Alisa_Russia:  @Tom – yes, and when I replied to him and said our planet was rich in flora and fauna, a rare gem in the Universe, he thought I was talking about food and said they could grow their own. That took me for a loop – lol!
Jeanne_Boulder:  ..you think this is bad, we are not even telling you everything”(9:29AM) That stood out for me also
Maria_Boulder:  yes Ayesha- will do (9:33)…our experiences as the ones who walked with him when he was here, will also be a treasure to those who come later…
Mathieu-France:  @Robert: re assumptions regarding life in the universe, I think there is such a natural tendency to just hope life out there is better than how we know it down here, because we seek relief from our struggle with a disappointed experience of the world. The world already is overwhelming, in a sense, so if you add a much larger landscape, with all its implications, it triggers anxiety within the personal mind and a tendency to just hope for a preferred solution. Here what feels critical is discernment and capacity: the discernment between our preferences and how they tend to influence, sometimes manipulate, our perceptions, to look with clear eyes; and the capacity to be with life in Separation as it is, beyond our hopes and fears, which requires Knowledge. Without Knowledge, the personal mind is just a little animal that begins to feel threatened and will try to escape that feeling one way or another.
Erik_OR:  Thank you, Mathieu
Samantha_South Africa:  Of the questions that arose for me after rereading the revelation – Humanity’s Emergence into the Greater Community – those that really felt important were: How can I serve humnaity’s emergence into the Greater Community? And what role do I need to play in fostering humanity’s independence and self-sustainability? It highlighted the importance of my preperation and my deep evaluation – the essential beginning steps to finding my purpose
60046:  Marshall’s words… Do not leave me alone…. My Step today—-249- “Alone I Can Do Nothing”…
Mathieu-France:  @Lin, I has the exact same reaction!
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “The more grounded you are in Knowledge the harder it will be for you to make a mistake and the more you will be able to see problems before they arise. The practical value of this is immense and incalculable.” Eight Guidelines For Discovering Your Higher Purpose https://newknowledgeli…load/
Ken-Oklahoma:  @Lin – I had also studied UFO/ET for a while before coming to the NM and then discovering the Allies of Humanity Briefings. The AoH gave such a comprehensive understanding that I could not put the first book down…..had to read it non-stop in one afternoon. It answered so many questions!
Kristina_Boulder:  @Amina, I agree. I think people used to think about themselves as “special”, which is understandable considering what religion is telling you and considering that we are the only race in this world (at least that we are aware of), so we never had to compete with others for resources, at least not on the major interplanetary scale.
Wendy from Albany NY:  Thank you so much Mathieu! a very clear statement of the complexity of what we are dealing with leading to why we so need Knowledge.
Robert_Society:  I am reminded of the Step in Steps CT training that says, “In the GC you will not be free unless you can establish your freedom and maintain it. In the GC you will be persuaded unless you can gain Knowledge and establish a foundation for it within your life.” How direct, profoundly striking and simple. Yet, can enough of us do this for an entire world…? How different this is from the prevailing views in movies and the public’s opinions.
Aurora_Hawaii:  @Alisa, My response to that same comment was – maybe WE are the resource… that caused more thought, I think.
Kari_H_Finland:  Yes Matt, it is sad to see how the UFO research community with the exception of few sober individuals, is inclined to think that the visitation is beneficial for humanity. I have seen this tendency growing by the years. In 1980 and 1990s there still was much more critical thinking about the extraterrestrial visitation.
Kelvin_Boulder:  @Mathieu thank you ” The world already is overwhelming, in a sense, so if you add a much larger landscape, with all its implications, it triggers anxiety within the personal mind…”
Ayesha_Society:  Without the education and the reality of what life in the Universe is really like as the New Message presents to us, we as a human race only have our hopes and assumptions to fill in the blanks of what contact means. I remember when I was first researching, I wanted it to be true that contact meant that they are here to help and uplift us, and there were plenty of resources on this topic to confirm that desire. When I found the allies briefing , it presented a sobering truth, but at the same time it was not shocking. I knew this was the real thing. It was sobering, inspiring and encouraging.
Alisa_Russia:  @Mathieu – yes, I agree. I think considering a wider panorama of life in the Universe is just too much for most people. They have trouble managing what is right before them, never mind examining a bigger picture. People are blinkered or just inexperienced. I think people have to have had some past experience to even consider any of this.
Val_Westport:  There is the distinction ‘specialist’–ordinary people, trained for specific missions–we are not ‘special’; we are specialists.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Robert, Alisa, I had a series of realizations this week that culminated in thinking deeply about how serious a threat the Intervention is to “human values” and that the Revelation(s) state that the members of the Intervention do not share ANY human values. What that ultimately boils down to me is a very profound realization. They do not value Love, they do not value Family…these concepts do not exist in their societies and if the Intervention should succeed, God forbid and WE (WWC) forbid, then these things we value above all others, Love and Family, will cease to exist here on Earth. What really matters to me now is to become a vehicle for the expression of Knowledge into the world!
Alisa_Russia:  @Aurora – oh yes! Thats a great response 
Matt_bzn:  @Alisa – I hear that often – why would they come here? We have no resources – my retort is one from the teaching “You cannot imagine the value of a tree in the Greater Community”. That puts it in perspective.
LaRae_Ottawa:  What struck me about these briefings is how deeply I kept my head buried in the sand of my own projections onto the possibility of life in the universe. I was deeply attached to the idea that spirituality could help sort the world. Even when I completely embraced the truth of most of TNM I deeply resisted Allies…because it did not fit the warm fluffy visions I had projected onto life.

rayhobbs_Colorado:  “In discovering your greater purpose in life and in building a connection to the deeper Knowledge that God has placed within you, that holds this greater purpose for you, there are certain things that you must avoid, certain behaviors and involvements, intentions and desires, that will prove to be very dangerous for you and will undermine and even destroy your greater promise in being in the world at this time. The world is a hazardous place; it is a dangerous place; it is a beautiful place. And it is the appropriate place for you to be, but because of its many hazards, both its physical hazards and the many seductions that exist within the human environment, one must proceed with great caution, discernment and discretion.

There are many attractions in this world that are extremely dangerous and counterproductive. While they may seem to produce pleasure and benefit at the outset, they betray one’s relationship with oneself. They betray one’s deeper conscience, a conscience that has…

rayhobbs_Colorado:  … been established by God. And they can truly ruin one’s life and compromise one’s life to the point where you truly become a stranger to yourself. Having taken so many wrong turns, having made so many wrong decisions, now it seems almost impossible to find your way back.

You will find redemption eventually, ….. either in this life or beyond, …..”
Eight Guidelines For Discovering Your Higher Purpose https://newknowledgeli…load/

Matt_bzn:  @Aurora – Now THAT is an inconvenient truth….
Shane – New Zealand:  There is a lot of hope regarding the ET intruders, how much of this is really a cover for fear? “The problem with hope is that it is a cover for fear. The only real hope you have is that Knowledge is with you and that you cannot lose Knowledge. That is true, but beyond that, hope is simply an adaptation to the existence of fear.”
Levy_Brazil:  Mike, thanks for the insight on Intervention vs human values
Joyanne_Canada:  @Ayesha: I knew it to be the real thing. Yes recognition of universal truths, I too realized it was the real explanation for the Visitors to our world. Somewhere within it is known.
Kelvin_Boulder:  @Mathieu, I am reminded of last week’s chat,” There is a concerted effort to keep us fixated on ourselves, period. Our advocacy is to call people out of that fixation and to become aware of the bigger picture that is all around us, around our world,…”
Alisa_Russia:  @Mike – very profound insights.
MaryL_Boulder:  @Tom, I thought resources was everything else on earth except us human beings! Book 2 of Allies shock me to see that biological resources included us…that shock shook me out of the disabling fear that hung over me from book one.
Danny_Australia:  @Mike I totally agree
Donald_Pa:  @ Robert my experience with concepts of not being alone in the universe go back for more years than I care to relate. Dealing with others’ ridicule or disbelief often caused them to pass judgement upon me. This used to result in my retreat to defend my position with my own judgements. Once I learned to listen closer to what they say and leave room for compassion to build, the words that need to be said come quite easily. Sometimes there is nothing you can say and that will speak louder.
manuel germany :):  For me a very great insight was the 3 conditions each emerging free race in the universe need to fulfill to maintain their freedom and sovereignty: 1) Unity and cooperation 2 ) Self-sufficiency and 3) Discretion… and that we do not fulfill not even one of these and that if we do not change as humanity, we are heading towards catastrophe and will be losing our freedom to extraterrestrial powers. But thanks to the New Message from God this is not going to happen…
LaRae_Ottawa:  Allies is finally forcing me to give up those much cherished projections, it is forcing me to face reality and even to speak out loud to others about it. It is by far the most difficult portion of TNM for me to get my head around.
Joyanne_Canada:  @Kelvin, God takes us out of our dilemma by giving us something greater to do.. Advocacy.. 
Paul_MA:  Manuel/Germany– the 3 conditions apply to each of us as they do to the human family.
Corey::MedHat:  @Robert I do not see people REALLY consider how big space is and how much life is ACTUALLY (to them perhaps potentially) out there. I feel like the competition aspect pertaining to all life in the Universe is either largely ignored or presented unrealistically.
Alisa_Russia:  Our asset is our spirituality, our ability to think and see beyond the physical. The Intervention is threatened by this and though they may not want our spirituality, they don’t want us to have it either. For if you are not tied to physical things, you are free.
Matt_bzn:  Kari – it is interesting. Dr. David Jacobs lamented that fact in a recent interview. That the “serious” researchers are old now (and in the case of Budd Hopkins and John Mack, deceased), and that there are no young researchers taking their place…
Alexandra_NL:  @Kelvin_BOulder: “There is a concerted effort to keep us fixated on ourselves, period. Our advocacy is to call people out of that fixation and to become aware of the bigger picture that is all around us, around our world,…”- I have witnessed the empowering affect you mention in my own life..
Jorge_Spain:  @Shane, “Even fanciful expectation, hopeful expectation, really has fear at its core because you are uncertain, because you do not know, because you are unprepared, because you realize in a moment of honest recognition how vulnerable you really are, living on the surface of your world, exposed to the universe and undefended.” THE PROBLEM OF HUMAN DENIAL
Wendy from Albany NY:  Alisa, I like that: if you are not tied to physical things, you are free. So yes to Minimalism, huh?
Tom_SanFrancisco:  @MaryL, strange to be on the menu, huh? im a little more used to that from being in Grizzly country and Polar bear country and surfing great whit shark waters. but consider the possibility that humans could be farmed like we raise chicke
Erik_OR:  @MaryL: mineral resources, biological resources, and even intelligence (the Intervention using human beings to further its own ends). The Wisdom chapter on Intelligence describes it as another valued commodity in the GC.
Samantha_South Africa:  @LaRae I resonate with your statement – this is really difficult for me too, to face this reality and speak about it to others, I am still struggling with the voice that says – “People are going to think you are insane if you speak about this to others!”
Maria_Boulder:  Before the briefings/teachings I felt a great concern about how I(we) was going to be able to accurately discern the truly helpful alien from the harmful ones. How would I be strong and clear enough to not be deceived. It was a great relief to me to learn, that none that are here, hold our best interest at heart.
Alisa_Russia:  @Matt – I see this as a universal problem. There used to be a lot of wisdom in the world, but somehow it is dying out with the older generation and the younger generation, in general, is not taking up the baton.
Martin_Australia:  @Shane, good point. It seems to have a lot to do with covering the fear. I see people joking about peoples experiences and making light of the situation, yet within they must know the seriousness of the situation
Kari_H_Finland:  “” Many people think that if humanity were to encounter another race of beings in the universe, this race of beings would be inordinately interested in humanity” Yes Amina, humanity needs this eye opener, because we believe that a human being is the pinnacle of evolution and this belief is deep rooted with hundreds or even thousands of year of human history in this planet.
Paul_MA:  Tom-it is the biological resources of this planet- both plant and ahimal that are of great value…Humans are like cattle to them.
Matt_bzn:  Ayesha – the same stands for me. The second I finished the book “The Threat” years ago, I knew I was wrong and that something was seriously amiss. Thank God for TNM. It is the only way out of this.
Virpi_Finland:  I guess most expect a cosmic babysitter for humanity to arrive, and visitors are supporting that idea: they do not want us to know we have power.
Ken-Oklahoma:  @Manuel_Germany – These are such monumental requirements, “1) Unity and cooperation 2 ) Self-sufficiency and 3) Discretion”. Can Humanity succeed?…..we must succeed, somehow humanity must remain a free and sovereign race.
Kristina_Boulder:  I feel frustrated when people say that they don’t believe that there are other intelligent life forms out there. Many of these people are quite smart and I always wander how can they possibly think that we are the only intelligent race in the vast Universe? I always remember comparison with sand on the beach and how our world is only one of this sand crystals.
Ayesha_Society:  @Mathieu, The world is already overwhelming and looking for hopeful things is only a natural. Yes, the need for discernment and capacity is so needed here, which is what our preparation is providing us the opportunity to do.
Douglas_St. Paul:  Who knows, maybe one of us will take up the mantle of David Jacobs
Shane – New Zealand:  @Jorge_Spain Thank you

Alio-Texas:  Intervention work is an “Infowar” of sorts. Linda Moulten Howe received the “Allies of Humanity” and I see her perspective shifted to cautionary. She is a loud voice in the world and following her around in support with the Allies perspective will help.

Robert RE: radio talk shows…. It’s our job to be calling in and mentioning the Allies perspective. I’ve gotten through to Clyde Lewis a couple of times. It takes a lot of time but it’s an important space to be working.

If 50 of us were trying, one of us will get through on Coast to Coast. That could be happening nightly.

Levy_Brazil:  Yes @Erik, I’ve seen many people “running with” whatever they assume the ET presence is and adding their own human twist to it, adding further complexity to the deception.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @”How is the Teaching on contact with intelligent life presented in the Core Revelation different from what many people interested in life in the universe and spirituality assume to be true?People I met who are interested and assume it to be true,are or romanticising live in the universe others are not sure about there intentions and few do not trust them at all.
I have seen so many different stories when I was seeking the truth about this,before I found the NM ,that I did not trust there intentions.
Raoul_Australia:  @Mike LF, re. “thinking deeply about how serious a threat the Intervention is to “human values””, definirtely…serious and so glaringly obvious from the vicious activities carried out even at individual level.
Mathieu-France:  @Kelvin: yes, even if for the individual the greater picture can be scary, nothing else with calls forth more powerfully our real strengths. We may not realize it at first, and even fight it often, but this greater inclusion and perspective is what will take us out of our prison of Separation, to start remember who we are and why we came here and what we came here to do…. to finally do it.
Alisa_Russia:  @Kristina – that always bothers me too. How can people think that? It just makes no sense.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Well said Mike_LF! That hits home for me!
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Jeanne_Boulder, “…you think this is bad, we are not even telling you everything”, I would just like to add that someone has to stand against the monsters in the night to protect the children, who is going to stand and face them to save the children? I say tell me everything so I can stand and face the threat in the middle of the night…
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Ray Hobbs!
Matt_bzn:  Well said Mike
Dariel_Boulder:  A phrase I hear bandied about often is, “Its all good.” As if anything that occurs will be turned, by God, into something beneficial. This certainly places no responsibility for discernment on the individual. Many people want to believe the Intervention–if there is one–is beneficial. As a 1st responder I must have compassion here. To see the Intervention as a threat with no knowledge of KN would be extremely overwhelming and frightening.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Yes Samantha, it is so difficult, but it is also necessary. Marshall often says that when we speak of the Greater Community people don’t forget it. We have to plant those seeds.
Alisa_Russia:  Powerful, Mike!
Amina Russia:  #Kristina Boulder, i truly resonate with that, when i shared this Revelation with “smart and intelligent” people, they actually laughed…and some are religious and some are not…
Robert_Society:  I also think that this question of the GC is directly related to “What Really Matters” for us. It is a boil down of what we and others must be doing to prepare and move with The Way of Knowledge to be effective in our engagement with the GC.
Selma London:  Mathiueu, it’s interesting what you say (‘I think there is such a natural tendency to just hope life out there is better than how we know it down here, because we seek relief from our struggle with a disappointed experience of the world’) – as for me it’s such a reassurance and inspiration to hear about free worlds in the Universe – how rare and magnificent they are, and what amazing things they can achieve. This gives me such encouragement, and I feel really helps to show that there certainly is a way forward, even though a hard climb – although I find that thrilling, and part of what makes life fulfilling.
Maria_Boulder:  @ Kristina-Boulder, have felt the same…It amazes me as well…I can not remember a time when it was not a given for me, that there were other forms of intelligent life in the Universe…
Mark – IL:  Considering again the work of Dr. David Jacobs, it is apparent that the intervention is presenting itself in the human form. This very much complicates discerning their presence. Coupling that with their abilities at mental manipulation, I wonder how many of our accepted social and political leaders under their influence. My sense is that many are, based on their actions (rather than their words); however, that is difficult to prove. To me, this relates directly to the current theme of ‘fake news’. In a world where our mainstream media has discredited itself for political or other purposes and the internet provides the greatest speakers of truth alongside the most disreputable voices to be found, it has become very difficult to discern what is ‘the truth’. I hear the comment often from friends, “I don’t know who or what to believe anymore.” Seems to me that this confusion of truth plays well into the hands of the intervention, and calls even more for Knowledge in discerning…
Mark – IL:  … truth. I would not have recognized so clearly this condition prior to exposure to the New Message.
Alisa_Russia:  @Maria – same here.
Amina Russia:  #Alisa Russia, yes, most people can not even consider that idea, it is too shocking
Debbie_MI:  About a year prior to me finding out about the New Message, I began to realize that there already was an alien presence on the earth and that really scared me. I hoped that not all aliens on the earth had bad intentions but I was confused and uncertain as to what to think. When I read the AOH, it became obvious that what they were saying was the truth.
Jorge_Spain:  “People have their grand notions of intelligent life in the universe and advanced technology and other races of altruistic beings out there floating around. Yet the thing that people are most afraid of is that they will encounter others like themselves, but more powerful.” THE PROBLEM OF HUMAN DENIAL
Paul_MA:  “What Really Matters”… this is a great tool to focus on priorities… And it is another sign of the quickening of events and to do what only Really Matters.
Mathieu-France:  But it’s like the Steps: there are moments when it feels too much and you want to give up. It’s wise to acknowledge the feeling and to know that your personal mind is having a hard time… so we breathe a bit, gather ourselves, and continue… it calls out of us a real strength, because it stretches us much further than we thought we could 
MVS Society:  As long as you want something from the Intervention, you will not be able to see it clearly. To know the truth in this matter and in many other matters as well, you cannot be governed by fear or preference.
Kari_H_Finland:  @Mike, I have also realized what a terrible place world would become under the control of intervening forces. It has been stated in the NMG that they will not treat us better than we treat our domesticated animals.
Kelvin_Boulder:  @Alexandra, Same for me, if there is an effort to keep us fixated on ourselves, and this is the global environment we are living in, then we have to do whatever it takes to balance that out. Another student shared this STEP 44 during our weekly Tuesday med ” Do not let thoughts alone dissuade you, for fears and doubts are only thoughts—vaporous things that cross your mind like clouds. Beyond the clouds of your mind is the great universe of Knowledge.” We have o many tools to break off the mental conditioning we find ourselves in and help others.
Matt_bzn:  @Alisa – they have been conditioned to social media, constant electronic distraction, zero independent thinking. I totally agree
Danny_Australia:  @Kelvin We have the tools YES
mellany UK:  True wisdom comes from Knowledge, and we’re here to serve “a world without Knowledge”. I remember when I had no interest in ET/UFO, and a time shortly after knowing that they [ET] were here, hoping, believing that they were here to help. I remember how it felt, to be in that state of misunderstanding and confusion … this helps engender compassion towards people who are in a similar state. Having said that, I’m sometimes more assertive in my GC advocacy, because false hope and passivity can be blinding, numbing.
Alio-Texas:  Dariel: Bumpersticker: “It’s not all good” Alliesofhumanity.org
Jorge_Spain:  “Do not think you can read this discourse or read The Allies of Humanity Briefings and say, “Well, I understand now. I know what to do.” You do not yet know what to do. But you may be beginning to gain an understanding. If this stirs something within you deeply, then Knowledge within you is being activated. But there is much to learn ahead. […] The learning will have to be rapid. Do not think you already know or understand. You do not. You may have an idea. You may experience a resonance with this message. You may feel it is important, but you still have to train and prepare. You don’t climb the highest mountain in the world because you love mountains. You don’t climb the highest mountain in the world because you have hiking boots. You have to train and prepare, or you won’t make it.” THE PROBLEM OF HUMAN DENIAL
Paul_MA:  Kari- we would become the domesticated animals of the NewWorld.
Wendy from Albany NY:  Kevin, re the effort to keep us fixated on ourselves, I now understand how much of a set-up our consumer society is.
Mathieu-France:  @Selma: yes, I agree the free worlds are inspiring. It’s not the part that scares people, it’s that they are not the ones coming to visit us : )
LaRae_Ottawa:  Wow, that is powerful MVS thank you. By wanting something from them, we are simply handing our power to them which is exactly what they want.
Erik_OR:  Thank you, Marshall.
Jeanne_Boulder:  I agree HE PROBLEM OF HUMAN DENIAL
Samantha_South Africa:  @LaRae – thank you for so much for your reminder
LaRae_Ottawa:  My pleasure Samantha…..
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “If you are practicing stillness meditation, such as in Steps to Knowledge, and you cannot still your mind it is best then to practice this observation. Watching your thoughts pass like a parade letting the mind do whatever it wants to do and listening deeply within yourself.
You are bringing the same practice here to your inner world to the stream of consciousness; this is particularly important at times when you are aroused either positively or negatively to step back and watch this and practice inner listening.
So you see here The Art of Seeing applies to your outer world, it applies to things you are familiar with and things that you are not familiar with. ” The Art Of Seeing https://newknowledgeli…load/
manuel germany :):  @Ken-Oklahoma. We will succeed, because the presence, influence and pressure exerted by the Greater Community will be exactly that force what will bring the best out of the people: to unite and to cooperate throughout the world, to restore the environment and to implement the rules how we want to deal with alien powers. And to be careful about our communications…

Levy_Brazil:  This is pertinent to this session, from Allies Book 2:

“The First Step in Counteracting the Intervention is Awareness, but the Awareness Really
is a Big Threshold Because of People’s Fear, Anxiety and Failed Idealism. Can you face your own
fear? Can you face your own vulnerability? Can you face the fact that perhaps you have been really
wrong in your assessment of the situation, if you have given it any thought at all? People may say,
“Well, ok, we get the awareness. Now what’s the next thing?” Ha! They don’t see that the awareness is
really big!”

Alisa_Russia:  Interestingly, although I have no trouble accepting that there is an Intervention and what it will lead to if we do not resist, I experience no actual evidence in my life. My Step today is Step 64 in the Continuation Training is The World is Emerging into the Greater Community. I Can Know This. I do know it, but I have no idea how I know.
Matt_bzn:  @Kristina – perhaps this will help. I get it all the time. I simply say “There is no belief you can reply upon. Either you know or you don’t know – what do you really KNOW about it”. It gets them thinking…
Paul_MA:  Humanity is emerging out of isolation… Question- has humanity been purposefully kept in isolation? If so, why? or has it been an accident that we have been in this state?
Aurora_Hawaii:  @Maria I am aiming to improve my own discernment with this learning. I had heard that those that are helpful will respond to requests for assistance, so there may (?) be some active now – after so many requests – but knowing how to tell is really crucial. So I agree.
Raoul_Australia:  Regarding what I “…assumed to be true before finding the New Message and Allies Briefings?” I can still remember the pain I was feeling as the Allies’ briefings and the NM started dismantling my wishful assumptions regarding the Intervention. I was a beneficial pain, like a medicine that initially hurts but then heals you.
Levy_Brazil:  Again, “the awareness is really big!”
Mathieu-France:  @Jorge: The Problem of Human Denial: such a powerful and relevant Teaching.
LaRae_Ottawa:  A powerful reminder Jorge….thank you.
Matt_bzn:  @Douglas – Dr. Jacobs has his “final book” coming out shortly.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “It applies to your engagements with others and your activities in the world and what you do with your mind from moment to moment. For the mind to serve you truly as it is designed to do then you must either be practicing this kind of presence of mind, or being present to the mind and to your outer and inner world, or the mind is at rest or engaged in a simple and beneficial activity. These three things give the mind a reprieve and also develop its greater abilities.
Why is it a developed person can look into your mind and discern your motivations but you cannot look into theirs and to see? It is because they are more present and focused upon you then you are upon them and they have developed these greater powers of the mind.
In the Greater Community of life in the universe around you there are races that have developed these skills at a very high level. It is not that they are basically more intelligent than you are it is just that this has been a major focus and a major need. …
Wendy from Albany NY:  Paul, my question also, has our isolation been deliberate?
Maria_Boulder:  @ MVS- that is an incredible attainment:”to not be governed by fear of preference” in order to be able to see the truth of the matter…makes clear the work I have yet to do. Both fear and preference definetly arise for me in facing the intervention! But does not even resistance indicate a preference?
Robert_Society:  As the hour comes to a close, let’s pause in an Hourly together. Let this simple action done by more and more people open a way for that which is good, real, and true to permeate this world.
Kristina_Boulder:  @Amina, not many people are considering the idea of life out there, because as Kelvin mentioned earlier, they are too preoccupied with themselves. I think there is a big difference when people know internally that there is intelligent life out there, but just do research this in details and when people just don’t even want to entertain the possibility. In my experience this happens because of fear, fear of what it might mean for them and their believe system and how and what they must change now.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Beautiful analogy Raoul…….my experience was similar.
Tonia_Denmark:  I find the teaching much more mature, well grounded, profoundly well described, and like a map to discover to truths within. And not colored with feelings, which can make it difficult to stay focused on what is said there.
Tom_SanFrancisco:  @matt, please announce when the book is out, thanks.
Dariel_Boulder:  Yes, Raoul, the threat to human values and all we hold as important, all we have accomplished in terms of human civilization–and all we, as students of KN, are working reclaim in the Way of KN–are all at risk as the Intervention grows strong. This is not just in our time but for generations and generations to come. If we lose our freedom to the Intervention, winning it back will be the work of generations and generations.

Shane – New Zealand:  “Nothing in the Universe can overtake Knowledge. Your intellect can be overtaken. Your feelings can be overtaken. Your attitudes can be directed. Your thoughts can be conditioned. Your feelings can be aroused and manipulated. But Knowledge within you is beyond persuasion and manipulation. And this is why it represents the greatest source of strength and freedom for you and for everyone.”

~ Freedom from Manipulation, October 7, 2008

Levy_Brazil:  @Paul, I understand isolation is a typical event in rich worlds like ours. Others only come in great numbers when they can use a networked-enough big-enough work-force.
Matt_bzn:  @Alio – Linda spoke at a UFO conference with Marshall years ago in Denver. I went to her and asked her to sit in on the session. She declined. She is becoming a shill for the Intervention I am afraid.
Amina Russia:  #Kristina Boulder, yes, as MVS just said, fear and preference. Also humans way too preoccupied with the survival, themselves and this world.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “When you are engaging with different races in the universe you must be very discerning. Language is a problem; you are dealing with other kinds of consciousnesses, other kinds of values and ethics, you are dealing with beings who think differently, live according to different principles have different experiences have had to face different things in their history.
How will you ever be able to communicate with them effectively? How will you ever be able to understand them or see them correctly? How will you ever be able to know their true motives and abilities?
It will take great presence mind, highly developed skills to be able to do this but if humanity is to function in this Greater Community of life it must elevate its abilities in this regard, especially for those individuals that are destined to become real seers. The Art of Seeing https://newknowledgeli…load/
Lin_Boulder:  @Levy, exactly! ” If you can see this, it will be a great blessing. It will be a revelation. It will be a real turning point for you as an individual.”-Humanity’s emergence into the Greater Communiity
MaryL_Boulder:  @Alisa/Kristina: Intelligent thinking is still thinking within a box and Knowledge is not self constructed and beyond the world. Without the Greater Community educations from the NMFG and especially the Allies briefings I had the same ideas and disbelief about aliens. Now I hear them (where is the proof or evidence?, if they are real why don’t they land on the White House, they must be good or they would destroy us, they are here to save/enlightened us, etc etc) and thank God for the NMFG. Education is usually rote or memorization and not usually critical thinking. I had only one class in college “How to Lie with Statistics” and that help me to see past numbers. New Message gives us an education and preparation for the new world otherwise we are just as unprepared as everyone else.
Patricia_Society:  @all regarding the Afterglow time for Marshall after receiving “What Really Matters”, please feel free to leave a comment there in the Journal after the account. Your testimony and witnessing there stands as living evidence of the impact, so that those from the wider world, who may later come to scrutinize and examine the claim of a man saying he is receiving a new message from God, may feel the larger human presence and impact, leaving them with the legitimate and real burden of discerning how real this claim is..http://www.newmessage….tters

25068:  Some important news i’d like to share with everyone. On August 21st, the newest book of the New Message will be released to the world: ”The Greater Community: Contact with Intelligent Life in the Universe.”

This book contains a world proclamation of the coming of the Greater Community, and is meant to spark the beginning of a Greater Community awareness for millions of people now and in the years ahead. I really feel the release of this book is a major opportunity for Marshall, The Society and the Worldwide Community to take Greater Community education and awareness in our world to the next level, to reach many new people with the news, awareness and understanding that we face the biggest event and threshold in the history of humanity.

I’d like to invite everyone here on the chat to work with Marshall, myself and The Society in a campaign this Summer/Fall to bring the Greater Community book of Revelation to new people. A lot of exciting opportunities are opening now for us to reach…

25068:  … new people in the months ahead. We have quite the resources for this: The Allies of Humanity Briefings, Life in the Universe and now a new book of Revelation: The Greater Community. Tyyne has more details on this…
Josef Austria:  AoH provided me in the end with the golden thread through the ET/ abduction issue.

Tyyne_Society:  Kickstarter Campaign: The Society launched a Kickstarter campaign https://www.kickstarte…ad-woto get “The Greater Community” book out into the world in order to reach new people who are not yet aware of the Greater Community and to also express the value this book has for humanity and each individual.

How you can help: Please check out the Greater Community campaign page here http://www.newmessage….paign
and find out about all the ways in which you can help bring “The Greater Community” to people worldwide.

Pre-order: You can also pre-order “The Greater Community: Contact with Intelligent Life in the Universe”, the 4th book in Volume 1 of the New Message from God, before it is available in print August 21st at https://newknowledgeli…rder/

Thank you everyone.

Martin_Australia:  Mellany, I am 100 per cent with you in what you say about being hopeful and confused before and now being compassionate yet assertive in advocacy. That is my experience too
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “It is a very important role in engaging with the Greater Community. Here the individual probably have natural inclinations and endowments that give them a greater advantage in this matter but they still must train and prepare.
A training and preparation very different from anything taught in your universities or educational institutions. They take these basic skills and all the arenas of applications and elevate it to a very high degree. They can sit for days focusing on something only taking time for rest and nourishment.
They can hear things you cannot hear and see things you cannot see and discern the motivations and the influences in the mental environment. Things that you could not recognize because their range of sight is deep and their presence of mind is powerful … and their engagement with Knowledge is strong.
They can see farther and hear more. They are extremely patient. It might take days weeks or months to have a final recognition regarding something important, … but…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … they will be present for that.’
The Art of Seeing https://newknowledgeli…load/
Alison_Boulder:  ADVOCACY GATHERINGS are every Thursday at Uberconference.com/NewMessage, 6:30pm MDT or 7pm BST. Need some help or have advocacy questions? alison@newmessage.org 
Here is an example of a concerted Advocacy effort on Twitter. We are re-tweeting the words of MVS and the official NM Twitter account to let the world know a Messenger is receiving urgent information about the Great Waves, highlighting the recent event of the breaking off of the Larsen C ice shelf. https://twitter.com/ma…40288
LaRae_Ottawa:  Oh that is wonderful news 25068. I am so looking forward to it…..and will share it widely.
Tyyne_Society:  Thank you, Reed, for sharing this important news about The Great Community book release and campaign. Following that are some ways to get involved.

Carol_Society:  IMPORTANT REMINDERS:

Again: “Receiving ‘What Really Matters’” – The Afterglow account from Patricia Summers of the revelation received by the Messenger on June 26, 2017, in Boulder, CO:
http://www.newmessage….tters
“Methodology for a Deep Study Practice.”
Listen to Patricia Summers sharing an advanced Deep Reading and Deep Listening Practice given to us by the Messenger:
https://docs.google.co…3i6ru

Campfire Chat Transcriptions: http://www.newmessage….ripts
Today’s Chat transcript will be posted at the end of our discussion.

Kari_H_Finland:  Thank you Jorge for that passage. I needed to read that. I have been wondering where my eagerness to tell the world about the Intervention has disappeared.
Ken-Oklahoma:  Who are you 25068?
Matt_bzn:  @Mark – great points and I agree. I have totally quit watching television for that reason (except the occasional football game. LOL
Alisa_Russia:  @MaryL – thank you for your words. I am so grateful that I do not think the way a lot of people think. I am so grateful to be a part of this community of like-minded people who know the truth.
Robert_Society:  We’d like to thank you all once again for your support and participation in the Free School Chats and in the mission of the New Message. This environment is becoming an invaluable learning ground for all students of Knowledge. Please continue this discussion over the next hour together if you wish. Let us strive together up this great mountain with perseverance and courage so that we may be of true and lasting service here in the many ways that are needed. Nasi Novare Coram
Paul_MA:  Watchtower– the new iceberg broken away… A very significant event that has happened in the dead of the ANtartica winter, yet not much of this is in the news…a
Raoul_Australia:  I hope this school session brings more students to the Allies’ Forum http://alliesofhumanit…orum/
there is a wealth of information that has been shared there over the years that can be reviewed, and it is a safe environment to ask questions and spark up discussions.

Alio-Texas:  Matt It was just more recent in 2015 when I handed Howe 8×11 print out of the Allies, personalized in manila envelope and asked her to place it in the bathroom for morning glimpses. After that is when her perspective seemed to shift from savior to sneaky tricks.

Yes she was previously sold on space angels.

Selma London:  Alisa – I was on that CT 64 Step yesterday!
Tom_SanFrancisco:  @rayhobbs; thanks for the links.
Alisa_Russia:  @Selma – 
Carol_Society:  @Raoul: Yes, thank you for reminding us of the Allies Forum!
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “When you are looking and listening you can discern the dynamics of any human engagement the quality of peoples approach the degree of their honesty. You can discern their condition and position compassionately. You can discern even their readiness to learn greater things. You can discern should you speak or not whether you should offer something or not whether you should change the conversation or not.
Here you are not compelled to talk or the need for social recognition. You break these bonds these compulsions these habits these addictions by practicing the Art of Seeing.
Steps to Knowledge will give you the pathway to develop these greater skills and you need them you need them now you needed them yesterday you have needed them all along, but your education has taught you to think of things that have little value and to follow other people around as if you were part of a herd of cattle, to think in step with others and to become obsessed and engaged in social discourse however…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … meaningless and immature it might have been.
Now you are stepping back.
Alisa_Russia:  This is such a unique environment. There is nothing else like on earth, or perhaps anywhere else in the Universe. What a precious opportunity we have. So grateful to you all for your presence and sharing.
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Lin for sharing ” If you can see this, it will be a great blessing. It will be a revelation. It will be a real turning point for you as an individual.”
Virgie_near Seattle:  A question maybe someone can help clarify for me(?): The Revelation makes it very clear that as advocates of the NMFG we’re not to argue about its truth–but when it comes to speaking out about the Intervention … it seems like there is a place for presenting logical analysis of the data(?). Of course, it’s never a good idea to waste time arguing with someone who is not open-minded, but it seems a lot of people are mainly just ignorant, not necessarily willfully ignoring the evidence. That’s how I would have described myself and my thoughts about life in the universe (few as they were) before last year.
Ayesha_Society:  Thank you all so much for participating in this chat, so great to have shared this hour with you, and so lively! NNC
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Gain skill as you practice; seek the assistance of someone who is practicing and is more advanced than you if that is possible. Know that you cannot teach yourself, you must practice using a greater curriculum, a greater guidance and a higher quality of engagement with a least one other person.
Think of the Messenger and what he must practice. Share his practice.” The Art of Seeinghttps://newknowledgeli…load/
Kristina_Boulder:  “You have come into the world to serve the world under these very circumstances. You are not here by accident. What has really brought you into the world is connected to humanity’s emergence into the Greater Community and to the great difficulties that humanity will face here on Earth as the result of its misuse and overuse of the world.” This is a good motivation to continue advocacy and translations.
Mark_Boulder:  @Virgie. Share your experience and point to the revelation.
Tyyne_Society:  @Virgie – you can also see the Kickstarter campaign listed above which has data Reed compiled that can be support what you are talking about.
manuel germany :):  Many thanks @Shane – New Zealand for the very important truth and reminder: “Nothing in the Universe can overtake Knowledge.Your intellect can be overtaken. Your feelings can be overtaken. Your attitudes can be directed. Your thoughts can be conditioned. Your feelings can be aroused and manipulated. But Knowledge within you is beyond persuasion and manipulation. And this is why it represents the greatest source of strength and freedom for you and for everyone.” 
Alisa_Russia:  @Virgie – in those cases I point them to the AOH Briefings or a specific revelation and invite them to explore themselves, saying – you will find a great deal of clarification here.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Mark_IL (8:54) Right on brother!
Matt_bzn:  @rayhobbs – once again, your knowledge of the teaching is awe inspiring. Thank you
Samantha_South Africa:  @Paul – I read of this in our Mail and Guardian this morning – small quotation “Although this is a natural event, and we’re not aware of any link to human-induced climate change, this puts the ice shelf in a very vulnerable position. This is the furthest back that the ice front has been in recorded history.”
LaRae_Ottawa:  That is an excellent reminder rayhobbs. I always test the waters before mentioning anything. Taking Steps has helped me with much needed discernment.
Lin_Boulder:  Thank you Ayesha and Robert for hosting today’s chat.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  ““There is a calling for you in the world but first you must prepare, you must prepare your life and with the assistance of Knowledge you must clear a path, you must bring resolution to that which requires resolution, you must seek to separate yourself from that which requires you to do so, you must honor that which you must carry forward and learn to tell the difference between what is good from what only looks good, from what is real from what you want, from what is beneficial from what only promises to be beneficial. It is only at the realm of deeper experience that you can make these distinctions, to have this discernment and bring this discernment into your life every day. It is this that will save your life and your time and your energy; it is this that will open you to greater relationship with others and to prepare you for the greater purpose that has brought you into the world, a greater purpose that is waiting to be discovered.”

“”If you know you are not living the life you…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … are meant to live … then you must withdraw to find out why.”

Spiritual Retreat https://newknowledgeli…load/
Matt_bzn:  @Tom – I will stay on it Brother
Paul_MA:  Samantha- thanks… seems like they are trying to induce some complacency here.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  ” A Teacher who understands the deeper life a Teacher who will assist you in discovering and experiencing what you really feel and know about your circumstances. But even contact with a Teacher during a retreat should be very minimal and sometimes is not necessary at all.

Your retreat is a withdrawal from influential people for the most part.

You are seeking your own internal compass now, …” Spiritual Retreat https://newknowledgeli…load/
Alisa_Russia:  @Kristina – I am with you on that “This is a good motivation to continue advocacy and translations.” I thought the same when I read that passage 
Ken-Oklahoma:  @MaryL_Boulder – The common statements that I see on FB are: “where’s the proof” or “there are good and bad ETs” , “they are here to help us”, “they are are our space brothers”, “the ET are already here and in control”, “the ETs can’t be worse for this planet than humanity” and “all things happen for good reason, everything is good”. I am thankful for all the NM advocates that comment and engage people with these understandings.
Kristina_Boulder:  I think education is really the key here. People believe what they want to believe because they got this ideas and information from society, religions, governments, other people and so on. Not many people can think for themselves. So if we provide this education, by sharing AOH and LIU, GCS this will hopefully resonates with them or at least add to their choices, so they have more to choose from what they believe in.
Levy_Brazil:  That’s a comprehensive list, Ken!
MVS Society:  Dear all, in your GC outreach efforts send people to the Allies. Let the Allies present the big picture for those who are able and ready to see. It is difficult to present the big picture of the GC yourself. That is why God has called for the Allies to come at this time as part of the Great Coordination to protect and advance humanity.
Matt_bzn:  Great work Alio. We shall see. She has a tremendous following and could be very influencial
MaryS_Boulder:  Virgie, I do find that people who rely on logic as their primary means of knowing, they want to be able to raise objections and receive cogent consideration. The Allies’ presentation was to me convincing because of its cogency.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “You take spiritual retreat to take reprieve from the outer world, but more fundamentally, you take spiritual retreat to come to Knowledge within yourself and you come to Knowledge not as some fantastic or euphoric experience but you come to Knowledge to seek clarity, certainty and resolution. For Knowledge’s first purpose is to unburden you, to clarify your life, to simplify your life, to clear a pathway for you to liberate you from what cannot succeed, to empower you to become free from the pervasive influence of others, the demands and the expectations of others.

Before Knowledge can set you on a higher course in life it must free you from your current burdens and it must teach you another way of thinking and being in this life. It will teach this through the dramatic contrast, the contrast between what you know and the experience of Knowledge and your frantic pursuits, and desires and fears.

Knowledge is quiet so much of the time. Take those things that you think that you want…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … and lay them before Knowledge, if Knowledge is not responding, well; they must not be so important here. If desire or purpose is not at the level of Knowledge why are you giving yourself to this person or thing or this acquisition with such passion? Why are you so captivated and swayed, delirious and intoxicated?

Come to Knowledge and discern it, waiting for you to become sober, creating a contrast that is necessary for you to see the difference between being seduced by something and being true to yourself. You will be shocked to find out how slavish you really are to your wishes and desires, you will be shocked to see how blind and unresponsive you have been to life and how much you have missed as a result.” Spiritual Retreat
Virgie_near Seattle:  Okay. Thank you, Mark, Tyyne, and Alisa … Although … my personal experience has a lot to do with reading and considering what data I could find about the Intervention and other people’s analysis of it …
Paul_MA:  As having worked in the field of “Life Science” or more accurately, Genetic Engineering…all that is writtten with regard to this in the AH series I find to be very truthful.
MVS Society:  Regarding speaking out against the Intervention, consider this wisdom:
MVS Society:  – “Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now excepted was once eccentric: .” Bertrand Russell
Arthur:  I have 5 minutes to annoy you before I’ll head back to my cave.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Thank you MVS…and important reminder.
Val_Westport:  That’s useful, Marshall. I see how sending people to the Allies gives doubters the best information and stops any argument or wasted energy.
Joyanne_Canada:  Thank you MVS, I agree, the Allies Briefings speak and relate the truth much better than I could, and they present a cohesive package that explains so much.
Alisa_Russia:  I also think that love, compassion and kindess are important. I was shocked by one comment with respect to intelligent life in the Universe and humanity’s part in it saying that humans have no intelligence to begin with, so what can be expected of them.
Dariel_Boulder:  Thank you MVS for your wisdom and your life–given to bring God’s New Revelation to humanity and beyond. Thank you for opening the door to the Greater Community–its inevitable emergence and its great opportunity. I am deeply grateful to have been found like a speck and to be part of this.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Thank you Marshall, that removes need for decision in this regard. Much appreciated.
Alisa_Russia:  @Arthur – I am glad you have spoken up 
Douglas_St. Paul:  All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer
MaryS_Boulder:  Hi, Arthur, do give it your best time-limited shot
Carol_Society:  Thank you to Ayesha and Robert for facilitating this another powerful discussion on what is the greatest threshold in human history. And always our gratitude to the Messenger, the Allies, the Angelic Assembly for the opportunity we have been given to develop a greater awareness and a deeper understanding and a preparation for this critical threshold…and the chance to come together to share our experiences around it. Who would have ever thought we would be joined in this way with so many others around the world? So moving it is…
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you, Marshall
Kristina_Boulder:  @MVS, I agree. “You will need strong allies. Think not that you can prepare yourself. It has never been done. Anywhere. So do not think you are the exception to the entire universe.” secret 164
Heidi_Germany:  Thank you, Marshall, for advicing us to ket the Allies speak for us.
MaryL_Boulder:  @Shane, thanks “But Knowledge within you is beyond persuasion and manipulation. And this is why it represents the greatest source of strength and freedom for you and for everyone.” It is only by the grace and power of Knowledge was I able to step beyond my fears. My personal mind can only be afraid of the unknown, what is powerful and anything outside my comfort zone. It may be my natural condition when I am honest. I am only able to be here and do what I do because of I know this to be true.
Alisa_Russia:  @Douglas – that’s a good one!
Debbie_MI:  @Ken-I have seen all these things said on Facebook also and it can be discouraging. But at the same time all these kinds of comments give me even more of an understanding of why advocacy is so important.
Amina Russia:  Thank you, Marshall
mellany UK:  Thank you, Marshall.
Paul_MA:  Face to Face advocacy make a huge impact on people.
MVS Society:  “Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now excepted ACCEPTED was once eccentric”
Alisa_Russia:  There is something empowering about knowing you have an eccentric opinion that will later become self-evident to everyone. Not that I want to say “I told you so!” hehehe
Matt_bzn:  @MVS – years ago, at the Doorway meeting, you were asked to address the question of speaking out against the Intervention vs The Wise Remain Hidden. Your response has escaped me, but perhaps it bears repeating?
Alio-Texas:  I’ve made a FB page called “The Index”. I’m collecting there, amongst other things, quotes referring to various aspects of the intervention to be used in response to various conversations on Youtube and FB. It comes in handy for me and might for others too. https://www.facebook.c…xAll/

Alison, can you remind us of Thursday night advocacy conf call time and call in number?
Debbie_MI:  Thank you Marshall.
Ayesha_Society:  #25068 is Reed_Society
Arthur:  @Alisa @MaryS Will shower you all with my unlimited wisdom !
MaryS_Boulder:  eccentricity, tho. We’re going to limit that suggestion to this discussion on the Extraterrestrial Presence in the world.
Amina Russia:  I needed to hear about the fear to be eccentric…
Virgie_near Seattle:  @MaryS: thank you … yes, I certainly found the AOH briefings to be highly “cogent”–though I really had to do my own research on other voices and information before I could trust them.
Joyanne_Canada:  @Arthur, I have a question, What within you keeps drawing you back to this engagement in our Chat?, have you contemplated that.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Oh that is wonderful MVS….and so true. One of the things I’m grateful for since discovering TNM is that my views were always out of the ordinary and controversial….so encountering resistance is something I’m used too….and not bothered by.
Kelton_Calif:  Thank you Marshall. A great reminder- Point to the Revelation and Point to the Allies briefings. What a load off our shoulders. God bless the Allies of Humanity!
LaRae_Ottawa:  Hello Arthur, good to see you.
Ayesha_Society:  I would like to re-post something that Reed shared
Ayesha_Society:  Some important news i’d like to share with everyone. On August 21st, the newest book of the New Message will be released to the world: ”The Greater Community: Contact with Intelligent Life in the Universe.”

This book contains a world proclamation of the coming of the Greater Community, and is meant to spark the beginning of a Greater Community awareness for millions of people now and in the years ahead. I really feel the release of this book is a major opportunity for Marshall, The Society and the Worldwide Community to take Greater Community education and awareness in our world to the next level, to reach many new people with the news, awareness and understanding that we face the biggest event and threshold in the history of humanity.

I’d like to invite everyone here on the chat to work with Marshall, myself and The Society in a campaign this Summer/Fall to bring the Greater Community book of Revelation to new people. A lot of exciting opportunities are opening now for us to reach…
Ayesha_Society:  … new people in the months ahead. We have quite the resources for this: The Allies of Humanity Briefings, Life in the Universe and now a new book of Revelation: The Greater Community. Tyyne has more details on this…Alison_Boulder:  @Alio : sure, Advocacy Gatherings are at Uberconference.com/NewMessage at 6:30 MDT or 7 BST. Hope to see you!
Alisa_Russia:  @Arthur – I thought you were MIA. Glad I had that wrong.
Shane – New Zealand:  “The ancient voice is beyond fear and when you respond you are beyond fear”
Arthur:  @Joyanne It’s not that I don’t like spending time here, I am just too busy doing nothing at the moment.
Tyyne_Society:  Which are here… Kickstarter Campaign: The Society launched a Kickstarter campaign https://www.kickstarte…ad-wo to get “The Greater Community” book out into the world in order to reach new people who are not yet aware of the Greater Community and to also express the value this book has for humanity and each individual.

How you can help: Please check out the Greater Community campaign page here http://www.newmessage….paign
and find out about all the ways in which you can help bring “The Greater Community” to people worldwide.

Pre-order: You can also pre-order “The Greater Community: Contact with Intelligent Life in the Universe”, the 4th book in Volume 1 of the New Message from God, before it is available in print August 21st at https://newknowledgeli…rder/
Amina Russia:  #Alisa Russia, maybe the Allies will be more easily excepted in Russia
MaryS_Boulder:  Arthur, you and James Taylor sing all the notes and all the words until you learn the song by heart. https://youtu.be/GfJWqjoekow
Levy_Brazil:  Thanks, Shane for “The ancient voice is beyond fear and when you respond you are beyond fear”.
Mathieu-France:  Wonderful news, Ayesha!
Jorge_Spain:  @Virgie, I understand what you say as I struggle with this too, but I don’t have a definite answer
Alisa_Russia:  @Amina – that comment was made by a Russian guy.
manuel germany :):  Thank you Messenger, the good old Russel. It reminded me of Schopenhauer, the German Philosopher about the process of accepting an innovation: “All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”
Joyanne_Canada:  @Shane, so true, listening to that Voice is beneficial in realignment within. Very soothing, yet it brings with it a deeper engagement with their messages.
Joyanne_Canada:  thank you Arthur
MaryS_Boulder:  All I can say about eccentricity is that it sure is good the first manifestation of Knowledge is restraint.
MVS Society:  Dariel, unfortunately, much New Age teachings and assumptions can be easily used for pacification. That is their purpose.
Virgie_near Seattle:  Thanks, Jorge–I was thinking, too, just now … I need to give this serious further consideration … I trust that clarity will arise and I’m grateful for any wisdom others can share …
Arthur:  When I achieve the state I am aiming for I’ll be back. Just thought I would come and tease you for a bit. Bye bye !
LaRae_Ottawa:  Thank you @manuel……wonderful.
mellany UK:  “I’d like to invite everyone here on the chat to work with Marshall, myself and The Society in a campaign this Summer/Fall to bring the Greater Community book of Revelation to new people.” ~ Thank you for re-posting, Ayesha. I look forward to this, and to doing my bit, to help.
Martin_Australia:  The Allies Briefings speak to Knowledge within the individual. They can move people at a deep level. We are looking for those who can feel the truth of what the Allies present. I have been thanking the Allies for their mission and God for sending them
Howard Boulder:  Nice to be with you all today
LaRae_Ottawa:  Be well Arthur.
Lin_Boulder:  Thank you Ayesha and Tyyne for the Kickstarter campaign announcement.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  ““Knowledge is the great endowment. It is within me and you today. Knowledge is calling us and the world is calling us. We must prepare. Knowledge is the bridge to the world and to each other.

Let us learn to cross over this bridge.
We are not alone, and those who are with us have been with us in the past and are with us now. We need them now. And we must call upon them now. For we have come to serve a greater purpose in all of the humble ways that a greater service must be given. This is the blessing of life.
This is the calling of life. This is the requirement of life.
And this is the gift of life.”
Living The Way of Knowledge http://www.newmessage….ledge
MaryS_Boulder:  Vergie, cogency only went so far with me. I finally had to go with the fact that Marshall Vian Summers, entrusted with the Steps, had himself to determine the Allies were cogent according to everything he knew.
Raoul_Australia:  New Age teachings are so easily accepted…falsely soothing aren’t they! Instead, the harsh example of native races on our own planet that have faced intervention is a tough one to ingest for people, but has been quite effective in advocacy…so many of us here today are living in countries where that has been a human tragedy in that country’s past.
Kristina_Boulder:  @Amina, FYI we had increased interest in joining russian AOH FB group lately, about 60 new people in last few days!
Debbie_MI:  @MVS-Thank you again regarding the fear of being eccentric and the importance of sharing the AOH. The irony of it is that the more eccentric thing is how many people just automatically assume the aliens are here to help us without questioning that assumption at all.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Do not be weak and pathetic.
LaRae_Ottawa:  That makes me wonder MVS….A Course in Miracles really resonated for a time, but now I question whether it is a tool of the The Intervention.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Indeed Raoul……
Amina Russia:  #Kristina, happy to hear that! Great news and great job with the advocacy!
Alisa_Russia:  @Kristina – I mentioned to you and Alison that there have been two or three requests to join the group daily, but over the past couple of days it has jumped to five-six.
Mathieu-France:  yes Martin, I have always been amazed by the power embedded in the Allies Briefings, even beyond the mere facts they share with us.There is a tremendous intention, something that have mysteriously activated so many of us… Knowledge speaking to Knowledge. They must be pretty advanced actually, when you think what their side of the mission really means an requires…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Many people are afraid of The Way of Knowledge because they think that it will take away from them things that they want, challenge their goals, threaten their cherished possessions, or disappoint their hopes. This is all foolishness. There is nothing at risk here except the things that you do not really want, the things that you want that you cannot really have and the things that you try to be that are not meant for you. (WGC2.30)
Virgie_near Seattle:  @MaryS … yes … for me, I felt I had to look at the AOH in the context of the NMFG and the NMFG in the context of … well … everything I know–as in, everything I have experienced in life … as both a larger panorama and with regard to many specific issues, my research on e.t.s being just one of those.
Lin_Boulder:  Thank you for the great advocacy work in Russian, @Kristina, @Alisa, @Amina. The Age of Women!
Kristina_Boulder:  @Alisa, Amina, I hope they are also reading AOH, not just joining the group.
Levy_Brazil:  Mathieu, in one of the books the Allies say they/themselves are strong with Knowledge. That alone is lot to contemplate.
mellany UK:  Martin, yes! Deep gratitude for The Allies.
Raoul_Australia:  @LaRae, I don’t know specifically the Course in Miracles, but I found that some books can be really good except for one single message of the Intervention that they contain, buried in a lot of ‘good stuff’…so they are not really good!
MaryS_Boulder:  LaRae, I have ACIM on my radar. I find there are teachings from the 20th century, they could have been delivered before the Allies absconded. We could think of them as little prophetic waves ahead of the Great Wave of Revelation that came through Marshall. Other people catch those waves to their benefit and strength enough to communicate with and acknowledge that power is power.
Alio-Texas:  LaRae RE: ACIM…. I did it for decades but now question any teaching that says the world is not real and all is illusion. That’s pacification program. Just my opinion and as usual controversial.
Shane – New Zealand:  “Do you see here how the poison is immersed in the very food that people want to eat? Spiritual food is being poisoned. How many spiritual teachers today are teaching real discernment? How many are promoting real personal integrity? How many are encouraging people to look clearly and see? How many teachers are encouraging their students to respond to the world? There are indeed some, but look around and you will see the Pacification Program being promoted unknowingly. How perfect this is for the alien agenda.” – Effects of the Pacification Program
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you, Reed for sharing “Some important news i’d like to share with everyone. On August 21st, ~”
MVS Society:  Maria, true resistance to any force in the world or beyond comes from Knowledge. It is the natural “push back” against a destructive force that you are natively designed to face and to resist. Yet you must be able to recognize and discern the correct force to resist. People fail to do this all the time, resisting good things, bad things and things that do not matter.
Amina Russia:  #Kristina, #Alisa, hope so too…. will be sharing firstly the Allies now…wisdom in sharing is appreciated.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Thank you all…….that is so helpful. It’s funny, how easily I dropped ACIM for Steps…..I always had a certain uneasiness with them.
Alison_Boulder:  It is a great time to shake off some of our desires to be liked. People will continue to label us, the teaching and MVS as fearful. It happens all the time. Time to be bold and unpopular (yet discerning), to honor those who are actually waiting for the signal.
MaryS_Boulder:  Shane, that quote is the bomb.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Amen Alison…..
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Some people cannot do this, … they are busy doing nothing …. They want to participate but they cannot , so they try to drag other people down with them …. into their depression and frustration. You cannot save everyone. “Advance up the mountain of life, and you will understand what is below. You can look and see the difficulty people are having at certain junctures along the way, and you will not condemn them for not being with you or for not being further along because you will understand the reality of advancement in life—not just the concept of it or the ideal of it, but the reality. You will understand what real self-application means, what work means and what contribution means. And though you may encourage these in all people and even demand it of those whom you know are capable of giving it at this moment, you will be compassionate to those who cannot. They call for your understanding not your condemnation. They need encouragement, not rejection. Encourage them by your…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … example. You cannot go down the mountain to help them up. You cannot drop everything you are doing to go back where you used to be in order to help people through that stage of life. You have to keep on going. Signal to them that they can make it, but keep going. Do not stand by the side of the road to help others along. You must make the journey yourself. If you stop by the side of the road to help them along, they will advance and you will not. You must journey on. They will follow, for they will have someone to follow. This is kindness. Do not abdicate your own responsibilities even to help others. Fortify your responsibilities to become a man or a woman of Knowledge, and you will help everyone. Set the pace. Make the demonstration.
(WGC2.30 Kindness)
Martin_Australia:  Mathieu, yes, activation is what I was thinking. I have also contemplated how they must be advanced students of Knowledge. Very inspiring, I have immense gratitude for their demonstration and devotion to service.
Matt_bzn:  right on Shane
Douglas_St. Paul:  As I think of the Intervention, I recall a distant ancestor who survived a massacre of Virginia settlers by natives led by Powhatan’s successor. Where will our resistance succeed where they failed? Please advise!
Kristina_Boulder:  Regarding New Age movement. I heard from several people and even from few NM students that Pleiadians are not part of the intervention as they are not present here and that they are here to “help”, same as AOH. We have to be careful what we say to ourselves here….
Mark_Boulder:  i will still love you all if you get rejected online 
Joyanne_Canada:  LOL@Mark, rejection online is still planting the seed, but it may take longer to germiniate.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Indeed Kristina….they are a clever lot….
MaryS_Boulder:  Mark is not lying.
Jorge_Spain:  Thank you for your words, @Alison
Raoul_Australia:  @Kristina, I am totally with you on that!
Alisa_Russia:  @Kristina – I now have questions about the Pleiadians. I once had a past life recall done and was told I came from the Pleiadies – ooopps!
Mathieu-France:  Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram
René_Qc:  visitors can induce dreams…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  You can always tell the pioneers, … by the arrows in their back, …..
Amina Russia:  #rayhobbs_Colorado, thank you, important i think: If you stop by the side of the road to help them along, they will advance and you will not. You must journey on. They will follow, for they will have someone to follow. This is kindness. Do not abdicate your own responsibilities even to help others. Fortify your responsibilities to become a man or a woman of Knowledge, and you will help everyone. Set the pace. Make the demonstration.
manuel germany :):  @Alison. thanks for that: “Time to be bold and unpopular (yet discerning), to honor those who are actually waiting for the signal.” 
Mike_LF_CAL:  @ manuel germany, thanks for that quote!
René_Qc:  i don’t know about the pleadians, but my intuition keeps me away from these stories..
René_Qc:  i know from experience that the visitors can induce dreams to influence us into acepting or softening up to the idea of the intervention..!
Raoul_Australia:  Absolutely René_Qc! Good ‘quality’ lucid dreams, but eventually recognisable
Kristina_Boulder:  @Alison, bold and unpopular, I like that.
Douglas_St. Paul:  The peace treaties between the Europeans and native tribes seemed to be a good idea at the time for both parties, and were observed for decades, but sowed the seeds of later subjugation.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Who takes the journey? Who makes the decisions? You do. You apply yourself. You share your journey with others who can keep pace with you. You give encouragement to those who are just behind you. And you keep your eyes on those who are just ahead. In this way everyone follows and everyone leads. Everyone receives inspiration and everyone gives inspiration at the level of life at which they live. With this, humanity moves forward as a whole. Rather than a few individuals escaping the well of ignorance, everyone takes a step away from it.

(WGC2.30 Kindness)
Darlene_Society:  @Mathieu, “They must be pretty advanced actually” that is a profound understatement to me! I often put myself, a physical being like them, in their shoes…sacrificing everything to be following what God has given them to do, all for the greater good risking so much and sharing such wisdom not preaching, …they are my heroes, advanced and brave and wise…representing true students of Knowledge on a mission. Oh my…
Martin_Australia:  Alison, yes! I was affirming to myself today that I will not be worried about what people think me, I will just speak the truth and use discernment in my communications
Amina Russia:  #Rene Qc, that’s huge!
Levy_Brazil:  Good point, Douglas, about the treaties
Paul_MA:  You are not yet a pioneer until you have earned the arrows into your back.
Kari_H_Finland:  Thank you for this Campfire Chat. Practice calls me. Nasi Novare Coram.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Oh Amen Darlene……their gift is beyond measure.
Alexandra_NL:  Thank you Kari for being here and for being a co-student. NNC
Matt_bzn:  @Douglas – and how about those wool blankets laced with small pox that we shared with the native americans right here at home?
Darlene_Society:  LaRae, their demonstration is beyond measure!
Joyanne_Canada:  NNC all Be Well,
LaRae_Ottawa:  Oh it is…..beyond humbling……
Alison_Boulder:  Thank you to the society for the campaign page. I am looking at it now and I know how to help, because it is clear! I want to add that Advocacy Gatherings and communication with other advocates can really help us get into the details of how and where to share. What a force when i look at these relationships we are constructing. Marshall is not the only structural bridge here.
Matt_bzn:  Great chat today. Thank you all. NNC
Jorge_Spain:  Yes @Matt, many things, now and then, are really a kind of trojan horses.
MVS Society:  Matt, the wise remain hidden, unless they are called to speak up. Knowledge will determine when, where and how this should be done.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Paul_MA: “It is true, you must earn your freedom. It is not free. Every act of courage and integrity requires overcoming something, releasing something and escaping something, both within yourself and outside of yourself. Life is moving. You must move with it. You must prepare for it, you must respond to it, you must feel it and experience it, and you must take action.” Seeing, Knowing and Taking Action
Maria_Boulder:  @ Marshall- thank you for that clarification: “true resistance to any force in the world or beyond comes from Knowledge. It is the natural “push back” against a destructive force that you are natively designed to face and to resist…” I can feel how that has nothing to do with a preference, and how when directed by Knowledge, fear would disappear. I am grateful for some intense events in my life where I have experienced this disappearance of fear.
Ayesha_Society:  The Society just sent out ( a few minutes ago) an email about the Greater Community book announcements. There were some errors to the links, so we are re-sending the same email again very shortly. Therefor you will be two emails, please disregard the first one sent to you. Sorry about that folks!
Paul_MA:  RayH- thanks…we live in a world of action….I have come here to work….and to take action…with courage.
MaryS_Boulder:  I like this artifact of the untold history of the New Message, the bolded instructions here. This site is actually under cold storage but the intructions and the invitation remain open. http://extraterrestrial.wiki/Help:Editing_pages#Editing_rules.2C_editing_conventions.2C_and_formatting
Kelvin_Boulder:  @MVS, thank you for this teaching, “People fail to do this all the time, resisting good things, bad things and things that do not matter.”
Matt_bzn:  Thank you MVS. I will work to be in position for that.
Lin_Boulder:  @Dar, yes, it is heart aching by thinking of the Allies, who left their home world and loved ones to a journey of no return, to help a race not even of their own.
Kristina_Boulder:  Here is an answer to my own question about people not believing in life out there: “It is true that Knowledge must be gained through experience. An intellectual pursuit it is not. Your intellect was not created to comprehend the universe. It was created to negotiate the particulars of your physical life, at which it has become fairly sophisticated. Yet it cannot appreciate what is felt and what is known. Therefore, do not use your intellect inappropriately. It has its true application, and a useful one at that.” #292 SOH
LaRae_Ottawa:  Thank you MaryS…..for the link and for all the amazing work you do…..I’ve so much gratitude to you.
Paul_MA:  Please repeat the note with regard to the note regarding the recent ice break off and its relation to the GWC.
Robert_Society:  Knowing that we represent the truth of the NM and the AOH and humbly standing with and by that truth no matter what contention comes is important and will take the courage and strength of Knowledge within us. Yet, the ability of the world’s controversy regarding the NM and the AOH may propel its awareness quite far and wide, reaching those who may be waiting for them. Can we communicate what must be said and when to others, and in a manner that represents the Grace and Truth behind this communication?
Betty_UK:  Thank you Ayesha
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Steps to Knowledge takes you into life as it is and as it will be. It takes you into your life as it is and as it will be. It enables you to engage with others as they are and as they will be. How simple this is, yet how seemingly difficult it can seem at the outset. As you learn to take the steps to Knowledge and to follow them effectively, your burden will become lighter, for your mind will become free of that which is unnecessary for its happiness and fulfillment. Your life will become free of damaging engagements and meaningless pursuits that have never given you what you have really sought.

These things fall away naturally. They are not taken from you. You leave them aside because you cannot take them with you into a greater experience of life. They are left at the door. You give them up voluntarily. Now you are unburdened. Then the way becomes simpler and greater. With this simplicity and greatness, your experience and understanding become deeper and more penetrating. Your mind…

rayhobbs_Colorado:  … becomes more focused and consistent. Your determination becomes stronger. Your discernment of others becomes clearer and more revealing. Your ability to abide with both truth and uncertainty becomes greater and greater. Here your capacity for relationship becomes far more expanded. This enables you to engage with the great relationships with which you are meant to be engaged in this life. This builds within you a greater capacity for relationship, which will open you to your relationship with the Creator and with the Greater Community of Worlds.

It may be difficult to begin, but if you can begin, you can proceed. If you can proceed, you can progress. If you can progress, you can advance. If you can advance, then you can understand all the stages that preceded this. Then you will understand what it means to begin. Then you will understand what it means to progress and to advance.” GCS, Chapter 24: What is Steps to Knowledge?

Hardev Australia:  @Kristina, thank you for that quote.
Alexandra_NL:  @Lin Now, that is love! …  snif…
LaRae_Ottawa:  Thank you for that Robert…..a sobering reminder of what we came here to do. We must remain strong.
MaryS_Boulder:  Well, now that you mention it, LaRae, I have two blogs, one with a link to What Really Matters http://life-meaning.or…omen/ and another that snagged the Maslow reference from last week. http://life-meaning.or…omen/
manuel germany :):  @Robert_Society: Many thanks for your words… so beautifully expressed
Val_Westport:  Robert, that question is a great challenge and Koan to live from.
Amina Russia:  #Kristina, thanks. Yes, being worldly smart and intelligent is one thing, being connected with Knowledge is another…
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @Robert Society profound words! They touched me! Thank you!
LaRae_Ottawa:  Thank you Mary. I’ve copied them so I may venture to them again upon my return to the UK
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Freedom here is not the freedom to be chaotic it is not the freedom to be dissociative from yourself and others it is not the freedom to lose yourself in fantasy or to give your life to things that have no value no purpose and no meaning. Instead, freedom is the freedom to find and follow Knowledge to really be true to yourself to be true to what is really true within yourself. This is simplicity within you.

You have conflicting desires and you have opposition within yourself primarily because of what you have absorbed from your environment but to an even greater extent you are frustrated and conflicted because you have not found your greater work in the world yet and so the unique nature of your design and make up have not really found their real context for expression. In other words you were designed for something very specific but if you have not found that then your design will be confusing and you will seem to be out of harmony with your current circumstances. Therefore…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … conflicts exist within you but that does not mean that you must resolve them all or to concentrate on them all or to try to follow every motivation within yourself which would only lead you into great confusion and the attempt to live many different lives at once.

In your surface mind there is complexity there is confusion there are different voices different motivations different ideas different passions but at the level of Knowledge deep within you there is one focus and one direction.
You can see here where simplicity really exists and where there’s simplicity comes power, a power that is a function of concentration and Knowledge within you is extremely concentrated. So concentrated it is that it has the power to effect real change in the world and to impact the lives of others in the most potent and meaningful ways.
Do not think simplicity is being stupid or ignorant or unintelligent, no indeed, to be simple is be potent to be focused to be powerful and to be effective.” …
Raoul_Australia:  Thank you Robert for your words, and sobering question!
mellany UK:  Thank you for that important reminder, Robert … to be able to “represent the Grace and Truth” of NMG. I’m reminded of Marshall’s wisdom from the Afterglow “So once you know your role and your purpose, it’s about being in that role and carrying out that purpose. That’s what matters. And your own personal development is related to being in that role appropriately and wisely and carrying forth that purpose as best you can, given the limitations of people and circumstances and everything.”
Patricia_Society:  @ Paul “What Really Matters” – a navigational, essentializing tool…for going forward and plying the waters and discerning where and how to proceed and what really matters…..Thank you all for forming bedrock for this Revelation and Messenger…
LaRae_Ottawa:  Thank you Patricia for being both The Messengers rock…and a centering example for us all. Your service is so appreciated and valued.
Alio-Texas:  Last night’s dream about spreading the word on the intervention, almost with the urgency of the guy in “invasion of the body snatchers”, sweating, running around urging “The pods, the pods, don’t go to sleep” was quite the preface to today’s chat. Definitely a ping dream reminding me to cut out time to stay at work on what we came here to do.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Retreana Carvedan Celton Iy: “Receive the Heart of God through your Spiritual Family that is joined about you.” Nasi Novare Coram Thank you Marshall, Society, fellow Students, Family ….
Mike_LF_CAL:  Gotta run, thanks everyone! MMCM. NNC
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Patricia.
Paul_MA:  My Life is a time-bank in which I have limited time left to live….Using “What Really Matters” is a great way to cut through what truly does not matter in how I spend my remaining time deposit.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Alio, your ability to express yourself and you command of the language and ability to get across what you mean is remarkable. Thank you for your service.
Ellen_Society:  Thank you, Patricia! For all of your incredible inspiration. Bedrock we are becoming, and Bedrock we will remain!
Alexandra_NL:  Yes Ellen!!!
MVS Society:  When was intervention a good thing for a native race…ever!?
Paul_MA:  Boulder CO is and will be the Bedrock of the New World for humanity. We all must carry the seeds and the pathway to Boulder.
MaryS_Boulder:  Looking for that last MVS quote on a tweet soon.
Raoul_Australia:  Thank you Patricia and Ellen, yes! Bedrock we must be!
Paul_MA:  Earth history carries a bounty of Intervention Stories…Share these with people who are in disbelief about this happening on a global scale…

Alison_Boulder:  In googling the definition online, I see this first: the action or process of intervening —
“they are plants that grow naturally without human intervention”.
We wouldn’t want to intervene too much with the seeds we plant, nor disrupt the germinating seeds of insights within.
Darlene_Society:  Everyone here is so needed, so precious, all bedrock and seeds for the future. Thank you all. We can do this. It really matters!
Val_Westport:  On this rock–we all carry a piece of The Rock with us as we are united in Spirit, Knowledge and Purpose. Nasi Novare Coram, dear ones.
Selma London:  Yes Paul, timebanking does put the focus on the value of our time here – the same value for each & every one of us, everywhere in the world!
LaRae_Ottawa:  Thank you MVS, Patricia, Ayesha, Robert, Society and all for another profoundly meaningful chat. Coming here each week helps keep me focused and determined. The strength you all share here means so much….so grateful to you all.
MaryL_Boulder:  The Allies not only corrected and clarified my beliefs about aliens it helped me to see that humans have kept Knowledge alive and are worthy of support by those free races. The Allies’s journey and sacrifice to come here touched me deeply. Before this new perspective of humans I was very dismissive, angry and judgmental about our human race – always focusing on the violence and destruction solely.
Alio-Texas:  LaRae: The ability to arrange words is nearly the only thing of value that I got out of decades with The Urantia Book. As Dad used to say, “All things get used to the good for those who love the Lord. (Truth is Lord)Thank you MVS, Society troopers and all the ground crew for making our work never alone in the world.Peace-Out
Paul_MA:  Mary: “humans have kept Knowledge alive”…..Prior to Marshall’s emergence as the Messenger, do we know of Knowledge in past years of humanity?
René_Qc:  Aurevoir Alio
mellany UK:  Thank you, everyone. See you next week. NNC.
LaRae_Ottawa:  Well I for one am grateful for your ability Alio..
Heidi_Germany:  Thank you, eveyone and not to forget the great demonstration in life of the members of the Society!
MVS Society:  The answer to your quest to know your Higher Purpose is answered here in the largest possible terms. Where you will fit in to this panorama will be revealed as your preparation continues through its stages and as you become more stable, wise and powerful.
Alisa_Russia:  @MVS – I take this with me as I head for bed. Goodnight everyone!
Val_Westport:  Your wisdom blesses us, Marshall; may your words come true.
Raoul_Australia:  Thank you Marshall! I will take this with me now!
Selma London:  Well, the Allies’ intervention is a good thing, isn’t it? Even though they are not colonising – it’s a very specific, targeted intervention, without ambition, yet with the excitement of Knowledge.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you to all! Feeling a deep sense of gratitude for what has been given to each of us and the calling for us to respond to. From the One to the Many to the One to the many. Nasi Novare Coram
Me:  I can’t reply to private messages today. Thanks to those who sent them to me!
Raoul_Australia:  See you soon everyone, many thanks to all, Nasi Novare Coram
Debbie_MI:  @MaryL-Thanks for sharing that. The AOH expression of faith in humanity touched me as well.
Paul_MA:  Does one ever learn of their Higher Purpose in this world? or is it something revealed upon review of one’s life after they pass from this reality?
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Marshall “Where you will fit in to this panorama will be revealed as your preparation continues through its stages and as you become more stable, wise and powerful.”
LaRae_Ottawa:  Thank you MVS for bringing the Greatest Gift humanity has ever received into this troubled world. We cannot fail.
MaryL_Boulder:  @Alio, ACIM there was a student who left NMFG when he came across the Allies briefings. In illusion especially surrounded by a spiritually oriented teaching he felt safer. He could not stay to even develop true strength. It felt like Knowledge was with him when he found the NMFG but the personal mind reacted and took him over. It is a constant struggle to remain a student of Knowledge…ever vigilant on what the mind is telling us over the quiet but persistent voice of Knowledge.
Hardev Australia:  Thank you Marshall for the answer to our quest to know our highest purpose and how it will fit in to this panorama. May Knowledge lead the way. Thank you Society and all. NNC.
Douglas_St. Paul:  May it be with me as you say, Marshall
Jorge_Spain:  Some weeks ago I was thinking about the lessons of intervention here on Earth, and I realized that most of the wisdom we can derive from these wordly interventions can’t really be obtained by reading or listening conventional media. This is a problem. If you go beyond conventional media, you may fall in confusing and deceiving conspiracy realms. But if you assume that conventional media is enough and safe, hardly you will understand anything that has transpired between nations to any degree of depth.
Samantha_South Africa:  Thank you MVS for your words “The answer to your quest to know your Higher Purpose is answered here in the largest possible terms.”
Kristina_Boulder:  Thank you All, NNC
MVS Society:  Selma, the Allies are informing us which is different from Intervention in all ways. It empowers us without displacing or replacing us. It is preparing humanity to be a free race in the universe. This is the highest service a free race could provide for us.
LaRae_Ottawa:  I’ve encountered that difficulty as well Jorge.
Paul_MA:  Jorge- one can learn a great deal about Interventions by reading the true accounts of the American indigenous stories of tragedy.
Shane – New Zealand:  “There is no attempt to induce us with promises of peace and technology and spiritual enlightenment. Here there is no presence in our world acting surreptitiously in secret. It’s just an honest communication of sending their wisdom, without interfering in our affairs. This is ethical contact. Anything beyond that is not ethical contact. It would only be done out of self-interest. All intervention is done out of self-interest (all intervention of this kind).”
-MVS
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you, Marshall. In awe, in gratitude and blessings your way. Thank you, Patricia. Thank you Society.
Robert_Society:  Thanks Mark for the transcript. And thank you all for everything you do for this great cause.
MVS Society:  Read and study this Chat repeatedly throughout the week. Be grateful you are not alone in this world and that your realm of relationship is growing each day as we take the NMG into the world.
MaryS_Boulder:  I would play my only eccentricity card that I had left on nominating Bob Dylan for the John the Baptist for our time.
Alexandre_France:  Thank you all – NNC
Joe & Jos_NL:  Thank you All. Wonderful to be here with you, may the bedrock of the New Message continue to develop. NNC
Adria_work:  Thank you Marshall. Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram
Selma London:  Yes, Marshall. I guess intervention in the vernacular, like medical intervention, can be invasive without overtaking. But, of course, I understand the distinction within the NMG and AoH Briefings – and how important it is too. There are always many paradoxes – like ‘giving’ ourselves to K, without being overtaken. When I listen to the NMG Revelations, I ‘give’ myself to them, and yes, then they empower me.
manuel germany :):  Today I want to express my deepest gratitude to the Allies of Humanity, who represent the free races in our region of our galaxy, and guided by Knowledge and God and under the greatest sacrifice possible (their lives) came to our solar system and gave humanity the wisdom and insights needed to gain not only the perspective, but also the wisdom (that knowledge is the language in the Greater Community) to awake from the bad dream and to eventually mature as a race…
Paul_MA:  Alone I Can Do Nothing: Step 249-…from the book of Inner Knowing.
Paul_MA:  Thank you Mark for posting this Transcript.
Inhee_Korea:  ” Be grateful you are not alone in this world ” Thank you Marshall.
Debbie_MI:  Thank you Marshall.
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Mark.
Kelton_Calif:  Thank you all. NNC
Carol_Society:  @Manual: ” I want to express my deepest gratitude to the Allies of Humanity” Oh, yes, Manual. If we could take a moment to be with them and their great service to us and to the world and to the GC itself…
Levy_Brazil:  Yes, Carol and Manuel
Betty_UK:  Thank you all, with gratitude
Val_Westport:  So much to be grateful for and so many to be grateful to–known and unknown, seen and Unseen. So many Blessings…
Tonia_Denmark:  “Study this chat repetedly throughout the week” – Thank you MVS.
Jorge_Spain:  Yes, @Paul
Samantha_South Africa:  Thank you MVS…
Kelvin_Boulder:  @Manuel, It was reading their Briefings that gave me clarity, strength and lay the foundation to explore the NM at a time when my view of anything “Spiritual” was skewed.
Alexandra_NL:  Thank you all… Nasi Novare Coram
Lin_Boulder:  @Manuel, the Allies have provided everything they can to help humanity, now it is up to us to carry out the great mission and fulfill humanity’s great destiny in the Greater Community.
MaryS_Boulder:  Paul’s question on Knowledge in the world–here is another attempt to “be bold” on that question, also on ice yet still looking for contributors. http://messengerofgod.wiki/
Val_Westport:  Reviewing the Chat is an aspect of my practice each week. There are depths to be mined here.
manuel germany :):  @Kelvin: a mi me paso lo mismo. Si no es por los Aliados de la Humanidad, quién sabe si hubiera conocido al Nuevo Mensaje de Dios…  bueno a lo mejor me hubiera encontrado a mi tarde o temprano también lo bueno te atrapa…
Shane – New Zealand:  Thank you Marshall and all. “Proceed now with a courageous heart, and allow yourself to receive the gift of love from the Creator of all life and the reassurance that you have other races in the universe who support humanity’s freedom and independence. In time, you will come to depend on these two great sources of comfort as never before.” Nasi Novare Coram
Samantha_South Africa:  Thank you all for this meaningful chat.
Kelvin_Boulder:  nnc
Sarita_Ottawa:  Thank you all, NNC
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Thank you Marshall and thank you all!
MaryS_Boulder:  Those two wikis, the http://extraterrestrial.wiki/ and http://messengerofgod.wiki/ showed me the two threads of the NM/AOH need to intersect more than they do. Virgie’s question about people oriented in the mind ends up at the same point: you ask people if their assumptions aren’t all a tad anthropomorphic, and to realize they won’t know until they follow the Steps! [and then listening to everything vetted by this source!] But orienting in the “what do you really know?” of the Steps becomes the orientation for discussion.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Before Knowledge can set you on a higher course in life it must free you from your current burdens and it must teach you another way of thinking and being in this life. It will teach this through the dramatic contrast, the contrast between what you know, … and the experience of Knowledge and your frantic pursuits, and desires and fears.” Spiritual Retreat https://newknowledgeli…load/
Josef Austria:  Thank you dear Marshall for your coming for us to us on earth, for your patience, and for your demonstration of Knowledge! Thank you Patricia and Reed! Thank you Society! Thank you dear fellow students for your presence! Thank you ALL! May Knowledge arise in enough people to thwart this evil Intervention! Nasi Novare Coram!
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “If your spiritual retreat is effective you will begin to see how much you are missing in life, how much you are not present with yourself or with other people, how caught up you become in your desires or the events you are involved in, and you will see how easy it is for you to make mistakes or misjudge situations or misinterpret other people’s intentions or activities regarding you. You learn here by contrast for in a quieter or more perceptive state you see the contrast between that and your normal activities. 


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5 Responses to "Campfire Chat July 15, 2017"

  1. MaryS Posted on July 16, 2017 at 12:51 am

    : LaRae, I have ACIM on my radar. I find there are teachings from the 20th century, they could have been delivered before the Allies absconded. We could think of them as little prophetic waves ahead of the Great Wave of Revelation that came through Marshall. Other people catch those waves to their benefit and strength enough to communicate with and acknowledge that power is power.
    Alio-Texas: LaRae RE: ACIM…. I did it for decades but now question any teaching that says the world is not real and all is illusion. That’s pacification program. Just my opinion and as usual controversial.
    Shane – New Zealand: “Do you see here how the poison is immersed in the very food that people want to eat? Spiritual food is being poisoned. How many spiritual teachers today are teaching real discernment? How many are promoting real personal integrity? How many are encouraging people to look clearly and see? How many teachers are encouraging their students to respond to the world? There are indeed some, but look around and you will see the Pacification Program being promoted unknowingly. How perfect this is for the alien agenda.” – Effects of the Pacification Program

    Shane’s quote is precisely the antidote for the tarnish on some of the late mid-20th century movements.I consider that a lot of voices got through, and when you can trace one of the common manipulations in the Pacification Program to the first time it can be found, you get to the heart of what the Pacification Program has done with it. There were ideas being introduced–Warner Erhart is not often mentioned but the list does go on and on. The first instance of a concept, I am finding, may have come through an agent for good, but somehow the Network of that time has plenty of loose agents? Not tightened down like things are now when one Messenger’s Voice needs to be heard above all others.

    My research says STK makes a fine watermark for detecting the inspired and (hopefully) helpful [but limited–this cannot be emphasized enough] “Other Voices.” The fundamental truth of the matter is that some of the people we need to reach are still involved with the earlier Voices.

    Think of your own influences–if you know my fan-dumb for certain rock stars plus long gone Messenger of the past, you have me summed up nicely. I have also to investigate the influences that I found quite hostile, after turning into a little mean kitty cat (fierce and furious when someone reminds me of someone that gets a rise like that from me ) Was it the fact that she was Pacified? When did it happen to her, and to what effect? Is this what draws my fire, the need that anger demands is boundaries. I haven’t finished this investigation #SouthernGothic

    #ManyPeopleLikeNealeDonaldWalsch

  2. Alisa Posted on July 16, 2017 at 5:31 am

    Thanks for your insights Mary!

    “Not tightened down like things are now when one Messenger’s Voice needs to be heard above all others” This puts it in a nutshell for me.

    I can see now how the Pacification Program works through individuals who have no real backing. They may join together in a Network of other “loose agents” but they do not have the Angelic Assembly or the tight-knit group of the Society of the New Message behind them. I can see how the Intervention could use that environment to “pacify” humanity and it is so beguiling and comforting.

    Marshall and the New Message from God is something very different, it has a different feel, and it is concentrated and pure. It has no feeling of contamination like the “other voices” being heard in the world.It requires a lot of discernmnent though to know the difference.

  3. MaryS Posted on July 18, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    Eccentricity is ephemeral and best deployed judiciously. Eccentricity for eccentricity’s sake overlooks the overriding and compelling force of the whole of the Revelation that aims to end Separation. Concentricity with the New Message is the goal for all of us who have witnessed its Reality. [http://www.newmessage.org/wiki/Eccentricity This wiki page] has every occurrence of “eccentric” I could find.

    To cover that last eccentricity card I played, I amend it a bit to say that no one role or function is done by an individual. “There are many here among us” said the Nobel Laureate whose work was a big calling for me (“All Along the Watchtower” important and functional); he was only the speartip of a movement. It manifested in different forms that I bring together occasionally on my Facebook page iPnosis. https://www.facebook.com/iPnosisMedicine/

  4. MerrieB aka MaryS Posted on July 20, 2017 at 12:57 am

    These quotes from the Chat of June 17 as quoted on the June 25, 2017, transcript put the Bertrand Russell quote on eccentricity in context:

    “All I ask you to do is to be who you really are and to do what you came here to do—a simple request and a daunting challenge which you were designed to fulfill.”

    “Real freedom is no choice but to do what must be done.”

    In the context of the wiki results, it’s gratifying to see this clear example of Marshall contributing to the New Message what he carries within himself. And we get to be the private audience to this wonder!

  5. MaryS Posted on July 24, 2017 at 6:04 pm

    My School journal distills all this into “Mark Twain’s reply to Bertrand Russell: ‘If you eat a frog for breakfast, nothing worse will happen to you all day.'”

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