Tyyne_Society:  Wisdoms from the Messenger from our last chat…
Tyyne_Society:  “Always know where your mind is going.” A directive given to me in my long years of preparation.
“Most references to conspiracies contain both true and illusion, real news and false news. It takes great care and discernment and patience to see through all this. If it is your true purpose in life to do this, then you must build the foundation in Knowledge, and not fear and belief, to proceed, living with questions you cannot yet answer. If this is not your true purpose in life, then let Knowledge move you where it wants you to go. This means no more side journeys.”
“In most practical decisions in life, understanding should precede action. Before buying something expensive like a house, I want to have as much information about it as possible. I do not just say to myself, I feel good about this house, I will buy it. The same with starting a relationship. I want to know as much as I can about the other person, their history and tendencies and intentions so that I know what I might be…
Tyyne_Society:  … getting into. Knowledge comes out in this process of evaluation and is the final determining force. It is in things more mysterious, like great turns in my life that I must follow the Invisible Light without understanding.”
“Self-Knowledge begins with paying attention to your experience and your interactions with people, circumstances, change, disappointment, truth—everything. If you are fully paying attention, you are listening.”
“Being receptive and following Knowledge is part of the map. Having a keen mind objectively discerning yourself and all the forces around you is another part of the map. Knowing what you feel and feeling what you know is another part of the map. There are more parts to this map. You need to know of them and be using them all to have the complete picture and make real progress. That is why there are many “Steps” in the preparation.”
“The world is place of longing, confusion and deception. It is the environment in which we must work. That is why the…
Tyyne_Society:  … preparation is long, multi-faceted and so complete.”
“Depending on what you practice for better or worse, practice makes permanent.”
“Study this Chat throughout the week. Stay with your Steps. Keep your head above the fog of the world.”
Mathieu_France:  Hello everyone
Ilhun_Korea:  Hello everyone!
MaryL_Boulder:  Hello everyone
Hyeonam_Korea:  Greetings all!! NNC
Tonia_Denmark:  Nasi Novare Coram. Hello everyone.
Hardev_Australia:  Hello everyone
Tyyne_Society:  It is now the hour. Let us take a moment together to practice. Hourly practices are meant to rest our mind, to recognize where we are, what we are doing and to see if there is anything we need to know.
Danny_AUS:  Hi Hardev!
Insuk_Korea:  Hello everyone!
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Tyyne.
Arthur:  Hello everyone, good to be back.
Jason PA:  Above MaryL & below Tyyne……..you have numbers for your name still
Richmond_UK:  Thanks Tyyne, hello to everyone!
Joyanne_Canada:  It is so wonderful to see us gathering here. This growing World Wide Community, feels like going home each week .. Feeling the Blessing
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Tyyne!
Ginny_Dallas:  Heello everyone!
Corey-MedHat:  Hi everyone good to be here with you
Virgie_near Seattle:  Hello, everyone! NNC
Kari_H_Finland:  Yes, Tyyne. To recognize where we are right now…
Katia_France:  Hello everyone. Lovely to be with you.
Danny_AUS:  “Depending on what you practice for better or worse, practice makes permanent.” Strong message right here…
Mike_LF_CAL:  Hello everyone!
Lin_Boulder:  Welcome Danny!
Katia_France:  Danny: ““Depending on what you practice for better or worse, practice makes permanent.” Where’s that from?
Sanghyun_CA_Korea:  Hello everyone.
Ilhun_Korea:  Thank you Tyyne for the Wisdom from the Messenger.
Jennie_Netherlands:  After a walk in the forest in the Netherlands together with the three of us, Alexandra, Joe UK, my daughter Fleur and myself, we are now in a café to unite with you all in the chat. Greetings from us all from the Netherlands.
Alisa_Russia:  I felt a deep knowing of connection as we did the hourly.
Danny_AUS:  @Katia_France Marshall’s quotes from last chat, posted above by Tyyne
LaRaeUK:  Indeed @Joyanne…..our spiritual oasis.
Howard Bolder:  Good morning all
Darlene_Society:  Welcome everyone!
Danny_AUS:  Hi Lin! So great to see you!
Ilhun_Korea:  @Jennie, Great!
LaRaeUK:  Wonderful that you are all together Jennie!!
Frederick _UK:  Hello everyone.
Alisa_Russia:  @Katia – one of Marshall’s favorites – practice makes permanent
Hardev_Australia:  @Danny, practice makes permanent has been with me the past week. Keeps a good check on what I am doing.
Jeanne_Boulder:  I agree with you Joyanne
Katia_France:  Thanks, Danny. I must have scrolled by too quickly.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Jennie, it is a unique energy to be with fellow students… the presence it is.
Danny_AUS:  @Hardev Good on you for making it! You’re welcome Katia
Jason PA:  Alisa…..practice makes permanent……very powerful! thanx
Kelvin_Boulder:  @Jennie, thank you, sounds like it was a wonderful walk.
Keiko_Ita:  Hello everyone!
scot_canada:  Easter Blessings to all from Ontario, Canada
Darlene_Society:  Welcome to all to Week 7, Month Two of The New World Session.
We are a very unique gathering, a worldwide community of students of Knowledge, witnesses to Great Waves that the world is still unaware of. So today we ask that you help shed a light on the events close to home that you are observing and affected by.
The first question is: The Great Waves of change are generating political instability and economic stagnation around the world. Is this affecting you and your country and, if so, how?
Jennie_Netherlands:  We were listening to the revelation Following the presence and we practised stillness together. It is lovely to be together
Shirley-CO:  I’m seeing empty shelves in grocery stores, where before they have always been full.
Amina Russia:  The Great Waves surely affected Russia and continue to affect. Due to the European sanctions the economy has fallen down for the past couple years, prices on food and other goods have risen, but the salaries went down, and consequently the purchasing ability of an average citizen has lowered. The investment in military power has become much higher lately, which sacrifices other important fundamental sectors in the lives of people.
Jason PA:  There is a lot of fear & hate talk towards Trump, the recent bombings, North Korea, & the potential for WW3
Cameron_Canada:  Good Morning – snow and lagging internet this morning. Finally made it here.
LaRaeUK:  Here in the UK I feel a division between people. Those who wished to stay in Europe and those who didn’t. Violence against minorities is increasing.
Ilhun_Korea:  In Korea recently, the conservative first female president has been impeached a year before her term, and is now under investigation by the prosecution. This impeachment was initiated by the parliament, which had a majority seat, and spread by the media, and the president was dismissed by the Constitutional Court.
So, there is an early election in Korea. In the presidential election, there is a high possibility of a president coming out of the opposition party.
“Conservatives will be ruined by division, and progressive ones will be ruined by falsehood.” These words are being spoken.
Dominic_UK:  @Darlene: One thing I’ve observed is that economic growth hasn’t been very high in the UK since the recession in 2008. Shops have closed in a town near where I live, including, most recently, a builder’s merchant.
Jeanne_Boulder:  Fear of war with North Korea, stock exchange going down every day, only hear bad news. These are my fears\
Katia_France:  After Brexit and Trump, the French citizens are getting ready to elect their new president in a climate of uncertainty… And no candidate really stands out who would have the Knowledge to steer us all together to prepare adequately for the future.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Darlene_Society: Truly there are rulers and dictators who are cruel and oppressive and need to condemn and if you were to censor them in the end, even if you understood them, but you would not be so quick to go to war against them for the well being of their people. In the future, facing Great Waves of Change, certain leaders will try to take your nation to war, to divert attention, to redirect the population’s dissatisfaction and anger and frustration. Certain leaders will try to take the nation to war. They will create a new enemy and emphasize the danger of that enemy and they will try to frighten the people into thinking this enemy is really out to destroy them, that you must fight them you must unite to fight them but with few exceptions this is a ploy this is a deception because these leaders want to divert the public dissatisfaction away from them and onto someone else and appear to be a strong leader with the people’s welfare at heart and they will speak to people’s…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … condemnation, resentment and rejection of others. They will exploit the un-forgiveness that resides to such a great extent in the minds of people. (The New Message on Forgiveness (10.14.2008))
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Greetings other dutchies!
Dominic_UK:  @LaRae: I feel that too. The issue of the EU referendum has shown the division in this country.
Kari_H_Finland:  That is interesting Shirley. I have been observing the grocery situation in our country because 50% is imported. The first clear indication came recently when the winter this year destroyed some Mediterranean vegetable crops. This was immediately reflected in every grocery in Finland.
Danny_AUS:  It may not be relevant to the Great Waves directly, but what I notice is this kind of thick cloud of separation between people. As though people have nothing to fall back onto in terms of support and so must keep themselves stimulated in order to at least be holding onto something, if not they fall into mental illness and other kinds of dysfunction. It just seems way too hard for people to follow something more natural and harmonious, so they must grapple onto something that is a lot more fickle.
René_Qc:  I love the saying practice makes permanent too… but knowing it comes from Marshall guitar teacher makes it funny to me : P I am not denying the wisdom of it, simply that i find funny that his guitar teachers quote may make history without him never knowing about it.
Alisa_Russia:  I have to admit that I don’t really feel the effects of the Great Waves yet in Russia. I certainly do not feel personally affected. However, I feel that Russia will be hosting many refugees from the Middle East and Europe in the future.
LaRaeUK:  I also see more and more people who are simply given their opinions by the newspapers they read, and the news they watch. I hear how the language is used deliberately to lead peoples thoughts to the opinions desired by those in power.
scot_canada:  Chem-trails continue daily over our skies; false flag attacks on Seria
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Darlene_Society: As leaders of nations find themselves unable or unwilling to fulfill their promises that got them elected, if they were elected, then they will try to take the frustration of the people and direct toward someone else.
This kind of dictatorship, always require an enemy, of course this is how self serving people rise to power, by focusing upon an enemy, real or imagined.
If you really understand people you want to serve them you want to help them you resonate with them you feel compassion for them. Even if they are led by a cruel and oppressive government you feel for the condition of the people. You do not want to hurt them.
(The New Message on Forgiveness (10.14.2008))
Richmond_UK:  @Darlene I’m certainly seeing within the UK a lower return on investments. Continued uncertainty within the market, post Brexit decrease in the value of the pound and generally a tough market to operate in.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @ Darlene yes I see some things that have effected our world yet they have not really impacted the part of the country I live in. However, I do see how our world operates under law and justice and a quote that stands out to me from Living the way of K really hits home. “A community of Knowledge seeks to live the truth. A community of law seeks to coexist with others.” With this said, I don’t see our country and even our world in certain parts “coexisting”. I see the world in a very chaotic state based on fear, confusion, greed and corruption. This is the world we have come to serve. This is the world we are practicing now to engage with using Knowledge as our guide. I’m finding that practice does make permanent for me yet I am many times affected by the mental environment in such a way that it does get overwhelming for me to apply what I am learning.
ErikW-VA:  @Danny: I see this as well.
LaRaeUK:  Yes, Dominic…..and it is so sad. What I love most about the UK is diversity of the people I meet, from every country in the world.
Ann_UK:  Hello all.
Jason PA:  Very relevant @rayhobbs
Joyanne_Canada:  Yes Scot , chemtrails here too ..sigh..
Selma London:  KNOWING WITH MY WHOLE BEING
I am aware that this is going to sound full of paradoxes. For me, I am finding it useful to push against Knowledge for a sense of where I am. At times, I can give up needing to ask what more I need to know, because who is asking, and who am ‘I’ asking? That distance is sometimes no longer there, or in fact I’m rediscovering what I used to know when I was much younger, but I lost faith in that because I didn’t really know what it was. Now there’s a very gradual re-opening process happening where I’m both remembering what I used to do, as well as developing in a new way. If I’m in the moment with the inner exploration the questioning is not really necessary, and can even be a hindrance by inappropriately re-activating the intellect. That is because ‘I’ don’t need to know in my mind, but with my whole being – asking to be shown, rather than ‘told’. It’s no longer just an opening of the mind – that’s insufficient; it has to be a full body opening now…
Selma London:  … (especially the back of the heart). And then I must stay in that world of what I know, constantly adding and moving bits around, as things evolve. It’s mysterious and real at the same time. And all of this is somehow very familiar and just the beginning. Yet, this is all very temporarily the case – it’s only a snapshot. “
“Some people are born with a greater perceptual range that has always been with them. But it has been a source of grief, discomfort and alienation from others as a result for many people—more of a curse than a blessing. But it is a blessing, and it portends greater things. But it must have the right framework, understanding and approach and the right preparation for these greater abilities to be cultivated and used wisely, according to their true design and purpose.” Higher Powers (2011)
I always wanted to be ‘normal’ and tried to cut myself off from and extra-sensory perception. “That is why ultimately it is Knowledge that brings you to Knowledge. At the…
Selma London:  … beginning, people have other desires. They want community. They want love. They want support. They want pleasure. They want comfort. They want to be relieved of their burdens. Part of their pursuit is authentic, and part of it is not. So it takes a preparation at the outset for them to begin to come to terms with the fact that their approach is not wholesome and honest yet and must become wholesome and honest, or they will not reach the Greater Powers. They will not find their greater purpose. They will not be in a position in life to assume greater responsibilities, and they will not take the time to develop the wisdom required to take this greater journey.”
Adria_China:  @Darlene I am currently visiting Beijing and I can see by contrast how much my country is not respecting the resources. Here, I feel that every drop of water is being closely monitored, and it might be due to economical situation, but when thinking about how much water and paper is wasted in my country, it is alarming, to see the lack of incentive to leave little imprint on the environment. People are careless and not embracing possibility of crisis, and how even the little action of an individual affects greater things.
65961:  From my observation:
paul_MA:  Politcal instability- Yes, Trump elected- serious potential for increasing instability. As well as other nations..North Korea..increasing instability there too. And China= impacting economic instability…And Russia- Not only instability within countries but also between the major powers….especially nuclear armed countries,,, And India/Pakistan over Kashmir; more nukes involved….
LaRaeUK:  Beautifully expressed @Selma. Resonates.
Joyanne_Canada:  I see that here too Adria, we seem unaffected so far in Canada, but everyone is in a bubble about the climate change.
Darlene_Society:  @Adria , yes, not just in Poland…”it is alarming, to see the lack of incentive to leave little imprint on the environment. People are careless and not embracing possibility of crisis, and how even the little action of an individual affects greater things.”
Alisa_Russia:  I see Russia as a stabling force in the world.
Greg_UK:  Syria and Israel too @Paul. And Yemen
Selma London:  It’s the lull before the storm, and I’m more preoccupied with the inner waves…
Adria_China:  @Alisa @Joyanne, in Poland as well, nothing critical happening to be a cause to prepare for the Great Waves
paul_MA:  In addition to these instabilities on the political side…WIthin this country we are in a bubble of non-news…people here do not receive the truth of what is happening so they base their decisions on the non-reality…dangerous because they cannot see.
Katia_France:  René: I didn’t know the quote came from Marshall’s guitar teacher. Thanks for telling me that (had to miss the last chat, unfortunately). I feel better now, because my first reaction was “I disagree with this”. For sure, the more you practise something, the more you dig a rut and get used to it, for better or for worse, what you practise comes naturally. But sometimes, if it is a bad rut, Knowledge can help us out of it. It takes time and energy and a lot of discomfort sometimes, but if there wasn’t that possibility, redemption would not be possible for anyone. I have changed some of my ways and I’m still evolving now, but I’ve been able to undo some things I’d practised through ignorance. Thank goodness for that!
Greg_UK:  Fake News MSM propaganda culture
Dariel_Boulder:  Yes, Shirley, and there are signs in the produce section that the organic avocado crop in Mexico had done poorly so there were few and the price was high. In stores with conventionally grown they have more choices but healthy food–which is always scarcer–will be harder and harder to get.
Danny_AUS:  @Selma For some reason I feel that the inner waves and the outer waves cannot be separated
David_Va:  Yes, I deeply feel increasing pressure to be stable and the requirement to place a greater emphasis on work and career to be able to survive into the future. This is necessitating wiser actions and greater consideration for every move I make. Implications of failure are far more palpable now, which has forced me to grow up quickly. Strong currents of fear flow through the public discourse now. I have to be closer to Knowledge as a result, for falling prey to these influences can cause failure. I am having to get creative with acquiring basic resources and sharing basic resources. I am having to turn to farming and having to render a greater effort and a greater amount of attention to my life than I thought possible a year ago. This is truly challenging, but truly redeeming. If it were not challenging I would get bored anyway
paul_MA:  scot canada- chem trails… Geowatch.org very important to see.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  We have had major provincial cuts to our transport and library budgets recently here in Saskatchewan. Our city council recently announced changes for green spaces, garbage service, outdoor ice rinks, and bus schedules- not for the better – to be ratified soon. There is a general feeling of “Times are getting tougher” amongst the population. Meanwhile we have an amazing multi million dollar stadium just built for football.
Tyyne_Society:  Katia and others the full quote from MVS is, “Depending on what you practice for better or worse, practice makes permanent.”
Jennie_Netherlands:  Knowledge works through people, even through guitar teachers, if you have the ears to hear
rayhobbs_Colorado:  The nations of the world, in order to survive these Great Waves of Change, will have to cooperate to a greater extent than has ever been done before. This includes sharing of resources rather than struggling over them or competing for them. For if one part of the world becomes chaotic, the rest of the world will be greatly impacted. No longer can nations simply serve their own interests, disregarding the well-being of nations around them, because the world is far too interdependent. The human family now depends upon stability, not only within the realm of its own nations, but beyond it as well. Indeed, the shift must go from national security to world security. This is not merely a good idea, or something that represents a moral emphasis, a higher ideal; it is really driven by necessity now. World stability, world security: these are the things that must be the concern of all those who are in positions of responsibility and leadership. (The New Message for Political Leaders)
Betty_UK:  Since the UK referendum, the GBP currency has devalued, affecting the imported food prices, and it also affect the prices of commodities. I feel a tension between people, and I can see this increasing as people struggle to get by, food prices, increase in energy prices. Brexit also opened opportunitist for far right parties in europe to emerge, taking advantage of the discontent people in general. It reminds me of what the new message says about, old animosities will resurface. I do know that if the currency become below one pounds, we may enter the same crisis as in Venezuela.
Matt_bzn:  From the perspective of financial markets, you simply cannot believe what you are being told. The situation is being entirely manipulated to convey a sense of normalcy and growth where none exists. Virtually every market is in an artificial bubble, and where true value exists (precious metals, REAL value) markets are being manipulated to suppress them. Bank bail ins are coming, a cashless society of complete control is on the horizon
Cameron_Canada:  I saw the trails way up above the 56th parallel here about a week ago. They were perfectly spaced across the clear sky. I wondered if they could be natural.
LaRaeUK:  @Shawn…..football equals mass distraction hypnosis to keep the masses distracted.
MarkBerger:  Since the middle of March, I have felt growing conflict and anxiety. This week, a passenger being dragged off a plan was disturbing to me since I fly a lot, and the release of hacking tools stolen from the NSA were released to the public. Cyber war and all types of war seem to be ramping up. Civil war, perhaps, even in the USA is coming.
Lynn, CO:  I see the silver air and feel the rumblings of the GW’s being expressed through the people, the precursors.
Diane-NM:  Hello everyone…
Ginny_Dallas:  Here in Dallas, prices in certain sectors have increased due to many workers leaving the country out of fear over possible deportation.
Kari_H_Finland:  @Alisa, for some reason I see this too: Russia as a counterbalance in the world of chaos
Danny_AUS:  I wonder how I could become more aware of the larger situation without getting too absorbed by information. I certainly can’t find out what is happening on a big scale by simply meditating, but at the same time a lot of the information out there is so dense I wouldn’t know where to start.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Even at this moment while humanity builds its defenses against one another, as it wages its economic, political and military conflicts with one another, you have a greater adversary at your doorstep, an adversary for whom you have not prepared, but who has indeed prepared for you. And this adversary, though small and though not equipped with military assets, has great skill in influencing human thinking and therefore human behavior. If you have ever wondered what is flying around in your skies, mysterious objects that cannot be identified, that cannot be pursued, acting in a clandestine manner, you can be certain that an intervention is underway, and this intervention will undermine everything that humanity has ever established for its own benefit. (The New Message for Political Leaders)
Greg_UK:  @Betty the decrease in value of the GBP and USD and other World Bank 1st basket currencies were globally effected by the Chinese Yaun being added to the 1st basket of currencies. This is a Gold and asset backed currency and therefore was strongly valued against the other Fiat currencies.
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you Darlene. The first thing I observe is in my country, that business is more valuable, than people. It is like an endless party, where people are rushed around and stressed out, if they don’t make it before the next important event, for example like Easter. And in between the events there are smaller events, that keeps us stressed, if we don’t make that either. Always a push everywhere and very difficult to be unaffected by. Now things are changed for me as a student, because voices from everywhere are coming through since November.
Tyyne_Society:  Seeing what so few are seeing. This is the burden of truly seeing what is coming while others do not see, do not know and do not act. But for us, this seeing and knowing is critical to where we need to be and what we need to be doing – the acting aspect of the three-fold process.
Jansett Boulder:  @ Selma, it feels to me that you are touching upon something important for us all to remember. In truth, it’s not about us at all and it behooves us to align ourselves (attempt to anyway) with the Greater Coordination. This was part of a recent Continuation Training Step for me, There Is a Greater Harmony in the World: “In your relationship with the world, you will find conflict and you will find harmony, and it will be difficult to reconcile the two, for they seem to be almost mutually exclusive. But they are all part of the same condition. This seems ambiguous and contradictory, and yet you approach both with a growing equanimity. The man or woman of Knowledge only values the power and the presence of Knowledge, whether it manifests itself in situations that seem harmonious or in situations that are conflicted. They are not bound by simple definitions. They are free of the restraints of this kind of thinking. This gives them the ability to see, to know and to act.”
David_KC:  I will answer this first question by first saying that when I tune into the political arena, I find it difficult to tell who is telling the truth, and who is just basing everything on what others are saying. I find it very difficult to discern what is happening in the world. This is impacting my family because my family is being swept into the political storms and claiming to know the truth about everything based on their political ideology. This seems to form separation. I’ve had to exercise discretion and not share anything political because it has always ended in resentment and name calling (on their part). The political and economic instability is definitely showing in the marketplace and in my work. There are efforts in the market place to sell and create false advertising on a scale larger than I’ve ever been exposed to. A lot of waste, a lot of scams, and ever more need to exercise caution in the marketplace. People can be persuaded to buy and do things based on their political…
David_KC:  … ideology and beliefs and assumptions. I have been very frustrated in the past from this. Although many of these things have been going on for a while, it is getting worse. I know this because I’ve seen it transpire for years and the New Message has been pointing to this, but not necessarily in this depth.
paul_MA:  Cashless society- yes i see that…. I see that the Dollar will become worthless .
Sanghyun_CA_Korea:  To me the biggest issue that catches me now is the tension between North Korea, China, US and South Korea. I don’t think anything terrible is going to happen, but as every change starts from within each of us, how individuals respond or react to the situation will set the future one by one.
LaRaeUK:  Yes@ Tyyne…we must prepare internally and externally for a future that will be unlike the past.
Jeanne_Boulder:  So much fake news effecting the mental environment, I am amazed when I hear people say oh everything is ok. They do no SEE what is happening! I can see the whole world is failing.
Kari_H_Finland:  I see state welfare policy becoming harder and harder. I have been long-time unemployed and I have realized that I must get away from state welfare. This is my primary focus at this stage of my life.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Danny_AUS: … this is a challenge for you, a message for you. You must take it personally, and take it inside yourself. The New Message is here for you to read and consider. It is up to you to do this. You will not know the value, importance, and emancipating power of this message until you deeply consider it for yourself. And it will take great courage, for you will have to face things that will be very difficult and perhaps frightening to consider. And you will have to overcome your own tendencies to accommodate your own views. You will have to overcome the tendency to console yourself with currently held assumptions and beliefs, in order to look again with clear eyes. If you cannot see, then you cannot know. If you cannot know, you will not prepare. If you are not prepared, then life will overtake you and overwhelm you. So preparation then is the key. Preparation is built on knowing what is coming, feeling it and knowing it, and that is based unseeing it and sensing it and…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … recognizing the signs of change, the evidence that great change is underway. And you have to undertake this awareness on your own, not in a public arena necessarily, not at first certainly, but as an individual who has been given the reigns of responsibility and now has the challenge to use this power and this skill for the greatest possible effectiveness.
Arthur:  The instability around the world is frightening the people, this will give rise to both heroes and villains alike.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Darlene, I have been directly affected by the economic impact and this is in the US and seemingly prematurely.
Greg_UK:  I am afraid I have to run to work early today but i wanted to post some points I noted this week
Alisa_Russia:  I am realizing how free and fortunate I am. I feel it is important not to be drawn into the political and economic drama that is going on, but to maintain integrity and impartiality. It is important to live frugally within my means, never spending more than I earn. I am seeing the importance of building a strong foundation in Knowledge, for Knowledge harmonizes everything.

Greg_UK:  The Great Waves of change are generating political instability and economic stagnation around the world. Is this affecting you and your country and, if so, how?

Local instabilities are either going to join up into global conflicts, or act as local preludes to global solutions.
Economic stagnation and engineered fiscal collapse are planned to happen in order for a fairer system of economics to replace it. Global gold and asset backed currencies levels the playing field for all countries.
Disclosure of ET intervention and political class moral and spiritual corruption (#pedogate) and gold standard all go hand in glove together.
A huge wake up call for humanity…
What role for students of knowledge in a post-Disclosure world?

Diane-NM:  Too many distractions all around me. I sense a frenzy of change in the air, mostly negative. I am stepping back and just taking a deep breath and trying to listen and pay attention.
Sanghyun_CA_Korea:  Yes Tyyne, it requires continued attention and practice.
Greg_UK:  I will have to review the chat transcript tomorrow – NNC
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Tyyne “Seeing what so few are seeing. This is the burden of~.
Virpi_Finland:  Finland: deepening polarization of people to extreme camps of opinion is what I see most clearly and sometimes also feel in the mental environment. Unlike before, now many people are looking for strong leader or simple answers to complex questions to calm their fears. But Finland is really Europe’s backyard. We do not yet see real effects of GWC in a large scale. It is still quite easy for people to be asleep.
Inhee_Korea:  @Tyyne “But for us, this seeing and knowing is critical to where we need to be and what we need to be doing” Thank you for this quote.
Kari_H_Finland:  @David, “Strong currents of fear flow through the public discourse now.” Yes, this I have experienced when there was a mass immigration of refugees in Scandinavia 2015-2016.
LaRaeUK:  Be well Greg……NNC
paul_MA:  From Preparing your Family:”…the Great Waves of change are accelerating a process that must take place…
Danny_AUS:  Thanks Ray
Frederick _UK:  It all speak to the emergency that is moving in the world and the preparation needed to be taken by those who have not found the New Message at this time. This is something we can help with, in our giving of ourselves.
Shane_NZ:  here in NZ We have a growing number of people struggling to afford accommodation as property prices have soared in the last couple of years, with average house prices in some of the main centers passing a million dollars. There are growing number of people living in cars. Growing crime and acts of violence. People are unhappy with the government and are losing faith in human leadership as the opposition parties really do not offer much hope either. we have also been experiencing a lot of flooding around the country from extreme weather systems, all the while the middle of the country continues to rock with earthquakes..
Ilhun_Korea:  @Jansett, Thank you for the passage. “In your relationship with the world, you will find conflict and you will find harmony, and it will be difficult to reconcile the two, for they seem to be almost mutually exclusive. But they are all part of the same condition. This seems ambiguous and contradictory, and yet you approach both with a growing equanimity. The man or woman of Knowledge only values the power and the presence of Knowledge, whether it manifests itself in situations that seem harmonious or in situations that are conflicted. They are not bound by simple definitions. They are free of the restraints of this kind of thinking. This gives them the ability to see, to know and to act.”
Joyanne_Canada:  Thank you @Jansett
Maureen_Boulder:  Re: Practice. Step 80 I can only practice. “If you look at your life objectively but for a moment, you will see that your whole life is practice. Therefore, you will practice regardless of whether you have a curriculum for
your benefit or not. Therefore, We give the curriculum which you may now practice. It will replace the practices that have confused and belittled you, that have conflicted you and that have led you into error and into danger. We give you a greater practice so you will not practice those things which under mine your value and your certainty.”
Joyanne_Canada:  here too Alisa
LaRaeUK:  It sounds as though the Great Waves are accelerated for those of you in NZ @Shane.
Danny_AUS:  @Jansett Thank you
Mathieu_France:  I am seeing that the refugee crisis is dramatically increasing in Europe. These people are coming from countries directly hidden by the first Waves of the GW (Middle East, Africa for most of them), fleeing terrible situations in their home nation and they are unfortunately now encountering incredible hardship in Europe, because Europe do not want to deal with the Great Waves and is still in a denial phase regarding what really needs to be done, thinking it can keep this waves of suffering and instability at bay. And this situation will only get worst at this point, as it is too late to radically change course (based not on our theoretical potential, but on our usual pattern of behaviour). It is painful to witness this lack of human unity and compassion and its consequences on the suffering of thousands of people. Certainly a call for more preparation, but you also need Knowledge to look at that without being disabled by it.
Amina Russia:  @Alisa, Amen,,,,impartiality breeds some freedom to think clearly i think and cultivates Knowledge
Mathieu_France:  *not hidden, hit
Lynn, CO:  @Virpi I also see the polarization, separation occurring as if we must some how choose a side…
MVS Society:  What is permanent within you can only be broken by and different and restorative practice. My guitar Teacher said “practice makes permanent” to emphasize the danger of incorrect practice leading to bad habits and poor skills as a musician.
Corey-MedHat:  “Condemning the world is like walking the floors of a hospital and complaining that everyone is sick.” – MVS
Cameron_Canada:  @ joyanne and Alisa. Here too
Selma London:  Overall in Britain there’s much more integration and tolerance of difference than in the past – here in the East End of London in the 80s there was regular violence on the streets, now it’s generally quiet. But I can feel the anxiety brewing beneath the surface.

Levy_Brazil:  Economy in Brazil has been struggling to even keep at 0-0.5% growth.

Regarding availability of food, we’ve instances where certain foods like tomatoes were 3x more expensive for a few months, and the basic staple of Brazil (rice and beans) were also difficult to find or more expensive for a while, having to “accept” rice and beans from Argentina. These things have come and gone, but since they happened now with me being a student, it made an impact on me.

Regarding refugees, I’ve seen people from disaster-affected areas in Asia, here physically in Brazil, asking money in the streets for charity orgs in Asia. This was a first, I believe! And something that also impacted me, and it’s just going to increase. Also very possible for other South-Americans to have to immigrate here (as many Argentinians did during the top of their economic crisis years ago).

Alisa_Russia:  @Jansett, I was on that Step recently too. Thanks for pointing to it.
Danny_AUS:  Thank you Marshall
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Maureen, thanks for the reminder of step 80!
Ann_UK:  @Jansett. My step for today, fourth time round yet only today am I beginning to see the meaning.
Selma London:  Really letting go of wanting things is a bit of a challenge, and only really possible knowing that what I really need is provided. Otherwise it just becomes me depriving myself, and not having what is essential. “This is not a safe journey for the unwary or the impatient or the person who demands that they get what they want. They will lead themselves off in another direction. They will make themselves vulnerable to very divisive forces. That is why We provide this very sober approach.” Higher Powers (2011)
I was always very responsible and appreciative of what I had – early in life being quite privileged, but when I was 6 & we moved to Oslo that was all lost. It was not a terribly difficult adaptation at that age, especially as my brother and I were very creative with games. And although I am generally loyal, allegiances have been very fluid. “Do not lower your standards because others have lowered theirs. Be careful whom you associate with, for they will lower your standards….
Selma London:  … Imperceptibly they will do this. You will succumb to their compromises, thinking that that is the way to be in life.” Higher Powers
On my own, I was not really aware of these things – always wanting to ‘help’ others, or finding myself with other outsiders. Occasionally now I do get a glimpse of how my change in behaviour does have a wider effect locally.
“The Greater Powers want to help you divest yourself of your foolishness and the things that you think are true that are not true, to bring you up this mountain so that you can see and not just think and believe. For once you attain the higher places upon the mountain, the landscape becomes obvious, whereas before you could only surmise what it would be like.” Higher Powers
paul_MA:  This Wall that Trump is building….people pushing for this Wall can foresee great migrations from the US Southern borders…..coming…they know.
Dariel_Boulder:  Adria…What a blessing to see up close how another country is valuing their resources. I went to a ‘Conscious Capitalism Conference on Food Security on Monday and heard ideas from the spiritual and wholistic perspective of a farmer, a businessman trying to overlay more conscious ways of producing palm oil in Equador ? and selling the harvest here and around the world (How does this benefit the Equadorian peasants), Black activists who are growing food in the center of Detroit… The farmer spoke briefly of depleting resources and global warming. No one else mentioned this grave problem that will cause big problems in growing for the masses. All groups seemed to ‘speak past each other’ though I expect the conference was meant to cross-pollinate. Very few attended. It was frustrating to see how much people are unaware of what is coming.
Cameron_Canada:  Is it just me or is anyone else having a difficult time keeping up with the chat in a tech way? Perhaps it is just my poor connection?
Matt_bzn:  @Levy Brazil – is there talk locally about serious shortages of water? I thought I had sen that somewhere…
Kelvin_Boulder:  My Step for today – Step 4 ” If I understand the world, I will understand myself.” – You were sent here to serve the world. To Serve the world, you must understand it….You must understand it’s beauty, it’s conflicts and it’s fundamental predicaments. For me “understanding…” or observing the world without getting attached, bringing my mind back to the center line, the mind wants to be safe and certain. But we are entering very uncertain times.
Katia_France:  Yes, Marshall, I perfectly hear and understand that. It’s hard to undo bad habits, especially if we’ve ingrained them with practice. The hard thing is that we don’t always have the wisdom or knowledge to realise we are doing something wrong. A good teacher is so important. Thank goodness for the NM, STK and our teachers to steer us to our true course! NNC
paul_MA:  The NM talks much about the Great Change coming….any mention of the length of this time period?…decades , centuries….
Jeanne_Boulder:  Condemning the world is like walking the floors of a hospital and complaining that everyone is sick.” – MVS(9:33AM) I like that Quote
Kari_H_Finland:  Yes, Betty “Ancient animosities will rise again”. When there was alot of fear and rage towards the refugees from the Middle East, I took a look into the “Nazi” party declaration in 1920 and to my amazement it resembled a lot the thinking of those Finnish citizens who were aggravated by the refugee crisis.
mellany UK:  Hi everyone.
Ann_UK:  @Cameron Canada: I have problems each chat with scrolling. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn’t and it usually doesn’t when I am trying to follow an important view.
Levy_Brazil:  @Matt, haven’t seen that, but will check, thanks!
Shrimayi Netherlands:  I feel there is a hardening especially in situations when people do not get what they accustomed to.
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Maureen, I really agree with “If you look at your life objectively but for a moment, you will see that your whole life is practice. ~”
LaRaeUK:  Potent reminder Kelvin…..this is the world we are meant to serve.
Selma London:  “There are dangerous waters ahead, more dangerous than any situation that the human family has ever had to face before. It is not simply a few problems that must be solved. It is an overall shift in human awareness, human behaviour and human relationships.” Navigating the Difficult Times Ahead
“Whole communities will collapse because there will not be the infrastructure to support them. The cost of everything will go up. There will be financial chaos beyond what governments can remediate.”
Alisa_Russia:  @Paul – you mean, how long before they come in earnest, or how long will they last?
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … Life is very fair and honest, but it can be a very harsh experience for those who are not. Likewise, if you set sail on the open sea, you will find conditions difficult if you are not prepared, and you will find conditions dangerous if you cannot sail. , …. In the study of Steps to Knowledge, there are two aspects that the student must concentrate upon: the first one is for you to discover what you know now, what you do not know and what you cannot know. The second is contact with your Inner Teachers. You need a guide into new territory, and you must rely upon this guide with great emphasis. Your Teachers will not let you rely upon them too much; nor will they allow you to hold them as great heroes or heroines. This is not appropriate. Like all true teachers, your Inner Teachers are here to render their presence unnecessary. They help you to set sail, to strengthen sails, to learn to mend your sails when they break and to follow the wind that is God’s movement in life. They teach…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … you to sail. (WGC1.18 Higher Education)
David_Va:  The political undercurrent has moved far away from the hands of the constituents. War is being provocated. My generations’ future is being gambled away to enrich the elite. As a result, people in my nation are clinging to a false sense of security more tightly. People in my nation are looking to protect what they have and to gain more. People are turning to violence increasingly as a problem solving method. This is sad, and yet it goes unnoticed that affluence here means poverty somewhere else in many cases. Rarely do I see the impetus to cooperate and co-exist. Often I see self-serving greed and irresponsibility- especially in the corporate arena where I work. It is depressing, yet that is why I have come.
Tonia_Denmark:  Resonating, Mathieu, it brings me to that it is as if the strongest minds are pulling the opinions their way, politically speaking, but also in let’s what to wear for clothes, what to eat for food, what to think and say that are appropriate and which religion to believe in. I have noticed that as a student, our minds are becoming increasingly stronger, and a more appropriate way of everything is needed.
Cameron_Canada:  @Anne – yes that is happening to me also. I am finding very distracting and can not follow wthe conversation.
Selma London:  “This is not about having a perfect personality or having greater phenomenal powers. It is about being still and clear, compassionate and determined—a very different state than the glorious images that people might conceive for themselves, a very different state of mind—a mind of clarity and simplicity, a mind that is able to concentrate and be very focused and not pulled off guard by every force and whim of the environment, a mind that can face the beauty of life and of human contribution, a mind that can face the tragedy of life and human failure and loss, not with perfect equanimity, but with clarity and compassion.” Higher Powers
Jennie_Netherlands:  Alexandra says: my step for today is very much in line with the topics we are discussing. Step 287: With Knowledge we cannot be at war.
Tyyne_Society:  @Sanghyun – What you say here is so true, “…it requires continued attention and practice.” And it says in many places in the NM/GW teachings that we must look without coming to premature conclusions. So many of you are referencing people clinging to the past or finding escape. To be with what we are seeing over time, to let the pieces of the puzzle fill in – that take courage – to really look. Sometimes people come to premature conclusions to allay their fears or uncertainties about the future – about food scarcity, global war and conflicts, refugee crises, polarization between peoples within nations and between nations – or they just don’t want to look at all because it makes them uncomfortable and people don’t want to be uncomfortable. For students – this discomfort is a sign. To me it is a sign. If something makes me uncomfortable then I really need to look at it – and look deeply and squarely at whatever that is.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Yes there are many destructive things taking place in our world. Yet we live in Separation and are prone to error in so many ways. I like to stay with my practice and in giving myself to what I am here to do. This takes concentration and focus on a daily basis. I have learned that practice builds character depending on the practice. For in practice of Steps I am giving of myself. I am unlearning to learn so that I may be able to give and to serve. This is why we are all practicing. It is important to be aware of what is happening. But I cannot give in to making conclusions for this will affect my practice because it affects my thinking. I must remain vigilant with my practice and let nothing interfere with it. This is at the moment how I am viewing my life. So much to unlearn to learn. So much to give to be able to receive. So much to receive to be able to serve. This drives me forward. And I feel that it is Knowledge moving me in this direction. NNC
Matt_bzn:  @David VA – very heartfelt. Thank you.
Tonia_Denmark:  For example, I can not be that much on the Internet anymore, and I’d very much like to leave Facebook, simply because my mind is filled with pictures on the inside, that I project on to the surroundings, unless I clean themy out. And they all reflect an emotional, that in most cases are inappropriate with reality in present time.
Reed_Society:  @Danny, “I certainly can’t find out what is happening on a big scale by simply meditating, but at the same time a lot of the information out there is so dense I wouldn’t know where to start.” Marshall has spoken of the importance of watching for change and signs in a few key “lynch pin” environmental and economic realities. The price of food. Rate of global sea level rise. Global temperature, especially of the Arctic/Antarctic. Arctic Methane. Rates of real economic growth. Keeping your eye on just a few of the dials of this enormous global dashboard is more achievable. The deep critical dials will ultimately force change in the more surface dials. Important is working to stay in a poised, grounded state, not being triggered in anger or excitement or novel interest and looking for movements in the rate of change, the acceleration of events and the connection between events.
Danny_AUS:  People over here don’t seem to see an exponential curve in the way things are going. In fact if you were to mention things such as ‘unprecedented change’ or ‘great difficulties ahead’, they will simply think you are paranoid. It is more common for people to respond…. ‘Oh but those are just things that are part of the common ebb and flow etc’ but really they are not feeling the uncertainty in relation to the Great Waves.
Joyanne_Canada:  thank you Tyyne,
Kelvin_Boulder:  As for practice, I am practicing observing others reactions, why do people think the same, act the same. What is behind that? Why are people beginning to sing the same tune? alot of the things related to internet security and such has been around for a very long time…Just now being fed into the public and the spin machinery.
Jason PA:  @Cameron many mornings here in PA as I look out my kitchen window over the Delaware river into NJ I see 3,4,5 parallel lines of Chemtrails. NJ gets it BAD!
paul_MA:  Danny- yes—the house is on fire and the people in the room (USA) are still enjoying their drinks….
Danny_AUS:  Thank you Reed that is very helpful
Katia_France:  Thank you, Reed, that was very useful (5:43pm)
David_Va:  @ Matt bus:
Alisa_Russia:  @Danny @Paul – or all the animals have moved to higher ground while the people are still standing on the beach.
paul_MA:  Jason–the problem with chem trails is very evident in Boston if you are aware; see geoengineering.org
David_KC:  Thank you Reed. Important
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Marshall “practice makes permanent”
LaRaeUK:  I feel that too @Tonia. Those images are not good to be with.
Amina Russia:  Thank you, @Reed_Sosciety , that’s very helpful, “lynch pin”
paul_MA:  Alisa–there are not that many animals or insects left….
Mike_LF_CAL:  @David_VA (8:40), excellent observation, I am experiencing the same impressions.
Adria_China:  @Reed, thank you
Matt_bzn:  Thank you Reed – great insight.
Jorge_Spain:  Same here in Spain, @Danny AUS. This still amazes me.
Sanghyun_CA_Korea:  Thank you Tyyne. Discomforts come from lots of places. Part of them from Separation, and part of them must be from Great Waves. Yes, I will be watching and seeing.
Alisa_Russia:  @Paul – but they still seem to know better
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Contemplation
We take time and care to objectively consider the meaning and merit of our own actions and decisions, questions and needs, and the actions of others. In addition, we practice contemplating experiences of Knowledge to understand them and know how and when to take action. Along with this, we contemplate certain areas of the New Message which hold special meaning for our studenthood and development as people of the New Message.
ellen-Boulder:  @Paul, I too have noticed in the past few years a general decrease in the number of birds
Dariel_Boulder:  I found an article in the paper about a farmer who has been organically growing on his land for 17 year who may have to leave due to a sand & gravel pit that may be opening up stream from his farm. I remember reading a year ago the the Bessemer ditch that provides his water has some of the best agricultural water in the state and his growing so benefited from it. The sand and gravel is used for school playgrounds. The farmer went so far as to ask the Governor of our state to refuse the lease for this business as it may cause him not to be able to farm there anymore. The Governor said no. People do not understand how little is grown here in this county and how food insecure we–and the whole world–are.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Discernment and Discretion
We take time and care to objectively discern what is before us and what we are seeing in others. With discretion, we seek to be self-aware and to know what we are saying and doing in any given situation. In this way, we maintain our inner connection with Knowledge while engaging with the world.
Alisa_Russia:  @Paul @Ellen – there are definitely fewer fish in the rivers.
manuel_:)_germany:  At this website you can see on a worldly scale the update of world population, food production, environment, energy, illness, economy, crime… http://www.bibliotecap…s.htm
Tyyne_Society:  As we continue to engage in the first question, let us further consider and speak to the second question for our chat today. You’ve already begun to speak to this but perhaps we can take this a bit further… The Great Waves of change are creating the conditions for war, famine and massive human migration around the world. Is this affecting your nation and, if so, how?
Levy_Brazil:  @Ellen-Boulder, there’s a guy that has been recording nature sounds for a living, and over the years having to visit the same places, he’s seen a great decrease in quantity of sounds of birds, animals, insects.
Selma London:  Yes, Dariel, and how much water is needed for food growing…
Tonia_Denmark:  As a student, I realise that the mind is increasingly getting stronger, as we practice. That means that it does matter what kind of mood that I am in, because it does have an impact on whether the sun is shining or not, and it does matter what type of relationships I’m have with my neighbours and the neighbouring countries. The hardest part is to find which gates gates that needs to be closed and which that needs to be kept open or extendedly opened.
Jennie_Netherlands:  Sorry, watching and looking for years allready and see more birds and more insects in Holland. More people being aware and helpfull towards refugees. So that only makes it for me harder to see the what the media is telling.
LaRaeUK:  Thank you @manuel…..most useful!
Jorge_Spain:  @Ellen, sparrows populations, for example, are declining sharply.
manuel_:)_germany:  you are welcome LaRaeUK!
JeffreyAdler_ATL:  Jorge, Danny, others: a common reaction I hear when I talk about the GW and/or Intervention is, “Oh no, that goes against everything I believe in. I can’t go there.” Or something like that.
Patricia_Society:  Rene/Katia – “Practice makes permanent.” Yes, it does bring up the challenge of ruts, habits, reactivity versus conscious self selected learning….We are always practicing, so what are we practicing? How responsive are we to Knowledge, to insight? And how reachable are we to Knowledge “up on the surface”? To what extent can we “catch ourselves” as needed, and redirect our thoughts, expressions, interests to mid or higher order levels? How to conserve intra-personal resources-mental, physical, emotional in order to focus, apply and dedicate them to what they are most needed for? How to treasure our existence and the opportunity to be here, to serve and to help where needed? How to become free to go where we are being directed to give? How to traverse the array, the cacophany and the haphazardness of life, and make it to and hold to “the Center Line”….a streaming reality of relationship, service and communication…that the New Message from God is a living reality and an example…
Maureen_Boulder:  I found this helpful section in the New Message Wiki – Mandates for the World http://www.newmessage….World
One interesting mandate I have not seen before: “Take twenty percent of your wealth and spend it on taking care of people.”[4] From the Engine of War
Ken_Oklahoma:  The winter was mild and plants were flowering 1-2 months early in Oklahoma. A couple of years ago USDA changed the frost free dates for the US, to reflect the subtle changes going on.
MVS Society:  To see up-to-date worldwide GW events see Climate and Extreme Weather News on YouTube.
Adria_China:  @Tonia, thank you. “There is no neutral relationship”. Everything we engage with has an impact, and vice versa, we have an impact too. Every situation is a potential for Knowledge.
Richmond_UK:  @Jeffrey, this is my recent experience too. Some people cannot even begin to face the prospect of the GWC and/or Intervention.
LaRaeUK:  So much to keep in mind and observe….thank you Patricia!
Levy_Brazil:  Thank you, Marshall!
Ayesha_Society:  @Tyyne, re to really look. I think what you are saying also applies to those things that look good and promising. We can stop looking and come to premature conclusions when clouded with feelings of hope and promise, and in some ways I think this is trickier because of the positive feelings attached to it. Reed said something to me yesterday, that a person can speak inspiring and positive words, but when you really look without filling in the blanks, there is reality behind those words to be seen.
Alison_Boulder:  @Kelvin, internet security was not important to me until I was struck with its worth and value, how it connects relationships and allows moments like this. It just had to become an issue beyond just me and having “nothing to hide.” I never thought it could get to inflitrated– like water, which seemed to flow without end, and relatively safe to drink. Much like you had learned long ago to respect internet privacy, now I begin to look at this. And @Mark, Cyber war, a reality. We who seek the share the NM to the world are not the only ones who know where people gather and seek.
Danny_AUS:  @Jeffrey Yes that is so much the case, people clinging to their beliefs at the cost of not seeing the real picture. I have seen that also.
Cameron_Canada:  I am looking out my window at another snow storm.
Keiko_Ita:  The people are in denial…we must have courage to face problems we have and to change…If you understand we need spiritual power to see.
LaRaeUK:  @Jeffery…..poor humans are so willfully blinded by belief. “Belief serves the mind, the heart serves the spirit”….
Sanghyun_CA_Korea:  Thank you Marshall. Just subscribed!
paul_MA:  Human migrations…..in the US I can envision great migrations from the West to the Eastern US. The problem with the Eastern US is the number of Nuclear power plants, 103++; Nuke Accidents will push people to the West…a bulge in the midsection…
Katia_France:  You’ve summed it all up beautifully, Patricia (5:51pm). Thank you. How to? How to?! I feel so incredibly fortunate to have found the NM and to have this opportunity for finding true guidance within me. Of course, all these challenges remain nonetheless. It is a daily practice and takes moment to moment vigilance. NNC
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Reed, “…Rate of global sea level rise. ” the rate of sea level rise, every student should be watching this because this will be an exponential rise and therefore will change very quickly.
Danny_AUS:  Thank you Marshall
Matt_bzn:  Right on Jeffrey….
paul_MA:  The pressure will then be to the NOrth over the Canadian border…
Kari_H_Finland:  This site is so far regularly updated for following the climate change impact http://www.fasterthane….com/
Jorge_Spain:  I was studing the Great Waves (in a way) for years before finding the NM, and I have been studing the Great Waves ever since, too. But in myself, I realize how difficult is to really come to terms with this -not just to react to bad news somewhere, not simply obsessing with this, only to forget it next year.
paul_MA:  Earth changes – The Watchers..another good website for watchtower actions.
71171:  Regarding timeframe: from THE PROPHET, in The New Messenger book, received on July 23, 2009
in Damascus, Syria: “The future is upon you. The world will be unrecognizable in twenty years. You have nowhere to hide and no reason to be blind. It is an emergency for humanity, for only an emergency and a great need could propel God to send a New Revelation into the world.”
Danny_AUS:  @Patricia Thank you I feel that is so important.
Sanghyun_CA_Korea:  Thank you Kari, bookmarked!
rayhobbs_Colorado:  HUMANITY IS GOVERNED BY WAVES OF FEAR that draw people here and there, waves of fear that dominate their actions, their thinking, their conclusions, their beliefs and their assumptions. Do not follow the waves of fear that move across the world. Instead, remain steadfast and still in Knowledge. Allow yourself to observe the world from this point of stillness and certainty. Do not be swayed by the waves of fear. In this way, you will be able to contribute to the world and not be its victim only. You are here to give, not to judge, and in stillness you are without judgment upon the world. Recognize, then, the waves of fear, but do not let them touch you, for in Knowledge they cannot touch you because Knowledge is beyond all fear, … (Excerpt Step.152)
Ginny_Dallas:  @ Katia, “I feel so incredibly fortunate to have found the NM and to have this opportunity for finding true guidance within me. Of course, all these challenges remain nonetheless. It is a daily practice and takes moment to moment vigilance.” I second this!
Mark_NJ:  Just read your entry….I hear you Selma_London….thanks for sharing
Darlene_Society:  Please tell us who you are 71171.
MaryL_Boulder:  @Ellen, yes I have blossoms for the first time in the plum and apple tree yet I hardly see any bees except for occasion single honeybee or yesterday a precious bumblebee. When I think of my pollinating each blossom by hand I feel the sadness of what we have done to kill off so many of the pollinators. The words “30% loss of food production” used to puzzle me when I first hear it but now I see so many factors affecting the food shortages.
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Marshall.
LaRaeUK:  One thing I do when I hear my passengers complain of “other”….is to say, that anyone that harms or lashes out at others, are undoubtedly in a very dark place inside themselves. And that I know what that darkness feels like…..so my response to that is to treat people kindly and with compassion. In the hopes that it might cause them to react a bit differently. The state of the world, starts with me. Am I helping it or hindering it?
Danny_AUS:  I have found in particular that having imbalances in particular pillar’s has greatly inhibited my ability to see the world clearly.
Russell_Sask:  Now a Pause just Be Cuz. its the Top of the Hour, Together we Are One in Stillness.
jeanine_Society:  Dar – forgot to change my number 71171 to name: jeanine_Society…
Cameron_Canada:  @71171 I was listening to that yesterday as well. I shared it on Facebook.
Katia_France:  “We can stop looking and come to premature conclusions when clouded with feelings of hope and promise, and in some ways I think this is trickier because of the positive feelings attached to it.” So true, Ayesha! A good thing to bear in mind.
Mark_NJ:  Same here Alisa_Russia. America’s brother, and at times older brother.
Mathieu_France:  @Tyyne: I can begin to see these signs indicating how the GW will destabilise wealthy nations: people from poor devastated nations coming to the wealthy and more stable nations to try to take refuge, and people from the wealthy nations trying either stay in denial of what is occurring, or (we are moving to the next stage now as denial becomes more complicated) to protect themselves against the flow of refugees, acting from a separated perspective. There is no cooperation and this will poison the situation. It clearly shows already in several ways that there is no real GWC-proof place in this world. And climate change, despite its utter importance and consequence for everyone on this planet, is still very distant reality in most people’s awareness, if we compare it with the power it has to destabilise everything.
Darlene_Society:  It is the hour. Let us stop and take a deep breath and feel gratitude to Marshall and the Assembly for bringing us to this time of preparation and Revelation.
LaRaeUK:  Amen Ginny and Katia….

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THE STEPS VIGIL, May 26 – June 14, 2017.
The Steps Vigil is a worldwide commemorative broadcast event honoring the 20-day period in which Steps to Knowledge was received by the Messenger in 1989.
For more information: https://www.newmessage…vents

Hardev_Australia:  Thank you Marshall and the Assembly for this time together.
jeanine_Society:  So we don’t have much time…the world is on fire and it is up to those of us who have found the New Message to build the foundation for the world…a serious undertaking…
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you Tyyne, I experience that Denmark is opening up the borders for humans in need, but perhaps because we are surrounded by water and is a very small country we are not very influenced by other opinions or beliefs from abroad, unless it is put there by the media or other business handlers. So there is a tendency to reject everything new unless the media accepts it (or strond minded humasn) and therefore it is a challenge to come to Denmark and start a new life. It is by the sea level also and has a rather chilly weather.
MVS Society:  Let a world of increasing uncertainty, fear and instability bring you closer to Knowledge, closer to the well of certainty, wisdom and strength deep within you. Let the Great Waves motivate and serve you in this way.
Danny_AUS:  @Jeanine Indeed
Lin_Boulder:  @Ayesha, it reminds me to look at what a person actually does in long-run, no just what they say. Before the discernment is well developed, I need to wait and be patient to observe before making quick conclusion.
Jason PA:  @ paul ma a cashless society (digital cash) is the easiest way at the moment for “them” to control every “cash” transaction. Currency is like the oil of the control system machine
Jeanne_Boulder:  Thanks to all for your words of wisdom, we are so very blessed to have each other! Nasi Novare Coram
Maureen_Boulder:  From The Preparation: The preparation begins with what you see in the world and what you are aware of within yourself. As you proceed, the preparation strengthens your ability to be perceptive, resourceful and wise in responding to changing and unpredictable circumstances.
If you can recognize the reality and the power of the Great Waves to impact your life, this will naturally begin a long process of re-evaluation regarding how you live, where you live, your use of resources, the strength or weakness of your relationships in helping you to prepare and the direction your life really needs to follow.”
http://www.newmessage….ation
Lingling_China:  o, I forget the time difference, get on chat one hour later. just missed the whole chat. Will read it through then.
Adria_China:  Thank you, Marshall. I will include this in my prayer
paul_MA:  Jeanine-yes to build the foundation from the ashes of the old world…Just as a Forest Fire clears away the deadwood, clears the way for the new way to arrive…..we are the Seed bearers and the carriers of the blueprints that will be needed.
Ann_UK:  Thank you Marshall
Cameron_Canada:  I was wondering where that was recorded. Damascus was it? I thought it must be in europe from the background sounds.
Susan_Malaysia:  Thank you, MVS, Patricia, Reed, the Society and everyone on this sacred chat..NNC
Robert_Society:  Thank you everyone for continuing your hard work in service to those who sent us. May we see the next Step before us…and have the clarity and courage to take it. Nasi Novare Coram.
Mathieu_France:  Hi Lingling : )
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Roberto_Boulder I am being honest with my words because of my intent. My intent is more powerful than my words. Perhaps you might think a more eloquent or rational presentation would be better. I say, “Do not be dishonest with yourself.” My words are adequate to convey my message, for those who can hear and for those who desire something greater. (Honesty) Rahn, …
Tyyne_Society:  Ayesha – so true – to look at those things that create discomfort or aversion and those things that create comfort or hope and promise in some way that may not be solid or based on what might really be there or really be happening. Important to point out that it works both ways, thanks for that – that there is something to be seen beyond how we frame things – whether the package is really unattractive – causing avoidance or really pretty – causing attraction. The attraction or hope or promise is like wrapping and tying something up neatly with pretty paper and a bow and calling it “good” but not really looking at what that package contains.
Matt_bzn:  @Jason PA – also, to control behavior. If you do something “they” don’t like, you forfeit your monthly credit allotment. You are right on.
LaRaeUK:  Indeed Jeanine……we must do the preparation and the work.
Mike_LF_CAL:  Thank you Marshall!
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Thank you Reed Marshall has spoken of the importance of watching for change and signs in a few key “lynch pin” environmental and economic realities. The price of food. Rate of global sea level rise. Global temperature, especially of the Arctic/Antarctic. Arctic Methane. Rates of real economic growth. Keeping your eye on just a few of the dials of this enormous global dashboard is more achievable. The deep critical dials will ultimately force change in the more surface dials. Important is working to stay in a poised, grounded state, not being triggered in anger or excitement or novel interest and looking for movements in the rate of change, the acceleration of events and the connection between events.(5:43PM)
Kelvin_Boulder:  @MVS, thank you.
Arthur:  The world still think it can outrun the problems it has created and we are still in denial on a large scale. I sense great upheaval when the dam finally breaks, when the realization that there’s nowhere to run finally sets in. Truly a moment of great chaos and opportunity, and to think that I will be in the middle of it fills me with both fear and excitement.
Youngkyo_Korea:  Thank you Marshall, Reed and all. Nasi Novare Coram.
Tonia_Denmark:  Jeanine, thats right, there is not much time left.
Darlene_Society:  This was a powerful experience for me, hearing from every point on the map, putting together the New World reality through all of your accounts and seeings and knowings…in one hour, the Great Waves reality became more real. Thank you for your bearing witness to what most people do not have the heart or capacity to see.
Frederick _UK:  Thank you Marshall Patricia and Reed. Thank you to everyone participating in they well of inspiration.
MVS Society:  We are in the foothills of the Great Waves of change. The great change is only just beginning. The NMG must be learned, lived and shared. Can you feel this?
Dominic_UK:  Thanks Marshall and everybody here. NNc
Alison_Boulder:  @Jeanine, your quote here “So we don’t have much time…the world is on fire and it is up to those of us who have found the New Message to build the foundation for the world…a serious undertaking…” leads me to invite you all to join in Advocacy for the New Message.
Meetings are Thursdays 7pm BST and 6:30 MDT at Uberconference.com/NewMessage. Another use of the Internet for a meeting such as this.
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Ilhun_Korea:  @Tyyne : The peninsula is a sharply confronted area between China / Russia and the United States / Japan. Recently, there is growing concern about US preemptive strike against North Korea.

There has been no official announcement of North Korea at the two summit meetings between the United States and China, but negotiations are underway. Currently, Korea is at the crossroads of going to one Korea or continuing to maintain two Korea. One of the options is to keep the two Koreas and let the US open North Korea to Chinese style. Such a rumor is circulating.

Korea is now in a state of growing concern about the war.

rayhobbs_Colorado:  “Well, I say what is on my mind. That is honesty!” I say no. That is not honesty. Even if speaking your mind is a form of confession, it is not yet honesty. It has the potential for honesty, but speaking your mind can be destructive and hurtful to others and can indeed endanger and imperil you. So, do not cling to that definition, for it is far from complete.
Here we must have a new understanding: Want what you know. Know what you want. Honesty does not require that you say everything that you feel. It just requires that you not alter or deny the facts of the matter or alter or deny your real experience of things. It will often ask you to withhold your conclusions and to hold back your speech until a greater understanding can be acquired. So, speaking your mind, which is usually a form of reaction, is hardly honesty. The greater honesty is to be aware of what you really know and to follow what you know so that you can apply it everywhere. Therefore, truly honest people are really very…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … rare in the world, and even they are limited by their awareness and preparation.
Many people are free with their ideas, but this really says nothing about them. Many people will express their opinions with great conviction to anyone who will listen, yet if it is something of a personal nature, they will give a very different story. Honesty is actually inside you, but it is first gained by awareness. If you are aware of your true feelings towards something, if you are aware of what must be done, then you can plan out your actions in a way that will have the greatest benefit with the least harm. On rare occasions Knowledge will override this, and you will be moved to do something very unexpected and very forceful. But this is quite the exception. Knowledge is silent most of the time. When you learn to follow Knowledge, you will become silent most of the time.
Honesty is not something you inflict upon the world. Honesty is something that you experience within yourself. Truly honest…
rayhobbs_Colorado:  … people, then, may not always speak, but every time they speak, they will speak the truth. In other words, much of what they know to be true they will not speak of, for it is not useful to do so. Here, discretion and discernment must be developed—two great developments in The Way of Knowledge. Then your words will have greater impact and more awareness will be carried with them. (WGC2.9 Honesty)
Douglas_St.Paul:  Joseph of old was in Egypt, and we are here, so that many lives may be saved.
Lynn, CO:  Yes Marshall, Thank You
Mark_NJ:  There are plans for a “cashless society of complete control” but theirs going to be a Holy Transformation to that “plan” to bring the societies of the world in to an enlightened form of giving…
paul_MA:  Thank you Marshall- I am contending with two fires… the fire within and the fire from without….
Kristina FL:  Yes Marshall
Richmond_UK:  Thank you Marshall, Patricia and Reed/Society for today’s chat. Nasi Novare Coram.
Tyyne_Society:  I agree Dar. Very interesting to hear from you all, all around the world and what you are seeing and experiencing. Thank you. And thank you to MVS, Patricia and Reed.
Lucille_Maine:  @MVS Society: “Let a world of increasing uncertainty, fear and instability bring you closer to Knowledge, closer to the well of certainty, wisdom and strength deep within you. Let the Great Waves motivate and serve you in this way.(12:03PM)” Thank you, Marshall. These words will be my mantra for the week ahead.
Matt_bzn:  yes Marshall
LaRaeUK:  Yes Marshall…..yes. So grateful that you’ve brought this blessing to us and to the world.
Katia_France:  Thanks, Ray, that teaching on Honesty is such a precious and important one! And it really speaks to my experience.
cole_boulder:  Nasi Novare Coram. Thank you all.
Dominic_UK:  @MVS I do feel the Waves building
Patricia_Society:  Thank you all so much for joining together to build this environment of studenthood, realization and service with Marshall. As I just said to another student here, “You have an oar. I have an oar. And we’ll row side by side and PULL…”
Danny_AUS:  @Ayesha resonating with that. This also reminds me of the great danger related to our vulnerability as human beings. Our behaviour can be easily predicted by any force or mind which is aware of these tendencies we have… Whether this is the media, or an extraterrestrial race who has the power to affect us in the mental environment. So we must be careful that when we feel we may be on the right track or having good experiences, to also question that, and to set the priority on having a stable foundation and baseline.
Mathieu_France:  @Ilhun: I’ve been following that, it’s concerning.
Hyeonam_Korea:  That is why we are here to work and finish our work. Thank you all. NNC
Katia_France:  Thank you and bless you all.
Cameron_Canada:  Definitely feeling it – in case that question was not meant to be rhetorical. Thank you Marshal
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Remember we must love ourselves in order to follow knowledge freely. All of you are gems, glittering in the light, in the night…..
Jeanne_Boulder:  Blessing to you Ilhun Korea, I thinks of all of you there often. Things do seem to be unstable there as well. We need people like you in Korea to help fuel the light of Knowledge. You are the pathway to this light of Knowledge.
Hardev_Australia:  Yes Marshall, I do feel we are at the foothills with the GWC looming above the horizon.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @71171 (8:57) Thanks for the prophet reference>
MarkBerger:  Yes, MVS, I feel this.
Adria_China:  Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram
Ann_UK:  Thank you everyone. NNC
Jim B. Upstate NY:  @ MVS “The NMG must be learned,lived and shared. Can you feel this?” Thank you. There is not a day that goes by now that I don’t feel this. What I do with this feeling is the question. Yet, I am a beginning student of Knowledge. Thank you my friend for everything you have done!
Tyyne_Society:  @Ilhun – thank you for sharing this… “The peninsula is a sharply confronted area … Korea is now in a state of growing concern about the war.”
Arthur:  @rayhobbs You have to be honest with yourself to be able to be honest with others.
Kari_H_Finland:  Thank you all for this Campfire Chat. With gratitude from Finland. Nasi Novare Coram.
Ilhun_Korea:  Yes, MVS…
Danny_AUS:  @Tyyne yes I can see that… I also find however that there is the possibility for the other extreme when we become overly aware of this potential weakness of ours, and so we may make it a point to do the opposite of all the things that make us feel good…
jeanine_Society:  The WWC is our real time window to the world…thank you all for sharing what you are seeing, experiencing – as we join together, who we are and the gift that we have brought becomes more utilized, more focused and more directed….more purposeful…
LaRaeUK:  As are you Shawn…..
Matt_bzn:  Smart comment Danny AUS. Thanks.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Ahhh..LaRae…
Danny_AUS:  From this our health and relationships can become affected by this
paul_MA:  Jeanine– i feel a great acceleration of events and a greater interconnection of events too.
Patricia_Society:  To all, consider any opportunity you may encounter going forward to share The Great Waves of Change – Navigating the Difficult Times Ahead. http://www.greatwaveso….pdf. Thank you all again….
Sanghyun_CA_Korea:  Yes MVS, maybe it is due to the NM Revelations I read, but I feel the world is darkening. But NM and KN shields me from the effects of those at least emotionally.
Jansett Boulder:  @MVS, so profoundly stated in so few words, thank you. May we always remember and never forget the New Message from God and what we must do: LEARN…LIVE…SHARE.
Mathieu_France:  @Danny: I agree, being quite familiar with that one as well: “if I have a preference there, so the truth must be in the opposite direction, where it’s painful” (!) The mind cannot be trusted in that regard. What helps me discern there is that Knowledge is very different feeling that these swings of the mind.
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you Marshall, must re-read this chat.
mellany UK:  One of my Steps this week, is instructing me to observe the world, with objectivity, and without condemnation. I’ve stayed with this Step for several days…and am still with it today. I’m realising the degree of strength, understanding and focus that it takes to be able to face the world, head on…..acknowledging its true condition…to really feel …. to be impacted, yes, but not overwhelmed .. and do this from within a space of compassion and true understanding. When I observe from this perspective, this state of being, I feel energised, motivated … when I look from within a personal mind/emotional perspective I feel sometimes feel sad, anxious….somewhat drained. This is a good compass for me….I know that I’ve moved away from my centre .. away from Knowledge. “You will be far more aware as a man or woman of Knowledge. But this can lead to greater condemnation unless that awareness is tempered by a greater understanding.” – Honesty, Wisdom Vol
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur: Recognize what a great and difficult thing it is to gain real honesty, and you will not demand it of others.
Dominic_UK:  I second that, Jeanne. You have a strong community of students over there in South Korea, which you are fortunate to have
Jangsun_Korea:  Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram.
Betty_UK:  Thank you Patricia S the world needs it very much.
LaRaeUK:  Yes, that is so important Mellany….without condemnation.
Eron_Boulder:  Blessings everyone…Nasi Novare Coram
Danny_AUS:  @Mathiew yes Knowledge is a unique feeling beyond the duality
Mathieu_France:  Thank you all. NNC
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur: Knowledge within you is like this wise saintly person. So, you go with questions and you don’t get anything, and you are disgruntled and disappointed. You doubt yourself and you doubt Knowledge and you say to yourself, “Well, maybe this is all self-deception anyway. I’ll just do what I want. Maybe I’ll read a new book and get new ideas and do that.” But if you continue to come back again and again and do not accept any idea your mind gives you that parades as Knowledge, then you will develop awareness and discernment. And eventually you will even see the necessity and merit of discretion.
Therefore, true honesty brings about the ability to wait, the ability to evaluate oneself constructively, the ability to discern, the ability to not speak when it is appropriate, the ability to speak when that is appropriate, the ability to follow a Greater Power within you, the ability to abide with what is known and the ability to avoid or step away from that which is harmful or untrue.
LaRaeUK:  Thank you MVS, Patricia, Reed and fellow students…..so much wisdom shared here today. So grateful for all of you and your insights.
DavidV Fr:  There is one thing that is clear from this chat and that is how much the human experience is entering new territories and how much humanity need the New Message and the Revelation, the more I look the more I feel how humanity remains vulnerable without it, unprepared… and prone to failure… and here we are gathering… Thank you all. Nasi Novare Coram
Joyanne_Canada:  thank you Mellany
MaryL_Boulder:  Hi lingling: Better late then never
Carol_Society:  @Darlene: Yes, such a powerful discussion today—sharing the reality of the Great Waves in each of your countries through each of your actual experience, as opposed to the other ways we seek news/information, ex. media. Deep gratitude and blessings to all. Nasi Novare Coram.
Lin_Boulder:  @Patricia, @Korean team, facing the strike of GW in that region, it is the very circumstance to share the GWC with people.
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Marshall. I think there is the answer of all in the NM.
Darlene_Society:  To our Korean family, I second that as well, Jeanne. You are on my mind and in our hearts. Stay together, stay strong, remember, remember…
Dominic_UK:  Well said, DavidV
Danny_AUS:  My Step today: Step 46 I must be small to be great… ‘Recognizing your limitations allows you to work in a limited context very successfully. This demonstrates a greater reality than you could have realized before. Your greatness must not be based merely on hope or high expectation. It must not be founded on idealism but on true experience. Allow yourself to be small, and you will experience that greatness is with you and that greatness is part of you.’
Debbie-MI:  @mellany U.K.-Thanks for sharing your experience with your steps this week. It is so important to be able to observe with objectivity and compassion and STK is so helpful in that regard.
Ilhun_Korea:  @Darlene : Thank you so much…
Danny_AUS:  @Darlene I think everyone should be reading this to feel the true pace their awareness should be at
Arthur:  @rayhobbs I would never demand honesty from another. After all dishonesty it the backbone of our world
Joyanne_Canada:  To our Korean Family, Blessings, Stay Strong in Knowledge.
manuel_:)_germany:  Many thanks to all for your observations, experiences, insights and wisdom you have shared with the Society. “Be the change you want to see in the world” – it starts with our own minds, our hearts, our attitudes, our perceptions and preferences and our actions… – Nasi Novare Coram I am very grateful to have found the NMG and to share with all of you wonderful kindered spirits this amazing journey, which at the end will set us free and unite all people of the world, so that we can be a responsible race, spreading peace, Knowledge through the universe.
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Marshall, Patricia, Reed and All. Nasi Novare Coram
MVS Society:  I do not recommend looking at GW and political events too much as this can cloud and overtake your mind. Remember, you are building your connection to and awareness of Knowledge and with it, greater things that must be seen and understood.
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Darlene and Joyanne
Tyyne_Society:  Last week during the conversation about adaptation and maladaptation I spoke about adapting to Knowledge and the environment of Knowledge – that could easily be the “pretty package”. It is a hope. It is a promise and it can be a reality, but we are also living in a very maladapted world in a state of separation that is not in a state of Knowledge, and we have come into and been raised in this maladapted environment and have taken on these maladapted behaviors through exposure and repetition over time. So here we are/I am, working toward bringing Knowledge into the forefront while seeing the reality of what exists and what is – internally and externally and with perseverance and work going somewhere real.
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Thank you Marshall Let a world of increasing uncertainty, fear and instability bring you closer to Knowledge, closer to the well of certainty, wisdom and strength deep within you. Let the Great Waves motivate and serve you in this way.(6:03PM)
Kelton_Santa CruzCa:  Thank you all. May your connection to Knowledge grow stronger every day
rayhobbs_Colorado:  @Arthur: Do not fortify your personal mind by building more and more bricks of judgment upon which to stand. The eagle that soars will always soar higher than he or she who builds a tower from which to look. The higher the tower, the more it is a prison for you—a prison from which you cannot escape. Better to develop wings than to build towers towards the sky. (Honesty)
Ilhun_Korea:  @Lin, @Joyanne : Thank you. We would be stronger with this situation.
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Darlene and Jeanne.
Jangsun_Korea:  @Lin & Joyanne, Thank you. This country will give us an opportunity to fulfill our mission.
Keiko_Ita:  Thank you for being here everyone…Nasi Novare Coram
Tyyne_Society:  Blessings to you all.
Reed_Society:  I have felt very rocked at a deep level recently by what I see as one of the greatest forcings of near and long term change in the world that is happening right now. It is the global mean temperature — the hottest years globally in recorded history are #1: 2016, #2: 2015, #3: 2014. What could be bigger than that?
MVS Society:  “My prayer to Heaven “give me strength, wisdom and courage.”
Hyeonam_Korea:  Thank you Jangsun well said what I wanted say.
rayhobbs_Colorado:  Retreana Carvedan Celton Iy: “Receive the Heart of God through your Spiritual Family that is joined about you.” Nasi Novare Coram
Lin_Boulder:  Pray for all North and South Korean people. Be safe.
MarkBerger:  Yes, Reed. It can feel hopeless looking at that. And yet, this is why we’re here.
Reed_Society:  Thank you all for this campfire gathering
Jason PA:  @Selma “Do not lower your standards because others have lowered theirs. Be careful whom you associate with, for they will lower your standards….Imperceptibly they will do this. You will succumb to their compromises, thinking that that is the way to be in life.” Higher Powers …….GOOD stuff! Thanx!
Danny_AUS:  @Tyyne thank you for sharing that, this was actually on my mind today, thinking about how we could be advanced in the way of Knowledge, but wondering whether there will ever be a time where we aren’t affected by the troubles and tribulations of living in a physical world, in a physical body, in a state of separation. I was thinking that in fact no it would be hard for that to be possible, as we will always need to face these challenges, because the world is not a pretty place, and separation overall is not a pretty place to be in…
MaryL_Boulder:  @Rayhobbs: Knowledge is silent most of the time. When you learn to follow Knowledge, you will become silent most of the time.
Honesty is not something you inflict upon the world. Honesty is something that you experience within yourself. Truly honest. people, then, may not always speak, but every time they speak, they will speak the truth.” Thank for revealing the ancient Tao de Ching “Those who speak do not know. Those who know do not speak.” Important challenge for a student of Knowledge to know when to speak and when not to.
Insuk_Korea:  Thank you Marshall. I will remember “you are building your connection to and awareness of Knowledge and with it, greater things that must be seen and understood”
Darlene_Society:  There is a new hope in the world…thank you everyone. Nasi Novare Coram
mellany UK:  “So here we are/I am, working toward bringing Knowledge into the forefront while seeing the reality of what exists and what is – internally and externally and with perseverance and work going somewhere real.” ~ Resonating, Tyyne. Thank you.
Hyeonam_Korea:  Yes Lin, First of all is survive and then have to work.
Maureen_Boulder:  To all my Korean friends. Sending you my love and support. I pray for your safety. I pray that you are so connected to Knowledge that you are one with it.
Keiko_Ita:  “The Lamp” is our navigator.
Tyyne_Society:  Thanks, Reed, for this information on climate change. The reality of the situation at hand.
jeanine_Society:  @Darlene & Tyyne, thank you for hosting this important Chat – a world reality check – beats watching the world news…
Ilhun_Korea:  @MVS : Yes, thank you. I like this prayer the most, “Give me courage, wisdom and strength.”
Jordan_Montreal:  Thank you everyone, NNC
Tyyne_Society:  Yes, Danny and Mel. It’s a challenging environment to navigate and we have great strength available to us from beyond.
Tonia_Denmark:  MVS, I bought a recorder when I returned from the Encampment last year. Since I am very influenced by the mental environment, I may be happy to use it now to read and listen to the revelations without constant distractions.
Shane_NZ:  Thank you Marshall and all, Nasi Novare Coram.
Jangsun_Korea:  Thank you Maureen.
Cameron_Canada:  I have another school trip next weekend and not sure I will be able to be here. Our practice continues. Until next time, thank you for participating. NNC
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Thank you Tyyne for moderating and especially for the wisdom you shared! Thank you Darlene for everything! And thank you MVS, Patricia, Reed and the Society and fellow students for the valuable insight! We are blessed to be living at a time of Revelation while the Messenger is with us in the world! Nasi Novare Coram
Ilhun_Korea:  @Maureen : Thank you.
mellany UK:  “My prayer to Heaven “give me strength, wisdom and courage.” Thank you, MVS.
Virgie_near Seattle:  Thank you, everyone, for sharing and reading today. And a blessed Easter to those celebrating.
Jorge_Spain:  At this session, I have re-read the entire GW’s book, and found myself feeling differently when comparing to past reads. I realized, with some amazement, that something subtle but remarkable is changing in myself, my views, my innermost feelings in the face of dire prospects. This gives witness of the cumulative effects of NM studenthood.
Insuk_Korea:  @ Thank you Maureen
Joyanne_Canada:  thank you all . Nasi Novare Coram,
Shrimayi Netherlands:  Yes Marshall I feel this.
Dominic_UK:  I have been struck by that too, Reed. Very significant.
Inhee_Korea:  Thank you Lin.
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Nice Jorge, very nice.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Reed (9:26) I’ve been watching the avg global temps as well, and agree, what could be bigger than that?!
MVS Society:  Yes Jorge, underlying the real challenge of the New Message, is the gently pull of Heaven that increases once you give it your ongoing attention.
JeffreyAdler_ATL:  I resonate with your comment here, Jorge. Thank you.
Danny_AUS:  @Tyyne thank you yes I do hope so
Rudy_Boulder:  Indeed, Jorge. It helps to stabilize internally and externally. The NM studenthood is very important in this regard.
Mike_LF_CAL:  @Reed thanks for the wiki link!
justin-calif-!:  Thanx to all for sharing your wisdom and insights- have to leave now- say safe, all- NNC-
MVS Society:  He who does not heed the signs, lives the consequences.
Danny_AUS:  Reposting Marshall’s advice on working with practical decisions while still receiving guidance from beyond… “In most practical decisions in life, understanding should precede action. Before buying something expensive like a house, I want to have as much information about it as possible. I do not just say to myself, I feel good about this house, I will buy it. The same with starting a relationship. I want to know as much as I can about the other person, their history and tendencies and intentions so that I know what I might be getting into. Knowledge comes out in this process of evaluation and is the final determining force. It is in things more mysterious, like great turns in my life that I must follow the Invisible Light without understanding.” I find this highly relevant, as the strength I need is not for me to become more ‘spiritual’ or ‘enlightened’ but it is to serve the world.
Debbie-MI:  @Jorge-Spain-I have had a very similar experience when I re-read the entire GW’s book recently and I agree that it does give witness to the cumulative effects of NM studenthood.
mellany UK:  Yes .. thank you for the link, Reed. “global mean temperature”. !!!
Shawn_Moose Jaw:  Pot hole seen…pothole not felt.Pot hole Not seen…pothole felt.
jeanine_Society:  @Jorge – thank you for sharing that – this is an experience I’m sure many students can relate to…
Kelvin_Boulder:  Thanks Alison…
Danny_AUS:  But I imagine when the pull truly comes it’s a whole other story
Virgie_near Seattle:  @Shawn: thank you, lol.
MaryL_Boulder:  Thank you everyone wherever you are…I think of you everytime I read about a country or region. My prayers for Knowledge to grow stronger in every one of us. Nasi Novare Coram
JeffreyAdler_ATL:  yeah, Shawn, great one.
Arthur:  The reason I decided to join the chat today is because I read the last chat-transcript and you were talking about adaptation, specifically adapting to the presence of GC forces. The attempts to push and force me to accept their influence has greatly increased. I think I already know the solution for this but keeping this for myself is a huge burden.
Lin_Boulder:  @Jorge, resonate. Being Allies background, till recently I am still staying at the surface meaning of GWC, then during a practice of observing the world a few days ago, there was a sudden and deeper realization of such long term impact of GWC, individually and collectively, far beyond this life. Then when I reread chapter 1, I started to feel a deeper understanding of the words.
Jason PA:  @ rayhobbs….where would we be wout all of your great quotes? Timely & relevant! Much appreciated
Jansett Boulder:  Perhaps we are all preparing to keep Knowledge alive in the world while we live the consequences with those who do not heed the signs. This is the world we’ve come to serve.
Kelvin_Boulder:  15 years ago, internet security was not in the public mental awareness as much as today, in the same line of thought, I see the great waves that we are preparing for today becoming more relevant to the “General” public years ahead, by that time, there will be as there is now with internet issues, a much muddier environment and histeria.
Danny_AUS:  I thank the Teachers for only providing me with so much as I can handle as of now, but I’m sure the load will increase as time goes on… I have found at times that I have feared the pain brought by the greater awareness of Knowledge, but even feared the pull of true relationship, as though even experiencing something too good would require me to abandon other ambitions that, although more damaging in the long run, provided me with some kind of sense of comfort and identity
Arthur:  And I must say I do feel guilty using this chat as my crutch.
JeffreyAdler_ATL:  Arthur, Patricia has advised us to let the pressure build, to become structural, to forge something.
Jim B. Upstate NY:  Yes rayhobbs timely quotes that are so valuable to us all! I 2nd what Jason said!
Mike_LF_CAL:  Thank you all, and Marshall I am feeling it every day…with each practice! Mavran Mavran Conay Mavran, Nasi Novare Coram.
David_KC:  Must start work. Thank you all for being here today. Nasi Novare Coram
Lucille_Maine:  @Danny AUS: Thank you for that Marshall’s advice on working with practical decisions while still receiving guidance from beyond.. It’s something I really need to remember. – having a costly lifelong habit of making decisions based on emotions/feelings. It’s a hard habit to break!
Tonia_Denmark:  Thank you for the reminder, Danny.
Arthur:  @Jeffrey You mean something like establishing my own presence to offset other forces ?
JeffreyAdler_ATL:  I don’t know, Arthur.
Ilhun_Korea:  @Reed, Thank you for the link. Despite these scientific grounds, some consider them conspiracy theories.
mellany UK:  Are you taking Steps To Knowledge, Arthur?
Arthur:  If we are going to be precise then no. But I do learn it all from the same source.
Ilhun_Korea:  Thank you All. Nasi Novare Coram.
MarkBerger:  Arthur – there is a difference between learning and practicing. The practice of Steps to Knowledge will take you to a place within yourself far beyond what learning alone could ever do.
Danny_AUS:  @Arthur I think this is related to being able to hold yourself together, being influenced simply means there are some holes in your ship, the plugs not sealed, those represent the parts of yourself which are still seeking to engage with the manifest experience of life, seeking something beyond Knowledge… I like to use the invocation ‘I surround and protect myself with the power and presence of Knowledge’ when necessary. I have found this gives me a feeling of being safe and uninfluenced within my own mental environment. But as others have said, the practice of Steps to Knowledge is the key to all of this.

3 Responses to "Campfire Chat April 15, 2017"

  1. Alisa Posted on April 16, 2017 at 5:43 am

    MVS Society: I do not recommend looking at GW and political events too much as this can cloud and overtake your mind. Remember, you are building your connection to and awareness of Knowledge and with it, greater things that must be seen and understood.

    This really confirms what I am experiencing in my life today. I realized during this Chat how free and fortunate I am, and not because of my outer circumstances, but because of the inner freedom I have. I am not swayed or affected by the chaos going on in the world, for there are greater things to be seen and understood.

    My Step today is Step 12 in the Continuation Training: I Will Not Try to Be Happy Today.

    This sentence spoke to me in particular since it is precisely what I am experiencing today.

    “This is a deeper kind of happiness, a confirming kind of happiness, a happiness that resonates all through your life. It establishes a rightness with yourself, a sense of integrity and harmony despite whatever difficulties may be facing you in the moment.”

    This is what I was trying to express yesterday in the Chat.

    Alisa_Russia: I am realizing how free and fortunate I am. I feel it is important not to be drawn into the political and economic drama that is going on, but to maintain integrity and impartiality. It is important to live frugally within my means, never spending more than I earn. I am seeing the importance of building a strong foundation in Knowledge, for Knowledge harmonizes everything.

    I will add that I see the importance of being self-sufficient – both inwardly and outwardly. This all fits with natigating the Great Waves of Change.

  2. Alisa Posted on April 16, 2017 at 5:45 am

    * navigating

  3. Janice Stevenson Posted on April 17, 2017 at 1:25 am

    Just finished reading chat from yesterday. My step today is “I do not understand the world.” Paraphrasing from the reading: so I am free to look again. This helps me be ok with the confusion and chaos because I know if I keep looking rather than turn away, Knowledge will eventually get through to me. I see my job as to have the courage to not turn away and the faith that Knowledge is with me, even when I am in a place of uncertainty and not knowing. Thanks everyone who participated and added to my experience of reading this chat.

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