Campfire Chat August 5, 2017

 Tyyne_Society:  Please take a few minutes to review the passages from the Messenger from last week’s chat:

“When doing Deep Study, it is important to highlight those things you do not understand or that are confusing to you and begin to explore them in the New Message, which repeats its vast number and layers of Teaching in many places. Expanding one’s understanding requires dealing with the problems and challenges of building real understanding. Therefore, do not just look for confirmation here, look for exploration. Confirmation affirms where you are. Exploration takes you further up the mountain.”“When I talk to people out in the world about the NMG, the GW’s or the GC, I focus on leaving something specific and beneficial that can stay in their minds such as a short quote, a challenging idea or question or an image. What stays in the mind is what is important to me as a communicator. ”

Seed example as a GC open-ended question: “What would you do if you found out that the world is being visited?”…

Tyyne_Society:  … Give them the Allies website. This only takes a moment to give to someone and many would not forget that question.

“I will try and reach all who can be reached, which is never certain in the first contact. To everyone else, I will leave a pebble in their shoe. ”

“At times I may give more than a seed, but try never to give too much. Everyone has to come to the well of truth on their own accord, with their own strength and determination. ”

“Give people a clear message in a few words and somewhere to go (website or teaching), not your highly personal experiences. That should be reserved for only your closest companions or in some cases held back from everyone. Do not give yourself away. This is discretion. ”

“Never talk to a new person as if they are a student. Give them an idea that is compelling and somewhere to explore. ”

“In doing advocacy, act like you have to reach a thousand people and do not have time to invest in people who are not ready. Be efficient in this way and you will not…

Tyyne_Society:  … lose heart to people who will use you either as a resource or for entertainment. “

“I am giving you these messages about planting seeds to save you for the big journey ahead. ”

“We have a lot of people to reach in a confused and distracted world and we do not have much time to reach them.”

alisa_Russia:  @Cameron, that sounds like a wonderful retreat.
Jansett_KY:  Just learned I have to go deal with an issue at the nursing home. I’ll need to study the chat transcript later today. Love to all!  

Robert_Society:  It is inspiring and moving to hear the Messenger call us to share the New Message in the many ways possible…that each of us may be advocates and way-showers alongside of him. I am also reminded of the words spoken by the Source of the New Message regarding our growing worldwide community and this effort. Of the care and humility we all must take when advocating and speaking to others about the New Message:

“The Angelic Assembly has taken great pains to make sure, and to try to minimize the errors of the past, to make sure that the Message remains pure and efficacious. That is why the Pathway has been given. That is why the words have been given. That is why the books have been given and the recordings have been given, and even the Voice of Revelation, which has never been presented before, so that this does not become corrupted and diffracted and stolen and misused.” from the Revelation “The Worldwide Community of God’s New Message”…

Robert_Society:  … “http://www.newmessage….ssage

We are blessed to have three amazing teachers of this Revelation in Marshall, Patricia, and Reed Summers. They are creating a growing library of instruction and wisdom in how to approach learning and living this vast new Revelation for humanity. We can point to this and to the New Message itself when sharing awareness, or when others ask how to learn and apply these Teachings. We can share our own experience of it when appropriate. However, we are asked not to teach this or claim that authority in these matters for good reason… May we all follow this and continue to do what is needed to assist the Angelic Assembly in this great mission.

77605:  Hello everyone!
LaRaeUK:  God’s Speed Jansett….
justin-calif-!:  Greetings all!!
Selma London:  That sounds wonderful, Cameron – enjoy yourselves!
Hyeonam_Korea:  Greetings all!
LaRaeUK:  Thank you Robert for that potent reminder…..and yes, we are so very blessed.
Youngkyo_Korea:  Hello all! Greetings
Darlene_Society:  Hello everyone. We will be starting on the hour.
Richmond_UK:  Hello everyone!
manuel germany :):  Hi Rich, good to see you again
Susan_Malaysia:  thank you, Tyyne for MVS wise words…..
Darlene_Society:  Here are the questions that we will be discussing today: What stood out for you in reading Who Are the Allies of Humanity? and did any questions come up for you?
How has The Allies of Humanity Briefings changed your understanding about life in the universe and the prospect of contact?
Mark_Pittsburgh:  Good morning, good night and good evening fellow students!
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank youTynne and thank you Robert. Powerful words that I/We must apply in our lives and the ability to advocate when Knowledge directs and when the time and feeling within is right. Thank you!!!!
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @Mark, can you include in the transcript what Tynne and Robert have said? I do hope so!
Tyyne_Society:  Welcome everyone to the Free School session: Contact with Intelligent Life. It is now the hour. Let us take a few moment of stillness together and think of the Messenger bring this New Message to the world.
Bethne_UK:  Hello Fellow students!
Jill_Colorado:  Hello Everyone…NNC
Paul_MA:  Tynne- and to all: also good to have the :”business cards” that bear the NM. Templates are available from NMS… leave em with a quote and a physical card….to take them home.
Tyyne_Society:  FYI: Dar is co-facilitating but just isn’t showing up in the “Moderator” section at the top right.
Betty_UK:  Hello everyone
manuel germany :):  Hi Betty, hi Shrimayi hi hi hi
Betty_UK:  Hi Manuel
Mike_LF_CAL:  STK CT, Step 76, I Am Here To Serve The Word. Good to be right where I’m suppose to be! Helllo everyone.
Paul_MA:  Question…why are certain words capitalized?….. “Contact” is one such word….. ?
Jeanne_Boulder:  good day to all
support:  For those who are still a number, you can change your names by clicking on the gear icon, bottom right, name_city would be a good format.
Tyyne_Society:  Let us begin this chat with the first questions: What stood out for you in reading Who Are the Allies of Humanity? and did any questions come up for you?
MaryL_Boulder:  hello everyone
Paul_MA:  Quesion… it was said that the Allies have been watching our world for many years…. WHen did they start and how many years did the observe before they had to leave? Also..any sense if there will be a 4th AH?
Darlene_Society:  Thank you, Tyyne. We will repeat the question in a few minutes for those just joining. Welcome to the Worldwide Community of the New Message, here together again, the first of the human family to study God’s New Revelation. We are beginning Month 2, in Week 1 of the groundbreaking session on The Greater Community. Welcome to all who have been participating faithfully and those new students joining for the first time. Such a blessing this CHAT is!
Joyanne_Canada:  What stood out for me and struck me was how important it is to gain control over our mental enviornment. “It is not a battle of weapons. It is not a battle of military might. It is a battle of will and intentions, a battle that is being played out [in] the mental environment—a great environment of influence where more powerful minds can influence weaker ones, an environment that humanity knows very little about.”
alisa_Russia:  What struck me when reading Who Are the Allies of Humanity is the ingenuity of how the Briefings were given “The Briefings were made available with the assistance of the Angelic Presence, being communicated through a spiritual means that did not require the use of technology, a means of communication that the Intervention itself could not intercept or interpret.” The second half of this sentence stood out the most – no use of technology that could be intercepted by the Intervention. The message is pure and uncorrupted.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  “You have 2 things to accomplish while being here, which are quite esential to your being here. You cannot neglect them, regardless of your beliefs or point of view. You must develop yourself, your inherent abilities and you must contribute something vital to the world.” Wisdom 1 pg 72
Jeffrey_Boulder:  Excellent reminder, Alisa, thank you.
Amina_Russia:  Reading about the Allies, a question came out about a mental environment it talks about and about which humanity knows little. I noticed that lately regular people started getting interested (in Russia) in esoteric studies, different kinds of meditations and controlling one’s thoughts and environment. There are even plenty of TV shows here about it, talking about outer unseen forces. I have never seen such a boom or interest in this before, like 4 or 5 years ago. Is this all about mental environment as well?What are the examples that nowadays people are involving themselves in studying the mental environment?
Jennie_Netherlands:  What stood out for me was this: It is not a battle of weapons. It is not a battle of military might. It is a battle of will and intentions, a battle that is being played out [in] the mental environment—a great environment of influence where more powerful minds can influence weaker ones, an environment that humanity knows very little about. And also this: Ask your questions, but understand that you are at the very beginning of your Greater Community education and you will have to live with certain questions that cannot yet be answered, building while you proceed a growing and concise understanding of humanity’s advantages and disadvantages.
Joyanne_Canada:  excellent quote Jim B.. it goes so well with the Revelation in discussion
Shrimayi Netherlands:  The free nations in this part of the universe seek to promote freedom wherever they can. They view your world as showing great promise because spirituality and religion have not been destroyed or forgotten here. They see that the power of Knowledge, the greater spiritual power, is still alive in individuals, despite humanity’s grave mistakes and foolish activities.
This fils me with gratitude and hope for this world.
MaryS_Boulder:  “It is always difficult for a free nation to exist around unfree nations. It is a delicate situation.”
Samantha_South Africa:  What stood out for me in reading “Who are the Allies of Humanity” was the firstly “it is important to consider the risks that have been taken to provide this wisdom and the immense importance of the wisdom and perspective that are provided in these teachings.” –> I was deeply touched that the Allies were willing to risk their lives to deliver their message… That they risked everything for their ” Divine Mission”
Richmond_UK:  @Tyyne @Alisa yes one of the things that always stands out for me was from this excerpt, “The Briefings were made available with the assistance of the Angelic Presence, being communicated through a spiritual means that did not require the use of technology, a means of communication that the Intervention itself could not intercept or interpret. Again, this was done to protect the location of the Allies’ expedition, as well as the purity and integrity of the message itself.” This shows clearly how extremely closely and expertly the world’s communications are being monitored by the Intervention, that it would take a Divine level of communication to remain undiscovered for the Allies. Yet, we are still recklessly broadcasting all our communications out into space, a very dangerous practise.
Ellen_Society:  With every passing year I realize to a greater extent the ENORMITY of the gift the Allies have given us and how critical their Briefings are to our potential success in dealing correctly with the Intervention. …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
Every year I ponder their courage, their sacrifice, their determination to bring us this wisdom, and I wonder: Would I ever have that courage? Would I, at some future time, have the devotion, the commitment, to go into a space ship to bring such a set of life-giving briefings to another world I had never visited, and to beings on that world I would never meet? ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
Would I be willing to sacrifice in such a way, knowing that – if I did so – I would never be able to go back to my home planet and my people, my family? Theirs is to me the ultimate demonstration of selfless giving! MAY…
Ellen_Society:  … WE RECEIVE THAT GIFT and honor it fully, thus fulfilling our intended destiny in the Greater Community!
Wendy, NY:  Greetings everyone :))
Kim – Maryland:  Well said – thank you, Ellen!
Shane – New Zealand:  Something that has stood out for me is how difficult it is to consider Life in the Universe with out looking at it through a human lens of understanding and values etc.. Even when you know its a non human universe its not that easy to really comprehend what that means.
Cameron_Canada:  @Joyanne and Alisa – I too have found the mental environment an important topic. For me, it was necessary to find a way to clear any unwanted engagement, but one must first recognize this for what it is before one can act.
Darlene_Society:  @Jim B….our mission in a nutshell. Thank you.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  This is a great service to an unwary and unsuspecting humanity, who believes the universe is either a great empty place awaiting exploration or that it is filled with benign and ethical races of beings who would be eager to assist humanity in its quest for technological solutions and greater power.
(The idea that it is filled with benign and ethical races is a hard thing to let go for it is mostly shaped by fear that is not recognised. And why people become angry when they encounter the Allies perspective.That is why we have to become honest with ourselves.)
Robert_Society:  @Samantha South Africa – Yes this has always struck and moved me deeply. These individuals doing this in service to us. We may never actually meet them nor they us, but the strength of their commitment to us and the higher powers they serve is so very real. I am honored by this demonstration and inspired to do my part for us and them.
Debbie-MI:  So true Ellen!
Mike_LF_CAL:  Kelvin’s quote at the beginning of the chat, “No one else can live in your world. It is biologically too complex for them.” The GC’s hybridization program has progressed to the point where these creatures are now indistinguishable from a true human and are now walking among us, according to Dr. David Jacobs research. This is extremely unsettling And in contradiction to the quoted Revelation.
Joyanne_Canada:  true Cameron, and without the NM and the Allies teachings, the pathway given we wouldn’t have the tools to develop this strength of mind.. what a gift, for this world
Reed_Society:  Ellen, my God, yes….
Esther_Spain:  Thank you Ellen I was thinking about that
justin-calif-!:  For me, knowing we have Allies was a true revelation. Also, knowing what their limitations were, is also vital- and the knowledge that they are limited to only being able give us the messages, and that the true work, that of becoming aware, and preserving our freedom is our work alone- Being able to absorb new information is only part of “intelligence”- the other part is being able and willing to respond to said new info.
Tyyne_Society:  For those who are just arriving we are discussion the first question: What stood out for you in reading Who Are the Allies of Humanity? and did any questions come up for you?
Kelvin_Boulder:  @Tyyne, Back in 2009 when I first read the Allies what struck me and comforted me was bringing the Intervention down to the level of physicality. They are not dimensional, all powerfully etc. They are physical, here for very practical and self serving needs we can all understand. Over the years and now what emerges is a deep sense of gratitude, that a small group of beings went on a secret mission, against all odds, single minded to come here and warn us.
Wendy, NY:  Ellen, part of the impact of the Briefings for me is to realize how real these beings, the Allies, are. That I can indeed put myself in their shoes and be amazed at the sacrifice they made. It underlines the critical importance of the material, for sure.
LaRaeUK:  That struck me too Shrimayi….especially as prior to finding TNM, I found religion to be so trying, and controlling. Now I realize as imperfect as the religions of the world are, they are such a large part of why the human race is so valuable.
Keiko_Ita:  Hello everyone!
Jorge_Spain:  I was left wondering about this quote: “After going through long eras of war and competition and conflict, these larger networks have been established.” So, are war and conflict not so rare after all? Should our emergence to the Greater Community would happened, say, 15,000 years ago, would we had found a neighbourhood plunged in conflict? I wonder also about the possible waves of civilizations coming and going along the eras, the inmensity of time and the youngness of humanity in comparison.
Jangsun_Korea:  Thank you Ellen. Those are really great questions to ask ourselves.
Selma London:  For me, what I noticed was that it is important for us to accept the Allies’ disclaimer of non-interference, for their own safety: “For these governments could be held accountable for the fact that humanity is gaining benefit from these free nations, which violates the agreements that the free nations have established—agreements of non-interference in the affairs of the Greater Community.”
It’s a bit like those in our world today providing ‘alternative’ or complementary medical guidance, but have to claim it’s not, so as not to disturb the machinery of mainstream allopathic medicine.
“It is for this reason that the Allies will not describe themselves, or give their names, or speak of their home worlds. For this expedition is functioning to serve humanity in secret, without the awareness or approval of greater powers, even without the awareness and approval, officially speaking, of the governments of their own nations.”
We will have to learn to do the same.
But by no means should we…
Selma London:  … accept any other disclaimers, of others, who “use more subtle means and employ other agents to carry out such an intervention.” – “to gain advantage and influence in another world, such as an emerging world like your own.”
From <http://www.newmessage….anity>
We will have to learn to tell the difference:
“You must gain the wisdom to discern friend from foe, ally from competitor.
You do not have this wisdom and this discernment yet, but it can and must grow within you as an individual and within the human family.”
From <http://www.newmessage….unity>
Jim B. Upstate NY:  For me the courage and humility the Allies have demonstrated for our benefit gives me a great sense of connection and love for them! And the 2nd thing for me is that humanity and we as students have to mature and grow in Knowledge and have so much work to do and little time to do it in. I live with this each day. My preparation is weak yet I am becoming stronger little by little. I pray that we all give of ourselves deeply to our practice for it is our gift to God and the Ones who have sent us.
LaRaeUK:  Indeed Ellen…..
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  @ Ellen, resonating… It struck me that they have a debt to pay. So will we. For what its worth I feel you would be able in a heartbeat to do what you must…
Josef Austria:  Hello everyone!
Alexandra_NL:  @Jim B.: Amen
alisa_Russia:  @Jim, yes that struck me too – it’s time to grow up and stop messing around. Get down to the nitty gritty.
LaRaeUK:  Jim and Shawn….indeed. We owe them everything….and to honor that, we must give our all to our studies and to sharing this Message with the world.
Joyanne_Canada:  resonating Jim, little time, much work to be done .
MaryL_Boulder:  @Shane “Even when you know its a non human universe its not that easy to really comprehend what that means.(9:10AM)” Yes, Non human is a difficult concept since we know nothing else but being human but I get glimpses of another perspective from the Allies Briefings and the NM revelations when our assumptions and expectations are pointed out to us and how it is not that way. This helps me to relook and examine what I have thought and assumed to be true in the universe. Without this Greater Community education we would never be able to rise above the heavy fog of confusion and influence.
Tyyne_Society:  @Kelvin – yes, that assisted me when I first began my studies of the Allies and the Greater Community – that those active in our world are physical beings operating in a physical reality. There is nothing magical or mystical about them. We are dealing with a physical force who are adept in the mental environment. That, to me, is why we must know ourselves, our tendencies, our weaknesses, out strengths and develop in the Way of Knowledge. This development and advancement will and does give us great power in our own world to offset the Intervention.
Maria_Boulder:  @Ellen, thank you for your potent words…I am reading quite slowly today!
MaryL_Boulder:  This passage struck me on a personal level as well as seeing what humanity must move towards: “It is time for you to grow up and think of greater things—to think of the welfare of your planet, to think of the stability of your environment, to think of world security now and not merely the security of your own nation.”
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Ellen!!!! When I look up into the sky and around where I live the thoughts you have so beautifully stated come to mind! Thank you so much for them!
alisa_Russia:  “You as an individual must have great faith in the power of Knowledge within yourself and within others to turn the tide in humanity’s favor.” This is the crux of the matter for me.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Your allies in the Greater Community are alive in the physical universe. They have as their counterparts those invisible allies that you have who are called the Unseen Ones. Here, however, we shall speak of your allies within the physical universe itself, for you need to be aware that they exist and that they are aware of you. You need to be aware that they have achieved what you are now setting out to accomplish. And you need to realize that in the Greater Community you are not alone, though you will indeed feel like you are alone in the great reaches of space.
Your allies are called the Harim, which is a word meaning “those with skill” in Septoral, a commonly used language in the Greater Community. This word, though new to you, is used to illustrate both the assistance available to you and some of the realities that you will find in a greater context of life that extends far beyond the boundaries of your world and the limits of your awareness.
The Harim exist to support the…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … reclamation of Knowledge everywhere—wherever intelligent life dwells and wherever intelligent life has originated in the physical universe. They serve as intermediaries between the invisible world where you have come from and the visible world where you live now. Great is their skill and accomplishment. Few in your world have ever achieved their state of awareness. Their mission is not simply to support and assist their own races and cultures. Instead, their role is to support Knowledge in the Greater Community. Their accomplishments make peaceful relations possible between worlds. They make higher education possible and make possible the elevation of worldly societies.
The Harim work for peace in the Greater Community, and thus their mission and their scope are enormous. They represent individuals from many worlds. Some have met each other and others have never met each other. Yet they are held together through a great network of communication that utilizes the Unseen Ones, who…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … can go anywhere and who can deliver information from one world to another through non-physical means. This great network of communication extends to your world. It represents a marvelous accomplishment in the mental environment.” Volume Two of the New Message from Godhttp://www.newmessage….ssage
Lin_Boulder:  In reading the Greater Community chapters, I found there are three major GC forces referred to, the Allies, the neighbors, and the Intervention-resource explorers and economic collectives. I felt a strong need to delve into this subject and study more from relevant teachings also in GCS, Wisdom, LIU and Allies briefings, to learn about their perspectives, intentions and activities.
Jennie_Netherlands:  It is a battle of will and intentions, a battle that is being played out [in] the mental environment—a great environment of influence where more powerful minds can influence weaker ones…. The question I have with this is, Can it be true that we allready experience on a daily basis these battles? That people around us start to change and act differently, manipulative and agressive if you resist them with becoming still with knowledge. To a point so deep, that you loose even your confidence? Is it allready such a strong force in the world?
Eron_Boulder:  The work of the Allies reflects the Great Coordination between Angelic Assembly and the wise in physical manifestation. The Allies, each from a different world, and Marshall making the Sacred Rendezvous which will turn out to be one of the most important events in human history. Without this coordination and communication humanity would be lost in the face of the Greater Community.
Carolyn-CT:  @alisa: wow that speaks to me.
Patricia_Society:  @Shrimayi((9:08) – Thank you. The promise of humanity, and our contribution to this larger framework of life is needed and being called forth as we emerge into this Greater Community. “They view your world as showing great promise because spirituality and religion have not been destroyed or forgotten here. They see that the power of Knowledge, the greater spiritual power, is still alive in individuals, despite humanity’s grave mistakes and foolish activities.”
LaRaeUK:  Indeed Alisa…..we must be those vehicles that Knowledge is able to move through, as it knows what to do, and how to save humanity.
Shane – New Zealand:  Its interesting how people look out to space as if we are on a fixed surface, its ingrained in the human consciousness it seems that we are the center of the Universe without us often realizing it.
Debbie-MI:  What struck me in book two of the AOH was the following questions they posed to the reader: “The question then for you is, are you free to know these things that we are speaking of? Are you free to respond? Are you free to speak out against the intervention? The teaching in freedom starts right now. This is the first step.”
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @Patricia thank you.
alisa_Russia:  Yes, LaRae, I have great faith in the power of Knowledge in myself and in others and in its ability to turn the tide in humanity’s favor. It cannot be any other way, although I realize that some will think I am too optimistic 
Jorge_Spain:  @Mike, as far as I understand, there is no contradiction here: The Intervention can’t live in our world, and so is doing the hybridization program as one of the means to circunvent or bypass that difficulty. The hybrids can live here and be leaders or whatever, but have allegiance to the Intervention.
Cole_Boulder:  @Eron – yes, wow, thank you for distilling that
Tyyne_Society:  That’s great, Lin. Thanks for sharing that… “I felt a strong need to delve into this subject and study more from relevant teachings also in GCS, Wisdom, LIU and Allies briefings, to learn about their perspectives, intentions and activities.”
Alio-Austin Tx:  What stood out for me was that the Allies were “sneaking” to do what they were doing, hiding it from even the governments of their own free worlds. Made me think of what those secret meetings, plans, contact with unseen ones could have looked like. Also made me think of how so few carry the responsibility of carrying something so great in the universe…… here too… so few carrying something so great. Hi all… sorry to be late. That doesn’t work.
Sally_Boulder:  Oh Ellen, yes, while reading this I too thought of them with such gratitude. And I wonder if they also questioned their courage, but the MUST DO internally through mysterious means I’m sure eclipsed that…Perhaps they thought of the service to them, in a previous time, and that act allowed them to continue that service. “It is important for you to understand also that the Allies of Humanity have a debt to pay, for they were served by an expedition in an earlier time that helped to free them from the grip of intervention, opening the way for them to establish their freedom and autonomy in the universe. They now have an opportunity to repay this debt
by providing a similar service to humanity, as you yourselves face intervention and all of the dangers and misfortune it can bring.”
That struck me, as well as the great deal of time it takes to secure sovereignty. “The Allies will not come to save humanity from intervention through the use of force or military means, for this would…
Sally_Boulder:  … destroy their autonomy in the universe, which they have taken centuries to establish.”
Esther_Spain:  Yes Alisa that is the crux.
Tyyne_Society:  Yeah, Eron. So true.
Robert_Society:  What also strikes me regarding the Allies mission here, is that the great Plan of God has a very real, boots on the ground aspect. Things must get done, relationships and demonstrations must be made. Look at what they had to do physically and their preparation internally. It is not going to happen by itself or through Divine intervention alone. We must step up, we must develop our abilities and strengthen ourselves. We have things to do and gifts to give. We have a preparation now and much work to do. It is before us…can each one of us respond and do this?
Alio-Austin Tx:  Leaves me wondering, “What do you do with the hybrids once an exposing has occurred?”
Kelvin_Boulder:  @Robert & Tyyne, thank you!
Joyanne_Canada:  @Alio give them Steps to Knowledge, so they can develop and strengthen the aspect of them that will stop their intervention.
manuel germany :):  As free races are rare in the universe, I was wondering, that only that fact (that they are so few free races) has not be dangerous to raise reasonable suspicion and to be discovered by the Intervention and the controlling economic forces? Or do we have to put and see that in perspective, say, rare means maybe a free race is as seldom as 1 in 100, so if there are 50,000 races (I have no clue if this is right) in our region of space, than theoretically there were 500 free races and than it would not be that easy for the Intervention and the controlling forces to speculate who might be helping humanity with the briefings…
Keiko_Ita:  For me, the Allies of Humanity were the key to open my awareness at first, then I felt deep gratitude to wards them…I passed through the first threshold of my pathway at beginning.
Rosa_UK:  Hello everyone! So good to be here! NNC
Cameron_Canada:  good question Alio
Levy_Brazil:  @Alio, Allies 3 talks about this exact question. “If the Intervention is overcome, what should humanity do with all the individuals who are a result of the hybridization program?” => http://alliesofhumanit…iens/
Amina_Russia:  Jennie_Netherlands–i think about your questions now..
88619:  @ Alio. Interesting question.
Anna W_Boulder:  @ Debbie-MI, Thank you… “Are you free to speak out against the Intervention?” … From Book 2, 3rd Briefing: “If you raise your voice against the Intervention, it is put at risk. If you oppose the Intervention, if enough people can do this, the Intervention must withdraw.” !
Paul_MA:  Speaking Out Against the Intervention???….. If we do so, who will hear our objections?
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  So true Robert. Concrete effort is a must. Our freedom is not assured.
Kristina_Boulder:  Hi Amina, “You live in a mental environment as well as a physical one. The mental environment is filled with forces and thought forms generated by thinking beings everywhere…. an environment that is created through the predominating thoughts and interactions of the people who dwell there…. Out of doors, the mental environment dissipates, though places in general can have an overall feel to them, depending upon what has occurred there in the past and what the prevailing ideas are in that particular location.” “Unlike the physical environment, you cannot spoil the mental environment. It is an environment that is made up of thoughts and groups of thoughts, which are called forces. The mental environment cannot be destroyed, but it can become very polluted. It can become very destructive. Unlike the physical environment, the mental environment knows no boundaries in terms of time and space. For instance, if you have great emotional distress where you are, it affects someone on the…
Kristina_Boulder:  … other side of the world, and vice versa…. Minds are connected through a very subtle internal network.” I recommend reading chapter 12. Self-expression and Mental environment in W2
Alexandra_NL:  Thank you Robert _ Society: “Things must get done, relationships and demonstrations must be made (…) can each one of us respond and do this?”
Jim B. Upstate NY:  ‘Everything you do for another and with another’s well being in mind serves the world.” This can be broadened with what the Allies have done for us and for themselves within the mutual giving which is such a big part of the New Message Teachings. “Everything you do for another and with another’s well being in m ind serves the UNIVERSE and beyond. Just a thought that came to me in the moment.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Jorge, I hear you but I disagree. Their technology has given them a body that can function in this biologically diverse environment and they appear to even be able to transfer their consciousness or a consciousness into that body. I’d like to hear from the Society on this point.
Cole_Boulder:  @Robert – that is so true. This need for real, determined work, “boots on the ground,” forward motion and focused action to prepare and to serve….this is what will actually *save* people. It is so easy for people to get lost in imagination concerning the GC, but the NM and AoH call for us to respond, to participate in the world.
Samantha_South Africa:  @Robert – Thank you, thank you for your words and the questions that they provoke – what can I do to use what has been given to me to become stronger, more courageous and more dedicated? How can I strengthen my preparation so I d=to can be in a possible to give
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @Robert I feel we owe this to them.To give what we came here to give.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “The Harim are not preoccupied with human development or human affairs. In their care are many worlds—worlds in various stages of emergence into the Greater Community, worlds that have matured in the Greater Community and worlds that are declining in the Greater Community. The Harim is active now in your world because of your emergence into the Greater Community. They represent Knowledge and Wisdom on a grand scale and within a far larger context, a context that makes everything that is being presented here in this Teaching universally applicable. What is true in the Greater Community must be true for your world, for your world is not different in this regard.
The Wise Ones who support your world serve as an example to show that everything we are speaking of can be demonstrated and learned regardless of the limitations and difficulties in your world. How they associate with each other and how they communicate across the great distances is a marvel and is something that you can now…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … begin to appreciate, at least conceptually. Why are they hidden? Because they are generally not welcome in their own worlds unless their race has evolved to a high level. If their race has evolved to a high level, then it has gone into secrecy itself because the Wise remain hidden, and wise societies remain hidden for the very same reasons.” Who Serves Humanity? http://www.newmessage….anity
Paul_MA:  Genetic Technology: GT:…..Stem cell technology and sequencing technologies are very much escalating in our world…and gene editing technologies…the upside of these technologies is that they will give us the tools to identify the hybrids and alien races, the non-human ones.
Amina_Russia:  Hi, Kristina_Boulder,,,thank you very much for explanation, i will find those chapters.
manuel germany :):  @Thanks Robert. The 7th cavallerie is not coming to save us, We, the humans are the 7th cavallerie and have been sent to do our little but important contribution to make it
alisa_Russia:  @Kristina – thanks for those quotes and clarifications. Like Amina, I have some questions and confusion about the mental environment as well.
Darlene_Society:  @Sally this “debt to pay” is a powerful call to service. It moves me every time I hear this part of the Allies’ story and consider ours…not only do we have a “debt to pay” to the Allies but to Marshall Vian Summers. Can we feel this and take our service to another level while he is in the world? Really, another level, can we walk our talk? Can we begin to pay this debt today according to our nature and design and destiny?
Inhee_Korea:  @Alisa thank you for sharing “”You as an individual must have great faith in the power of Knowledge within yourself and within others to turn the tide in humanity’s favor.”
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @Robert @ 11:23am indeed! The work that needs to be done MUST be done in the world by us and those who find the NM in time!!!!
Alexandra_NL:  @Robert @Cole “The significance (of the Greater Community Spirituality) isn’t merely in the scope of its teaching, its perspective and its understanding, but in the tremendous practical advantages that it gives you in daily life in your own world and in the very small affairs with which you are normally preoccupied.” What is the Greater Community
Kelvin_Boulder:  @Kristina, thank you for that quote.
Mike_LF_CAL:  I Hope you’re right @Paul_MA, that had better be the case because we can’t tell the difference between them and us!
Selma London:  I begin to know I’m becoming part of a group mind when I think about something intensively just before something is released or thrown out there by the Society, or a NMG student is clearly also preoccupied with something similar, along similar lines, and perhaps comments on social media, so that I can pick up on this concurrence without necessarily knowing that person. But I do this by staying deeply embedded within my own mental environment, not being swayed by external currents of thought, or allowing inputs of interference from anywhere else. I have to stay faithful within myself to allow this deeper correspondence to occur, and catch it when it does, because these are not just passing thoughts.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Wendy, NY “In the Greater Community, Life Force has been harnessed successfully by individuals and small groups of individuals who serve a greater network of the Wise. This network is called the Harim. This word, which is from the Septoral language, speaks of those who uphold Knowledge in all worlds. Their purpose is not local or ambitious. They represent a universal purpose that bonds them with others very different from themselves. This has created an association of the Wise who are unlikely ever to encounter each other face to face in manifest life. It extends the whole network and fabric of genuine relationship beyond the visual realm. Here heaven and earth overlap. Within these overlapping boundaries, there exists a greater bond of relationship, a greater awareness and a greater experience of life.” What Is Life Force? http://www.newmessage….force
Shane – New Zealand:  The Allies ask us to basically become allies of humanity ourselves, it is a question I have been asking myself. What does it mean to be and Ally of Humanity and am I being an Ally of humanity?
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you rayhobbs for the quotes! Powerful!
Carol_Society:  @Darlene: Oh, yes, our “debt to pay”….paying it forward… to the Messenger, the Allies, the AA, God…Thank you!
Mathieu-France:  @Manuel: yes, I have wondered about that too, like: wouldn’t it be obvious for intervening races to know where to look if the briefings come from Free races in our neighbourhood? Though the vastness of space maybe something we don’t really picture at this point. It’s not like the intervention would just have to go around the block to find the potential allies. Maybe there’s hundred of potential nations within such a vast area that doing extensive search would engage too much resources for little hope to find out… something like that.
Kim – Maryland:  Ray, which book were you quoting from?
Kristina_Boulder:  Amina and Alisa, yes, I have questions myself. NM says that we need to become strong in Mental Environment, but I’m not sure how exactly we suppose to develop this sensitivity. Would STK help us accomplish this or there are additional trainings and levels?
Paul_MA:  Mike– On the surface we may not be able to do so, but at the genetic level, if their DNA is different,yet compatible, our sequencing technologies should do the job..if we can obtain legit samples of their biological materials.
Martin_Australia:  @Mike, I think you would sense a difference in the Mental Environment
manuel germany :):  Thanks Kristina_Boulder for sharing that about the mental environment. So, what you are describing seems that our minds are apparently connected one with another – quantum entangled – so to speak
Keiko_Ita:  I will be back to the question of deep listening…At hourly I ask three questions, 1) Is there anything I need to know and 2) need to do, then 3) where I need to be today. Usually I ask these questions during the day I remember to know or do. I will get some kinds of indications afterwards, if necessary.
Kim – Maryland:  Got it – thank you Ray
Jennie_Netherlands:  @Kristina, if experience that only Knowledge knows how to protect us
79737:  Bonjour
Amina_Russia:  Kristina, that is exactly another question i have
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Martin, yes, BUT, only those of us who are strong with Kn would be able to do so and there are not very many of us in the world.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Darlene! The dept is a gift to us to extend to others in our lifetime. What we do in our lives and in our practice is the gift we can give. So I must give all of myself to this with all the focus and concentration I am developing and will continue to develop as my life moves forward!
LaRaeUK:  @Shrimayi, Robert, Manuel…..My sense when reading this was how many levels of love and service have been passed down from The Creator, The Angelic Assembly, The Allies, Marshall, The Society….how loved must humanity be for all this effort to be extended on our behalf? How much are we loved despite our mistakes and misguidance. It fills me with a profound depth of gratitude and responsibility to All who have gone through so much to bring this to us. So that Knowledge might ignite in the human family. A great gift and great responsibility.
Alio-Austin Tx:  Mathiew perhaps the evasion of detection from the “obvious” places of dissent is why the Allies need to hide from their own world administrations…. the safety buffer
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “The Higher Powers are directing those individuals who at the highest levels represent the Networks of the Wise: unique individuals in small groups operating usually in secrecy in the Greater Community, for there are very few free worlds that would accept them and support them. The Network of the Wise, who respond to a greater directive from above, directing their activities, their skills—superseding their human nature, or the nature of whoever they are in the universe. And they have their supporters and their assistants, who protect them, who guard them, who carry out their directives in the world, who support their activities.” The Great Coordinationhttp://www.newmessage….ation
manuel germany :):  yes thanks Mathieu, I guess it is something in that direction…
Dariel_Boulder:  @ Mike S…It is true hybrids are walking among us now. Being people of KN we will know when we meet one of them. But it is critical that we not place emphasis and fear here. Developing greater strength and capacity for KN is what has always been most important here. With this strength and power humanity can address the problem of the Intervention and GWC. It is KN within us that will spark KN in others–even hybrids I expect. They are part human… But no time to dwell on that now. We are looking for 1st responders.
LaRaeUK:  Hear hear Darlene!
Tonia_Denmark:  Hello everyone. Nnc. Small Indonesian festival here in town and it made me stay for a while. Seeing familiar faces and listening to bell music was and is a pleasure of a greater experience.
MaryL_Boulder:  @Darlene: yes I have felt that same debt of service – to being so blessed and given a new life…
Sally_Boulder:  Oh Dar yes, we have accrued a fair amount of service debt, may we pay it through dedicated action, again and again, and certainly during MVS hour of striking on Earth.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @Thank you Darlene “”debt to pay” is a powerful call to service. It moves me every time I hear this part of the Allies’ story and consider ours…not only do we have a “debt to pay” to the Allies but to Marshall Vian Summers. Can we feel this and take our service to another level while he is in the world? Really, another level, can we walk our talk? Can we begin to pay this debt today according to our nature and design and destiny?(5:29PM)”
Cameron_Canada:  The whole idea of hybrid is actually something of a compromise, no?
Mathieu-France:  @79737: bonjour !
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Dariel, yes, but it should not be swept under the rug so to speek…
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Anna W A great way to raise your voice against the intervention is to join the Advocacy group that meets every Thursday 6:30 MDT. We raise awareness of the Intervention on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and other social media. There are people there who can assist anyone interested in taking part. Technical buddies are available.
Alio-Austin Tx:  It’s like moving forward like a horse wearing blinders to carve the path forward without engaging the dissonant forces in the world and beyond. It takes thought control to pass near something without giving it thought energy-attention.
Ginny_Dallas:  Thank you Darlene, Sally! “(The) powerful call to service…can we walk our talk?”
Carolyn-CT:  @Dariel @Mile_LF, I agree. The Knowledge will provide us with the sense that something if off with that person, and guide us away from them. But at some point, may we not need these tests? Of course, getting a hybrid to walk into a clinic and donate tissue or blood is another matter 
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Cameron, what exactly do you mean by compromise? They are bodies they can fill with any consciousness.
Tyyne_Society:  We have a lot of work to do on the ground, as Robert was saying, to remain a free and sovereign race before we can even begin to deal with hybrids. We must do our own work and become strong with Knowledge. You. Me. And many more. This must be done first.
Alio-Austin Tx:  Remind me… What is the man’s name who is so well exposing the nefarious intentions publicly?
Levy_Brazil:  Thanks @Alio, that sounds wise, “It takes thought control to pass near something without giving it thought energy-attention”
Wendy, NY:  Reading the Briefings has grounded my thinking about what’s out there are how we may experience contact. Previously my thinking was idealistic – wishful thinking.
Now I look at the challenge of human relations on Earth as I know them, add Contact to that, and see a situation which is many times more challenging and complex than it already is. However, it has dimension that I recognize. We already know what the mental manipulation of marketing looks like. We already know leaders who have no regard for human rights and do not value freedom. We already observe the complexity of negotiating collective agreements and working within alliances. So now I visualize trying to do any of these things with beings who are not human. Yikes!
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “When you begin to learn about the mental environment, you will see how conditioned you are by the things that you accept, the things that you think, the ideas you share with others, the impact you allow others to have upon you, the weakness you have in attempting to acquire things from the world, your vulnerability, and so forth. Indeed, if you are developing and undertaking any kind of psychological re-evaluation of yourself, you must come to terms with how conditioned you are. This is a difficult part of the preparation process because here you discover your weakness and your vulnerability. Yet, you must proceed beyond this discovery to realize your strength. Otherwise, you can become discouraged and as a result decide to live in greater self-protection and isolation, sealing yourself off from everyone and everything out of fear that they will overtake you or dominate you. This is, perhaps, an understandable reaction to the discovery of your own vulnerability, but it does not lead…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … to Wisdom and will engender misery for you and for others who have come to serve and assist you. You must go beyond this. The mental environment is the environment in which you think. The physical environment is the environment in which you act. The physical influences the mental, but the mental influences the physical to a greater degree. Unless the physical environment is directly infringing itself upon you or controlling your actions or behavior, the influence of the mental environment on you is greater and more consistent. Therefore, the greater your awareness and understanding of your own mental condition and how others influence you and how you influence them, the greater the impact you can have intentionally upon the world.” WGC2.12 Self Expression & The Mental Environment” http://www.newmessage….nment
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Tyyne, yes, of course, I agree 100%!
Carolyn-CT:  @Alio: David Jacobs, along with others.
Debbie-MI:  Thank you Maureen! The Advocacy group that meets on Thursday evening is a great way to speak out against the intervention.
Kristina_Boulder:  Amina, NM wiki is a good resource as well https://www.newmessage…nment
Paul_MA:  One hurdle to overcome is the thought of intelligent existing beyond humanity…. People have a difficult time of considering Bigfoot, Sasquatch and other intelligent beings existing amongst us,, and so the same with the possibility of hybrids…even the possibility of life beyond microbes on other worlds is difficult for many to accept… thanks in large part to our culture,, the cult of our culture.
MaryL_Boulder:  @Tyyne, Mike, Dariel: yes another living with unanswered questions but the first question is what are we doing with our own lives? We who are living now in the time of revelation and with the Messenger in our midst…what must we do?
Eron_Boulder:  @Dar…And as I reflect upon the mission of the Allies, I will never forget that lives were literally given in their efforts to educate and warn humanity while engaged in this extremely dangerous work. My gratitude can be best be expressed in service to the Messenger and the New Message.
Cameron_Canada:  @Mike – I do not know enough about the subject to be sure of that notion filling with any consciousness. All I was saying is that when you bring two seperate things together to make one, each must compromise something.
Joyanne_Canada:  True Tynne, we work to develop our strength and connection with Knowledge so we can be utilized as a vehicle to further the work in the Universe. The Greater Coordination.. without the reclamation and remembrance of Knowledge we are not strong enough to protect ourselves or move forward in doing our service.. Strengthening and developing Knowledge within is the Key for it will pull us in the direction we are needed to go to play our small part in Service.
Selma London:  Here in London the Mental Environment is so busy, and yet so full of potential.
“.. but the public at large has no notion of the hazards that it is now facing at its borders to space. These are hazards that humanity can face and overcome, but you must unite and become educated for this to be possible.”
From <http://www.newmessage….unity>
Jennie_Netherlands:  @Rayhobbs, thank you for this quote …”When you begin to learn about the mental environment, you will see how conditioned you are by the things that you accept, the things that you think, the ideas you share with others, the impact you allow others to have upon you, the weakness you have in attempting to acquire things from the world, your vulnerability, and so forth. Indeed, if you are developing and undertaking any kind of psychological re-evaluation of yourself, you must come to terms with how conditioned you are. This is a difficult part of the preparation process because here you discover your weakness and your vulnerability. Yet, you must proceed beyond this discovery to realize your strength.
79737:  Chot. Bénédictions
Paul_MA:  Cameron… and the unintended consequences that will emerge from the hybrid.
Alio-Austin Tx:  Speaking of work to do, has anyone ever contacted-befriended David Jacobs to compare notes? And would that be a wise move?
LaRaeUK:  Beautifully expressed Eron….and thank you so much for all your years of service.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Eron!
Keiko_Ita:  @Tyyne, Yes, we must be strong with Knowledge. Otherwise we can not receive directives fully…We must practice STK deeply and establish the connection with Heaven. Slowly Slowly we would realize that what we have said before entering this world, step by step, we are working on our foundation at every level and with your Teachers.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Cameron, yes, of course, a physiological compromise.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @ yes Tynne I was thinking this too (5:40PM)
Keiko_Ita:  We must be tethered deeply with Heaven….
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “It is always helpful to understand how others view you. In the context of the world’s emergence into the Greater Community, it is most beneficial that you have some idea of how your neighbors perceive you.” ….. “Their perception of you is that you are very curious and very strange. They find you simple and very fundamental, but they do not comprehend your emotional nature at all, and your religious propensities and devotions are completely mysterious to them. They find you easy to manipulate but difficult to understand, which to them makes you unpredictable.” WGC2. Visitors Perceptions of Humanity http://www.newmessage….ume-2
Amina_Russia:  Thank you, Kristina, i will surely check it, interesting
Ellen_Society:  @ Eron, thank you for the reminder that several extremely important BEINGS of our Allies gave their very lives – lost their precious lives – in bringing this essential message to Marshall, to Earth.
Tamara~Boulder:  From Allies Book 1… “But the need is tremendous, for there is no security, there is no place to hide, there is no retreat in the world that is secure from the alien presence that is here. That is why there are only two choices: you can acquiesce or you can stand for your freedom.” I am becoming an unstoppable force thanks to my evolvement as a student of Knowledge. As a person living the way of Knowledge, the skills and abilities developing within me and spreading to those around the world give me great strength, great awareness, and unbounded gratitude. “It (Knowledge) is the greatest force in the universe, and your visitors do not use it. It is your only hope.”
Dariel_Boulder:  @Dar…Last night it struck me–as I was struggling to pull myself to KN out of separation–that MVS has had to struggle with this for 40 some years. He has had to commit himself again and again to do the work he came to do and do it without the support of a WWC and many books in support of developing KN. I sat in amazement as I thought of his strength in KN and devotion to his mission.
maurice_winnipeg:  Reading the books of The Allies of Humanity for me answered many questions for me and my curiosity was overwhelmed. My fear was why were we being visited and why wasn’t anything being done about it. I knew there was nothing we could do against the ET element physically because they seemed to be untouchable in that manner. So when reading the books it occurred to me that it was up to me to educate myself to improving myself just in case we had to confront them one day. The book gave me hope and encouragement that one day the immature people of this planet would wake up and together we could gain the advantage over the visitors and tell them as a united front to leave us and our planet alone because we aren’t ready for them. Not yet anyway.
Carol_Society:  @Robert, Tyyne, others: Yes, we have a lot of work to do: “It is time for you to grow up and think of greater things—to think of the welfare of your planet, to think of the stability of your environment, to think of world security now and not merely the security of your own nation.
This is a great opportunity for human unity, perhaps the greatest you will ever have. For the need is the greatest you will ever face, and the challenge is the greatest you have ever encountered.” As adolescents in the universe, focused on our own personal problems, it is indeed time for us to grow up…and think of greater things…
Cameron_Canada:  @Paul – Intended and unintended
Keiko_Ita:  Even the mental environment, how we can discern whether this is good or that is not good? How?
Tonia_Denmark:  What stood out for me was that: “Your Allies are here to provide wisdom and guidance and the perspective that humanity will need to comprehend the neighbourhood of space into which you are emerging and what your advantages and disadvantages are.”
Patricia_Society:  @Lin(9:19)Thank you for this is an example of what I call a “dedicated or unique study” as part of a “studenthood structure”. Marshall has said, “The New Message provides us many new pathways to explore as part of our studenthood and development. ” In reading the Greater Community chapters, I found there are three major GC forces referred to, the Allies, the neighbors, and the Intervention-resource explorers and economic collectives. I felt a strong need to delve into this subject and study more from relevant teachings also in GCS, Wisdom, LIU and Allies briefings, to learn about their perspectives, intentions and activities.”
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Alio, “has anyone ever contacted-befriended David Jacobs”, from any of us, not that I know of .
Joyanne_Canada:  @Dariel … what a demonstration for us.. when we falter ..get swept downstream.. re-dedication and re-commitment.. Never give up..
Mathieu-France:  Our responsibility now is to keep alive what the Allies and the Assembly gave us through our Messenger through our preparation and contribution to the world. the flame must not die out for humanity.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  ” They are part of a larger alliance where the mental influence upon them is strong. They are serving that power, so they are not here for their own interests, though their own interests seem to be served by their presence here, according to the directives that are given to them by those whom they serve. They do not look upon you with scorn or enmity; they do not look upon you as if you were stupid and ignorant. They are learning to exploit your weaknesses but are having great difficulty understanding your psychology. This makes you a greater challenge to them than you would be otherwise. Your technology is understandable to them, but it is your unusual nature and how you can use your growing technology that concerns them” WGC2. Visitors Perceptions of Humanity http://www.newmessage….ume-2
Paul_MA:  Mental Environment: Who shares our mental environment? Does all Sentient Life share one Mental Environment?
alisa_Russia:  @Mathieu – yes!
Jennie_Netherlands:  @Keiko, as a child I had this question and asked it to my grandfather. He said: You will Know. You will feel it in your heart.
LaRaeUK:  A superb reminder Rayhobbs, that the human spirit befuddles them….and is our strength.
manuel germany :):  @Darlene. Yes it is a calling to service. But in my humble opinion I believe that we will be only in a position to repay our debt once we maintain our freedom and sovereignty when facing GC forces and the GWC. Only then, (in future generations) we can repay our debt as humanity by doing what the Allies have done under the greatest sacrifice and devotion to fly to a distant planet (or starsystem) to an emerging race and give them the wisdom and share with them what the Allies have done in their Briefings to humanity. We are in debt with our Spiritual Family who have taken great efforts to bring us where we are to bring to the world which is most needed: contribution, forgiveness, Knowledge by working all together throughout the world to become united, to bring the awareness that the environment is the base to our self-sufficiency, thus we have to restore and protect, otherwise…
Ellen_Society:  RE: David Jacobs: Yes many have contacted him and sent our gratitude for his work. Most Recently, Levy spent time with him at a UFO Conference in Brazil.
Lin_Boulder:  Thank you Patricia and MVS for the deep study teaching.
alisa_Russia:  @Paul – good question!
Cameron_Canada:  @ Paul – Perhaps layers but also an excellent question.
Mathieu-France:  @Keiko: discernment of presence and intention comes with practice, I guess.
Alison_Boulder:  @Mathieu, it is a relief to have that priority clear. It is a reference point, where the steering wheel corrections lead back to.
Carolyn-CT:  @Paul: I am reminded of the power of the mind. A concentrated mind is more powerful than in unfocused mind (paraphrasing). I think it’s in the NM WIKI under Mental Environment. Or ‘Mind’.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Ellen, Eron, Yes the AOH did give their lives in service to us and that should always be remembered when we speak or think of the AOH!
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Darlene for sharing “It moves me every time I hear this part of the Allies’ story and consider ours…not only do we have a “debt to pay” ~”
Matt_bzn:  @Alio – I have tried reaching out to Dr’ Jacobs several times. No response.
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Dariel He is one of a kind in a hostile and dangerous environment. His strength has honored us and in turn he needs us to be strong. He is “honored when others (we) are strong.” Step 244.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “There are several different interests which are represented by your visitors. They are not aligned with each other and in some cases are even in competition with each other. Yet, there is a general consensus, given the priorities of advancing races in the Greater Community, that your environment must be preserved even if your race destroys itself. You see, in the Greater Community, environment is considered more important than racial survival. Here you have a natural world with millions of species of plants and animals, a magnificent creation, the result of millions of years of development, all now at risk because of one selfish race that is spoiling the world out of ignorance and greed.” WGC2.28 Greater Community Realities http://www.newmessage….ume-2
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Ellen, thanks for the clarification, Levy speaking to Dr. Jacobs.
alisa_Russia:  I second that, Lin. I have been listening to Patricia’s Deep Study Methodology this week and trying to integrate it into my practice. It’s very powerful.
Alio-Austin Tx:  Levi filled me in on David Jacobs shut down-rejection of “channeled” material. I will let this cook. There may be a way.
Paul_MA:  A question on Seers… are these people born with the ability or have they been trained in the ways of Kg?
Chot:  Je suis
Shane – New Zealand:  There are so many similarities in what we face as a species to what we face in life individually, so to honestly accept our responsibility to be self sufficient and workout our problems as a race, we must address our responsibility to do it in our individual lifes. I feel I see this demonstrated often in peoples response, if that makes sense,
Keiko_Ita:  @Jennie, we know, yes.
Levy_Brazil:  @Paul, I don’t know, but there’s a chapter in Life in the Universe that talks about Seers.
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Joit Moi aussi.
justin-calif-!:  As some of you know, I think I may have discovered a hybrid- in a position of power- actually the “Legal Council”, in charge of keeping the FLUORIDE in our local water supply. Not sure how to react as “outing” this thing could get one eliminated- for now I just refrain from going to the Water dept. meetings as my speeches, videos, etc, seem to have no effect on policy. I do get the impression this “person” has a cold blooded contempt for humanity that people I have brought along to the meetings have commented on-
Matt_bzn:  @Levi – can you share Dr Jacob’s reactions or how your interaction went?
Thomas_Boulder:  I’ve found it useful to include in my life-mappping a map of the mental environment, to whatever extent I can visualize it.
Alio-Austin Tx:  Paul… re: seers… Both
90932:  Hello, everyone!
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “The Greater Community Way of Knowledge takes many years to learn. This requires perseverance. It requires that you stay with it and practice it as it is given. It requires that you continue to move through the stages of development both internally and externally so that a Greater Community perspective may be fostered within you. This represents a greater viewpoint of life and a greater recognition of your abilities and application in the world around you. But if you alter the curriculum, you will not learn. If you do not stay with it, you will not learn.” WGC2.33 Perseverence http://www.newmessage….ume-2
Selma London:  We are being given the opportunity to have a necessary world, where what’s essential becomes obvious and the solutions eventually become simple. But we have to stop our ridiculousness. Everything is being provided for us to find a world with Knowledge.
Cameron_Canada:  Speaking of contacting people …has anyone from the society attempted to contact Steven Greere (spelling is wrong).
LaRaeUK:  Very interesting Justin, do continue to be careful.
Joyanne_Canada:  like the Allies, MVS, Patrica, Reed, the Society and perhaps us are giving our lives to further Freedom in the further the Greater Coordination. We are here for a purpose and move beyond self service to real service in the greater scheme of God’s Plan.
Keiko_Ita:  @Mathieu, Practice to practice, YES!
Alio-Austin Tx:  Hello… you are appearing as 90932…. oops
Martin_Australia:  @Paul, it seems they might have natural abilities, definitely training but not necessarily in the Way of Knowledge
Dariel_Boulder:  @Tamara… “It (KN) is your only hope.” This says it all! We can consider many other ways of looking at the Intervention–positively, negatively–but it does come down to KN. What are we doing for ourselves and for humanity if we are not developing a stronger foundation in KN through STEPS practice?
Amina_Russia:  Thanks, Alisa reminding about Patricia’s Deep Study Methodology, i need to do that too..
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Justin, yes, I’ve seen her picture you showed and you can pickup a feeling of disdain from that thing!
Debbie-MI:  @Kristina-I have often had the same questions regarding becoming strong in the Mental Environment. I am also not entirely clear on how one could develop skills in the Mental Environment in relation to the Greater Community. Obviously, STK is foundational, but I also wonder if there are additional skills or understanding that need to be developed in becoming strong in the Mental Environment?
Josef Austria:  @Alio, Month ago I have emailed to him AOH. No answer.
Alio-Austin Tx:  Stephen G is overtaken by the intervention beyond salvation this lifetime in my opinion
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Consider this, because we are preparing you for the Greater Community. Consider the concentration of those who are joined together in singular purpose and are visiting the world at this time. You cannot yet match their concentration. You are much too distracted.” WGC2.31 Concentration http://www.newmessage….ume-2
Matt_bzn:  And speaking of UFO researchers, Jim Marrs, who contributed much to the study of The Intervention passed away this week.
Cameron_Canada:  well…eventually everyone must be saved
Thomas_Boulder:  In some way, mapping the ME is also mapping the mind.
Joyanne_Canada:  I noticed MVS isn’t here today. Upon the hour can we surround and protect him, send him strength. I hope he is well.. NNC
Levy_Brazil:  @Matt, he doesn’t believe in what he describes as “revealed” information (or “channeling”). In other words, it has to come from human observation. He did shutdown when I mentioned the Allies message. But he’s a man of science and logic, so I hope at some point he will see the LOGIC in the Allies message (competition, freedom, etc). Regardless of hope, he’s a very brave man for doing this work for decades and is indeed revealing part of the ET agenda to humanity through his books/lectures/interviews, although without the SOLUTION.
Keiko_Ita:  Visitors have “collective mind”, I guess.
Reed_Society:  @Wendy, yes what a new arena and playing field we now stand on. Collectively we are unprepared. But individually we are preparing. This is the critical importance of enough people preparing in time, influencing positively those who have not prepared, becoming vocal advocates on the powerful global switchboard of the internet. The truth can move faster than we think. “Never underestimate the power of a small group of dedicated individuals.”
Carolyn-CT:  @Mike_LF, Alio and others on the thread of Hybrids, etc., for me the value of S. Greer and D. Jacobs, and others, is that they inadvertently point the way to the NM, whether that is their intention or not.
Alison_Boulder:  @Matt, yes, it occurred to me we can express gratitude at the same time as sharing the Allies perspectives, as advocates, in YoutTube comments and book reviews on Amazon of Jim Marr’s work.
Jorge_Spain:  Thank you @Levy
Keiko_Ita:  We must have a shared mind to counteract them, right?
Wendy, NY:  Shane, yes, part of the impact of the Briefings has been for me to see that dealing responsibly with individual issues and things close to home is part of what is needed to deal with the larger picture. Before my thinking about the posibility of there being “others” was very metaphysical – not in a form that would help me deal with the reality.
maurice_winnipeg:  @Reed Thank you for that
Cameron_Canada:  good observation Carolyn
Martin_Australia:  @Shane, that makes sense and I have been thinking the same thing recently
Tonia_Denmark:  Sending blessings to Marshall.
alisa_Russia:  @Debbie – they way I understand it, being strong in the mental environment means developing specific skills that enable you to protect your mind from being influenced by the mental environment you are in. Making it impossible for others to read your mind.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Have you been influenced by this Intervention?
Tamara~Boulder:  “The more people can think alike, act alike and respond in predictable ways, the more useful they are to the collectives.” Allies Book 1 This truth helps keep me in check…..what are my predictable ways of responding? What is happening in societies that support them to act alike, think alike, and respond predictably?
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Has it impacted you?
Matt_bzn:  @Levy – thank you. You are totally right I suspect. He has given his life and advancement at Temple to his research. We all owe him a debt of gratitude.
Levy_Brazil:  Wow, thanks Tamara for this passage.
Darlene_Society:  It is now the hour. Let us stop the mind and tune into the deeper mind.
Insuk_Korea:  Yes, Tyyne .I agree with you “We must do our own work and become strong with Knowledge.~”
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Does the forces of the intervention know of you?
Tyyne_Society:  Insuk – and reach the world at the same time.
Betty_UK:  @Dar & Tynne – There are 3 words which caught my attention when listening to ‘Who are the Allies of Humanity?’ Complex/complicated, important & dangerous. It led me to this question in the revelation ‘How does a race such as yours maintain its freedom and self-determination amidst the presence of powerful and persuasive forces who will seek to undermine your confidence, your unity and your courage?’ The words Confidence, unity and courage stood out, which led me to understand certain aspects, but the question I wish to share is – Why is it so important that emerging worlds become free nations (where there is a potential for that emerging world to become free)? I know now why. To keep spirituality alive. I feel this is an important question for me, to explore further on what would it mean to me and others and beyond, if the world was not to become a free nation?
Kelvin_Boulder:  @Tamara, yes! Thank you for sharing…
Dariel_Boulder:  @Debbie-MI…I want to share a SOH with you that addresses your question of, “How do we become stronger in the ME?” #15: “Regarding the issue of Listening” many of you prepare to listen but give up too soon. The Teachers do not need preparation, but you need to find a way to hear, and this receptivity must be developed. It is retraining the mind to be in relationship.” I have trouble controlling my. All of a sudden I am aware that retraining my mind to be in relationship is about developing my most primary relationship–with KN. It is critical for strengthening and hearing KN but also for control in the ME. I am putting emphasis here.
alisa_Russia:  @Ray, so far all my answers to your questions are “I don’t know.”
Wendy, NY:  @Reed, and thinking of Maurice in Winnipeg; I have roots in Winnipeg, home of the General Strike – such a powerful collective action by ordinary people who stood up for their rights; in a way an inspiring model for a sovereignty movement :))
Alio-Austin Tx:  Josef, it might take a tickling of David Jacob’s wants, needs-interests to overcome his first reaction knee jerk response. He wants to be heard and he wants to win, he wants to save the world and needs allies.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Levy, do feel that you were able to plant a seed with Dr. Jacobs?
Maureen_Boulder:  Yes, Reed. Even in our lifetime, opinions and beliefs have changed regarding things that were previously unquestioned. “Smoking causes cancer.” “Drunk drivers need to be held accountable for their actions.” There was a time decades ago when #1 was not believed and #2 went unpunished even when there was a death involved. I can think of others but these two get the point across.
Reed_Society:  A big thank you to all students (and a hefty number of new readers!) who have contributed to the Kickstarter project and larger Greater Community education and awareness Campaign (http://www.newmessage….paign). The complete book has been shared with all of the Kickstarter contributors and will go out to the students of the Free School shortly as well.
Matt_bzn:  @alisa – and also having a neutral mind. They can amplify your preferences or your state of mind in the ME. BY being mentally neutral, they have nothing to amplify…
Reed_Society:  You can still support the Kickstarter at: https://www.kickstarte…ad-wo

Ayesha_Society:  I’d like to start off by thanking our current pillars and friends. The community of givers provides the essential financial stability for the New Message now and into the future, which is so necessary. If you are interested in becoming a part of this community of givers, please visit: http://www.newmessage….ssage

I second and echo Reed: MANY THANKS to all of our backers in Kickstarter who helped make this project a success. Your enthusiasm and motivation has been so refreshing! We have 3 more days to go and there is still time to contribute to the Kickstarter for the launch of the Greater Community book.

We still have greater goal of fundraising to reach for the Greater Community Campaign which you can learn more about http://www.newmessage….paign

alisa_Russia:  @Betty – where did you find the audio recording? I couldn’t find it…
Inhee_Korea:  @Reed thank you. I gain strength from your words ” Never underestimate the power of a small group of dedicated individuals.”
maurice_winnipeg:  @Betty If the world doesn’t become free we are all going to be Galactic Slaves
Alison_Boulder:  How can you help the Society in Advocacy in the coming week? Here are just 2 of many recommendations: 

1. Thank you to everyone who has supported the Kickstarter project to bring awareness and education about Contact and life in the universe worldwide. We have met our initial goal and the pledged amount is still rising! Please share this campaign link in Facebook groups, blogs and Twitter the final few days. The full book will be released on the day of the solar eclipse: August 21st.https://www.kickstarte…j9g5r
2. Subscribe to the NM YouTube channel, comment on this video, The Fortress of Belief, words of MVS, and share with others.…QXypkAdvocacy Gatherings continue every Thursday. Take this opportunity to join and raise your voice against the Intervention. We meet at, 6:30MDT and 7BST. Email [email protected] to get on the…
Alison_Boulder:  … mailing list and learn more about assisting the Society in coordinated advocacy.
Joyanne_Canada:  @Reed we are blessed to be able to participate.. thank you
Youngkyo_Korea:  Yes, Reed. Resonating with you “Never underestimate the power of a small group of dedicated individuals.”
MaryL_Boulder:  @Carolyn, yes these UFO researchers/speakers have broken the ground of denial so the soil can be planted with the New Message enabling some seeds to germinate and grow. But to expect and hope that these known names can add creditability is counting on someone to save us. It is up to all the nameless, little known people like us to help carry this message, stand for the truth and support the Messenger.
alisa_Russia:  @Matt – yes! Being neutral is very important. Thanks for the reminder 
LaRaeUK:  So true MaryL.
Jennie_Netherlands:  @Dariel, thank you for sharing this
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Whomever is doing the transcript for this chat could you please include what Tynne and Robert have said in the beginning before the start of the hour? It would be greatly appreciated by me and I’m sure many others.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “If the answer is yes to any or all of these questions, then you must engage in the preparation with great seriousness and commitment
because your life has been taken from you to a certain degree, and you must gain it back.!
You must restore yourself. You must set boundaries and be able to exercise your authority sufficiently so that the Intervention cannot have
influence upon you. You must understand that who you are is not your mind and your intellect and that you can stand apart from your intellect and guide it and direct it according to a greater will and power within yourself.
In this way, that which is strong within you can guide that which is weak. That which is invulnerable can guide that which is vulnerable.
But to achieve this is a very great preparation with many steps and stages.
It involves taking the Steps to Knowledge and gaining a real Greater Community education. It involves plumbing the depths of your own experience; setting aside fear and avoidance; and being…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … with yourself and exploring your states, your condition, your beliefs and your attitudes with a greater objectivity and a greater clarity. God has an answer to this great and unseen problem. God has given you the power of Knowledge to guide you, to protect you and to bless you. But only through the New Revelation is this power revealed clearly, without the overlay of human history, conflict and tragedy, in a pure form that is very accessible. You can find this through your religious traditions, but you would need a very wise teacher to guide you, and such a teacher may be difficult to find. You are trying to gain access to your deeper experience, and if this experience has been blocked, then you must try to break through the resistance within yourself, to break down the wall that has been built around your inner awareness and experience so that you can gain access to it.
This is a very significant and important matter. Do not make light of it, and do not share it with others who…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … cannot appreciate its importance.
Be very careful who you share your own experience of the Intervention with, for many people will dispute it. Many people will make fun of it and diminish it, for in the consensus of human thought, it is not considered possible or realistic.
Here you must value your own experience over that which seems to prevail in human thinking and awareness, which is largely blind and
controlled by forces that most people do not even understand. You must gain this strength, this self-confidence and this sense of
integrity. If you have been influenced by the Intervention or affected by it in any way, then you will have to regain what has been lost and
compromised. The means to do this are now with you and available to you.
Be very earnest here to honor yourself and your experience, regardless of what the world thinks. And only share these matters with
those who can seriously consider them and who will support you in gaining a greater freedom, a greater purpose…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … and a greater truth within
your life.”
“Surround yourself and protect yourself by saying Nasi Novare Coram, which is a protection given by the Angelic Presence.”Protecting Yourself From The Intervention
Darlene_Society:  @MaryL – hear hear!
Shane – New Zealand:  @Ray, I would say yes. The longer I am with this journey the more I am aware of the interventions influence on society, and as a member of society it would be naive of me to think it hasn’t affected and influenced me at times.


The Messenger Speaks: The Fortress of Belief
Read the words and listen to the voice of the Messenger, as his great wisdom pours forth to us and to the world.

Campfire Chat Transcriptions: http://www.newmessage….ripts
Today’s Chat transcript will be posted at the end of our discussion.

MaryS_Boulder:  @Paul, from the New Message wiki on seers, a great page by another student http://www.newmessage….Seers
Carolyn-CT:  TY Maureen! The ancient successful physicians derided the notion of microbes as pathogens (being the cause of illness). When people say, “if there is an Intervention, where are They?” I will use this as an example. Also how Indiginous Americans were unable to recognize the tall Europen ships as a threat, or see them at all.
Matt_bzn:  Thanks for that info Reed. I missed the Kickstarter info the first time.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @MaryL, I 2nd @Darlene, hear, hear!
Martin_Australia:  @Reed, thank you, a brilliant and inspired idea to do the Kickstarter!
Patricia_Society:  @Robert(9:23) Thank you. This represents a process of maturation and “stabilization” relevant to us as participants, and something we must consider and assess for ourselves. These are the innumerable “stabilization” tracts each of us are individually and currently on. Stabilization: Studenthood, 4 Pillars, Support and Service….”We must step up, we must develop our abilities and strengthen ourselves. We have things to do and gifts to give. We have a preparation now and much work to do. It is before us…can each one of us respond and do this? Thank you all for the progress being made individually, and collectively as a movement for Knowledge and Greater Community awareness…and planetary self sovereignty..Stabilize…..we must…
Kristina_Boulder:  I remember one of the exercises that was given by MVS regarding developing sensitivity in ME. If you go places, like stores or people houses or any other closed environments, pay attention on how each place feels? Do any of you remember any other exercises or perhaps something you practice on your own and find it helpful?
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Carolyn Yes!! There is a great novel out that I read about that, the physician who tried to tell people about the importance of merely washing your hands before touching a patient. He was mocked and ridiculed because a blood stained white coat was a status symbol. The dirtier your coat, the more important and dedicated a physician you were considered to be. It sounds ridiculous now just as not believing that there is an intervention taking place will be in the future.
Tamara~Boulder:  Ray…my brief encounter happened in the mental realm a few years ago. I was able to quickly see what mental patterns within myself were being usurped, break any agreements I had with those patterns, and maintain a higher state of awareness…an awareness to the signs that something was working to penetrate my mind. Then I entered prayer and meditation to watch…what is happening here? This lasted only a month and they moved on. This experience strengthened me to a great degree. Yet the beginning of this experience happened when I became active in online advocacy. I have yet to return to online advocacy in any real sense…. a fear that I must face and overcome perhaps for otherwise they may have succeeded in some sense.
Jennie_Netherlands:  Yes Kristina, check how you feel on every level when you wake up in the morning, emotional, physical, spiritual, mental. Everything that is feeling different afterwards might not be yours…
justin-calif-!:  Have to run, gang- thanx again for sharing your wisdom and strength! NNC, J
Dariel_Boulder:  Dear Patricia…”Stabilize I must!”
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “People who undertake the reclamation of Knowledge often find themselves withdrawing from life in certain ways in order to minimize or limit the influences of society upon them. This gives them the freedom to re-evaluate themselves without feeling bombarded by the world’s influences and images. This is why many people who begin to study The Greater Community Way of Knowledge seek escape from television, radio and even music—not because these things are inherently bad but because they are so influential. They withdraw from individuals who influence them in ways that are counterproductive to their well-being and to their ability to refocus their mind. This withdrawal is necessary for people to rethink their thoughts, to have the freedom of evaluation, to gain control of their own mental forces, to deepen their awareness of themselves and to become more sensitive to the things that are influencing them.” WGC2.12…
Robert_Society:  Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram
Matt_bzn:  @Tamara – thank you for sharing that. I have questions surrounding that issue myself.
Betty_UK:  @Alisa, the audio is here – http://www.newmessage….anity
Susan_Malaysia:  Thank you everyone , Nasi Novare Coram
Mathieu-France:  @Kristina: I noticed ME is hard to discern because this is something we’re always “in”, so contrast was helpful for me to begin to refine my ME sense. How do I feel here? How do I feel there? Can I be myself here? Do I feel restraint regarding how I can be, what I can say, etc? Just beginning questions, but which helps me develop some discernment in what I globally feel. One of the first preliminary thing, of course, if paying attention. I noticed a few times that in the presence of some individuals I had even difficulty to maintain the same thoughts, as if I was partly overtaken by a stronger mind. I also think that the more still you can be the more capacity to discern you have…
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you rayhobbs!
LaRaeUK:  Yes Ray….I have withdrawn from TV, Radio, for I do not wish to have someone else choose what I see or listen too.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Kristina (9:08), that’s a great question for people to share their experience with…
manuel germany :):  Today I would like to honor and express my deep gratitude to the members of The Society and all the wonderful fellow students and all of you who work behind the scenes who have been supporting the Messenger and his Sacred Family all this years. Because without this great dedicated work we would not be where we stand now. Thank you so much – You are so blessed by your giving…
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Tamara for sharing your experience. Very helpful!
Jennie_Netherlands:  Thank you all, Nasi Novare Coram
Virpi_Fi:  Kristina, one personal exercise of contrast. Find a beautiful place that has bad ME, find an unpleasing place that has good ME.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Amen Manuel…
maurice_winnipeg:  Thanks to all you beautiful people who made my day today…
Cameron_Canada:  @Tamara – breaking from those negative influences is not all that difficult. It only requires recognition and concentration although it may be a little scary at first.
Mathieu-France:  @Virpi: that’s a good exercise!
LaRaeUK:  Hear hear manuel….seconded.
Richmond_UK:  Thank you everyone for today’s chat. Nasi Novare Coram
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Maureen, that’s a great story about the mocked Doctor!
Betty_UK:  @Maurice, yes that too, but it isn’t just that, something else changes at a deeper level.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Here you can begin to understand why the Wise withdraw so completely from the influences of the world. They realize that the mental environment in which they live will dominate them unless they take great and significant steps in insulating themselves from it. They have also learned over time that they can influence the mental environment of the world through the forms of spiritual practice that they have learned and that they reinforce. They withdraw from the gross influences to a very great degree. Then they are able to discern the subtle influences, and they are able to establish their own foundation and then contribute from this foundation. If they are wise, they do this without condemnation because when you condemn something, you enter into relationship with it.” WGC2.12 http://www.newmessage….nment
jeanine_Society:  How you can help report errors and get help:
Thomas_Boulder:  Thank you for sharing your experience, Tamara.
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Mike I remembered the name of the book. The Cry and the Covenant. Excellent read and truly shows that public opinion can be so off the mark and eventually righted albeit slowly.
Martin_Australia:  A teaching about the Mental Environment: http://www.newmessage….nment
Keiko_Ita:  @Virpi, it works better sometimes in a challenging situation, yes!
Cameron_Canada:  Thank you for that quote Ray.
alisa_Russia:  Thank you everyone for your sharing and insights. Nasi Novare Coram
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Thank you Rayhobbs for all our timely quotes.
Tyyne_Society:  Thank you everyone for your participation today, for your courage, for your strength, for being willing to go beyond one’s current understanding and face and prepare for the reality of contact with intelligent life in the universe. And to begin and continue the spiritual pathway provided by the Messenger and the Great Coordination. Thank you.

rayhobbs_Colorado:  “YOU ARE NOT MERELY A HUMAN BEING in this one world. You are a citizen of the Greater Community of Worlds. This is the physical universe that you recognize through your senses. It is far greater than you can now comprehend. The extent of its relationships are far greater than you can even imagine, for reality is always greater than imagination.

YOU ARE A CITIZEN OF A GREATER PHYSICAL UNIVERSE. This acknowledges not only your Lineage and your Heritage but also your purpose in life at this time, for the world of humanity is growing into the life of the Greater Community of Worlds. This is known to you, though your beliefs may not yet account for it.

“, … affirm your citizenship in the Greater Community of Worlds, for this affirms a greater life that you are now beginning to discover. ”

” , … once again enter stillness and quietude. This growing experience of stillness will enable you to understand all things, for your mind was created to assimilate Knowledge, and this is how…

rayhobbs_Colorado:  … understanding comes about. The accumulation of ideas and the accumulation of theories do not constitute either Knowledge or understanding, for understanding is born of true affinity and experience. In this, it has no parallel in the world and can thus serve the world that you perceive.”

Excerpts: Step 187

Ellen_Society:  Thanks to each and every one of you for your student-hood and devotion. We deeply appreciate your participation in this important chat.
Reed_Society:  @Ayesha, 94 people have backed the Kickstarter campaign. I wonder if we can take it over 100?
Jeanne_Boulder:  Step 118
T HERE IS NO NEED TO AVOID THE WORLD because the world cannot dominate you when you are with Knowledge.When
you are with Knowledge, you are here to serve the world.The world, then, is not a prison anymore. It is not a continual source of discomfort and disappointment. It provides for you an opportunity to give and an opportunity to re-establish your true understanding. Do not seek refuge in spiritual things, for your purpose is to give to the world. Allow the world to be as it is, and your condemnation of it will not come back to haunt you. For without condemnation, there is only the opportunity to give.This will draw upon your Knowledge, which will give of its own, and you will be the vehicle for its giving.
THINK OF THIS NOW. Allow yourself in your two practice periods to experience the presence of Knowledge in your life. Demand nothing of it. Seek not to question it. Only allow yourself to experience it, for with this all that you seek…
Jeanne_Boulder:  … returns to you naturally without your effort. Utilize your self-discipline only to direct your mind in the proper direction. Once it is so engaged, it will return to Knowledge of its own accord. For that is its destination, that is its love, that is its true companion and that is its true marriage in life.
PRACTICE 118: Two 30-minute practice periods.
Levy_Brazil:  Thanks, Virpi. “one personal exercise of contrast. Find a beautiful place that has bad ME, find an unpleasing place that has good ME.”
Keiko_Ita:  @rayhobbs, relationships!
Amina_Russia:  Blessing to be here, Thank you all for sharing, Nasi Novaer Koram.
Alio-Austin Tx:  Thanks to all. Remember to, and help me remember to bless each moment and what presents itself each moment today. NNC
Mathieu-France:  Thank you. Nasi Novare Coram
Martin_Australia:  @Virpi, excellent, thank you. I will try it
Jeanne_Boulder:  Nasi Novare Coram
Carolyn-CT:  We ourselves (humans) contribute a lot to the ME. I have noticed this. For example, how does it ‘feel’ to be at an art museum, concert hall, theater? Then how does it feel to be outdoors? The environments we enter and leave are more than just ‘buildings and food’.
Reed_Society:  @Tamara, thank you for sharing that experience, an important benchmark experience for shielding the mind that you can return to
Keiko_Ita:  Thank you all for being here! Nasi Novare Coram.
Carolyn-CT:  I left out, how does it feel to be in a demilitarized zone.
manuel germany :):  Thanks Martin for the link to the teaching about the Mental Environment
Shane – New Zealand:  with Knowledge “you can your own predispositions to the follow forces of dissonance, but you cannot correct the dissonance yourself”
Tyyne_Society:  6 more people in 3 days – thanks, Reed. $1 or more. https://www.kickstarte…ption
Shane – New Zealand:  you can correcr = sorry
Cameron_Canada:  What can be more difficult is to break the negative influences that we have created for our selves
Shane – New Zealand:  aarrgghh technology
Joyanne_Canada:  @Reed .. to contribute twice I had to utilize a new account named for my husband.. not sure why it was so difficult to try to contribute in my name again
Sally_Boulder:  Thank you everyone for contributing to this impactful chat, may the call go out far and wide. NNC
Reed_Society:  @Joyanne, yes one contribution per account I believe
Tonia_Denmark:  The briefings have changed me in beginning to understand that everything happens on the inside. What I see and hear on the outside becomes an experience on the inside.
Levy_Brazil:  Joyanne, you can change the existing amount, if that’s what you want
Shane – New Zealand:  I shouldnt blame my tools, its my atdd attention to detail disorder. LOl
MaryL_Boulder:  Thank you everyone for your words, listening, seeing and acting from a deeper place of Knowledge. We come together and the fire burns HOT but we must carry this fire with us into the world to ignite others thus keeping Knowledge alive in the world. NNC
Darlene_Society:  May everyone here grow stronger mentally, emotionally and in our relationship with Knowledge. This is why we have come. Thank you all for participating in this great experiment. May it succeed with our deepest intentions and love.
Tamara~Boulder:  An imprinting memory from last year’s Encampment occurred when various students read aloud passages from the Allies briefings. To hear their words read aloud moved me to tears, to a deep state of knowing them, of loving them, and to a place of pure compassion for their service. I extend this lasting feeling to them now and to all those here in our world making the journey back to their true Self, with Knowledge as their guide.
Carolyn-CT:  @Shane: resonating. I have to do a hard reboot. LOL I’ll be back in a few minutes.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  ” … there is a second redemption. And that is to give to others—to share your wealth, to share your time, to share whatever you can in service to meeting the real needs of both people and of nature around you.
This is the second redemption. It is not as powerful and fulfilling as the first, but it is significant and will be effective. Those who have been driven through all of their life can find themselves at the end with the opportunity to give, to be benefactors—benefactors with wealth, if they have wealth; benefactors of time, if they have time; benefactors of care, if they have the strength to do this. So there is a second redemption.” The Sacred Rendezvoushttp://www.newmessage….zvous
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Reed, @ Alison, I have been too busy to get into the Kickstarter program, what do I do to get started?
Alexandra_NL:  This Chat is part of such an essential learning environment in the evolution of the Human race and key to the preservation of our Sovereignty … what a blessing, what a miracle this is. Thank you Society for providing this environment and thank you to all student here for being part of it.
Alio-Austin Tx:  Is the chapter on “Dissonant Forces in the World” from “Relationship and Higher Purpose” available anywhere for promotion and education?
Cameron_Canada:  Speaking of Encampment, I wonder if any dates have been considered? I do hope it is before the school year starts.
Carol_Society:  Thank you to Darlene and Tyyne for facilitating this powerful engagement today. And thanks to Patricia, Reed, and everyone who contributed their experience and wisdom here, all part of our critical contribution and our spiritual purpose to keep Knowledge alive in the world. Nasi Novare Coram.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Tamara for your words! I am with you! Resonating
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Darlene.
Cole_Boulder:  Something I’d like to share – I had an encounter yesterday with a passenger of mine (I am a driver) who is 85, and who I’ve been driving for a number of months now. We began talking and I soon discovered that he had been studying the alien presence – from what I can ascertain – for some 50+ years. As I asked him questions about what conclusions he had come to regarding the phenomenon, what surfaced were layers of complexity and pacification, convoluted beliefs that were very firm and concentrated. He was rather open to what I thought, and was glad just that I was aware of it, but it was all too clear he was set in his ways. It made me reflect on just how essential and necessary this preparation and education on the GC is, which only God can provide. Without Knowledge, without the perspective of the Unseen Ones and our allies in space, there would be absolutely no hope…thankfully that is not the case.
Jeanne_Boulder:  No Encampment until 2018
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thanks again rayhobbs for your quote @12:23!!! Good stuff!
Ellen_Society:  Thank you Darlene and Tyyne for facilitating the chat today!
Joyanne_Canada:  No Levy I wanted to buy the 5 books, in addition to what I already bought.. so I had to get a new account..  fortunately I was able to do it by utilizing my husband to make an account. LOL.
Cameron_Canada:  Yes – I was referring to 2018
jeanine_Society:  Thank you each and everyone one of you for being here today in support of your studenthood, each other and the Messenger/Mission. Nasi Novare Coram.
LaRaeUK:  Thank you for sharing that Cole…..
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Thank you for sharing that Cole.
Ayesha_Society:  Mike: You will need to start an account in Kickstarter. Its very easy and takes minutes. Once you’ve created your account, on the side bar you simply choose how much you want to contribute and you can follow the instructions on the link. Here is the link: https://www.kickstarte…_menu
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thanks for sharing your experience Cole!
Joyanne_Canada:  I am so grateful for all here.. your strength and contributions is very inspiring, uplifting and strengthening.. Be well all, may we all continue to get stronger in Knowledge, so we can play our small part.. We are so Blessed.. NNC
Robert_Society:  @Cameron – We are finalizing our plans for the 2018 Encampment. Most likely, it will be during October of 2018. We hope to post the details and information needed to register soon. Thank you for asking.
Cameron_Canada:  Thank you Robert
MaryL_Boulder:  @Cole, thanks for sharing that experience. An example of “fortress of belief” who may go to his grave with his beliefs intact. I hope you will come across someone who may be old but with a mind that so set in concrete. Still your questions may cause small tremors in his foundation? 
Carolyn-CT:  Time for me to sign off. Sending gratitude, strength and love to our gathering of the ‘like minded’. NNC
MaryS_Boulder:  Alio, There’s this http://www.newmessage….nance and you can search “Dissonance” on the wiki; here you want to select not the page by that title, but the pull-down “containing Dissonance”
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thanks Robert! Looking forward to it!!!!
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Ayesha, @Alison copy that, thanks!
Tonia_Denmark:  Shane, I am not much fond of technology either.
LaRaeUK:  Thank you Robert…….so looking forward to it.
Jorge_Spain:  Thanks for sharing, @Cole
Joyanne_Canada:  OH Robert that’s great news.. I am so looking forward to that gathering.. My husbands tells me he is coming with me this time. It will be a time for reconnecting
Cameron_Canada:  I guess i better start saving up my volunteer days. (extra days of for doing extra-curricular activities)
rayhobbs_Colorado:  “If you have the opportunity to meet the Messenger in his remaining years on Earth, it would be a great blessing for you.” ….. ” For all who will assist the Messenger and carry the Revelation into the world in its pure form will have to develop this veil, this power, this presence. They must be hidden too around certain people and certain places. They too must hold within their hearts the Fire of Knowledge and not let the world take it from them and exploit them. They too will have to comprehend the example of the Messenger, even far beyond his life, to see its demonstration, its relevance and importance for them and how they must learn to be in the world—a world of truth and folly, a world of misunderstanding and misconceptions. Here you do not need a hero to worship, but you do need an example to follow.
For to realize your greater purpose in the world, you must understand the things that We are speaking of here today. The life and the demonstration of the Messenger will help…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … you,…” The Veil of the Messenger http://www.newmessage….enger
Reed_Society:  @Cole, thank you for sharing, getting the AOH and GC perspective to people early in their search is very important. The thoughts we think, information we take in, side journeys we take all condition our brain, create neural connections that become hard and fast, and when a simple, truthful message comes our way, our brain may have simply fired too long in the wrong direction to respond to it. It is a sobering realization: potentially millions with a real GC connection and destiny have been swimming in a soup of misinformation, delusion and errant association for years, decades, only then to have a momentary encounter with the truth. If we can get out there, and start really sharing this Greater Community awareness and education broadly, reaching people new to the topic and arena of Contact, the Allies/GC revelation and preparation can begin to climb higher up the pyramid of global awareness on this topic, to be a core block way up at the top, vs a block lost in obscurity at the bottom.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  May we spend time being with what is within us and in honor of Marshall for what he has been given and what has been given to us and the world through him! It is a great blessing and responsibility and to Return is always so powerful! May the Presence be with you all! Thank you everyone!!
Maureen_Boulder:  @ Alison. Thank you for your dedication in heading up the Advocacy group and advocacy efforts. Commendable and important work.
manuel germany :):  Many thanks for this wonderful chat, above all big thanks to the moderators and the contributions and wisdom shared by my fellow NM and STK students. I wish you all a blissful week – may the Presence be with you all. Nasi Novare Coram.  Hasta la semana que viene! 
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Retreana Carvedan Celton Iy: “Receive the Heart of God through your Spiritual Family that is joined about you.” Nasi Novare Coram http://www.newmessage….guage
LaRaeUK:  Amen Reed…..and Jim.
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Darlene and Tyyne for facilitating the chat.
Patricia_Society:  @Sally “during MVS hour of striking on Earth.” Ohhh..this is the time….
Joyanne_Canada:  @Marueen, I second that.. and Happy Birthday Allison!!!
Jim B. Upstate NY:  This is the time…Amen to that!
LaRaeUK:  Thank you everyone. Nasi Novare Coram
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Reed, now Kickstarter says, 97 backers…
Cole_Boulder:  @Reed – resonating with your comments, yes. I notice all too often, generally online, how much personal investment goes into people’s research and ideas and belief-systems… We must broadcast far and wide and find those people who can take the first step, and admit “I am without Knowledge now.” @Mary – I have found it is quite rare to find an elderly person – 70s, 80s, and up – who takes such a position (step 1) – though I bet they are out there!
Cameron_Canada:  Thank you all. Be well.
Mike_LF_CAL:  Thanks everyone. Mavran Mavran Conay Mavran. Nasi Novare Coram.
Debbie-MI:  @Reed and Cole-Thank you for sharing the importance of getting the AOH and GC perspective to people early in their search. I think this is very important. So often when I am sharing the AOH And GC perspective with others, I am struck by the fact that they are often deeply immersed in all kinds of New Age philosophies and especially the dichotomy between ” love and fear” and the dichotomy between “positive and negative”. They will often claim that the NM and the AOH are just negative and fearful teachings. Once people are caught up in years and years of these types of New Age teachings they are often much harder to reach with the NM.
Tonia_Denmark:  Cole, I met a lady of 84 a couple of days ago who knew about the steps and nm. First one I met at all just by a coincidence. Her eyes were glooming of strenght and power. So youre right. Never judge a book… 
Joyanne_Canada:  @Debbie, true, but by posting and even their negative comments it is now in their awareness and Knowledge within them can utilize that when its their time, The Seed has been planted. 
Jim B. Upstate NY:  That has been my experience too Debbie.
Shane – New Zealand:  God has sent you to help save the world. That’s pretty amazing when you think about it. Despite anything I think or believe, the truth is God believes in me (us), so I should too.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @ Shane a member of the society said to me once…”You don’t know how strong and powerful you are.” Something that has stayed with me since.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  That’s awesome to hear Tonia!
Shane – New Zealand:  Awesome, thank you for sharing @Jim
Betty_UK:  Thank you all Nasi Novare Coram, may the presence be with you always.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Thank you all society my fellow students!
Joyanne_Canada:  @Jim.. its true.. we do not see our growth, perhaps we might get a fleeting sense once in awhile, where we are on the mountain..
Cole_Boulder:  Thanks everyone. NNC
Selma London:  Yes, it’s so important for us to remember that we are told again & again that we can do this.

MaryL_Boulder:  @Cole, the brain is hard wired and it’s rough and tough work to remap the circuits. So much more difficult to learn new skills now let alone new ideas. There but for the grace of God go I – a creaking old fortress of belief waiting for death. Thank you God.

Jeffrey_Boulder:  “Her mind, like her house, was furnished with monumental ‘pieces’ that were not meant to be suddenly disarranged.” Edith Wharton, “Xingu”
Tonia_Denmark:  Shane, Jim, so true. Ever tried clearing the skies by singing or saying narahn?
Eron_Boulder:  Blessings everyone…Nasi Novare Coram
Patricia_Society:  Precious exchange here today. Thank you all so much. A wonderful way to be together, in dedication as students, surrounding Marshall, in service to this beautiful world….
Shane – New Zealand:  Thank you All, please excuse my grammatical errors, of which I do make a few, the early hour of the morning here does not really assist. Anyway, thank you all, what a blessing you all are. Gratitude for being found, no longer lost and alone. NNC
Joyanne_Canada:  Thank you Patrica, Precious indeed.

Tonia_Denmark:  Blessings, Patricia and thank you too.
Josef Austria:  Thank you all from around the world! What would I do without your presence. I am so happy, that I was oriented by Unseen Powers to find my destiny. Nasi Novare Coram!
Kelton_Calif:  What is the key to freeing the shackles of belief. I sense it lies near a sincere desire to know the Truth. To acquire the desire for Truth when you believe you already hold it in your beliefs is a real conundrum. May a sincere desire to know the Truth be ignited in every heart. May our desire for Truth be strong and our minds be free to serve Truth and its expression in our world. Nasi Novare Coram
Tonia_Denmark:  We all make mistakes. It is not about the mmistakes… is up to us students to know what is said, ….see the meaning behind….Not finding the mistakes. We save each other by knowing the intention behind the mistake and still call forth each other. The acceptance of ourselves and each other, our fear and our mistakes……
Tonia_Denmark:  Blessings to Reed also and the Society and all the fantastic students from around the world. Nnc.

One Response to "Campfire Chat August 5, 2017"

  1. Selma Posted on October 4, 2017 at 8:48 am

    “Indeed, you have lived in isolation for so long that it represents the entire context of your understanding of yourself—the context for your philosophies, your religions, your theology and your social structures.”
    When reflecting on Paul MA’s questioning over the past weeks, about our isolation, what comes to mind for me is:
    Just as, when the British were in India there were many isolated villages that had no idea, and it made little difference to them, who was in government – life just carried on as normal. So today, for many in the human family, life continues as normal, or so they may think. It’s maybe worth noting that it’s precisely those isolated regions in the world that are perhaps either most hidden or most vulnerable – how will they protect themselves, and will they find the NMG? How will they integrate with the rest of the human family, without pristine areas being devastated? How will they cope with the GWC? What is their fate as the Intervention becomes more aggressive? Will they even know what’s going on, or will they be targeted? So many variables, so many possibilities.

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