Campfire Chat April 29, 2017

 Will_Society:  We invite you to revisit these passages from last week’s chat by the Messenger:

“Many of the Great Waves that will profoundly affect our lives are still far out there like a great Tsunami slowly moving towards us across the ocean. Yet since it takes many decisions and actions and much time to prepare, preparation must start early and be sustained to be effective. We prepare not only for ourselves, but for others and for the whole world.”

“The preparation is about you. Yet the purpose of the preparation is about building relationship and service to others.”

“You are here because others worked to make it possible. Work to make it possible and others will find this.”

“When facing fear, uncertainty or self-doubt, remember you are being reconnected both in Heaven and here on Earth.”

Arthur:  Good day everyone.
Katia_France:  Hello everyone! Good to be with you!
manuel_germany_:):  warm greetings to everyone from rainy spain
May_Norway:  Thank you @Will for sharing!
Alisa_Russia:  Greetings everyone! Glad to be here with you again. It is a beautiful evening in rural Russia, the first warm weather of year
Youngkyo_Korea:  Hello everyone!
nenette_istanbul:  Thank you for the passage of The Messenger @Will
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Will.
Insuk_Korea:  Hello everyone
Raoul_Australia:  Hello everyone!
Will_Society:  Good morning from snowy Boulder. Let us begin our Campfire Chat together with an hourly practice. Please take a minute of stillness to be present, to quiet and focus our minds.
Cameron_Canada:  Greetings from the North
Joyanne_Canada:  Thank you MVS for this comforting wisdom, “When facing fear, uncertainty or self-doubt, remember you are being reconnected both in Heaven and here on Earth.”
Tonia_Denmark:  Hello everyone. Nasi Novare Coram
Danny_Australia:  G’day to everyone, from Australia
Robert_Society:  Welcome everyone to the final Free School Chat of this school session on “The New World”. Next week we will begin the new session – “Knowledge and Spiritual Practice”. For those joining the Chat for the first time, we welcome you and look forward to your presence here and input when you are ready. We will begin shortly with our discussion question for today.
Cameron_Canada:  Thank you Will – good morning to you as well.
Ellen_Society:  Hello to all who are gathering from near and far!
Virgie_near Seattle:  Hello, everyone! My husband is joining the free school and wanted to be here this a.m., too, but he’s having a hard time dragging himself out of bed after being up in the night with our daughter. He might show up eventually, today, or maybe next week.
Kelton_Calif:  Hello to you all! Nasi Novare Coram
LaRaeUK:  Thank you Robert for the quote from Wisdom Vol. I. I had revisited that passage earlier in the week and it really struck me. We have opportunities everyday to give and be of service to others in so many ways. I find little things such as acknowledgement of others, or listening carefully to someone or just showing small tokens of appreciation are all forms of giving, which take so little, but seem to be valued so much by the recepients.
Betty_UK:  Hello everyone
Joyanne_Canada:  Wonderful news Virgie
39847:  Trying to login
Debbie-MI:  That is wonderful news Virgie.
39847:  Me here, trying to change my number to name but can’t figure out my number
Hyeonam_Korea:  Greetings all. NNC
Jos Netherlands:  Hello everyone!
Joyanne_Canada:  Your number should show in the option box under my name
Joyanne_Canada:  but its 39847
Surina_Calif.:  Good Day, Everyone! Wonderful to be here! Nasi Novare Coram.

Will_Society:  As we conclude the “The New World” school session, we’d like to discuss a question to help us all solidify our learning during these two months, bringing it together into something we can take forward in our lives. Our question for discussion is:

“What did you learn during this School session on preparing for The New World that you did not know before and that you feel you must stay with and begin to apply to your life beginning now?”

Kari_H_Finland:  Thank you Will for posting those quotes from the Messenger. Good to join you all.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Yes LaRae,well said, I too find a particular pleasure in recognizing the truth being expressed through others.
Jordan_Montreal:  Hi everyone, Great quote Robert. Just read that the other day
Joyanne_Canada:  @Will, I learnt I must prepare inward more, that I have to prepare my mind to be comfortable with adapting to any changes, challenges that come forth. That I must pay attention to my mind more, and to develop a greater relationship within. That there are a few areas left to prepare and to move with what I know now and wait for greater understandings to come forth
Paul_MA:  Hi Will- great question… A few things were solidified.. That Community preparation will be as vital as individual preparation;; that others must know who you are and where you are. Also, this session really confirmed that I need to transition to a new Trade, a practical one such as Barbering, Farming, Medic Baker….Trades that will be vital to future communities and to others…to serve and to contribute…
Danny_Australia:  @Jordan @Robert Yes agreed that is a great quote
Joyanne_Canada:  This school session was a big heads up to not be complacent in the now, but to keep alert, watchful and present
Cameron_Canada:  For me, preparation in becoming closer to knowledge and following my practice is, has become, more important than the physical survival lists and tasks that used to concern me
Joyanne_Canada:  I also learnt that its important to advocate so others can find this and begin preparing. So that Humanity has a chance to prepare. Many are waiting to find the New Message and time is of importance
Will_Society:  Yes, Cameron, that lesson of the Great Waves strikes me as well. The internal preparation, the preparation to prepare.
Esther_Spain:  Will, I am becoming more aware of the importance of preparation. Without Knowledge, you cannot navigate the times ahead. In that sense I have increased the time and quality of my practices. I want to keep reading about “The Great Waves of Change” because this keeps me awake and with the desire to move forward. I am also working on being more aware of where my mind goes, to exercise more control over my negative thoughts and emotions.
Raehyung_korea:  Hi. Everyone. Nice to be here.
Raoul_Australia:  Thank you Will, I think most things I did know from my previous reading of the NM books, but I think what ‘sunk in’ better was the need for preparation and the fact that a specific New World scenario, with a set of solutions and/or measures, is not something I can imagine now – I just need to be prepared to live life in a way that is different from the past, and have the knowledge to guide me in facing each situation.
LaRaeUK:  So true Joyanne…..we must take this to those who will also feel called.
Kelvin_Boulder:  Thank you Esther. So important.
Paul_MA:  Raoul…i am thinking of preparing not just for a new world, but for a Global Emergency World.
Alisa_Russia:  @Raoul – I am with you on that. This is my experience too now.
Kari_H_Finland:  This New World session reminded me of my tendency to hope for the best in the people and their behavior. I accept more and more that this is not the case. That people will act more foolishly and destructively in the face of the Great Waves of Change.
Amina Russia:  At this moment have started the Deep Evaluation thanks to the school sessions, otherwise i would not do it now or would do it much later in the future.
Joyanne_Canada:  I found listening to other key Revelations was helpful–The Watchtower, Navigating the Difficult times ahead and Seeing what is Coming,. These Revelations seemed to go along with the School Session
LaRaeUK:  They do Joyanne, as does “Building your Ark”
Rosa_UK:  @Will, I realised that going out into the community, seeking out others and connecting with existing groups like a Transition network, get involved in activities, build relationship, build trust and hopefully share the New Message materials with them in preparation for the future.
Joyanne_Canada:  Yes La Rae, that one is very strength building, along with self reliance
Jordan_Montreal:  its by holding that fire that will make all the difference, as I am beginning to experience now
Alisa_Russia:  @Joyanne – I agree. I have been listening to other revelations that go along with this session and they have helped me get a better grasp on things.
Debbie-MI:  The internal preparation and focus on building my Four Pillars has become a strong focus. The more I prepare on the inner level, it will become easier to discern what must be done on the outer level of preparation.
christopher sassano:  I like the message: Live in the present(Knowledge/Presence) and prepare for the future. So studying, reading and practices for present. Future: so many scenarios. One thing I did was look at Venezuela and Greece to see what resources were hard to get after their economies collapse. One thing that came out was that the cities and towns and neighborhoods that worked cooperatively, even formed many co-operatives are faring much better than solo actions.
LaRaeUK:  That strikes me too Rosa. I’ve recently discovered community groups where I live that care about things like the environment.
Josef Austria:  Hello everyone!
Joyanne_Canada:  Thank you Christopher for that insight.
Raoul_Australia:  @Paul, I feel the same way as I think the two go together in our case – New World and Global Emergency
Paul_MA:  C.Sassano–yes i too look at events in other countries as a foreshadowing of what is too come here…
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Replacing old and detrimental habits with new and beneficial ones has stuck with me, and I will continue to apply this.
LaRaeUK:  That is most helpful Christopher….thank you.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @Will I recognise in myself that I avoid the urgency. That it is now not tomorrow that I must prepare.That time is precious.And I must stay with …….The time to prepare is now !
Rosa_UK:  That’s great great LaRae! It does seems to be a natural progression…

Hardev_Australia:  @ Will, Something I did not know before and will now attempt to fill the other parts of the Map.

MVS Society:  Being receptive and following Knowledge is part of the map. Having a keen mind objectively discerning yourself and all the forces around you is another part of the map. Knowing what you feel and feeling what you know is another part of the map. There are more parts to this map. You need to know of them and be using them all to have the complete picture and make real progress. That is why there are many “Steps” in the preparation.(2:19AM)

Cameron_Canada:  @Joyanne – I have almost finished Wisdom from the Grater Community V1. It is quite incredible how what we read or listen to, seems to co-ordinate so harmoniously with where we are in our practice.
LaRaeUK:  Yes Rosa….forming those relationships now, will hopefully lead to a more cooperative future when it is really critical.
Maurice_Canada:  I learnt that my assessment of my environment was much more serious than I thought.Our water quality in the ground is very hard and filled with chemicals that cause health problems. I also learned that there are people who pretend they care but for selfish reasons really don’t because nothing matters as long as they are okay with what they are doing and as long as nothing interferes with them. However if something does occur to them these are the very first people who will be in your face about it.
Joyanne_Canada:  Very True Cameron, it never fails to amaze me that the
Katia_France:  Yes, Chris, so true! I also read some articles on these communities in Greece and it seems like to them the collapse was something of an opportunity, at least in terms of building relationships and a sense of community and joint effort. That really struck me.
Alisa_Russia:  Still the present is important to me, living in the here and now, and embracing life as it is today. Not missing out on the glory of each new day.
Jansett_Boulder:  Relationship has taken on a whole new coloration for me. Recognizing the pull toward shared identity and the profound impulse to serve whatever/whoever is within my sphere of awareness. Learning to prepare…for everyone. Learning to serve…everyone. The pull toward the myriad lures of separation has weakened considerably. I feel the time has come to truly/really/honestly learn what “unity” means on all levels. The time for separate, special little cliques is over. We are all in this together.
Joyanne_Canada:  when I open my mp3 player to choose one, there is always another one that pops up as a Must Hear, and is much more revelant to what I need
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you, Marshall.
Gina_Boulder:  I had to rethink what I have told myself about my work/career pillar that went something like, “This is all you can do.” The discomfort I experienced during this session had me take another look. The reality of my life and family actually calls, “There is more that must be done.” (within the work pillar) The ability to be flexible and adaptable, not defined- is coming to the forefront and concrete, practical steps are revealing themselves.
Jennie_The Netherlands:  After being in Afrika for the third time, I’ve experienced the future world after the GWC. People don’t have enough food, water shortages, floodings in houses that you can’t even call houses. Is heartbreaking and at the same time strength building. What moved me the most is that people share everything, even if they don’t have enough for themselves.
LaRaeUK:  Thank you for reminding me of that quote Hardev….
Raoul_Australia:  @Hardev, thanks for the reminder from MVS, such a useful set of tips!
Val_Westport:  I am finding that by being who I am and letting the world be what it is, I am more free to manifest the changes that empower myself and those around me.
Danny_Australia:  @Hardev I would say the same, and with knowing all the parts of the map we must also learn to discover our own weaknesses, so that we may need to find a part of the map which provides a remedy to that particular area.
Alison_Boulder:  I felt this session invited me to look at the reasons why I have not prepared, meaning the ambivalence I block my progress with. What are the reasons I give for avoidance? None are through Knowledge.
Kristina_Boulder:  @Will. I find that this school session helped us to wake up. As most of us are not directly affected by the Great Waves, at least not to the large degree, so focusing on world’s changes as a part of the session wakes us up in a way and forces us to pay attention. It also reminds us that we need to start the preparation early, reinforces importance of balanced 4 Pillars.
Jordan_Montreal:  yes Jansett, thank you for saying that
Alisa_Russia:  @Val – very well said! That is my experience too.
LaRaeUK:  Amen Jansett!!
Paul_MA:  Hi Jennie- thanks for the deep insights… So many communities in the US are not ready for self-sufficiency; it is vital to find a community with the potential to be self sufficient, then to help them move forward to prepare.
christopher sassano:  One thing my environmental neighbor and I did was sponsor some neighborhood meetings on how global warming would affect us and our neighborhood. After all, while an intentional community would be nice, you are in an unintentional community – your local neighborhood. Meet them. Learn their names! At our meetings I set out some copies of Great Waves of Change and some printed Revelations like Signs of the World.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Yes Jansett, well said!
Hardev_Australia:  @Raoul, Danny, a great tool/structure to use in the Way of Knowledge.
Virpi_Finland:  From this session these stay with me now (paraphrasing): You have to build your ark when it is not raining. You may have to turn left when everyone else is turning right. You must be prepared to act dramatically, even if nobody else is responding or even caring. Preparing for action. Not just preparing, but preparing for action. Also from step 118: “There is no need to avoid the world because the world cannot dominate you when you are with Knowledge.”
LaRaeUK:  That is beautiful Jennie…..
Paul_MA:  christopher–keep planting the seeds.!!
Arthur:  @Kari I have the opposite problem where I’ve started to see worst in others, as a result I’ve become increasingly hostile against the outside world.
nenette_istanbul:  quote:The new world can wake you up, but it can also destroy you. That is why you must gain access to the deeper intelligence within you, the power and the presence of Knowledge that God has given you to navigate this new world and to bring forth your true gifts that still remain hidden within you and others.” … with the guidance of the School session and together with the Students of Knowledge studying together the New Revelation, Respond honestly…educate our self and tell others, educate children, family and friends, provide them The Steps to Knowledge…
Selma London:  That’s brave, Christopher, to display copies of GWC & Revelations at community meetings – I might do the same!
Jangsun_Korea:  @Jennie, thank you for sharing your experience.
Sang Hyun_CA_Korea:  Thank you, @christopher sassano(8:21am). I wish to try that. It will be one of my to do list.
Raoul_Australia:  What has really ‘hit’ me recently is that if we are not prepared, Knowledge cannot give us our greater work and it cannot give us answers for things that we are not ready to act upon, so it is key to not waste our time with information, people and activities that are taking us away from Knowledge.
justin-calif-!:  living in an Earthquake area has advantages- at least people acknowlege the possibility of a disaster and the need to prepare for it-
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Hardev for the reminding from “Being receptive and following Knowledge is part of the map. Having a keen mind objectively discerning yourself ~”
Betty_UK:  @Will, the ability to discern ones true nature – that was something new to me. Not sure how to, but I think it starts with recognizing what you tell to yourself.
MVS Society:  The watchtower is always important, scanning the horizon objectively and realizing the difference between small waves and great waves of change. We have been given the eyes to see and the ears to hear. Take your practice of seeing and hearing out into the world. The Inner and outer preparation go together always.
Alisa_Russia:  @Raoul – so true. If we are not prepared and open to Knowledge, we cannot do what we came to do. Being connected to Knowledge is the crux of the matter.
Cameron_Canada:  @Val – being in the world without judgement, or at least moving in that direction, is so freeing. Life becomes so much more enjoyable and opens one to a completely different experience and quality of life.
Alexandra-NL:  I am becoming more aware of my expectations regarding others and their lack of awareness and preparation when it comes to the GW… so instead of anger and resentment I am learning to funnel that energy in my own preparation.
Rosa_UK:  Thank you Jansett for how you expressed about Relationship and Unity…and learning to serve everyone…it reminds me of the Spiritual families joining together, forming a river back to the ocean…
Joyanne_Canada:  I found the link Maureen gave in last weeks Chat was helpful to see how prepared I was … I realized I was more prepared and yet I realized that this information might be used by me to bring attention to others in my community that feel the need to prepare..Thank you Maureen, http://www.boulderoem….-kit/
Inhee_Korea:  @Gina Thank you “The ability to be flexible and adaptable, not defined- is coming to the forefront and concrete, practical steps are revealing themselves.”
LaRaeUK:  So true Raoul. I find myself withdrawing from relationships that are not purposeful.
Selma London:  Part of the problem & the solution for me, was losing some of my own past self-discipline, some of it long before the NMG, and some as I’ve gone along, with periods of in-between just allowing and discovering, before new sets of behaviours, protection and boundaries can be established, and this is clearly ongoing.
This has corresponded to outside conditions and circumstances, which over the years and decades have altered to the extent that my body’s interaction and response to these environments has had to adapt. A previous sense of being clear & receptive has had to be shielded, physically and mentally. It is not so easy to walk around in a state of innocent awareness any more, as everything is becoming so contaminated.
Raoul_Australia:  @Alisa, yes, it really is…must create that capacity
Val_Westport:  Yes, Cameron, and as I watch myself and experience new freedoms, I must be vigilant for old patterns and complacency; the Work is ongoing! As is said, one learns to love the climb…
Danny_Australia:  Thank you Marshall
Lynn, CO:  @Karl stay in observance as you go through this process. Your anger may be from wanting all to wake up and see before it is to late. It must start from you, then me, then…
Raoul_Australia:  @Christopher, i feel that too “you are in an unintentional community – your local neighborhood”, we may have to work just with them in the future
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @ Jansett beautiful Unity
Arthur:  @Lynn I presume that message was meant for me.
Joyanne_Canada:  thank you Jansette, very moving insights and it is inspiring me
Lynn, CO:  ops @ Arthur: stay in observance as you go through this process. Your anger may be from wanting all to wake up and see before it is to late. It must start from you, then me, then…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur You can pretend to be anyone you want to try to be. You can give yourself any name. You can establish yourself in any role. You can play the role of the good person or the bad person. But within you, there is Knowledge, waiting to be discovered.
Kari_H_Finland:  @Arthur, anger comes from the failure to apply Knowledge
Sang Hyun_CA_Korea:  @Selma, I agree to “It is not so easy to walk around in a state of innocent awareness any more, as everything is becoming so contaminated.”. It reminds me of what MVS said in one of the Revelations. (Paraphrasing) “When you are out in the world, always watch your surroundings, like animals do all the time.”
nenette_istanbul:  Wow all beautiful share
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur No matter how far you go in trying to establish your isolation, in trying to be successful in Separation and in trying to make Separation work, you are still connected to God through Knowledge, this deeper mind within you. You cannot escape from it. You cannot divorce yourself from it. You can deny it. You can cover its light with many covers and live in darkness, but you cannot eliminate it. It represents your purpose for being in the world, your connection to God and your redemption.
The question is: How long will it take for you to come to desire it and to realize that without it, you cannot be successful, you cannot fulfill yourself, and you cannot make a real contribution to the world, which is your real intention for being here? Without it, you cannot fulfill the need of your soul. Without it, you cannot have peace and integrity within yourself. Without it, you cannot have a successful relationship with yourself, or with other people or even with the whole world.
Rudy_Boulder:  Marshall has often stated that Noah did not build the Ark when it was raining….what does that tell me? Honestly, I do not know what the Great Waves will look like here (USA) in the immediate future, but what Will states is very real to me, “the preparation to prepare.” Rosa, you took the words out of my mind, building solid and meaningful relationships, but also building much needed trust. For me, it is building a network of many small things, and not going for the one big thing. The preparation may seem difficult or even unnecessary, but what I like to apply to my daily routine is one of Patricia’s line, “You do it anyway.” Yes, there will be days of uncertainty, despair, the body will be tired and all of that stuff, but to use one of my favorite slogans, “Just Do It” . This is what I must apply, as I move forward into the uncertainty of the future.
Raoul_Australia:  @LaRae, I used to think it wasn’t fair to withdraw from relationships that are not purposeful, but now I see how it is part of life
Cameron_Canada:  @Val – yes, one has to be ever watchful, not to allow ones self to be swayed back to old habits by the people around us, and sometimes our selves.
Danny_Australia:  @Jansett Thank you for that, a great reminder of the power of unity, and how we can only do this if we work together.
Maurice_Canada:  @ Selma- I can relate to that as I got involved in selling water filtration systems and then suddenly you become more aware of the diffeent kinds of contamination there is and sometimes it isn’t environmental it becomes spiritual and emotional too
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Marshall “The watchtower is always important,~”
Tonia_Denmark:  I learned that it is not possible to explain others why I choose one thing over another. I have learned that it matters how many others I involve in taking an action towards something and that every energy I invest in others either cost them something or cost me something. I have learned that signs are pieces of patterns, that either work beneficially or the opposite. Patterns are like steps to new platforms where I can stand, look from and pause…before moving on.
Will_Society:  I’m reminded that the Great Waves teachings are not just about seeing the change and surviving it, but that we were sent here to serve in the circumstances of today and tomorrow. Our preparation is not simply to survive, but to contribute something from beyond this universe.
LaRaeUK:  Yes Rudy…small steps, daily steps…internal steps, external steps, awareness, relationships.
Jeanne_Boulder:  @ Raoul, withdraw from relationships that are not purposeful, is so important in my moving up this mountain, you cannot bring a lot of baggage with you, this journey is to difficult to bring others with you.
Raehyung_korea:  @rayhobbs Thank you
Debbie-MI:  @Rudy-I am really resonating with what you said.
Jennie_The Netherlands:  I would like to share another experience which is also giving much hope for the future. If people don’t have anything, they only have themselves to give. Relationships becoming very important. They are more living with Knowledge. With no internet acces, no money for food (or books). The need for funding printed books and sharing the New Message of God on a personal level becomes therefore very important at this time.
christopher sassano:  I have made up a 4 pack of Revelations, printed and stapled, The Deeper Current of your Life, Signs of the World, Still your Mind and Deeper Recognition in Relationships, and Watchtower and hand them out. It is hard to tell how effective this is but people regularly come back and say how those Revelations changed their lives but I don’t seem them over at the Sanctuary. It seems to be a case of Seeing, some Knowing and little Action!
MVS Society:  The challenge is finding the Center Line, the middle ground between hope and fear, between obsession and avoidance, between compulsion and listlessness. Knowledge is the Center Line. Practice returning to the Center Line. Inner Listening, Stillness, objectivity with yourself and others, GC and Great Waves awareness will bring you there.
LaRaeUK:  Yes Raoul. I’ve found over the years relationships may only serve us for a short time, then it is time to let it go. I’ve had it happen a great deal since discovering TNM and can now release them with love. I am no longer who I was, nor are they.
Raoul_Australia:  @Jeanne, true, and we will see many ‘broken down on the side of the road’ as many Revelations mention, but we can’t stop.
Jos Netherlands:  Thank you Marshall
James_Boulder:  “The Inner and outer preparation go together always.”
This is striking. I have found when one is being worked on out of balance with the other the other is stalled, no matter how hard I work . When they both are being attended to, in balance, there is this flow, an ease (though not easy) the outer opens to reveal endless communion relating to the inner journey and the inner journey is reflected in the way the outer interacts with me… this balance, relationship, (union?) of the inner and the outer is such a profound Mystery to me!
MarkBerger:  @Raoul – Thanks for this: “What has really ‘hit’ me recently is that if we are not prepared, Knowledge cannot give us our greater work.” This is what I got, too. If the 4 pillars are not stable and strong, my mind will be swirling during rocky times and I won’t be able to hear the direction and guidance of Knowledge to follow that can lead me to greater work and service.
Virgie_near Seattle:  Wow, @Jennie “If people don’t have anything, they only have themselves to give.” Thank you for that gem.
Keiko_Ita:  Hi everyone.
Katia_France:  Hello Keiko!
Darlene_Society:  There are no casual decisions anymore, there never were. Decisions, every decision, daily, short term, long term. I am more and more conscious of what is driving each decision I make and checking each out with Knowledge – does this feel correct? The power of each decision is a practice that I am becoming more and more conscious of. I just learned from Maureen a neat trick: the NM website search tool…type in “making decisions” for more inspiration. “The future and the outcome are in the hands of every person because whatever happens will be the result of individuals making decisions.” The Race to Save…ation
Kari_H_Finland:  Thank you Rudy, “Just do it” spoke to me powerfully. This is how I too feel. Uncertainty where all this in my life will lead to but still I just do it because I feel that I must.
Jos Netherlands:  Good evening Keiko
Angel_PA_US:  Thank you, James, resonating.
Alexandra-NL:  Yes Will. For me this means becoming more aware of my accountability towards my spiritual family and all of Creation. I feel the pressure building up…
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you, Marshall.
Raoul_Australia:  Thanks Mark, that’s really it, the ‘swirly’ mind just can’t do it
nenette_istanbul:  This is the great blessing to all Students of The New Message …The Society, the school session itself builds unity to all of us students of Knowledge. We are here, learning, preparing, sharing and most of all we have the Messenger, guiding all of us, the true relationship is here and we must be honest to study the whole Revelation and educate others…. I must do this.
Joyanne_Canada:  thank you Darlene and MVS
LaRaeUK:  I found this very helpful from Wisdom Vol I “Many of you are experiencing the events to come in your life now because your life is in preparation so that you may be a contributor in times to come. You are undergoing planetary change with yourself individually, as if you were being forced ahead rapidly. You must proceed. You cannot find another comfortable place to lie down. You must keep moving forward.”
Joyanne_Canada:  resonating @James , thank you
Arthur:  @rayhobbs My bitterness comes from being held back, I am being told to wait but the world has nothing “fun” to offer me in the meanwhile. Yea yea, “you must prepare” but where I shine is on the field.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur: You as an individual cannot combat this without risking falling under its persuasions and its inducements. To try to do this is to commit yourself to being in opposition to others. It places you and pits you against others fundamentally, even from the outset. Now you must fight others to do and to create what you think is right.
While it is fine to oppose others for a good cause, in this circumstance, it changes your intentions. It changes your motivations because you are governed by fear—the fear of failure, the fear of not achieving what you want to achieve, the fear of thinking that if you are not successful, the opposing forces will be supreme. Fear gives rise to anger. Anger gives rise to hatred. Hatred gives rise to violence. And violence gives rise to further violence.
Raoul_Australia:  @Darlene, yes, the NM Search has been so useful to me!
Patricia_Society:  @Shrimayi Netherlands: “I recognize in myself that I avoid the urgency…” If we look at ourselves and our lives so far, many of us by nature have tended to “pause or plunge”. The question is, to what degree is our tendency to “pause or plunge” ever reviewed with Knowledge? The Voice of Revelation speaking the teaching “Seeing, Knowing and Taking Action” provides us the wisest advice in this regard, be we natively a “Pauser” or a “Plunger”. In many instances, one or the other or both tendencies are needed. The question though is whether our native tendencies to “pause or plunge” have been elevated to a level of review, by Knowledge? Sometimes there is time to think to do this. Sometimes there is no time to formally do this. Wise action. Wise restraint. I have seen this elegantly demonstrated by people who function, with a great well of hard earned experience behind them, in emergency response work…A lot of Seeing, Knowing and Taking Action demonstrated in precarious…
Patricia_Society:  … situations…..Gratitude to them for their demonstration, competence and wisdom in times of extreme need….the times that are here and that are to come….Many more people who can capably and wisely pause and plunge, will be needed…..
Danny_Australia:  @MVS I think the Buddha said that if people wish to return to Knowledge then they must take the ‘middle way’
Betty_UK:  Thank you Marshall
Jordan_Montreal:  LaRea, yes, thank you for saying that
Youngkyo_Korea:  Thank you Marshall.
LaRaeUK:  Thank you Darlene….that is most helpful.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur Fear disassociates; love joins. Both of these forces lead you to specific engagements with certain people but for different purposes and with entirely different results. Those who are serving the Forces of Dissonance are in relationship and are bonded to other individuals for this purpose. This is true because nothing, either real or imagined, can be done without relationship. You must seek others to help you, for what you seek to do cannot be done alone. Here the reality of both Knowledge and the Forces of Dissonance find expression through relationships. That is why relationships are so important, for they are the medium of expression for both contribution and destruction in the world
Debbie Plano:  Thank you MVS. This session was the perfect time as we in the US see a divided country with a new president, instability, possible military action or war coming, eroding integrity within our society and a total ignoring that climate change even exists. This has been a time when I must constantly be aware of managing my mind, find the center and come back to knowledge as all kinds of anger and emotions arise. It continues to be a great time of learning and remembering to be in the watchtower.
Ken_Oklahoma:  This session is a powerful reminder to be present and aware of what is going on my community, in my country, in the world and not being drawn into things that I cannot control or contribute. I must become stronger with Knowledge and discover each day where I am needed, where I must give, where I must take action and contribute. I am so powerfully reminded that I am not prepared for the GWC.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur It is like God has hooked you and you are a fish and it takes a long time to reel you in because you are so far out there, you are so resistant, and you are fighting and you are struggling and God is reeling you in but you are fighting you are struggling you are trying to go somewhere else and you are over committed to a life that isn’t really your real life.
Javier S. Fl:  Thank you Marshall, that seems to be my greatest struggle. Staying within that Center Line or close enough within it’s boundaries.
nenette_istanbul:  Thank you for that @Darlene …
ellenrose- boulder:  One thing thats been a focus for me out of this session is water. I’ve been looking at water. not so much information about water, just looking at the actual water. when i water my plants the water sits on top of the soil longer now before absorbing. I dont know what it means but I’m looking.
Alexandra-NL:  Yes Nanette, I feel that assisting to these gatherings and being part of a Greater learning community are a vital part of my preparation…
Jeanne_Boulder:  Ellenrose I like that idea
Jos Netherlands:  Thank you Patricia, that makes sense.
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Darlene for “Decisions, every decision, daily, short term, long term. I am more and more conscious of what is driving each decision ~”
Raoul_Australia:  @LaRae “I am no longer who I was, nor are they.” …and, I find, life will never be the same as before finding the NM
Alison_Boulder:  To all those speaking about relationship building, this has shone itself to me, too. Isolation is not just a person living up in the mountains alone. It is also an epidemic of a busy life where we are afraid of one another. It simply inspires me to be present to people in all situations when I am called to do so. And regarding the future, why would I want to have to untangle myself from a set up complicated relationships when survival is on the line? Let alone the future, how could I give myself to my preparation if I am misaligned? I look around and am grateful for who I am with, and must remember to not start up new “complications.”
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur You, on your own, cannot combat evil. If you tried to combat it, it would seduce you. You will become more like it. It will turn you from being a peaceful advocate into being a warrior yourself. You will find yourself taking up arms against others whom you consider to be governed by evil.
You will become like them because evil loves the attention. It thrives off of human engagement. It is empowered by those who follow it and by those who are opposed to it. For without human allegiance and human attention, evil has nowhere to attach itself. Those who are committed to it need allegiance and need engagement from others.
Joyanne_Canada:  @Ellen, I too have had my attention drawn to water, how precious it is, how much I am moved within when I turn on the tap, how extremely important it is too all life.
58161:  Alison- Technology and Technical Devices can also drive isolation….or community..-Paul/MA
Betty_UK:  Thank you Patricia
Val_Westport:  A spring-maddened robin is throwing himself against my window. I am reminded to watch my actions, that they not be futile, like his.
MVS Society:  Living in the moment and preparing for the future is a delicate balancing act, one always adjusting for the other. “Do not live only for the moment, for that is a fool’s paradise. You must prepare for the future, or you will be a victim of the future. If you could really see what is coming, you would understand perfectly what We are telling you here today.”
THE ONE BOOK: The New World: Being Centered in a Crashing World.
Danny_Australia:  @Darlene I feel that way also, where there are so many opportunities for decisions in every day. We are living in such a high paced environment nowadays where there are many decisions being made very frequently in a short span of time. The decisions we make will then determine which channels we choose to go through and which ones we do not go through. I am finding it important to be in a state of inner listening so that I can always be ready to ‘catch myself’ in between decisions, it is that point of transition that I feel is of critical importance.
Adria:  @Alison, thank you : being present to people, all the time.
58161:  MVS- thank you… what is also unsettling was a comment from the teachings.-paraphrasing….”we have not told you everything that is coming.”-Paul/MA
nenette_istanbul:  Thank you @Marshall @Patricia.
Richmond_UK:  @Alison, good point, it’s a lot easier to stay out of a misaligned relationship than to have to get out.
LaRaeUK:  I understand that Ellenrose. I look at and think about water far more frequently now. I look at my bathwater and wonderful if I can reuse it. I think about water filtration. How to save it.
Cameron_Canada:  I have been thinking about my role as a teacher and how to manage not-judgement with certain expectations. I have come to feel that this can be addressed by using compassion in stead of punishment, and this center line, or ballance idea, will help my ability to make wise decisions. Thank you MVS
Betty_UK:  Thank you Darlene
Danny_Australia:  Thank you Alison that is so well said, I am totally with you on that one
justin-calif-!:  concerning water: Fluoride is a poison- avoid it if you can!!!
Ginny_Ohio:  I’m finding my choices have greater consequences than I considered before. Humbleness in the face of errors, some too great to overcome. Letting people down, not understanding the gravity of the situation. Seeing the effects of poor decisions of ignoring the signs in the world and from within. Conversely, finding the courage to do what is needed from where I am. Clarity and objectivity as Marshall has indicated of highest importance. Losing connection to Knowledge and the opportunity for the correction and contribution. Recognizing Knowledge within me and others and being open to real change. Connecting that which is great to that which is small (and I am very small) and trusting the bond. Choosing Knowledge over everything else. Getting to a point of ‘yes’ or ‘no’. Real self-honesty. Am I doing what I know I must do? And asking this every day, not just occasionally. And realizing the consequences of not doing that which is waiting for me. Thanks Mark and Raoul and Marshall
Lin_Maryland:  Danny, there is great wisdom in “middle” way, being moderate, balanced approach, etc. I start to see that not only within oneself, but also within a community, that people balance each other, “humble each other” as mentioned in Living the Way of Knowledge.
christopher sassano:  Thank you Marshal for the Center Line advice.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Yes James when you just start doing because you feel you must then the inner feeling is manifesting and growing and getting clear while doing and that is flow.
Darlene_Society:  @Danny ” I am finding it important to be in a state of inner listening so that I can always be ready to ‘catch myself’ in between decisions, it is that point of transition that I feel is of critical importance.” Catching oneself, yes, awareness in the moment is key.
Jeanne_Boulder:  @Richmond this is so true I have experience trying to get out not pleasant.
Sally_Boulder:  For an exercise in my school (the academic kind) we do something called a “simulation lab” where we are given a patient and data and formalize a care plan. This was the outer preparation as I saw it, and okay fine, that was done and I thought I had an idea about how to participate. The idea of the simulation is to essentially put you in a real life situation. Once I got in there and my patient started “seizing” while the mother was yelling “help, she’s turning blue!”, my mind just froze. As if all the outer preparation fell out of my mind. It shed light on the importance of inner preparation. Something as small as taking a moment to gather oneself prior to doing anything new and challenging can make a huge difference. The preparation must be whole, inside and outside of us, to the best of our ability.
Alexandra-NL:  Alison, I have been contemplating this lately… isolation versus no isolation… I have always preferred solitude to being in a crowd but I can not afford to isolate myself now… how can I help others in the future If I don ´t learn to relate to them now?
James_Boulder:  @Danny, so true. So many decisions to make in this high paced environment. The pace induces us to make them unconsciously, out of habit. This reminds me of the importance of slowing down and as you said, inner listening.
nenette_istanbul:  thanks @justin-calif..
Rosa_UK:  Yes Rudi, I too need to apply “Just do it” and get over my fear of failure…
Jangsun_Korea:  @Alison, thank you for your insight.
Arthur:  You got it wrong hobbs, I feel like you are not really listening. I am not “out there” I have no quarrel with the outside world and no I am not afraid; it is this waiting that is eating me up. I have to get out there and apply myself or I will find no satisfaction.
Selma London:  Yes, Marshall, I see many living subsistence lifestyles who’ve never really had to adapt & change in their lifetimes, finding it difficult to cope with the changes already occurring (eg loss of land to the sea in the South Pacific) let alone what’s to come – they’ll be in shock for quite some time.
manuel_germany_:):  @rayhobbs, thank you. so much wisdom regarding giving attention and thus maintaining alive those dark forces…
Jansett_Boulder:  @Sally, wow, profound insight/experience there. Thank you!
LaRaeUK:  One thing this Revelation pointed out to me, was how very much I need to deepen my relationships with my fellow NM students, both generally and with those here in the UK. I feel our relationships are of critical importance. Sharing ideas. Being present for one another. I feel these will come to matter more and more as the Great Waves approach.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @ Arthur Your life in the world is your life here now, and you must give yourself to this. Yet the more you are aware of your eternal life, the more you will allow it to express itself in the world through you. Then you will understand the nature of your real power. Then you will see that the opposition to Knowledge is only a pathetic form of self-punishment.
Katia_France:  Thank you so much for that, Jennie (5:33PM) ! Yes! So true that children growing up in rough conditions with no luxuries have somewhat of an advantage over those who are growing up oblivious to the needs of the world. A dear friend of mine from college, Joyce from Hong Kong, became a doctor and married a Gabonese doctor. Both are profoundly devout Christians, and if anyone is driven by Knowledge, I should say the pair of them are. In 2012 they set up the first ever eye clinic in the Congo and are doing amazing work there. Their charitable organisation is called New Sight Congo ( Anyway, Joyce has been homeschooling their three wonderful children ever since and because New Sight is growing, she would like to find a teacher for her children so she can devote more time to the clinic, but that is proving fantastically hard. Here’s the ad if anyone might know of anyone who might be interested ( Joyce sometimes has pangs of…
Katia_France:  … mother’s guilt at having her children grow up in an area that is so deprived and which seems to have so few opportunities. However, I think it’s a real gift. The children are well, strong, self-sufficient, so intimately aware of the problems of the world and yet brought up by two people brimming with love, direction and purpose. They are blessed! When the Great Waves really hit, they will be better off than children of more privileged backgrounds, because they are already so strong within.
Inhee_Korea:  @Alison I agree “how could I give myself to my preparation if I am misaligned? I look around and am grateful for who I am with, and must remember to not start up new “complications.”
Jennie_The Netherlands:  @LaRaeUK: I’ve experienced relationships will come to you when it is needed when you are on your mission. It is a mystery and a blessing.
Joyanne_Canada:  @Arthur, for me the waiting is wonderful, it teaches me patience and to wait to know where to apply myself beyond my preferences. Also I look to the demonstration of the Messenger, Patricia, Reed and the Society. So many years of waiting to know what to do with this great transmissions of Revelations. Oh my much waiting did they have to do before they were moved in any one direction. Their demonstrations inspire me that I too can wait to know where and when to apply myself. Their demonstration of waiting is humbling and assists me in my learning.
Kari_H_Finland:  @Sally thank you for sharing your learning in inner preparation. This I have been contemplating too. “Am I mentally ready to face the events in the New World?”
Amina Russia:  #Alexandra-NL, its a good point, i was thinking about it too,,,,,i am thinking it might be good to have your own space or times of isolation not to lose your focus, and at the same time try to relate to others consciously when you are surrounded by people already by will or not by will
Virpi_Finland:  Ellen and Joyanne, about water: Just today I looked at a creek nearby when I was on a walk. I thought: some day people will fight over who has possession of that clear, pure water, because then it has become more valuable than gold.
Patricia_Society:  @Danny 9:19 “knowing all the parts of the map, we must also learn to discover our own weaknesses..” And @Alison re our “ambivalences”, looking at both our weaknesses and our ambivalences when they are evident, afford us an opportunity to pull the curtain aside to see what’s there and as such engage in the all important “Self Knowledge” work, aka (also know as) “Doing the work…” There’s development at the level of Knowing/Knowledge and the development involving other side of the coin, Self Knowing/Self Knowledge…” There is power and clear vision in the statement, “I know myself well enough to know that___________.”
Tonia_Denmark:  I believe that, Marshall. I am learning among many things that if I do not see the signs and hear the warnings, I have walked too far away from Knowledge. The path is going left and right, but sometimes it begins to move more straight and that’s when things begin to feel right. When purpose and fulfilling are in sight. The how to do it so to speak.
Keiko_Ita:  @Katia, Hi, how are you? sorry I have read now….
Joyanne_Canada:  @Virip very true,
Darlene_Society:  @Sally, powerful awareness teaching, humbling but so key.
Danny_Australia:  Thank you Patricia
christopher sassano:  I mentioned at the last Encampment that I would put together my booklet on Preparing for Great Waves. I do believe that it is available for free on the Society;s Great Waves of Change website, which is a wonderful site to be part of. Articles are posted on the environmental issues but then seen through the eyes of Knowledge.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Thank you Patricia I will explore this tendency pause or plunge for now I feel I can have both.And will read Seeing knowing and taking action again.
Tonia_Denmark:  I hope to learn more about the mapping of the mind in the future. 😊
Jennie_The Netherlands:  @Katia: that is so wonderful, thank you for sharing!
MVS Society:  Living is an affluent society, I make sure that I am being affected by the Great Waves as I observe them happening all over the world. This is part of my practice. Holding to the Center Line observing these things is also part of my practice. Knowledge has my eyes turned to the world. I am a world Messenger. I cannot take refuge in myself alone.
LaRaeUK:  Yes Jennie…..I am learning to trust The Mystery.
Jordan_Montreal:  astrology can be a helpful tool in self knowledge
Will_Society:  Oh yes, Patricia. Thank you for shining a light on that. Mission and world and the profound Mystery can seem so much more compelling, but we have to face the personal work must be done.
Selma London:  Oh, Christopher, I was wondering what happened to that booklet you were going to send!
Arthur:  @Joyanne I’ve waited my whole life and I feel as if my blade do not see soon battle it will become dull.
Amina Russia:  Thank you, Marshall
Angel_PA_US:  Radical self honesty, as difficult as it is, has helped me to let go of that which no longer serves or supports and helps keep me closer to the center line. Asking the inner questions that challenge the presumptions and assumptions that are not appropriate any more. This feels like opening a window for Knowledge to come in and be heard.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur To begin to follow Knowledge, you must realize there is a need for it and feel you are worthy of it. This in itself is a step towards recognition and an important step away from self-hatred. Merely changing your thoughts about yourself will not resolve the dilemma because that does not provide for your true needs. Following something within yourself that is not based upon your judgments takes you away from them altogether. Without your attention and reaffirmation, they simply begin to dissolve.
LaRaeUK:  That is powerful MVS….thank you.
Jeanne_Boulder:  Thanks MVS Holding to the Center Line observing these things is also part of my practice. Knowledge has my eyes turned to the world. I am a world Messenger. I cannot take refuge in myself alone.(9:57AM)
Selma London:  Yes, Marshall, we must be ready for the world & all its needs
Alison_Boulder:  “I make sure that I am being affected” is the key phrase to me from MVS, right there. Going to those places mentally.
Jos Netherlands:  Yes Marshall. That means reading the News. So now and then at least?
Tonia_Denmark:  Wow amazing. Thank you, Marshall.
LaRaeUK:  Thank you for that effort Christopher!
Tonia_Denmark:  I hear you on that, Alison.
Robert_Society:  Thank you all for your insightful contributions to the Chat today. We have reached another hourly. Let’s share in this practice of stillness and awareness together.
Joyanne_Canada:  @Arthur: , yes I understand the impatience of waiting, but I look upon it as I need more practice preparation so that when I am called my blade is as sharp as it can be,, in the interim of waiting we work on our tools…keep developing our skill with them, so when they are called upon we are ready to be utilized as vehicles of knowledge.
Debbie-MI:  Thank you Marshall.
LaRaeUK:  Oh yes Patricia…that self awareness is vital, if painful at times.
Val_Westport:  The fastest route to solving a dilemma is being willing to find the way out.
Raehyung_korea:  Thank you to Marshall & all
Joyanne_Canada:  @Arthur, the waiting times gives us time to prepare, it is precious for we are not yet ready to take on our true purpose in service, so for me the waiting is actually a blessing for it gives me time to do the inner work
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Why is forgiveness such a relief? Because it lets your mind open and relax. Why is forgiveness so difficult to accomplish? Because you are afraid to go beyond your mind. You would rather stay miserable with little ideas and chew on them, like hard little candies, …..
nenette_istanbul:  @MVS …THANK YOU .
Joyanne_Canada:  @Aruthur, I understand the inner feelings of waiting, of feeling the pressure of waiting,


KNOWLEDGE AND SPIRITUAL PRACTICE, the May-April 2017 Session of The Free School. Watch for email, coming soon, containing new Study Plan, Core Revelation: ‘Deepening Your Spiritual Practice,’ and Additional Resources.
>A perfect and beautiful transition from our study of preparing for the Great Waves, and sharing how absolutely critical Knowledge and spiritual practice is in in that preparation.

CAMPFIRE CHAT TRANSCRIPTS can be found here: http://www.newmessage….ripts
Today’s Chat transcript will be posted at the end of our discussion.

THE STEPS VIGIL, May 26 – June 14, 2017.
The Steps Vigil is a worldwide commemorative broadcast event honoring the 20-day period in which Steps to Knowledge was received by the Messenger in 1989.
For more information: https://www.newmessage…vents

Jangsun_Korea:  Thank you Marshall. “I cannot take refuge in myself alone.” We must follow what you do.
Jeanne_Boulder:  Nasi Novare Coram, thanks to all for your wisdom, we are blessed!
Carol_Society:  **May-June 2017 Session
rayhobbs_Colorado:  We teach people to recognize their Knowledge, to begin to use it and to begin the path of Knowledge according to the Ancient Teaching. Immediately people are faced with a few obstacles. Primary amongst these obstacles is their own self-doubt, which reflects their self-hatred. Can you trust something inside yourself when your mind has fooled you so many times, when so many times you found out you were wrong when you thought you were right, when you did such stupid things so many times? Can you trust something inside yourself that you cannot define and that you rarely experience? Can you do this? (Forgiveness)
Kari_H_Finland:  Thank you Messenger, I was just thinking how am I preparing myself to the events of the Great Waves of Change when living in a stable country. I have been observing the GWC events in other countries and how people behave in the face of them.
Robert_Society:  Thank you all for being here today and giving yourself to learning, supporting and growing with the New Message. Your presence, courage and strength are important for the New Message, its Messenger, and the world you have come here to serve. Through each of us and many others yet to come, the great Blessing from beyond can flow into the world. Nasi Novare Coram
May_Norway:  Thank you to you all for your valuable sharing and Naci Novare Coram
Mathieu_France:  Thank you. Nasi Novare Coram
Joe_UK:  Thank you all for your contribution and Presence here today. I was reminded that I must ensure my ship is not leaking before I can help others. Nasi Novare Coram
Hyeonam_Korea:  Thank you all. NNC
Will_Society:  This has been a thoughtful, interesting, inspiring conversation. Thank you all for your contribution and presence.
christopher sassano:  Thank you. Nasi Novare Coram
Richmond_UK:  Thank you everyone. Nasi Novare Coram.
LaRaeUK:  Thank you Robert and Will…..
Kahala_Oregon:  Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram.
Arthur:  @Joyanne Yea what can you do.
Rudy_Boulder:  Thank you, Robert and Will.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Ken_Oklahoma Discernment and Discretion ….
Ellen_Society:  Thank you to everyone participating today.
Susan_Malaysia:  Thank you, MVS, and everyone..NNC
Tyyne Society:  Thank you Will and Robert for hosting this chat. Thank you everyone for your participation and preparation.
Debbie Plano:  @Christopher, what area of the site is it found ? I can’t seem to find it.
Jordan_Montreal:  Thank you everyone. Hold that fire
justin-calif-!:  thanx to all for your wisdom and insights- I have to get some work done now- stay safe, all- NNC-
Serena_Montreal:  Thank you Marshall and all. Nasi Novare Coram
Angel_PA_US:  Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Ken_Oklahoma You must do the work (WGC2.24 Work)
Jos Netherlands:  Thank you all. NNC
Raoul_Australia:  Thank you all for another inspiring Chat, Nasi Novare Coram
Ginny_Ohio:  Thank you everyone. NNC
Hardev_Australia:  Thank you MVS, Society and all. NNC.
MaryL_Boulder:  Thank you everyone…your sharing of insights, struggles and challenges give me the inspiration and motivation to strive even more to become more connected to Knowledge, to find that center line. “I am honored when others are strong. Steps” Thank you. Nasi Novare Coram
Joyanne_Canada:  We are so Blessed to participate together. This too is a preparation for our WWC. Strengthening us, uniting us as we endeavor to lay the foundation of The New Message from God in our World. Thank you Everyone Nasi Novare Coram,
MVS Society:  There is a certain toughness that we all will need to face the new world reality without becoming jaded or breaking down. To build this, we have to keep facing it and notThis is part of taking the Steps to Knowledge. This is part of the preparation. We need tough love for a tough world.
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you All. Nasi Novare Coram.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Ken_Oklahoma Developing stillness is work. (WGC2.24 Work)
Alison_Boulder:  Thanks everyone for the relationship building we allow ourselves to do through advocacy work as well. Open invitation to Advocacy Gatherings weekly on Thursdays, held online at both at 6:30MDT and 7pmGMT. We are broadcasting broadly and directly as possible in a confused world.
Jennie_The Netherlands:  @MVS – Thank you
nenette_istanbul:  Yes there are many things to do now what to prepare, how to prepare, when to start where to start, so many. I need strength and Knowledge to do all these…Thank you to The NewMessagefromGod.
Josef Austria:  Thank you Marshall!
Darlene_Society:  Thank you Robert and Will. And thank you everyone for taking in this difficult message. Be well. Be strong.
Virgie_near Seattle:  @Arthur: thank you for sharing your experience–and risking being misunderstood. Don’t know how much this relates to what you’re saying, but toward the beginning of this school session I was so desperate to know my next steps about career and where to live, I was praying very hard–like, taking every moment I could to practice stillness and listening, and praying as honestly and deeply and intensely as I could to know what I needed to do next. And what seemed to become clear is an inkling of the huge amount of preparation I need to do before my real work in life can begin. And throughout this session, I’ve been experiencing some unburdening and starting to see how much I need to let go of. I need to keep setting things down so I can be free to receive the new things God has for me.
Jordan_Montreal:  Yes Marshall, thank you
May_Norway:  Thank you Marshall!!!!
rayhobbs_Colorado:  This is tough work , … you cannot be weak and pathetic
nenette_istanbul:  and most of all Thank You to The Messenger and The Assembly.
Val_Westport:  We are surrounded and protected by the Love and the Grace of God. Within this Sacred Circle, we learn and grow as we live our lives on our world of wonder and increasing need of us. We are the people that our world needs now.
MVS Society:  To build this, we have to keep facing it and not retreat into ourselves, into our personal world of desire and consulation.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  I encountered this quote from the “Secrets…” during this session and it hit me square: “You who are worried about the purity of your intentions must test them in action to discover the outcome. Those who seek purity first will not participate. The participation itself will establish the ability to respond and to receive. All purification means is relinquishing the obstacles to participation. The personal illusions and dilemmas must be burned away so that person may be able to join in relationship with true purpose. Therefore, concern yourself not with purity, for you will disable yourself. You cannot establish purity when you are not sure what it is. Instead, allow yourself to follow what you know to be true and do not hesitate. You will find this a great enough challenge.” – p107
Jansett_Boulder:  @MVS, “To build this we have to keep facing it and not”…?
Keiko_Ita:  @LaRaeUK, “I am learning to trust the Mystery” I have just remembered my own experience. I trust it, They trust me….
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Ken_Oklahoma What is Courage (WGC2.19 Courage)
Jansett_Boulder:  Oops, answered. Thanks!
LaRaeUK:  Yes MVS keep facing it. I often think of the blows life brings, again and again and again. I now see as each one has become a faded distant memory, that each has contributed to an inner fortitude that Knowledge will use and build upon.
Cameron_Canada:  yes, thank you Marshall.
Selma London:  Yes, Virgie, “Here the student of Knowledge must backtrack. They must undo what they have created that is not right for them. This is part of their redemption. They must untie the knots and loosen the chains that hold them down. They do this with commitment and determination, not with self-hatred and condemnation of others.” NM on Forgiveness
Maria_Boulder:  Wow this chat is moving so fast- I can not find a moment to respond, before there s something else that moves me… what you just said MVS-“Living is an affluent society, I make sure that I am being affected by the Great Waves as I observe them happening all over the world. This is part of my practice. Holding to the Center Line observing these things is also part of my practice. Knowledge has my eyes turned to the world. I am a world Messenger. I cannot take refuge in myself alone”, and “The challenge is finding the Center Line, the middle ground between hope and fear, between obsession and avoidance, between compulsion and listlessness. Knowledge is the Center Line. Practice returning to the Center Line. Inner Listening, Stillness, objectivity with yourself and others, GC and Great Waves awareness will bring you there”.(9:34AM)…Perhaps because I have had the privilege of my formative years being spent up close to the suffering and poverty and ingenious resourcefullness,in third…
Maria_Boulder:  … world countries …I feel the effects of the great waves crashing around the world, quite palpably. I have been aware that too much outer great waves focus creates a baseline of anxiety in my system… and on the otherhand if I am actually practicing avoidance, that also creates a baseline of anxiety! I am discovering that what is most calming to my system, is a deep stillness practice…and staying very close to the Present moment(with an awareness of what I have seen from the watchtower)- what is called for in my actual present circumstances…not to allow my mind to become a runaway wild horse…and at the moment it is about way way simplifying my life, that I may be more available to serve…and being honest about desires and fantasies that must be let go, that do not serve the mission of my life…(in as much as I am able to feel into it). Thank you all for this potent session….”I make sure that I am being affected by the Great Waves as I observe them happening all over…
Maria_Boulder:  … the world.” (MVS) wow- that is reverberating through my system…perhaps this is one of the more important reasons to deepen our practice: to be able to actually withstand a bit of this burden our Messenger carries.
Patricia_Society:  @Jennie9:33 Yes, help whoever can, to support New Knowledge Library’s Free Book Project…. http://www.newmessage….oject “With no internet access, no money for food (or books). The need for funding printed books and sharing the New Message of God on a personal level becomes therefore very important at this time.”
LaRaeUK:  Yes Keiko….yes. Learning to feel that inner certainty that only Knowledge can lead us too.
nenette_istanbul:  Thank you @MVS: ”To build this, we have to keep facing it and not retreat into ourselves, into our personal world of desire and consulation.”
Joyanne_Canada:  so true LaRae,
Selma London:  Yes, Marshall, “For the calling here is to serve the world, not merely to enlighten yourself, not merely to put yourself in the position of extreme happiness and contentment.” NM on Fulfilment
LaRaeUK:  Thank you for that Shawn…..
Carol_Society:  Much gratitude to each of you for the important work that you have done this session. And always deep gratitude to Marshal, Patricia and Reed for their dedication and service to us and to others out there who have yet to be found. These rich, extraordinary School sessions are gifts that will continue to give, well into the times to come. Nasi Novare Coram
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Why are the Wise hidden, … because the foolish always appear ….
Betty_UK:  Having lived in an affluent country and a non affluent country, I have noticed that people do have struggles in both countries, but they are different struggles, different set of needs. No matter where we live, the Great Waves is what we need to prepare for and focus on our preparation
Shrimayi Netherlands:  @Thank you Marshall I cannot take refuge in myself alone This is what Knowledge does
May_Norway:  Bless you all
Cameron_Canada:  I also want to thank Arthur for having the courage to express his true feelings at this time of his life. The are many who could not be so open.
Keiko_Ita:  Yes…deep gratitude..
Arthur:  @Virgie I can relate to what you told me, it is just though sometimes waiting for Gods work.
Virpi_Finland:  Oh my, I just looked out and during this chat the earth has turned white with snow. All snow had melted away already couple of weeks ago, and now it is back. Bad for plants and birds which have migrated here. Weather is more irregular than before. First signs of GWC.
Arthur:  In the meantime I will do the dishes.
Joyanne_Canada:  I too thank you Arthur, for you made me realize waiting in Stillness, practicing the waiting is oh so important, and I am grateful that you spoke from your heart. I agree the waiting at times can build to such pressure within. NNC my friend
Kari_H_Finland:  @Messenger, based on my experience we also have to be ready to face it. When I first time began to really look at the world and its events many years ago, I was filled up by overwhelming anger. This became so strong that I decided to stop looking because it felt that I will be swept away by the anger. Now I can look the events with clarity, objectivity and compassion.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  There are Forces of Dissonance in the world. They oppose the unity of life. They oppose the evolution of life. They oppose the work of Knowledge. They oppose the reclamation of Knowledge. These forces are generated from both within the world and beyond the world. These forces are evil in the sense that they oppose the unity and evolution of life. They are disruptive. They seek to separate what must be joined, and they seek to join what must be separated.
Tyyne Society:  Oh, so true “Patricia_Society: @Jennie9:33 Yes, help whoever can, to support New Knowledge Library’s Free Book Project…. “With no internet access, no money for food (or books). The need for funding printed books and sharing the New Message of God on a personal level becomes therefore very important at this time.”” To donate to this cause and so much of what the New Message is giving to the world go to: http://www.newmessage….ssage
Eron_Boulder:  Blessings everyone…Nasi Novare Coram
manuel_germany_:):  @Maria_Boulder. that is powerful : …” I am discovering that what is most calming to my system, is a deep stillness practice….” there we find our connection to God…
nenette_istanbul:  Everyday I walk the dogs for 3 walking in Stillness…truly Stillness and feel thatis heaven for me…everyday of my life. I just felt walking with the Messenger most of my time .
LaRaeUK:  I resonate with your words Kari. Before discovering meditation and the New Message I was so filled with anger, hatred towards the world, towards myself, towards those who raised me. Now I feel compassion as I realize where the anger and the rage comes from.
Kelton_Calif:  Thank you all! Nasi Novare Coram
nenette_istanbul:  Looking without judging
rayhobbs_Colorado:  The Forces of Dissonance are quite powerful. Do not be ambitious and think that you can combat them alone. Do not think you can overcome fear within yourself by giving yourself a grandiose view of your capabilities, for without Knowledge, your capabilities would be completely ineffective against the Forces of Dissonance. Here it is necessary to learn what generates power in the world. In the world, power is the result of the concentration of mind. In other words, a mind that is more concentrated will be more powerful and will be able to influence other minds that are less concentrated and thus less powerful. Concentration is the focus here. This is very important. The more a mind is concentrated, the more it is focused. The more it is focused, the more it is directed. The more it is directed, the more powerful will be its impact. Because you live within a mental environment, this is a world of mental influence. Here, if you do not exert an influence on your own mind, your mind will…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … simply be influenced by other minds. You will simply be pulled along in the direction in which most minds are thinking.
Cameron_Canada:  Thank you Everyone. Until next time, be well.
Virgie_near Seattle:  @Arthur–“it’s just tough waiting”–Amen to that! But … I’m learning to stop complaining. It is such a privilege to be here and doing this work.
Val_Westport:  Like arborists, tending a young orchard, we will guard our studenthood and protect the studenthood of each other, where we can. This is an orchard destined to bring forth a Divine harvest; we’ll tend it well.
Joyanne_Canada:  Beautiful Val :_)
Jorge_Spain:  Inspiring image, @Val
Tonia_Denmark:  Indeed we need tough love for a tough world. Nnc
Jansett_Boulder:  Well said, Val. Recalling the Johnny Appleseed tale…
Adria:  Thank you Marshall. Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram
Debbie-MI:  @Virgie-So true-“It is such a privilege to be here and doing this work.”
Jennie_The Netherlands:  The GWC is tough love
LaRaeUK:  Val your words always paint such beautiful images….thank you.
Tonia_Denmark:  Yes it is Jennie
Virpi_Finland:  Thank you Marshall and everyone for your presence here. It is the highlight of my week always.
Josef Austria:  Thank you Val!
manuel_germany_:):  @rayhobbs…. thank you so much for your wisdom. it is a battle,yes, but not with blades and crude violance, rather a battle of the mind…
David V Fr:  Thank you, it somehow confirms why my life is becoming tough, that’s because it’s propably the most efficient way to prepare, to be vulnerable and exposed rather than safe and secure. I pray that me and others will find their way and contribution through this. Thank you again
Jennie_The Netherlands:  @Patricia, I am in need of more books and also in need of the funding to make the prints to bring them with me.
Kari_H_Finland:  Here’s some wisdom I encountered today. “Any path is only a path and there is no affront to oneself or to others in dropping that path, if that is you see fit. Look at any path closely and deliberately and ask yourself one question: “Does this path have a heart?”. If it does then the path is good. If it does not, it is of no use.”
(Carlos Castaneda). Thank you all for this Campfire Chat. Nasi Novare Coram.
MVS Society:  The tendency to retreat into oneself where no real certainty or happiness can be found is the product of living in Separation. Yet the Great Coordination must call you out of this retreat and bring you into your true role and alignment with others.
Josef Austria:  Virpi; this is also the highlight of my week !
Jennie_The Netherlands:  Nice one: The garden of Eden = The garden of Need (enneagram)
Sang Hyun_CA_Korea:  Marshall, thank you for the
Jennie_The Netherlands:  Sorry (enneagram = annagram)
Robert_Society:  @Jennie – Please email the society and let us know what you are seeing and perhaps we can be of assistance. [email protected]
Jennie_The Netherlands:  @Robert, thank you I will do that
LaRaeUK:  Yes Marshall. To me what you have just said I have found to be the greatest blessing of discovering the New Message thus far. Giving, contribution and being of use to others is where genuine joy is experienced. Being a self indulgent, self centered cow brought me nothing but misery, and made those in my life miserable as well.
Rose, the Netherlands:  Thank you everyone. Thank You, Marshall. Nasi Novare Coram.
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you, Marshall.
Jennie_The Netherlands:  Thank you all, NNC
Howard Boulder:  Good to be with you all today. NNC
Keiko_Ita:  My today’s Step is “There are greater relationships awaiting me. I must prepare.” c.t.
Sang Hyun_CA_Korea:  Nasi Novare Corm.
Keiko_Ita:  Nasi Novare Coram.
Betty_UK:  Thank you all Nasi Novare Coram
Tonia_Denmark:  That is why I must move from where I am.
Alexandra-NL:  “Now the old age draws to an end. And yet you are preparing for the advent of this change and the beginning of a new order. The turmoil that you have felt in your individual lives is an indication that you are in preparation for a world change.”
Rosa_UK:  Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram.
Youngkyo_Korea:  Thank you Marshall and all. Nasi Novare Coram.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  There are many arguments against following Knowledge. There are many justifications for separation. There is a great deal of belief and speculation that support your disassociation from what you most deeply know. Much of what people value supports this disassociation from Knowledge directly and indirectly. This is true in other worlds in the Greater Community as well. Therefore, do not think that humanity is a bad or sinful race. Humanity is simply a race like all other races in the Greater Community at a certain stage of evolution and mental and physical development. It is necessary to learn how to deal with the Forces of Dissonance, which are quite operative in your world and which cast a great influence over all minds here. There are several things that you can do at the outset. First, you must learn not to become emotionally engaged with these forces as you learn to discern them and as you find yourself in situations where they seem to be prevalent. Do not love them. Do not hate…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … them. Do not embrace them. Do not run from them. You can become objective because Knowledge within you is objective. Do not seek these forces out and do not avoid them at all costs. Knowledge will keep you away from them except in certain situations where you will be able to contribute something in an positive way. (The Problem of Evil and the Forces of Dissonance )
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Retreana Carvedan Celton Iy: “Receive the Heart of God through your Spiritual Family that is joined about you.” Nasi Novare Coram
Alexandra-NL:  Thank you everyone, Nasi Novare Coram
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram.
Arthur:  I have always found it amusing how strict they are about following the steps as they are prescribed but still you can’t avoid reading about 10 steps every time you are here.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Steps to Knowledge is a cure for madness. If you are tired of starting over then stop giving up.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Some people cannot do this.
Everything has to be understood. Everything has to be controlled. Everything has to fit into definitions. They are slaves to their mind to their beliefs driven fundamentally by insecurity unable or unwilling to face the mystery and uncertainty of life.
Unwilling to take the risk unwilling to do anything daring, they live like a colony of gophers, they are just going to dig a hole and live there pop the head out once in awhile look around and go back in…… Nasi Novare Coram
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you ray hobby
Val_Westport:  Each tree responds to the sunlight and blossoms in its own time.
Danny_Australia:  Thank you Marshall, thank you all, Nasi Novare Coram.
Cameron_Canada:  ok time to go hurd my kittens to the bus. NNC
Val_Westport:  Until our next rendezvous, dear ones, we go with God.
manuel_germany_:):  Many thanks to you all. I am blessed to be connected with you all … have learned so much today… God is with us all the time


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